Brooks.... what is he good for??

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@Strongee said in [Brooks\.\.\.\. what is he good for??](/post/1177633) said:
Is this still going ? When we win on Friday , all you haters will be silent or doubling down on your outrageous take. I tell you one thing , if Doueihi doesn’t hog the ball when he made the break , brooks runs away to score , because he’s actually good and you guys are morons .


He would score because we are morons?

Has that been the problem all this time?
 
An organising half is only required to cover for deficiencies in the rest of the spine or to save cap money.
It's not 1980.
 
@Strongee said in [Brooks\.\.\.\. what is he good for??](/post/1177633) said:
Is this still going ? When we win on Friday , all you haters will be silent or doubling down on your outrageous take. I tell you one thing , if Doueihi doesn’t hog the ball when he made the break , brooks runs away to score , because he’s actually good and you guys are morons .

Come on Strongee,you don't have to name call us because we differ from your opinion...I have been a critic of Brooks many times,GEO can vouch for that..
but in having said that,this year I have enjoyed watching Brooks run the ball more than he has when Benji was his partner,I don't know if JR is the difference or Maguire has made the difference..lets see how he goes in the next few games before we start getting defensive when someone has a differing opinion...
 
@Chainlink said in [Brooks\.\.\.\. what is he good for??](/post/1176950) said:
The only Problem we have with Brooks is they have slapping the wrong number on his back since he was 16. He is a very good running half with a decent kicking game.

We need a confident organising half next to him. A leader who knows how to manage a game.

Pitty the club tried to mould both Brooks and Moses into something they weren’t. I often wonder had Moses been given the reigns as the confident organising half and Brooks been given the role of second fiddle running 5/8, whether our club would have followed a different trajectory.

The only reason Moses is winning football games is because they signed Fergo and put Sivo on the wing . Add to that the sudden re-emergence of Jennings and yeah . When they didn’t have any go forward after their winger left they came last . This is not a coincidence. Their pack has slowly been developing , as well.
Also .... we are starting to win football games !
And we had 3 of our starting pack not playing , 2 guys were injured , and Joey had a brain explosion .
We are getting there . And Brooks is a huge component of that . Defensively elite , elite running game , above average short game , and an average kicking game.
The only real constructive criticism I’ve seen on here is that he needs to play more ad-lib footy , and less structure .
Otherwise it’s just outdated thoughts about what a half is , or just blaming every thing on him.


@Tiger5150 said in [Brooks\.\.\.\. what is he good for??](/post/1177638) said:
@Strongee said in [Brooks\.\.\.\. what is he good for??](/post/1177633) said:
Is this still going ? When we win on Friday , all you haters will be silent or doubling down on your outrageous take. I tell you one thing , if Doueihi doesn’t hog the ball when he made the break , brooks runs away to score , because he’s actually good and you guys are morons .


He would score because we are morons?

Has that been the problem all this time?

No youre morons for having a 15 page debate , about the validity of an above average half in the NRL . Talking about signing players like Sezer , dropping him for a Player who’s 35 and is best served coming off the bench , who also can’t tackle anymore.
Like I’ve said before , anyone who says we should drop Brooks has zero idea about footy .... period .
And there’s infinite stats to back me up as well as the eyeball.
 
@TrueTiger said in [Brooks\.\.\.\. what is he good for??](/post/1177643) said:
@Strongee said in [Brooks\.\.\.\. what is he good for??](/post/1177633) said:
Is this still going ? When we win on Friday , all you haters will be silent or doubling down on your outrageous take. I tell you one thing , if Doueihi doesn’t hog the ball when he made the break , brooks runs away to score , because he’s actually good and you guys are morons .

Come on Strongee,you don't have to name call us because we differ from your opinion...I have been a critic of Brooks many times,GEO can vouch for that..
but in having said that,this year I have enjoyed watching Brooks run the ball more than he has when Benji was his partner,I don't know if JR is the difference or Maguire has made the difference..lets see how he goes in the next few games before we start getting defensive when someone has a differing opinion...

