Broncos

[Hangonaminute]

I think the issue here isn't about turning off social media. It's about people thinking it's acceptable to send these types of messages to the players or to post these types of comments on social media.

The players are human beings, they've got friends and family just like we do. They've got every right to use social media and to do so without being told to kill themselves after losing a game of footy.

The conversation shouldn't be focused on the players deleting an app if they don't like what's being said. The focus should be on setting a standard in society where it's not okay to tell anyone to kill themselves.

I agree, but unfortunately we don't live in this utopian fairyland and people write things on social media that others won't like.

So if you want to be on social media you have to either

Deal with the crap on there
Or
Get off social media

But instead, they choose to [This word has been automatically removed] about what's being said about them on social media, ON SOCIAL MEDIA.

There is a solution, don't be on there and you "can't" read it.

 

[Hangonaminute]

Players shouldn’t have to be forced to not use social media because idiots are sending them horrible messages. They’re going bad but they don’t deserve that crap.

You're right, they shouldn't be forced, they should do it willingly for their own good.

If they want to be on social media then they have to deal with things they might not like.

If they don't like what's being said there, then they can chose what to do about it, there's options they can choose to never be able to see any of it again, they can make it all go away.

 

[Elderslie_Tiger]

Just read an article about some players receiving death threats on social media.

Alex Glen said something along the lines of people telling players to go kill themselves (which isn't exactly a death threat, but anyway)

I thought to myself, just don't use social media if you don't like what's being said about you.
Then I read this quote from Glen
"I can switch off from social media but some of these boys can’t."
Really!!!! They CAN'T

What's preventing them from switching off social media I wonder, I'd love to know.
Anyone got any ideas as to what could possibly be preventing these players from not being on social media.

Last time I checked you can just delete apps it's amazing push the "Delete" button, there ya go, it's gone, no more social media.

Its all about their EGO'S thats there main problem its amazing they can get them all in the sheds on game day.

 

[happy_tiger]

I'll never forget 2006 ....when we beat them 20-6

Broncos members tearing up their memberships and throwing them away

Even the old man thought that was funny ....I'm telling them not to tear them up ..give them to the old man .....sitting in a WT's jersey

They won the premiership that year .....

 

[Sart0ri]

Social media is part of your brand, its about marketing yourself so it is financially important to people in the public eye or those that want to be.
Its also an evil place where the mob have great power without any responsibility.

They're on the bloody TV every weekend.
We can all see how good or terrible player and person they are, plenty of time to "market" themselves.
Footy players got on just fine "marketing" their "brand" before social media, so this argument is bollocks.

And when did a human being become a "brand"?

There are now a lot more ways to market yourself, to different people. Footballers own clothing brands and restaurants these days. I'm not saying it's better or right but things have changed. Young people (which I am not) feel connected with people in the public eye by social media, if your not on it, you are losing those people.

And 1937 apparently - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_branding

 

[Spartan117]

Broncos are self entitled.

Im loving seeing them humbled.

 

[Geo]

The big boys should be able to handle themselves it's close family members that I feel for..

Same as forums..we have had a few join over the years ..they never stay long..

It's the way of the World these days..the easy solution is to say turn it off..same for on-line bullying of kids..sounds simple but the reality of it is quite different..

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Whenever someone suggests to simply not use social media in instances like this, it’s as if they are excusing whats being said to them. Maybe it’s acceptable if they get called names for having a bad game, but why should the onus be on them to alter their lives if they receive death threats and get told to kill themselves? There’s a line, and at some point the players are within their rights to stand up for themselves.

 

[JD Tiger]

The big boys should be able to handle themselves it's close family members that I feel for..

Same as forums..we have had a few join over the years ..they never stay long..

It's the way of the World these days..the easy solution is to say turn it off..same for on-line bullying of kids..sounds simple but the reality of it is quite different..

If they can't cope with people behaving poorly then yes turn it off. But living in the age of social media really they need to develop a skin that's not so soft it cuts when it looks at a bread and butter knife.

