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[TigerWest]

I know of a sponsor who wrote Pascoe an email some two-three months ago. The email discussed amongst other things, the performance of the team and make up of the board.

There were two main points raised in particular

1) Firstly, the sponsor expressed their desire for it to be communicated to the board that the current board arrangement appeared to lack direct accountability to stakeholders. There was no direct link between sponsors/fans and the board - no means of voting right membership in Wests Tigers.

2) The 2nd point raised by the sponsor was the fact that our board didn't have footy experience and pointed to Penrith and the Roosters as an example (Greg Alexander is a board member for Penrith & Luke Ricketson is a board member for the Roosters).

The sponsor was not even given the courtesy of an acknowledgement let alone a reply.

Fair to say, the sponsor wont be back in 2022.

While I'm sure this sponsor had their heart in the right place, they don't seem to know anything about how our board is composed.

Failures who cant be removed and even more failures who cant be removed.I can understand why the sponsor is less than impressed

You can always join one of the clubs that own Wests Tigers and vote accordingly.

You can even put your money where your mouth is and go for a spot on the board too.

Why should we have a board made up of leagues club members from our two joint ventures.

Gee talk about reducing the election options.

What do you propose?

We're no different to any other NRL club that's backed by a leagues club.

Maybe some would prefer the Parra or Dog's type board elections, where they create total kayos during elections? Then up factional fighting until the next elections?

 

[Geo]

Not to detract from the current topic.

There was recent thread regarding the board. I was curious as I can only find the following info on our official website as to the make up does anyone know how the tenure of each board member?

https://www.weststigers.com.au/about/board/

The board is not an elected board..they are nominated by the JV partners..

Can you explain this further?

Wests Ashfield, WSDRL and BDRLC.. select the Members of the Wests Tigers Board..

The Chair is Independent..

 

[TheDaBoss]

I am a ~~bored~~ sorry a **BOARD** member

 

[happy_tiger]

I know of a sponsor who wrote Pascoe an email some two-three months ago. The email discussed amongst other things, the performance of the team and make up of the board.

There were two main points raised in particular

1) Firstly, the sponsor expressed their desire for it to be communicated to the board that the current board arrangement appeared to lack direct accountability to stakeholders. There was no direct link between sponsors/fans and the board - no means of voting right membership in Wests Tigers.

2) The 2nd point raised by the sponsor was the fact that our board didn't have footy experience and pointed to Penrith and the Roosters as an example (Greg Alexander is a board member for Penrith & Luke Ricketson is a board member for the Roosters).

The sponsor was not even given the courtesy of an acknowledgement let alone a reply.

Fair to say, the sponsor wont be back in 2022.

While I'm sure this sponsor had their heart in the right place, they don't seem to know anything about how our board is composed.

Failures who cant be removed and even more failures who cant be removed.I can understand why the sponsor is less than impressed

You can always join one of the clubs that own Wests Tigers and vote accordingly.

You can even put your money where your mouth is and go for a spot on the board too.

Why should we have a board made up of leagues club members from our two joint ventures.

Gee talk about reducing the election options.

What do you propose?

We're no different to any other NRL club that's backed by a leagues club.

Maybe some would prefer the Parra or Dog's type board elections, where they create total kayos during elections? Then up factional fighting until the next elections?

That would be fun ...imagine a Forum nominated board .....corruption ...members stabbing each other in the backs .....threats of violence ...and that's just the Last Man Standing lol

 

[hobbo1]

I know of a sponsor who wrote Pascoe an email some two-three months ago. The email discussed amongst other things, the performance of the team and make up of the board.

There were two main points raised in particular

1) Firstly, the sponsor expressed their desire for it to be communicated to the board that the current board arrangement appeared to lack direct accountability to stakeholders. There was no direct link between sponsors/fans and the board - no means of voting right membership in Wests Tigers.

2) The 2nd point raised by the sponsor was the fact that our board didn't have footy experience and pointed to Penrith and the Roosters as an example (Greg Alexander is a board member for Penrith & Luke Ricketson is a board member for the Roosters).