Yea you’re right ! I’m just sick of reading it . I apologise for calling people morons! That’s uncalled for . He is not Andrew Johns . The sooner people realise this , the better he , them , us , will all be . The unrealistic expectations on a guy who isn’t even in our top 5 paid players is funny .
 
@Strongee said in [Brooks\.\.\.\. what is he good for??](/post/1177645) said:
@TrueTiger said in [Brooks\.\.\.\. what is he good for??](/post/1177643) said:
@Strongee said in [Brooks\.\.\.\. what is he good for??](/post/1177633) said:
Is this still going ? When we win on Friday , all you haters will be silent or doubling down on your outrageous take. I tell you one thing , if Doueihi doesn’t hog the ball when he made the break , brooks runs away to score , because he’s actually good and you guys are morons .

Come on Strongee,you don't have to name call us because we differ from your opinion...I have been a critic of Brooks many times,GEO can vouch for that..
but in having said that,this year I have enjoyed watching Brooks run the ball more than he has when Benji was his partner,I don't know if JR is the difference or Maguire has made the difference..lets see how he goes in the next few games before we start getting defensive when someone has a differing opinion...

Yea you’re right ! I’m just sick of reading it . I apologise for calling people morons! That’s uncalled for . He is not Andrew Johns . The sooner people realise this , the better he , them , us , will all be . The unrealistic expectations on a guy who isn’t even in our top 5 paid players is funny .

Good on you for apologising mate,I think the trouble with Luke is,he has had several coaches,had Benji beside him and controlling games and Luke playing structured football as per Madge..
A bit more time and I think we will see a bit more consistency from Luke especially if he has a reliable halves partner and not chopping and changing his partner..
 
@TrueTiger said in [Brooks\.\.\.\. what is he good for??](/post/1177643) said:
Come on Strongee,you don't have to name call us because we differ from your opinion...

Yeah......Keyboard coaches.....smh
 
@Geo said in [Brooks\.\.\.\. what is he good for??](/post/1176237) said:
Can we put the wearing 6 to bed too please..the number on their backs doesn't mean much in the modern game when it comes to halves..

Luke Keary for eg is the dominate half for the Rorters he wears 6..Munster the same for the Storm 6 also..bottom dwellers Dogs 6 Foran ...Titans moved Ash Taylor to 6..masterstroke..

If we are talking about this game 6 Luai created the majority of the Pamfers points

So by all means let Brooks wear 6..

Let him wear 6 and all the problems will be solved according to some.....
 
@larry2005 said in [Brooks\.\.\.\. what is he good for??](/post/1177652) said:
@Geo said in [Brooks\.\.\.\. what is he good for??](/post/1176237) said:
Can we put the wearing 6 to bed too please..the number on their backs doesn't mean much in the modern game when it comes to halves..

Luke Keary for eg is the dominate half for the Rorters he wears 6..Munster the same for the Storm 6 also..bottom dwellers Dogs 6 Foran ...Titans moved Ash Taylor to 6..masterstroke..

If we are talking about this game 6 Luai created the majority of the Pamfers points

So by all means let Brooks wear 6..

Let him wear 6 and all the problems will be solved according to some.....

Only half solved, we still need an organising half.
 
@Tiger5150 said in [Brooks\.\.\.\. what is he good for??](/post/1177651) said:
@TrueTiger said in [Brooks\.\.\.\. what is he good for??](/post/1177643) said:
Come on Strongee,you don't have to name call us because we differ from your opinion...

Yeah......Keyboard coaches.....smh

Who’s a keyboard coach ? You’re getting in an echo chamber about how crap he is . And it has about as much grasp with reality as flat earth.
He’s not crap . He’s good . He’s not elite. Has a lot of improving to do . And he’s paid as an above average player . He’s not paid a 1 mil . He’s paid 600-700 , which is value for what he provides .
That’s the end of discussion . There is not 1 half that is remotely close to available that anyone in their right mind would swap him for .
It’s not an opinion if it’s outrageous. And there’s infinite stats that back me up , as well as the obvious stat of how rubbish we looked with benji and josh in rounds 1 and 2 .
 