I understand some people have mental health considerations, but need to be careful there as that has been taken advantage of and used terribly in rugby league as an excuse to get out of undesired situations (contracts, domestic violence and unsocial behaviour leading to court appearances). The players with genuine mental health issues, and there are some I'm sure, need to respectfully be more choosey over what social media they engage in. Setting profiles to private, not allowing public comments if those comments are going to potentially have negative affects on them. Basically turning it off.

Edit: I see now your point about family members, yes I did miss that point sorry. It's the same strategy for dealing with it though. A kid could be bullied in person or online, it's the same thing really, a tough skin has to be developed, and yeah, consequences should be in place for offenders (bullies).

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Just read an article about some players receiving death threats on social media.

Alex Glen said something along the lines of people telling players to go kill themselves (which isn't exactly a death threat, but anyway)

I thought to myself, just don't use social media if you don't like what's being said about you.
Then I read this quote from Glen
"I can switch off from social media but some of these boys can’t."
Really!!!! They CAN'T

What's preventing them from switching off social media I wonder, I'd love to know.
Anyone got any ideas as to what could possibly be preventing these players from not being on social media.

Last time I checked you can just delete apps it's amazing push the "Delete" button, there ya go, it's gone, no more social media.


Being an older guy i agree - i can choose whether to use social media or not - doesn't bother me. However we have a teenage girl living with us and she is addicted to it. I do believe its an age thing and peer pressure that keeps younger ones going back for more.

I understand, but would you say that she CAN'T switch it off?

yes she could but as for leaving it off - no way

100% agree. It's seriously addictive. Smart phones in general have strong links to our impulses. Before we know it, some of us have opened our phones and are clicking on an app.

Totally agree, there's no denying that.
But saying they "can't" leave social media is ridiculous, of course they can.

Perhaps poor choice of wording from the Broncos player. Instead of can't, perhaps he meant shouldn't be expected to. Although I would disagree with him if that was his choice of words, and agree with your OP still.

There was a South Park episode a while ago where celebrities were paying someone to filter out all the undesirable things people posted, and the poor guy doing the filtering got sick from all the nasty things he had to read. Moral of the story was basically 'if you don't like what they're saying, don't read it'.

Bit hard to know you don’t like something if you don’t read it first.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

The big boys should be able to handle themselves it's close family members that I feel for..

Same as forums..we have had a few join over the years ..they never stay long..

It's the way of the World these days..the easy solution is to say turn it off..same for on-line bullying of kids..sounds simple but the reality of it is quite different..

If they can't cope with people behaving poorly then yes turn it off. But living in the age of social media really they need to develop a skin that's not so soft it cuts when it looks at a bread and butter knife.

I understand some people have mental health considerations, but need to be careful there as that has been taken advantage of and used terribly in rugby league as an excuse to get out of undesired situations (contracts, domestic violence and unsocial behaviour leading to court appearances). The players with genuine mental health issues, and there are some I'm sure, need to respectfully be more choosey over what social media they engage in. Setting profiles to private, not allowing public comments if those comments are going to potentially have negative affects on them. Basically turning it off.

If someone was giving you death threats and you reported it to the authorities and their reply was “develop a skin mate” how would you react?

 

[JD Tiger]

The big boys should be able to handle themselves it's close family members that I feel for..

Same as forums..we have had a few join over the years ..they never stay long..

It's the way of the World these days..the easy solution is to say turn it off..same for on-line bullying of kids..sounds simple but the reality of it is quite different..

If they can't cope with people behaving poorly then yes turn it off. But living in the age of social media really they need to develop a skin that's not so soft it cuts when it looks at a bread and butter knife.

I understand some people have mental health considerations, but need to be careful there as that has been taken advantage of and used terribly in rugby league as an excuse to get out of undesired situations (contracts, domestic violence and unsocial behaviour leading to court appearances). The players with genuine mental health issues, and there are some I'm sure, need to respectfully be more choosey over what social media they engage in. Setting profiles to private, not allowing public comments if those comments are going to potentially have negative affects on them. Basically turning it off.