The sponsor was not even given the courtesy of an acknowledgement let alone a reply.

Fair to say, the sponsor wont be back in 2022.

While I'm sure this sponsor had their heart in the right place, they don't seem to know anything about how our board is composed.

Failures who cant be removed and even more failures who cant be removed.I can understand why the sponsor is less than impressed

You can always join one of the clubs that own Wests Tigers and vote accordingly.

You can even put your money where your mouth is and go for a spot on the board too.

Why should we have a board made up of leagues club members from our two joint ventures.

Gee talk about reducing the election options.

What do you propose?

We're no different to any other NRL club that's backed by a leagues club.

Maybe some would prefer the Parra or Dog's type board elections, where they create total kayos during elections? Then up factional fighting until the next elections?

That would be fun ...imagine a Forum nominated board .....corruption ...members stabbing each other in the backs .....threats of violence ...and that's just the Last Man Standing lol

P6 comp ?
?

 

[happy_tiger]

I know of a sponsor who wrote Pascoe an email some two-three months ago. The email discussed amongst other things, the performance of the team and make up of the board.

There were two main points raised in particular

1) Firstly, the sponsor expressed their desire for it to be communicated to the board that the current board arrangement appeared to lack direct accountability to stakeholders. There was no direct link between sponsors/fans and the board - no means of voting right membership in Wests Tigers.

2) The 2nd point raised by the sponsor was the fact that our board didn't have footy experience and pointed to Penrith and the Roosters as an example (Greg Alexander is a board member for Penrith & Luke Ricketson is a board member for the Roosters).

The sponsor was not even given the courtesy of an acknowledgement let alone a reply.

Fair to say, the sponsor wont be back in 2022.

While I'm sure this sponsor had their heart in the right place, they don't seem to know anything about how our board is composed.

Failures who cant be removed and even more failures who cant be removed.I can understand why the sponsor is less than impressed

You can always join one of the clubs that own Wests Tigers and vote accordingly.

You can even put your money where your mouth is and go for a spot on the board too.

Why should we have a board made up of leagues club members from our two joint ventures.

Gee talk about reducing the election options.

What do you propose?

We're no different to any other NRL club that's backed by a leagues club.

Maybe some would prefer the Parra or Dog's type board elections, where they create total kayos during elections? Then up factional fighting until the next elections?

That would be fun ...imagine a Forum nominated board .....corruption ...members stabbing each other in the backs .....threats of violence ...and that's just the Last Man Standing lol

P6 comp ?
?

Dunno mate ......maybe

 

[hobbo1]

I know of a sponsor who wrote Pascoe an email some two-three months ago. The email discussed amongst other things, the performance of the team and make up of the board.

There were two main points raised in particular

1) Firstly, the sponsor expressed their desire for it to be communicated to the board that the current board arrangement appeared to lack direct accountability to stakeholders. There was no direct link between sponsors/fans and the board - no means of voting right membership in Wests Tigers.

2) The 2nd point raised by the sponsor was the fact that our board didn't have footy experience and pointed to Penrith and the Roosters as an example (Greg Alexander is a board member for Penrith & Luke Ricketson is a board member for the Roosters).

The sponsor was not even given the courtesy of an acknowledgement let alone a reply.

Fair to say, the sponsor wont be back in 2022.

While I'm sure this sponsor had their heart in the right place, they don't seem to know anything about how our board is composed.

Failures who cant be removed and even more failures who cant be removed.I can understand why the sponsor is less than impressed

You can always join one of the clubs that own Wests Tigers and vote accordingly.

You can even put your money where your mouth is and go for a spot on the board too.

Why should we have a board made up of leagues club members from our two joint ventures.

Gee talk about reducing the election options.

What do you propose?

We're no different to any other NRL club that's backed by a leagues club.

Maybe some would prefer the Parra or Dog's type board elections, where they create total kayos during elections? Then up factional fighting until the next elections?

