Brooks.... what is he good for??

[Tiger5150]

No one was particularly good last night. Blame him all you want but two careless plays from MCK and Nofaloama cost two tries and the game. Tries lead directly from those errors and that is indisputable.

Reynolds brings nothing and is preventing the development of Madden who to me looms as our future 7 and halves partner of Brooks.

I cant believe that there is a whole thread to bag Brooks (who was poor) and Reynolds gets a free pass. Was Reynolds on the field at the end when Grant came back on or did Madge drag him? I am embarassed by Reynolds in our team. Late in the game when we are getting pumped, clear we are going to lose and he is swearing and carrying on like a pork chop at Mitchell. You would swear we were ahead by 30 and he had scored 4 tries the way he was carrying on. He was rubbish and you have no license to be such a tool when you are barely good enough to be on the park and in fact get dragged.

 

[Tigersmurf]

Im a Brooks fan, but tonight he was poor. But he wasnt on his own, REynolds, Mbye, Hoffman, MCK, Clarke, all poor

Wow I think you are being harsh on Hoffman. They sent a lot of traffic and kicks his way. He defused all bombs and scored a good try. If his centre had of helped him a little in defence then they may have been able to withstand some of the attack down that side.

 

[Snake]

Benji and Reynolds against Newcastle diabolical. Brooks in attack may not be firing to everyone's like but take him away defensively and watch the fall out. This blaming him individually for losses is nuts. Yes he has flaws but with the squad we have dropping him further weakens our team it doesn't strengthen it.

How many tackles did Brooks miss last night ? If

 

[Snake]

Im a Brooks fan, but tonight he was poor. But he wasnt on his own, REynolds, Mbye, Hoffman, MCK, Clarke, all poor

Wow I think you are being harsh on Hoffman. They sent a lot of traffic and kicks his way. He defused all bombs and scored a good try. If his centre had of helped him a little in defence then they may have been able to withstand some of the attack down that side.

Exactly .. his inept partner inside of him was a disgrace !

 

[Snake]

No one was particularly good last night. Blame him all you want but two careless plays from MCK and Nofaloama cost two tries and the game. Tries lead directly from those errors and that is indisputable.

Reynolds brings nothing and is preventing the development of Madden who to me looms as our future 7 and halves partner of Brooks.


I cant believe that there is a whole thread to bag Brooks (who was poor) and Reynolds gets a free pass. Was Reynolds on the field at the end when Grant came back on or did Madge drag him? I am embarassed by Reynolds in our team. Late in the game when we are getting pumped, clear we are going to lose and he is swearing and carrying on like a pork chop at Mitchell. You would swear we were ahead by 30 and he had scored 4 tries the way he was carrying on. He was rubbish and you have no license to be such a tool when you are barely good enough to be on the park and in fact get dragged.

Forget Reynolds he will be gone as soon as possible .. Benji is gone at years end ..No be concerned about the guy that is here for years to come !

 

[Tiger5150]

Im a Brooks fan, but tonight he was poor. But he wasnt on his own, REynolds, Mbye, Hoffman, MCK, Clarke, all poor

Wow I think you are being harsh on Hoffman. They sent a lot of traffic and kicks his way. He defused all bombs and scored a good try. If his centre had of helped him a little in defence then they may have been able to withstand some of the attack down that side.

Exactly .. his inept partner inside of him was a disgrace !

Im not sure you understand how defence works between centre & winger. Why do you think that Mbye, who has been our best and most reliable defender in the backline all year, rushed up?

 

[Tiger5150]

Im a Brooks fan, but tonight he was poor. But he wasnt on his own, REynolds, Mbye, Hoffman, MCK, Clarke, all poor

Wow I think you are being harsh on Hoffman. They sent a lot of traffic and kicks his way. He defused all bombs and scored a good try. If his centre had of helped him a little in defence then they may have been able to withstand some of the attack down that side.

If Hoffman wasnt 10m out of position all night, Mbye wouldnt have had to rush up to try to stop the play. Its ok to give your opponent 10m of sideline if you are blinding fast, otherwise, if the 5/8 gets the winger the ball, its a try every time. Mbye was trying to cut it off each time

 

[avocadoontoast]

I’m not a Brooks basher but our halves are our Achilles heel. When Reynolds and brooks can make benji look good then something is not right. Kicking game is horrendous, no organisation. We will feel the affects of Ivan Cleary at this club for years to come. He pulled the Moses contract and signed brooks. While one has blossomed the other still hasn’t played a game better then his debut. Reynolds has energy and grunt, but pretty much nothing else. I can see hope for our forwards and our backs but our halves unfortunately Madge has inherited something that can’t be fixed.