If someone was giving you death threats and you reported it to the authorities and their reply was “develop a skin mate” how would you react?

They didn't receive death threats. So this is a non-relevant hypothetical question. I'd report it to authorities and expect something to happen. If that was their response I would feel it was not good enough. But that didn't happen.

The comments were more along the lines of you should go hurt yourself. I'd have thought that would be against the T and C of the media platform they were on, and if it became a continued campaign against me which I couldn't deal with, then I'd go through that company seeing what they could do to stop the offenders.

They need to expect that living in the public social spotlight, they are going to experience a social reaction and some of that will be negative. Like abuse yelled by fans at the ground, like harsh and often unfair criticism from news reporters, like being followed around paparazzi style every time they go buy milk from the supermarket. It's part of the deal of being a footy player.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

The big boys should be able to handle themselves it's close family members that I feel for..

Same as forums..we have had a few join over the years ..they never stay long..

It's the way of the World these days..the easy solution is to say turn it off..same for on-line bullying of kids..sounds simple but the reality of it is quite different..

If they can't cope with people behaving poorly then yes turn it off. But living in the age of social media really they need to develop a skin that's not so soft it cuts when it looks at a bread and butter knife.

I understand some people have mental health considerations, but need to be careful there as that has been taken advantage of and used terribly in rugby league as an excuse to get out of undesired situations (contracts, domestic violence and unsocial behaviour leading to court appearances). The players with genuine mental health issues, and there are some I'm sure, need to respectfully be more choosey over what social media they engage in. Setting profiles to private, not allowing public comments if those comments are going to potentially have negative affects on them. Basically turning it off.

If someone was giving you death threats and you reported it to the authorities and their reply was “develop a skin mate” how would you react?

They didn't receive death threats. So this is a non-relevant hypothetical question. I'd report it to authorities and expect something to happen. If that was their response I would feel it was not good enough. But that didn't happen.

The comments were more along the lines of you should go hurt yourself. I'd have thought that would be against the T and C of the media platform they were on, and if it became a continued campaign against me which I couldn't deal with, then I'd go through that company seeing what they could do to stop the offenders.

They need to expect that living in the public social spotlight, they are going to experience a social reaction and some of that will be negative. Like abuse yelled by fans at the ground, like harsh and often unfair criticism from news reporters, like being followed around paparazzi style every time they go buy milk from the supermarket. It's part of the deal of being a footy player.

There’s nothing wrong with players expecting negative reactions. I’m sure 99% of what they hear or read, doesn’t bother them. It’s the 1% they justifiably don’t accept. Glenn is being very specific in what he believes is unacceptable. It’s not a general complaint about criticism.

 

[JD Tiger]

The big boys should be able to handle themselves it's close family members that I feel for..

Same as forums..we have had a few join over the years ..they never stay long..

It's the way of the World these days..the easy solution is to say turn it off..same for on-line bullying of kids..sounds simple but the reality of it is quite different..

If they can't cope with people behaving poorly then yes turn it off. But living in the age of social media really they need to develop a skin that's not so soft it cuts when it looks at a bread and butter knife.

I understand some people have mental health considerations, but need to be careful there as that has been taken advantage of and used terribly in rugby league as an excuse to get out of undesired situations (contracts, domestic violence and unsocial behaviour leading to court appearances). The players with genuine mental health issues, and there are some I'm sure, need to respectfully be more choosey over what social media they engage in. Setting profiles to private, not allowing public comments if those comments are going to potentially have negative affects on them. Basically turning it off.

If someone was giving you death threats and you reported it to the authorities and their reply was “develop a skin mate” how would you react?

They didn't receive death threats. So this is a non-relevant hypothetical question. I'd report it to authorities and expect something to happen. If that was their response I would feel it was not good enough. But that didn't happen.

The comments were more along the lines of you should go hurt yourself. I'd have thought that would be against the T and C of the media platform they were on, and if it became a continued campaign against me which I couldn't deal with, then I'd go through that company seeing what they could do to stop the offenders.