That would be fun ...imagine a Forum nominated board .....corruption ...members stabbing each other in the backs .....threats of violence ...and that's just the Last Man Standing lol

P6 comp ?
?

Dunno mate ......maybe

We promise to behave ..
Geo’s a scouser

 

[TheDaBoss]

I know of a sponsor who wrote Pascoe an email some two-three months ago. The email discussed amongst other things, the performance of the team and make up of the board.

There were two main points raised in particular

1) Firstly, the sponsor expressed their desire for it to be communicated to the board that the current board arrangement appeared to lack direct accountability to stakeholders. There was no direct link between sponsors/fans and the board - no means of voting right membership in Wests Tigers.

2) The 2nd point raised by the sponsor was the fact that our board didn't have footy experience and pointed to Penrith and the Roosters as an example (Greg Alexander is a board member for Penrith & Luke Ricketson is a board member for the Roosters).

The sponsor was not even given the courtesy of an acknowledgement let alone a reply.

Fair to say, the sponsor wont be back in 2022.

While I'm sure this sponsor had their heart in the right place, they don't seem to know anything about how our board is composed.

Failures who cant be removed and even more failures who cant be removed.I can understand why the sponsor is less than impressed

You can always join one of the clubs that own Wests Tigers and vote accordingly.

You can even put your money where your mouth is and go for a spot on the board too.

Why should we have a board made up of leagues club members from our two joint ventures.

Gee talk about reducing the election options.

What do you propose?

We're no different to any other NRL club that's backed by a leagues club.

Maybe some would prefer the Parra or Dog's type board elections, where they create total kayos during elections? Then up factional fighting until the next elections?

That would be fun ...imagine a Forum nominated board .....corruption ...members stabbing each other in the backs .....threats of violence ...and that's just the Last Man Standing lol

P6 comp ?
?

Dunno mate ......maybe

We promise to behave ..
Geo’s a scouser

Survivor West tigers edition , make it thru a tigers vamr without laughing

 

[hobbo1]

I know of a sponsor who wrote Pascoe an email some two-three months ago. The email discussed amongst other things, the performance of the team and make up of the board.

There were two main points raised in particular

1) Firstly, the sponsor expressed their desire for it to be communicated to the board that the current board arrangement appeared to lack direct accountability to stakeholders. There was no direct link between sponsors/fans and the board - no means of voting right membership in Wests Tigers.

2) The 2nd point raised by the sponsor was the fact that our board didn't have footy experience and pointed to Penrith and the Roosters as an example (Greg Alexander is a board member for Penrith & Luke Ricketson is a board member for the Roosters).

The sponsor was not even given the courtesy of an acknowledgement let alone a reply.

Fair to say, the sponsor wont be back in 2022.

While I'm sure this sponsor had their heart in the right place, they don't seem to know anything about how our board is composed.

Failures who cant be removed and even more failures who cant be removed.I can understand why the sponsor is less than impressed

You can always join one of the clubs that own Wests Tigers and vote accordingly.

You can even put your money where your mouth is and go for a spot on the board too.

Why should we have a board made up of leagues club members from our two joint ventures.

Gee talk about reducing the election options.

What do you propose?

We're no different to any other NRL club that's backed by a leagues club.

Maybe some would prefer the Parra or Dog's type board elections, where they create total kayos during elections? Then up factional fighting until the next elections?

That would be fun ...imagine a Forum nominated board .....corruption ...members stabbing each other in the backs .....threats of violence ...and that's just the Last Man Standing lol

P6 comp ?
?

Dunno mate ......maybe

We promise to behave ..
Geo’s a scouser

Survivor West tigers edition , make it thru a tigers vamr without laughing

Can’t happen

 

[TheDaBoss]

I know of a sponsor who wrote Pascoe an email some two-three months ago. The email discussed amongst other things, the performance of the team and make up of the board.