Didn’t Madge re-sign Brooks? In fact hasn’t Madge signed/re-signed >75% of our top 17?

Yeah go figure

Even Doohey is on $400k

He’s easy worth that imo.

But he’s not even a fullback .
Last night although good under the Ball he’s a sloth ..

Disagree, I think he’s an excellent fullback.

 

[stevied]

Is it time to give Brooks a serious boot and drop him? Do we believe it's going to improve his play long term? Do we still believe he is the answer at halfback? Will his dropping cause further erosion in his confidence because, it's obvious that he is a confidence player.
Personally, I'd replace him with Madden, who showed glimpses of class in the trials. He can pass, has a kicking game and, isn't he also a goal kicker? Let Benji come back in to provide the experience and see what happens. I really don't think we are going to make the eight, especially with the injuries, suspensions and limited depth. We may as well see what we've got and try some things. The other approach, of course, is to persevere with Brooks, Reynolds and Mbye and play the averages. The team is at least competitive in every game but, is this the right approach when trying to keep an eye to the future?

 

[tig_prmz]

if reynolds escapes suspension, brooks on the bench for me.

the reason the coaching staff don't drop is because he's a confidence player but seriously enough is enough. He needs to make a decision in life if being an nrl halfback is for him. he is courageous but most of the time lacks the skills and the smarts

 

[Geo]

Im a Brooks fan, but tonight he was poor. But he wasnt on his own, REynolds, Mbye, Hoffman, MCK, Clarke, all poor

Wow I think you are being harsh on Hoffman. They sent a lot of traffic and kicks his way. He defused all bombs and scored a good try. If his centre had of helped him a little in defence then they may have been able to withstand some of the attack down that side.


If Hoffman wasnt 10m out of position all night, Mbye wouldnt have had to rush up to try to stop the play. Its ok to give your opponent 10m of sideline if you are blinding fast, otherwise, if the 5/8 gets the winger the ball, its a try every time. Mbye was trying to cut it off each time

I don't think that was the case Hoffman's spacing seemed fine to me on most occasions the whole left edge malfunctioned last night ..that starts further in..had Hoffman held his wing there would have been a 15m gap between himself and Mbye for a centre to stroll through..

I don't think the whole side communicated well enough ..they were all on a different page..some rushing up some attempting to slide all at the same time..it's on them all added to that the trend for the Fullback to defend in the line..rather than sweeping up the mess

Roberts TRY was the most disappointing ..you could see it coming and Brooks still had a chance to stop it but fell off the tackle badly on the touchline ..which has been unlike him..

 

[happy_tiger]

Brooks played well his defence was solid all night.Some people just like to criticise him and Nof because they can

why don't you forum members that continue to knock Brooks go and support another team. He was not the reason we lost the game our forwards could not go forward and as per some forum members have alluded to we should be paying 2 props for go forward, I blame Madge for this loss not selecting a forward pack that could not make yards, shows however we are still a thereabouts team.

Why dont you forum members that think Brooks is on par with Joey Johns give an example of anything he adds to the team. Anything. The Tigers will never make the finals with this pretender at 7. Ive got 6 years of proof to back that up.

Someone needs to spike Brooks’s drink bottle with some pingers
Or take the kid to the brothel ...one worst

 

[happy_tiger]

Im a Brooks fan, but tonight he was poor. But he wasnt on his own, REynolds, Mbye, Hoffman, MCK, Clarke, all poor

Wow I think you are being harsh on Hoffman. They sent a lot of traffic and kicks his way. He defused all bombs and scored a good try. If his centre had of helped him a little in defence then they may have been able to withstand some of the attack down that side.


If Hoffman wasnt 10m out of position all night, Mbye wouldnt have had to rush up to try to stop the play. Its ok to give your opponent 10m of sideline if you are blinding fast, otherwise, if the 5/8 gets the winger the ball, its a try every time. Mbye was trying to cut it off each time

I don't think that was the case Hoffman's spacing seemed fine to me on most occasions the whole left edge malfunctioned last night ..that starts further in..had Hoffman held his wing there would have been a 15m gap between himself and Mbye for a centre to stroll through..