They need to expect that living in the public social spotlight, they are going to experience a social reaction and some of that will be negative. Like abuse yelled by fans at the ground, like harsh and often unfair criticism from news reporters, like being followed around paparazzi style every time they go buy milk from the supermarket. It's part of the deal of being a footy player.

There’s nothing wrong with players expecting negative reactions. I’m sure 99% of what they hear or read, doesn’t bother them. It’s the 1% they justifiably don’t accept. Glenn is being very specific in what he believes is unacceptable. It’s not a general complaint about criticism.

I was thinking about it last night. Popular opinion may be able to deter trollers when they appear.

As in, if some idiot writes a post which is despicable, if there was then a flurry of supportive posts that came in after that post, in effect calling them down and discrediting the original troll post, would that help matters? Possibly, that's how a mate could help a mate. Or just a regular person could help a person.

 

[Deleted member 3518]

Just read an article about some players receiving death threats on social media.

Alex Glen said something along the lines of people telling players to go kill themselves (which isn't exactly a death threat, but anyway)

I thought to myself, just don't use social media if you don't like what's being said about you.
Then I read this quote from Glen
"I can switch off from social media but some of these boys can’t."
Really!!!! They CAN'T

What's preventing them from switching off social media I wonder, I'd love to know.
Anyone got any ideas as to what could possibly be preventing these players from not being on social media.

Last time I checked you can just delete apps it's amazing push the "Delete" button, there ya go, it's gone, no more social media.


Being an older guy i agree - i can choose whether to use social media or not - doesn't bother me. However we have a teenage girl living with us and she is addicted to it. I do believe its an age thing and peer pressure that keeps younger ones going back for more.

I understand, but would you say that she CAN'T switch it off?

I think he’s saying can’t , as in like a junkie can’t quit the gear. It’s not that they actually theoretically can’t , but that there’s so many underlying factors that prevent them doing it . And it’s cultural more than anything. I think my generation, people born 1980s are the last generation to be born without internet.
This is how they all connect now , and feel connected.
There’s a reason why there’s a spike in youth suicide since social media .

 

[Hangonaminute]

Just read an article about some players receiving death threats on social media.

Alex Glen said something along the lines of people telling players to go kill themselves (which isn't exactly a death threat, but anyway)

I thought to myself, just don't use social media if you don't like what's being said about you.
Then I read this quote from Glen
"I can switch off from social media but some of these boys can’t."
Really!!!! They CAN'T

What's preventing them from switching off social media I wonder, I'd love to know.
Anyone got any ideas as to what could possibly be preventing these players from not being on social media.

Last time I checked you can just delete apps it's amazing push the "Delete" button, there ya go, it's gone, no more social media.


Being an older guy i agree - i can choose whether to use social media or not - doesn't bother me. However we have a teenage girl living with us and she is addicted to it. I do believe its an age thing and peer pressure that keeps younger ones going back for more.

I understand, but would you say that she CAN'T switch it off?

I think he’s saying can’t , as in like a junkie can’t quit the gear. It’s not that they actually theoretically can’t , but that there’s so many underlying factors that prevent them doing it . And it’s cultural more than anything. I think my generation, people born 1980s are the last generation to be born without internet.
This is how they all connect now , and feel connected.
There’s a reason why there’s a spike in youth suicide since social media .

Are you saying no junkie has ever got clean?

Can you see how it's still a stupid thing to say and try to argue for?

I totally understand how addictive social media is, but it's outrageous to say young players can't get off it.
Nobody needs social media, I'm a living example of that, I understand the generational thing too but people still have a choice whether to use social media or not no matter what year they were born.
These are all just lame excuses imo.

Funny how when they go into origin camp, Freddy gets them off it.
A bit more $$$ for playing origin seems to cure their social media addiction pretty easily

 

[Deleted member 3518]

Just read an article about some players receiving death threats on social media.

