Ch 9 hammers NRL

Palaszczuk has said no to Origin in 2020..does not want her players to get sick..

#3inarow
 
@Tigerboy said in [Ch 9 hammers NRL](/post/1142699) said:
@Geo said in [Ch 9 hammers NRL](/post/1142691) said:
Palaszczuk has said no to Origin in 2020..does not want her players to get sick..

#3inarow

#whocares

Annastacia obviously..
 
@Geo said in [Ch 9 hammers NRL](/post/1142691) said:
Palaszczuk has said no to Origin in 2020..does not want her players to get sick..

#3inarow

Starting to feel like NRL is becoming a political punching bag. Politicians (and retired egomaniacs starved of attention) using NRL stance to look tough. Like really - why would Jeff Kennett buy in to the NRL debate?
 
Channel Nine has outlined a vision of its preferred future NRL television deal at a crisis meeting with ARLC chairman Peter V'landys, with the free-to-air broadcaster favouring two exclusive games per round as part of an extended rights contract.

After Nine boss Hugh Marks met with V'landys at Racing NSW headquarters on Tuesday, sources close to the negotiations told the Herald Channel Nine, publisher of this masthead, wanted to give up the Thursday night game and concentrate on its traditional Friday night and Sunday afternoon time slots.

It also hopes pay-TV broadcaster Foxtel, who will join Nine and the NRL in negotiations later this week, can be convinced to relinquish its Friday 6pm game as part of a new rights deal that would do away with the current simulcast arrangement.

"Today, Nine CEO Hugh Marks and I had a constructive and co-operative meeting about rugby league in 2020 and beyond," V'landys said in a statement after the meeting.

"I am buoyed by Mr Marks’ support of rugby league and his commitment to the game. The meeting provided us with the opportunity to outline our positions and discuss next steps to navigate this crisis.

"We are both focused on the long-term success of the game and, while there is more work to do, I am optimistic we will find a way through this together. Our next meeting, where we will endeavour to construct a road map for the game this year, must include Foxtel CEO Patrick Delany."

The Herald has been told by sources with knowledge of the meeting that Nine also expressed its preference to wipe the 2020 season, in stark contrast to V'landys' push for a May 28 restart. The end result could fall somewhere in the middle.

Nine doesn't want to walk away from the game. It wants a two-year extension, but under different terms and for less than the $110 million it currently pays the governing body each year.

Due to the coronavirus pandemic, the NRL has been unable to deliver on the product its broadcasters had expected as part of a $1.8 billion rights deal over five years. The NRL has enacted the force majeure clause after being left with no choice but to breach its contract with its broadcast partners.

None of the parties involved wants to see the matter head to court, hence the renegotiation that's about to take place between V'landys, Marks and Delany.

V'landys is a realist. It's unlikely the NRL will deliver all of its promised content this year, and the world in which $1.8 billion rugby league broadcast deals are done may no longer exist.

Foxtel has recently made moves to lower its cost base. Only last week it made 200 staff redundant and stood down another 140 employees until the end of June.

Right now Fox Sports broadcasts all eight games, three of which are simulcast with Nine and five exclusive matches.

Changing the structure to suit Nine would also benefit Fox. The fact it has only six exclusive games is unlikely to impact on the number of subscribers - which underpins its business - but will mean it can reduce the $190 million it currently pays for the rights to all eight games.

Under that scenario, both both Fox and Nine win. They want to pay less. The NRL might not be quite as happy with the result but it gets the security of a deal for at least another two years in a climate that is providing very little certainty.

The NRL had been holding out hope of extracting more than $1.8bn in the 2023-2027 rights deal. It could call Nine's bluff, but it runs the risk of attracting even less, if any, revenue from Channel Seven or Channel 10.

Then there's the problem of starting a competition that is also meeting some resistance from government.

Prime Minister Scott Morrison, a rugby league tragic, applauded the NRL's determination to return to normality but reiterated a need to adhere to the nation's health advice.

"I like the ambition," Morrison said. "I like they are trying to get the show back on the road in some way. It will be subject to health advice and there will be no special arrangements."

NSW Deputy Premier John Barilaro seems to be the most vocal in his support of a May 28 NRL restart, volunteering to act as a “conduit” between the government and the league

"It’s an ambitious date but you have to set a target,” Barilaro told Fox Sports.

"I’m confident they can have a plan in place, and can get the health experts to sign off on it. It's not against the rules. They have every right to try and return. It's an ambitious date but it is one worth trying to get to."
https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/channel-nine-outlines-vision-for-preferred-nrl-future-20200414-p54jsv.html
 
@WT2K said in [Ch 9 hammers NRL](/post/1142720) said:
Channel Nine has outlined a vision of its preferred future NRL television deal at a crisis meeting with ARLC chairman Peter V'landys, with the free-to-air broadcaster favouring two exclusive games per round as part of an extended rights contract.