There were two main points raised in particular

1) Firstly, the sponsor expressed their desire for it to be communicated to the board that the current board arrangement appeared to lack direct accountability to stakeholders. There was no direct link between sponsors/fans and the board - no means of voting right membership in Wests Tigers.

2) The 2nd point raised by the sponsor was the fact that our board didn't have footy experience and pointed to Penrith and the Roosters as an example (Greg Alexander is a board member for Penrith & Luke Ricketson is a board member for the Roosters).

The sponsor was not even given the courtesy of an acknowledgement let alone a reply.

Fair to say, the sponsor wont be back in 2022.

While I'm sure this sponsor had their heart in the right place, they don't seem to know anything about how our board is composed.

Failures who cant be removed and even more failures who cant be removed.I can understand why the sponsor is less than impressed

You can always join one of the clubs that own Wests Tigers and vote accordingly.

You can even put your money where your mouth is and go for a spot on the board too.

Why should we have a board made up of leagues club members from our two joint ventures.

Gee talk about reducing the election options.

What do you propose?

We're no different to any other NRL club that's backed by a leagues club.

Maybe some would prefer the Parra or Dog's type board elections, where they create total kayos during elections? Then up factional fighting until the next elections?

That would be fun ...imagine a Forum nominated board .....corruption ...members stabbing each other in the backs .....threats of violence ...and that's just the Last Man Standing lol

P6 comp ?
?

Dunno mate ......maybe

We promise to behave ..
Geo’s a scouser

Survivor West tigers edition , make it thru a tigers vamr without laughing

Can’t happen

I vote u out first?

 

[mike]

I know of a sponsor who wrote Pascoe an email some two-three months ago. The email discussed amongst other things, the performance of the team and make up of the board.

There were two main points raised in particular

1) Firstly, the sponsor expressed their desire for it to be communicated to the board that the current board arrangement appeared to lack direct accountability to stakeholders. There was no direct link between sponsors/fans and the board - no means of voting right membership in Wests Tigers.

2) The 2nd point raised by the sponsor was the fact that our board didn't have footy experience and pointed to Penrith and the Roosters as an example (Greg Alexander is a board member for Penrith & Luke Ricketson is a board member for the Roosters).

The sponsor was not even given the courtesy of an acknowledgement let alone a reply.

Fair to say, the sponsor wont be back in 2022.

While I'm sure this sponsor had their heart in the right place, they don't seem to know anything about how our board is composed.

Failures who cant be removed and even more failures who cant be removed.I can understand why the sponsor is less than impressed

You can always join one of the clubs that own Wests Tigers and vote accordingly.

You can even put your money where your mouth is and go for a spot on the board too.

Why should we have a board made up of leagues club members from our two joint ventures.

Gee talk about reducing the election options.

What do you propose?

We're no different to any other NRL club that's backed by a leagues club.

Maybe some would prefer the Parra or Dog's type board elections, where they create total kayos during elections? Then up factional fighting until the next elections?

That would be fun ...imagine a Forum nominated board .....corruption ...members stabbing each other in the backs .....threats of violence ...and that's just the Last Man Standing lol

P6 comp ?
?

Dunno mate ......maybe

We promise to behave ..
Geo’s a scouser

Survivor West tigers edition , make it thru a tigers vamr without laughing

Can’t happen

I vote u out first?

I’ll second that.

 

[Geo]

Back on topic please...

 

[cochise]

I know of a sponsor who wrote Pascoe an email some two-three months ago. The email discussed amongst other things, the performance of the team and make up of the board.

There were two main points raised in particular

1) Firstly, the sponsor expressed their desire for it to be communicated to the board that the current board arrangement appeared to lack direct accountability to stakeholders. There was no direct link between sponsors/fans and the board - no means of voting right membership in Wests Tigers.

2) The 2nd point raised by the sponsor was the fact that our board didn't have footy experience and pointed to Penrith and the Roosters as an example (Greg Alexander is a board member for Penrith & Luke Ricketson is a board member for the Roosters).

The sponsor was not even given the courtesy of an acknowledgement let alone a reply.

