Brian Smith report

was lucky enough to do a corporate stadium tour and then watch the tigers v knight match in a corporate box just recently. the knights tour person mentioned that the knights were fairly unprofessional before the arrival of brian smith as coach and that he instigated many of the much needed changes to both team and management to get the knights on track as a professionally run organization.
so maybe the report will be of benefit, time will tell I suppose.
 
It's not the players, it's not the coach…....it's the board, they seriously still expect a top 8 finish this year given the injuries? they don't have a clue.
 
@Tigerdave said:
It's not the players, it's not the coach…....it's the board, they seriously still expect a top 8 finish this year given the injuries? they don't have a clue.

Our injuries have been bad, but not season killing. I hope the club won't use it as an excuse.
 
@Marshall_magic said:
@Tigerdave said:
It's not the players, it's not the coach…....it's the board, they seriously still expect a top 8 finish this year given the injuries? they don't have a clue.

Our injuries have been bad, but not season killing. I hope the club won't use it as an excuse.

I'd argue that our injury list was the root cause of our slide in performances. We were winning well over most of the top sides until slowly we couldn't put the same team on the paddock.

SOO didn't help but we knew that Farah & Woodsie would be missing for that period.

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Funny how there were no communication problems when the team was beating the likes of Manly, Souths and the Gold Coast. Maybe some people cannot listen to negative critcism.

I feel sorry for Mick. He took on this job on minimal wage and with a real boys club amongst the players. He broke bonds which were inhibiting the teams development and all whilst he works under the constant speculation about when he will be sacked.

Why on Earth would the content of the Smith report be made public?

Stability creates success and we have very little of either! Poor form.
 
Look maybe I could be reading into this too much , but could Potter just be asking for more money and this could be Mayer's way of saying "We don't think your not worth that much " and are trying to get him on the cheap ??
 
He is right though. Potter doesn't communicate well. Hasn't from day one. And it's not that it's wrong. It's that he doesn't do it the way it probably should be done. As much as people bag sheens. If a player did wrong he would explain it and discuss it. Potter doesn't. Doesn't go into depth with players and what needs to be done to improve.

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@happy tiger said:
Look maybe I could be reading into this too much , but could Potter just be asking for more money and this could be Mayer's way of saying "We don't think your not worth that much " and are trying to get him on the cheap ??

Not a bad thought at all Happy . Maybe Potters already been penciled in at the knights ?
He's been dicked around by us for a year and a half . Maybe Potters just playing HIS cards ???

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@T-REXX said:
He is right though. Potter doesn't communicate well. Hasn't from day one. And it's not that it's wrong. It's that he doesn't do it the way it probably should be done. As much as people bag sheens. If a player did wrong he would explain it and discuss it. Potter doesn't. Doesn't go into depth with players and what needs to be done to improve.

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How do you know that? Why do you write that as if it's fact? And, who are you to decide if it's the way it should be done.
 
So let's bring the best communicator in for Potter.

Bennett - hahahahaha

Media interview:
WB: todawedidnt (marblesinmouth) pwaythe waywewanted (marblesinmouth)

Hahahaha

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The club could do a lot worse then appoint a director of football like Brian Smith. LIke or hate the man he knew how to turn football clubs around as a coach.

A review like this of all operations is probably long overdue for this club. We are the least successful club in the NRL over 15 years in terms of finals appearances. Thats 16th, last, bottom whatever awful way you want to put it. Too many people are way too happy with mediocrity at this club and we are a basket case way to often.

I think it is good Smith has done a review like this. It being all leaked to the media is a bad look for us. However hopefully its findings can help the club move forward from year upon year upon year of under achievement.

As for Potter I hope he stays, i think he deserves a third season to determine his future. However if he has not improved his communication skills then that is a worry, as communication is probably the most important aspect a coach can have with all different types of players.
 
who knows what potter's manner is like in the dressing rooms who cares? ,

results are the bottom line and objectively he is going okay.Not great but okay. A couple of wins over the next month would be a great remedy for him and the club.

To me,the club has avoided any controversy this year .
The benji thing exhausted everyone as well as will they or won't they sack sheens the previous year.
Stick with Potter ,give him a start to 2015 with the strongest lineup possible and then judge his future at the club.
The club doesn't need another upheaval.
Yet.
 