@mike said in [Brooks\.\.\.\. what is he good for??](/post/1177654) said:
@larry2005 said in [Brooks\.\.\.\. what is he good for??](/post/1177652) said:
@Geo said in [Brooks\.\.\.\. what is he good for??](/post/1176237) said:
Can we put the wearing 6 to bed too please..the number on their backs doesn't mean much in the modern game when it comes to halves..

Luke Keary for eg is the dominate half for the Rorters he wears 6..Munster the same for the Storm 6 also..bottom dwellers Dogs 6 Foran ...Titans moved Ash Taylor to 6..masterstroke..

If we are talking about this game 6 Luai created the majority of the Pamfers points

So by all means let Brooks wear 6..

Let him wear 6 and all the problems will be solved according to some.....

Only half solved, we still need an organising half.


My view is that you need several playmaking options (the best teams have 4), that's where the game is headed.
 
@Strongee said in [Brooks\.\.\.\. what is he good for??](/post/1177656) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [Brooks\.\.\.\. what is he good for??](/post/1177651) said:
@TrueTiger said in [Brooks\.\.\.\. what is he good for??](/post/1177643) said:
Come on Strongee,you don't have to name call us because we differ from your opinion...

Yeah......Keyboard coaches.....smh

Who’s a keyboard coach ? You’re getting in an echo chamber about how crap he is . And it has about as much grasp with reality as flat earth.
He’s not crap . He’s good . He’s not elite. Has a lot of improving to do . And he’s paid as an above average player . He’s not paid a 1 mil . He’s paid 600-700 , which is value for what he provides .
That’s the end of discussion . There is not 1 half that is remotely close to available that anyone in their right mind would swap him for .
It’s not an opinion if it’s outrageous. And there’s infinite stats that back me up , as well as the obvious stat of how rubbish we looked with benji and josh in rounds 1 and 2 .


Strongee, I owe you an explanation and an apology. I agree with you 1000%. I was actually having a go at True Tigers hypocrisy, where he had a go at you for "name calling" whereas in another thread he calls anyone who isnt a fan of Josh Reynolds "armchair coaches". The irony escapes him and doesnt translate well over two different threads.

Onward mate, keep fighting the fight.
 
@Tiger5150 said in [Brooks\.\.\.\. what is he good for??](/post/1177670) said:
@Strongee said in [Brooks\.\.\.\. what is he good for??](/post/1177656) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [Brooks\.\.\.\. what is he good for??](/post/1177651) said:
@TrueTiger said in [Brooks\.\.\.\. what is he good for??](/post/1177643) said:
Come on Strongee,you don't have to name call us because we differ from your opinion...

Yeah......Keyboard coaches.....smh

Who’s a keyboard coach ? You’re getting in an echo chamber about how crap he is . And it has about as much grasp with reality as flat earth.
He’s not crap . He’s good . He’s not elite. Has a lot of improving to do . And he’s paid as an above average player . He’s not paid a 1 mil . He’s paid 600-700 , which is value for what he provides .
That’s the end of discussion . There is not 1 half that is remotely close to available that anyone in their right mind would swap him for .
It’s not an opinion if it’s outrageous. And there’s infinite stats that back me up , as well as the obvious stat of how rubbish we looked with benji and josh in rounds 1 and 2 .


Strongee, I owe you an explanation and an apology. I agree with you 1000%. I was actually having a go at True Tigers hypocrisy, where he had a go at you for "name calling" whereas in another thread he calls anyone who isnt a fan of Josh Reynolds "armchair coaches". The irony escapes him and doesnt translate well over two different threads.

Onward mate, keep fighting the fight.

Nah I was a douche for calling people morons . But thanks for the apology . All good. I still think anyone calling Brooks crap is the rugby league equivalent of a flat earther though.
 
@Tiger5150 said in [Brooks\.\.\.\. what is he good for??](/post/1177670) said:
@Strongee said in [Brooks\.\.\.\. what is he good for??](/post/1177656) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [Brooks\.\.\.\. what is he good for??](/post/1177651) said:
@TrueTiger said in [Brooks\.\.\.\. what is he good for??](/post/1177643) said:
Come on Strongee,you don't have to name call us because we differ from your opinion...