Alex Glen said something along the lines of people telling players to go kill themselves (which isn't exactly a death threat, but anyway)

I thought to myself, just don't use social media if you don't like what's being said about you.
Then I read this quote from Glen
"I can switch off from social media but some of these boys can’t."
Really!!!! They CAN'T

What's preventing them from switching off social media I wonder, I'd love to know.
Anyone got any ideas as to what could possibly be preventing these players from not being on social media.

Last time I checked you can just delete apps it's amazing push the "Delete" button, there ya go, it's gone, no more social media.


Being an older guy i agree - i can choose whether to use social media or not - doesn't bother me. However we have a teenage girl living with us and she is addicted to it. I do believe its an age thing and peer pressure that keeps younger ones going back for more.

I understand, but would you say that she CAN'T switch it off?

I think he’s saying can’t , as in like a junkie can’t quit the gear. It’s not that they actually theoretically can’t , but that there’s so many underlying factors that prevent them doing it . And it’s cultural more than anything. I think my generation, people born 1980s are the last generation to be born without internet.
This is how they all connect now , and feel connected.
There’s a reason why there’s a spike in youth suicide since social media .

Are you saying no junkie has ever got clean?

Can you see how it's still a stupid thing to say and try to argue for?

I totally understand how addictive social media is, but it's outrageous to say young players can't get off it.
Nobody needs social media, I'm a living example of that, I understand the generational thing too but people still have a choice whether to use social media or not no matter what year they were born.
These are all just lame excuses imo.

Funny how when they go into origin camp, Freddy gets them off it.
A bit more $$$ for playing origin seems to cure their social media addiction pretty easily

No , I’m not saying that. I’m saying people use the term “Can’t” incorrectly . They should probably choose to say “find it difficult”. But just because you yourself choose or don’t choose something , has very little to do with the addictive nature of someone else.
Seems pretty closed minded to shutdown someone else’s struggles because you don’t struggle with it

 

[Hangonaminute]

Just read an article about some players receiving death threats on social media.

Alex Glen said something along the lines of people telling players to go kill themselves (which isn't exactly a death threat, but anyway)

I thought to myself, just don't use social media if you don't like what's being said about you.
Then I read this quote from Glen
"I can switch off from social media but some of these boys can’t."
Really!!!! They CAN'T

What's preventing them from switching off social media I wonder, I'd love to know.
Anyone got any ideas as to what could possibly be preventing these players from not being on social media.

Last time I checked you can just delete apps it's amazing push the "Delete" button, there ya go, it's gone, no more social media.


Being an older guy i agree - i can choose whether to use social media or not - doesn't bother me. However we have a teenage girl living with us and she is addicted to it. I do believe its an age thing and peer pressure that keeps younger ones going back for more.

I understand, but would you say that she CAN'T switch it off?

I think he’s saying can’t , as in like a junkie can’t quit the gear. It’s not that they actually theoretically can’t , but that there’s so many underlying factors that prevent them doing it . And it’s cultural more than anything. I think my generation, people born 1980s are the last generation to be born without internet.
This is how they all connect now , and feel connected.
There’s a reason why there’s a spike in youth suicide since social media .

Are you saying no junkie has ever got clean?

Can you see how it's still a stupid thing to say and try to argue for?

I totally understand how addictive social media is, but it's outrageous to say young players can't get off it.
Nobody needs social media, I'm a living example of that, I understand the generational thing too but people still have a choice whether to use social media or not no matter what year they were born.
These are all just lame excuses imo.

Funny how when they go into origin camp, Freddy gets them off it.
A bit more $$$ for playing origin seems to cure their social media addiction pretty easily

No , I’m not saying that. I’m saying people use the term “Can’t” incorrectly . They should probably choose to say “find it difficult”. But just because you yourself choose or don’t choose something , has very little to do with the addictive nature of someone else.
Seems pretty closed minded to shutdown someone else’s struggles because you don’t struggle with it

Seems you got me totally wrong, I'm not shutting down anything.
Nevermind

 

[Geo]

OK..unsubstantiated rumours of the nature posted around the Broncos players/coaching staff are not permitted and have been deleted..

Thank you..

 

[Harvey]

Rumour has it the Broncos are terrible this year