Fair to say, the sponsor wont be back in 2022.

While I'm sure this sponsor had their heart in the right place, they don't seem to know anything about how our board is composed.

Failures who cant be removed and even more failures who cant be removed.I can understand why the sponsor is less than impressed

You can always join one of the clubs that own Wests Tigers and vote accordingly.

You can even put your money where your mouth is and go for a spot on the board too.

Why should we have a board made up of leagues club members from our two joint ventures.

Gee talk about reducing the election options.

What do you propose?

We're no different to any other NRL club that's backed by a leagues club.

Maybe some would prefer the Parra or Dog's type board elections, where they create total kayos during elections? Then up factional fighting until the next elections?

That would be fun ...imagine a Forum nominated board .....corruption ...members stabbing each other in the backs .....threats of violence ...and that's just the Last Man Standing lol

P6 comp ?
?

Dunno mate ......maybe

We promise to behave ..
Geo’s a scouser

Survivor West tigers edition , make it thru a tigers vamr without laughing

I know who I would be voting out lol

 

[hobbo1]

Back on topic please...

That you Seymour?

 

[happy_tiger]

I know of a sponsor who wrote Pascoe an email some two-three months ago. The email discussed amongst other things, the performance of the team and make up of the board.

There were two main points raised in particular

1) Firstly, the sponsor expressed their desire for it to be communicated to the board that the current board arrangement appeared to lack direct accountability to stakeholders. There was no direct link between sponsors/fans and the board - no means of voting right membership in Wests Tigers.

2) The 2nd point raised by the sponsor was the fact that our board didn't have footy experience and pointed to Penrith and the Roosters as an example (Greg Alexander is a board member for Penrith & Luke Ricketson is a board member for the Roosters).

The sponsor was not even given the courtesy of an acknowledgement let alone a reply.

Fair to say, the sponsor wont be back in 2022.

While I'm sure this sponsor had their heart in the right place, they don't seem to know anything about how our board is composed.

Failures who cant be removed and even more failures who cant be removed.I can understand why the sponsor is less than impressed

You can always join one of the clubs that own Wests Tigers and vote accordingly.

You can even put your money where your mouth is and go for a spot on the board too.

Why should we have a board made up of leagues club members from our two joint ventures.

Gee talk about reducing the election options.

What do you propose?

We're no different to any other NRL club that's backed by a leagues club.

Maybe some would prefer the Parra or Dog's type board elections, where they create total kayos during elections? Then up factional fighting until the next elections?

That would be fun ...imagine a Forum nominated board .....corruption ...members stabbing each other in the backs .....threats of violence ...and that's just the Last Man Standing lol

P6 comp ?
?

Dunno mate ......maybe

We promise to behave ..
Geo’s a scouser

Scourer

 

[Needaname]

Not to detract from the current topic.

There was recent thread regarding the board. I was curious as I can only find the following info on our official website as to the make up does anyone know how the tenure of each board member?

https://www.weststigers.com.au/about/board/

The board is not an elected board..they are nominated by the JV partners..

Can you explain this further?

Wests Ashfield, WSDRL and BDRLC.. select the Members of the Wests Tigers Board..

The Chair is Independent..

Thank you Geo.
Do you know when the current board was last selected and of those board members those that were newly elected?
I.e new to the board

 

[Geo]

Not to detract from the current topic.

There was recent thread regarding the board. I was curious as I can only find the following info on our official website as to the make up does anyone know how the tenure of each board member?

https://www.weststigers.com.au/about/board/

The board is not an elected board..they are nominated by the JV partners..

Can you explain this further?

Wests Ashfield, WSDRL and BDRLC.. select the Members of the Wests Tigers Board..

The Chair is Independent..

Thank you Geo.
Do you know when the current board was last selected and of those board members those that were newly elected?
I.e new to the board

Not elected..selected..

Mid 2020 was the last change Mick Lubinskas removed Julie Romero appointed..before that 2018 from memory..