I don't think the whole side communicated well enough ..they were all on a different page..some rushing up some attempting to slide all at the same time..it's on them all added to that the trend for the Fullback to defend in the line..rather than sweeping up the mess

Roberts TRY was the most disappointing ..you could see it coming and Brooks still had a chance to stop it but fell off the tackle badly on the touchline ..which has been unlike him..

Last try was the worst easily

How do you rate Brooks game last night

Kicking game F

Game organization E minus

Defence C

Running game D minus

That was unacceptable last night
...not getting one tackle in our opposition 20 for 40 minutes .....Brooks and the forwards have to own that

 

[Hangonaminute]

Is it time to give Brooks a serious boot and drop him? Do we believe it's going to improve his play long term? Do we still believe he is the answer at halfback? Will his dropping cause further erosion in his confidence because, it's obvious that he is a confidence player.
Personally, I'd replace him with Madden, who showed glimpses of class in the trials. He can pass, has a kicking game and, isn't he also a goal kicker? Let Benji come back in to provide the experience and see what happens. I really don't think we are going to make the eight, especially with the injuries, suspensions and limited depth. We may as well see what we've got and try some things. The other approach, of course, is to persevere with Brooks, Reynolds and Mbye and play the averages. The team is at least competitive in every game but, is this the right approach when trying to keep an eye to the future?

Yes
Probably not
No

 

[bathursttiger1]

Im a Brooks fan, but tonight he was poor. But he wasnt on his own, REynolds, Mbye, Hoffman, MCK, Clarke, all poor

Wow I think you are being harsh on Hoffman. They sent a lot of traffic and kicks his way. He defused all bombs and scored a good try. If his centre had of helped him a little in defence then they may have been able to withstand some of the attack down that side.


If Hoffman wasnt 10m out of position all night, Mbye wouldnt have had to rush up to try to stop the play. Its ok to give your opponent 10m of sideline if you are blinding fast, otherwise, if the 5/8 gets the winger the ball, its a try every time. Mbye was trying to cut it off each time

I don't think that was the case Hoffman's spacing seemed fine to me on most occasions the whole left edge malfunctioned last night ..that starts further in..had Hoffman held his wing there would have been a 15m gap between himself and Mbye for a centre to stroll through..

I don't think the whole side communicated well enough ..they were all on a different page..some rushing up some attempting to slide all at the same time..it's on them all added to that the trend for the Fullback to defend in the line..rather than sweeping up the mess

Roberts TRY was the most disappointing ..you could see it coming and Brooks still had a chance to stop it but fell off the tackle badly on the touchline ..which has been unlike him..

Good summation Geo, Tiger5150 have a read.

 

[Needaname]

His gone. If Madge is serious about his video sessions. He’d pick up that there was just no involvement from Brooks in the middle of the set prior till Benji came on.
I don’t believe Brooks is a 5/8 I believe he is a halfback.
Josh and Benji are far better 5/8 options, as they are creators, they know what to do when the options present and how to react.
Brooks has all the skills to be a great half, just does not have the temperament to, some would ask whether he has the temperament to be a professional rugby league player.
Worst game I’ve seen in a long time, I found him a lot more involved last week.
I was at the game, in front of the posts watching our attack in the first half coming towards us.
Brooks was always wide. Reynolds is like a lit dynamite. His in around the ruck his busy his pushing his players to run, slapping guys etc. Brooks is just standing, waiting the ball comes to him, reacts.
I like the kid and thought it was finally a good thing to have a composed halfback. But he is just not showing a care in the world at the moment.
A good gauge would be if you could find the overall run meters (all game runs, not just with the ball).
Cleary and Keary led the way last week with almost 10kms.
Brooks I reckon would be right down in that stat.
One thing I noticed is Madge made mention of Brooks involvement and organising middle of the field in the press conference.

 

[Toowoomba_Tiger]

Im a Brooks fan, but tonight he was poor. But he wasnt on his own, REynolds, Mbye, Hoffman, MCK, Clarke, all poor

Wow I think you are being harsh on Hoffman. They sent a lot of traffic and kicks his way. He defused all bombs and scored a good try. If his centre had of helped him a little in defence then they may have been able to withstand some of the attack down that side.