Yeah......Keyboard coaches.....smh

Who’s a keyboard coach ? You’re getting in an echo chamber about how crap he is . And it has about as much grasp with reality as flat earth.
He’s not crap . He’s good . He’s not elite. Has a lot of improving to do . And he’s paid as an above average player . He’s not paid a 1 mil . He’s paid 600-700 , which is value for what he provides .
That’s the end of discussion . There is not 1 half that is remotely close to available that anyone in their right mind would swap him for .
It’s not an opinion if it’s outrageous. And there’s infinite stats that back me up , as well as the obvious stat of how rubbish we looked with benji and josh in rounds 1 and 2 .


Strongee, I owe you an explanation and an apology. I agree with you 1000%. I was actually having a go at True Tigers hypocrisy, where he had a go at you for "name calling" whereas in another thread he calls anyone who isnt a fan of Josh Reynolds "armchair coaches". The irony escapes him and doesnt translate well over two different threads.

Onward mate, keep fighting the fight.

Tiger5150,you are right I called some people keyboard coaches,however I didn't call them morons ...big difference ..I used a term that many have used before,I didn't degrade them as such and its good that Strongee has apologised it means he is man enough to understand he said the wrong thing...I will also apologise if I offended anyone using my terminology...
 
@TrueTiger said in [Brooks\.\.\.\. what is he good for??](/post/1177841) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [Brooks\.\.\.\. what is he good for??](/post/1177670) said:
@Strongee said in [Brooks\.\.\.\. what is he good for??](/post/1177656) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [Brooks\.\.\.\. what is he good for??](/post/1177651) said:
@TrueTiger said in [Brooks\.\.\.\. what is he good for??](/post/1177643) said:
Come on Strongee,you don't have to name call us because we differ from your opinion...

Yeah......Keyboard coaches.....smh

Who’s a keyboard coach ? You’re getting in an echo chamber about how crap he is . And it has about as much grasp with reality as flat earth.
He’s not crap . He’s good . He’s not elite. Has a lot of improving to do . And he’s paid as an above average player . He’s not paid a 1 mil . He’s paid 600-700 , which is value for what he provides .
That’s the end of discussion . There is not 1 half that is remotely close to available that anyone in their right mind would swap him for .
It’s not an opinion if it’s outrageous. And there’s infinite stats that back me up , as well as the obvious stat of how rubbish we looked with benji and josh in rounds 1 and 2 .


Strongee, I owe you an explanation and an apology. I agree with you 1000%. I was actually having a go at True Tigers hypocrisy, where he had a go at you for "name calling" whereas in another thread he calls anyone who isnt a fan of Josh Reynolds "armchair coaches". The irony escapes him and doesnt translate well over two different threads.

Onward mate, keep fighting the fight.

Tiger5150,you are right I called some people keyboard coaches,however I didn't call them morons ..***.big difference*** ..I used a term that many have used before,***I didn't degrade them*** as such and its good that Strongee has apologised it means he is man enough to understand he said the wrong thing...I will also apologise if I offended anyone using my terminology...

If there is a big difference and you think you didnt degrade anyone, why are you apologising?
 
Some people are hard to please! If Brookes was on the open market he would be snapped up in a second.Playing with an ordinary roster is tough for a half.Its not surprising all halves in leading teams look good and the rest get bagged,its been this way forever.
 
@sleeve said in [Brooks\.\.\.\. what is he good for??](/post/1177931) said:
Some people are hard to please! If Brookes was on the open market he would be snapped up in a second.Playing with an ordinary roster is tough for a half.Its not surprising all halves in leading teams look good and the rest get bagged,its been this way forever.

Flanagan is a classic example, does anyone honestly think he’d look this good at the tigers? in saying that he’s not even a standout, just doing a job
 
Brooks would excel at roosters or storm or canberra behind a big pack.
Still think he is more of a running 6 than a playmaking organising 7 in traditional sense, kind of like a faster version of Kevie Walters perhaps or faster version of Keary. Let him float into the game and pick his moments to run however we need an organsing 7 maybe Burton or Madden or a Blake Green etc
 
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