@LCA said:
@T-REXX said:
He is right though. Potter doesn't communicate well. Hasn't from day one. And it's not that it's wrong. It's that he doesn't do it the way it probably should be done. As much as people bag sheens. If a player did wrong he would explain it and discuss it. Potter doesn't. Doesn't go into depth with players and what needs to be done to improve.

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How do you know that? Why do you write that as if it's fact? And, who are you to decide if it's the way it should be done.

It's a forum. And it's an opinion and I do happen to know a tad little bit.

Don't like it, don't read it. Simple.
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It's a bit like the report that Brian has released. It's fact yet people don't want to believe it.

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@T-REXX said:
As much as people bag sheens. If a player did wrong he would explain it and discuss it. Potter doesn't.

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Depends who you speak to. Last year Mitch brown told me that he never had any confidence at the tigers. That the whole 'two dressing room' thing was true and sheens only ever cared about his favourites. He'd be wing one week, bench the next, center next week then nsw cup and sheens never once spoke to him about what he wanted from him. Players knew if they were in the 'In' group and these guys did what they wanted, the others ones couldn't get away with anything. The star players spoke to and treated the lesser guys like crap, nothing was ever done about it.

He said at the dogs it feels like one big group, hasler doesn't play favourites and comes down on everyone equally as hard if they stuff up. No one is bigger then anyone else and all the players respect each other.

This is straight from the horses mouth. I have no reason not to believe him
 
You have to scratch your head as to why they would employ an unemployed coach to assess anything to do with coaching. Good chance he just might use the opportunity to his advantage don't you think.
 
Potter is as much a rookie as brooks, teddy, noffa etc. it's not ideal to have a rookie coach coaching a team of rookies but with lack of funds- we can't be too picky.

If a player makes a mistake, others tell him about it and the same should go with the coach. Communication to me is not that big a problem at this stage.

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Smith would be one of the most qualified to conduct a review of this sort, his ability to assess and either implement or recommend change is almost universally acknowledged across rugby league. The Knights/Roosters seemingly hired him for this purpose alone.
 
@happy tiger said:
Look maybe I could be reading into this too much , but could Potter just be asking for more money and this could be Mayer's way of saying "We don't think your not worth that much " and are trying to get him on the cheap ??

Don't think so Happy, they are already getting him on the cheap.

When the English club he was coaching (Think it was Bradford) couldn't pay the bills because they were going broke - he stayed on for months until the end of the season with no pay. He didn't want to let the players down or the club. He has extreme loyalty which is obviously something the players, his staff and maybe the club don't have.

Whoever is whiteanting him, be it Payton, Farah or whoever - the message is wake up to yourself and do your own job properly. Our defence is poor - who is the defence coach? Our attack is poor - who is our attack coach? How come it is not their fault but Potters.
When we were going well people wanted to give accolades to them not Potter. You can't have it both ways.

Potter deserves another two years - the replacement coaches people are talking about are not up to NRL Head coach standard. Payton, Kidwell, Walters etc. - Potter has already shown he is better than all of them.
 
@T-REXX said:
@LCA said:
@T-REXX said:
He is right though. Potter doesn't communicate well. Hasn't from day one. And it's not that it's wrong. It's that he doesn't do it the way it probably should be done. As much as people bag sheens. If a player did wrong he would explain it and discuss it. Potter doesn't. Doesn't go into depth with players and what needs to be done to improve.

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How do you know that? Why do you write that as if it's fact? And, who are you to decide if it's the way it should be done.

It's a forum. And it's an opinion and I do happen to know a tad little bit.
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Don't like it, don't read it. Simple.
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It's a bit like the report that Brian has released. It's fact yet people don't want to believe it.

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Man, how do I know I don't like it if I don't read it? Can you just enlighten me on that one to start with?

But, if I do read it and i think it's BS, I will comment. All you've added here is an opinion presented like it's fact and asked us to believe it because "you know a tad little bit".

I genuinely believe you "know little"….about anything. Simple as that.

I look forward to critiquing your next pearls of wisdom.
 

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