Exactly .. his inept partner inside of him was a disgrace !

Im not sure you understand how defence works between centre & winger. Why do you think that Mbye, who has been our best and most reliable defender in the backline all year, rushed up?

Yes he was trying to shut down the play, but failed miserably time and time again and made no adjustments

 

[Geo]

Im a Brooks fan, but tonight he was poor. But he wasnt on his own, REynolds, Mbye, Hoffman, MCK, Clarke, all poor

Wow I think you are being harsh on Hoffman. They sent a lot of traffic and kicks his way. He defused all bombs and scored a good try. If his centre had of helped him a little in defence then they may have been able to withstand some of the attack down that side.


If Hoffman wasnt 10m out of position all night, Mbye wouldnt have had to rush up to try to stop the play. Its ok to give your opponent 10m of sideline if you are blinding fast, otherwise, if the 5/8 gets the winger the ball, its a try every time. Mbye was trying to cut it off each time

I don't think that was the case Hoffman's spacing seemed fine to me on most occasions the whole left edge malfunctioned last night ..that starts further in..had Hoffman held his wing there would have been a 15m gap between himself and Mbye for a centre to stroll through..

I don't think the whole side communicated well enough ..they were all on a different page..some rushing up some attempting to slide all at the same time..it's on them all added to that the trend for the Fullback to defend in the line..rather than sweeping up the mess

Roberts TRY was the most disappointing ..you could see it coming and Brooks still had a chance to stop it but fell off the tackle badly on the touchline ..which has been unlike him..

Last try was the worst easily

How do you rate Brooks game last night

Kicking game F

Game organization E minus

Defence C

Running game D minus

That was unacceptable last night
...not getting one tackle in our opposition 20 for 40 minutes .....Brooks and the forwards have to own that

I agree ..Brooks was poor for the majority of the game but not on his own..the 1st half was very disappointing..we did get 1 tackle in the opposition 20 which Brooks put a crossfield kick that came down on the TRYLINE which Lawrence caught..I know this cause hobbo congratulated flipper hands for it but the fact it was our only scoring opportunity in 40mins say everything about how we controlled possession and field position.. Souff's should have been up by 40 given the penalty count, restarts, dud calls so I guess that's something..I don't think they played perfect football for 55 minutes before we got a penalty..

The second half was only a bit better..the last 20 more so controlled the ball and put on points..the kick Nofoaluma contested deemed knocked forward was line ball ..we are never going to get those calls

It's human nature tho you can do 99 good things and 1 bad which is what gets focused on

 

[mike]

Im a Brooks fan, but tonight he was poor. But he wasnt on his own, REynolds, Mbye, Hoffman, MCK, Clarke, all poor

Wow I think you are being harsh on Hoffman. They sent a lot of traffic and kicks his way. He defused all bombs and scored a good try. If his centre had of helped him a little in defence then they may have been able to withstand some of the attack down that side.


If Hoffman wasnt 10m out of position all night, Mbye wouldnt have had to rush up to try to stop the play. Its ok to give your opponent 10m of sideline if you are blinding fast, otherwise, if the 5/8 gets the winger the ball, its a try every time. Mbye was trying to cut it off each time

I don't think that was the case Hoffman's spacing seemed fine to me on most occasions the whole left edge malfunctioned last night ..that starts further in..had Hoffman held his wing there would have been a 15m gap between himself and Mbye for a centre to stroll through..

I don't think the whole side communicated well enough ..they were all on a different page..some rushing up some attempting to slide all at the same time..it's on them all added to that the trend for the Fullback to defend in the line..rather than sweeping up the mess

Roberts TRY was the most disappointing ..you could see it coming and Brooks still had a chance to stop it but fell off the tackle badly on the touchline ..which has been unlike him..

The problem definitely starts closer to the ruck. The outside backs are often left defending 2 on 3, with the opposition having the overlap. Do that consistently and the opposition will score points on the edge consistently as well.

 

[momo_amp_medo]

Not his best game. He needs a change of environment and coaching.
Madge should seriously consider talking to his mate in Melbourne and organising a full year swap.
It may work.