 

[jirskyr]

Onto the mechanisms, it absolutely does matter how and where the money comes from because donations can’t be considered recurring revenue. You can broadly forecast out merchandise sales and ticket sales etc, but how can you with any surety rely on donations to get you through? What happens if they stop donating? That means a huge revenue stream dries up and we’re screwed. It is the antithesis of self reliance. As CEO it’s important for him to create recurring revenue streams, not donations that can be turned off at any point. That is business 101.

Well two things.

Firstly you misunderstood my question - I asked by what mechanism will a new CEO (alone) achieve better on-field performance (i.e. without sacking other staff). The CEO can only peripherally impact football operations and is still operating at the direction of the Board.

Secondly, most of Tigers revenue is unpredictable. Sure, if people stop donating it's a problem (I think Pascoe is referring to the Wests Tigers Foundation, which is not just randos giving the club money). Also it's a problem if nobody wants to sponsor the club, or they can't get elite-level members, or if results drive bad crowds etc. I don't see a problem with relying on donations, so long as it's not the only source of income. And it's not. The whole point of the Tigers operations over the past 5+ years has been to diversify the income streams. Business 101 as you say.

 

[jirskyr]

I know of a sponsor who wrote Pascoe an email some two-three months ago. The email discussed amongst other things, the performance of the team and make up of the board.

There were two main points raised in particular

1) Firstly, the sponsor expressed their desire for it to be communicated to the board that the current board arrangement appeared to lack direct accountability to stakeholders. There was no direct link between sponsors/fans and the board - no means of voting right membership in Wests Tigers.

2) The 2nd point raised by the sponsor was the fact that our board didn't have footy experience and pointed to Penrith and the Roosters as an example (Greg Alexander is a board member for Penrith & Luke Ricketson is a board member for the Roosters).

The sponsor was not even given the courtesy of an acknowledgement let alone a reply.

Fair to say, the sponsor wont be back in 2022.

While I'm sure this sponsor had their heart in the right place, they don't seem to know anything about how our board is composed.

Educate me then on how one can become a member of Wests Tigers and vote for board appointments.

You can’t directly. The Wests Tigers board is appointed by its shareholders, effectively Wests Ashfield and BRLFC.

I know mate - and that's the point. There is no direct link between fans/sponsors and the board.

Theoretically, someone who's only association with Wests Tigers is the fact that they are a member at Wests Ashfield and enjoy the pokies on a Saturday afternoon have more say then a ticketed club member of the Wests Tigers.

The problem is that's the agreement of the merger. The club was literally incorporated with a board appointed by the merged clubs. The NRL forced some independent directors when it loaned Balmain money, but I'm fairly sure Wests have removed that requirement by paying back the NRL loan.

There are only a few clubs where members can vote:

* Bulldogs - you need to be a paid-up football club member for at least 3 years, to vote for the Board
* Eels - be a member of the Leagues club for at least 3 years
* Panthers - be a member of the Leagues club for at least 3 years
* Souths - you have to be a member and you can vote/run for the South Sydney Members Rugby League Football Club Board, which supplies some members to the overall Souths Board. **Souths are the only club in the comp that let ticketed members vote.**
* Manly allow 2/7 board members to be voted in from the Manly-W RLFC.
* Sharks - be a paid Leagues or Football club member

To join the Roosters board you have to be invited - how typical.

Dragons - pretty sure it's the same as Tigers - you can vote / run for the Dragons Leagues or Steelers Club boards, then try politicking your way onto the St George Illawarra football board.

You'll notice a very strong and consistent precedent amongst the clubs that have voting members - they are 100% Sydney clubs and they are all "old" clubs (incorporated 1967 or earlier). They are old models, legacies of a time when pokie clubs propped up most clubs in NSW.

Souths are the only club that legitimately allows season ticket holders to vote. No other club does that, even the ones with Leagues club voting rights don't extend those rights to season ticket holders.

 

[twentyforty]

Can someone post a copy of the 2020 Annual Report?