After Nine boss Hugh Marks met with V'landys at Racing NSW headquarters on Tuesday, sources close to the negotiations told the Herald Channel Nine, publisher of this masthead, wanted to give up the Thursday night game and concentrate on its traditional Friday night and Sunday afternoon time slots.

It also hopes pay-TV broadcaster Foxtel, who will join Nine and the NRL in negotiations later this week, can be convinced to relinquish its Friday 6pm game as part of a new rights deal that would do away with the current simulcast arrangement.

"Today, Nine CEO Hugh Marks and I had a constructive and co-operative meeting about rugby league in 2020 and beyond," V'landys said in a statement after the meeting.

"I am buoyed by Mr Marks’ support of rugby league and his commitment to the game. The meeting provided us with the opportunity to outline our positions and discuss next steps to navigate this crisis.

"We are both focused on the long-term success of the game and, while there is more work to do, I am optimistic we will find a way through this together. Our next meeting, where we will endeavour to construct a road map for the game this year, must include Foxtel CEO Patrick Delany."

The Herald has been told by sources with knowledge of the meeting that Nine also expressed its preference to wipe the 2020 season, in stark contrast to V'landys' push for a May 28 restart. The end result could fall somewhere in the middle.

Nine doesn't want to walk away from the game. It wants a two-year extension, but under different terms and for less than the $110 million it currently pays the governing body each year.

Due to the coronavirus pandemic, the NRL has been unable to deliver on the product its broadcasters had expected as part of a $1.8 billion rights deal over five years. The NRL has enacted the force majeure clause after being left with no choice but to breach its contract with its broadcast partners.

None of the parties involved wants to see the matter head to court, hence the renegotiation that's about to take place between V'landys, Marks and Delany.

V'landys is a realist. It's unlikely the NRL will deliver all of its promised content this year, and the world in which $1.8 billion rugby league broadcast deals are done may no longer exist.

Foxtel has recently made moves to lower its cost base. Only last week it made 200 staff redundant and stood down another 140 employees until the end of June.

Right now Fox Sports broadcasts all eight games, three of which are simulcast with Nine and five exclusive matches.

Changing the structure to suit Nine would also benefit Fox. The fact it has only six exclusive games is unlikely to impact on the number of subscribers - which underpins its business - but will mean it can reduce the $190 million it currently pays for the rights to all eight games.

Under that scenario, both both Fox and Nine win. They want to pay less. The NRL might not be quite as happy with the result but it gets the security of a deal for at least another two years in a climate that is providing very little certainty.

The NRL had been holding out hope of extracting more than $1.8bn in the 2023-2027 rights deal. It could call Nine's bluff, but it runs the risk of attracting even less, if any, revenue from Channel Seven or Channel 10.

Then there's the problem of starting a competition that is also meeting some resistance from government.

Prime Minister Scott Morrison, a rugby league tragic, applauded the NRL's determination to return to normality but reiterated a need to adhere to the nation's health advice.

"I like the ambition," Morrison said. "I like they are trying to get the show back on the road in some way. It will be subject to health advice and there will be no special arrangements."

NSW Deputy Premier John Barilaro seems to be the most vocal in his support of a May 28 NRL restart, volunteering to act as a “conduit” between the government and the league

"It’s an ambitious date but you have to set a target,” Barilaro told Fox Sports.

"I’m confident they can have a plan in place, and can get the health experts to sign off on it. It's not against the rules. They have every right to try and return. It's an ambitious date but it is one worth trying to get to."
https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/channel-nine-outlines-vision-for-preferred-nrl-future-20200414-p54jsv.html

Giving ch 9 exclusive rights for 2 games a week would be a terrible mistake.They add nothing to the game as it stands and shouldnt be rewarded.
 
The NRL has struck a deal for a $250m lifeline from a group of London banks and financial institutions, giving rugby league both financial breathing space and leverage in its negotiations with broadcaster the Nine Network. (The Australian)
 
@WT2K said in [Ch 9 hammers NRL](/post/1142794) said:
The NRL has struck a deal for a $250m lifeline from a group of London banks and financial institutions, giving rugby league both financial breathing space and leverage in its negotiations with broadcaster the Nine Network. (The Australian)

Is Dave Smith back involved in the banks in London?
 
@cochise said in [Ch 9 hammers NRL](/post/1142795) said:
@WT2K said in [Ch 9 hammers NRL](/post/1142794) said:
The NRL has struck a deal for a $250m lifeline from a group of London banks and financial institutions, giving rugby league both financial breathing space and leverage in its negotiations with broadcaster the Nine Network. (The Australian)

Is Dave Smith back involved in the banks in London?

Not sure. Company is Oakwell Sports Advisory. Will post full article in a few mins
 
@WT2K said in [Ch 9 hammers NRL](/post/1142794) said:
The NRL has struck a deal for a $250m lifeline from a group of London banks and financial institutions, giving rugby league both financial breathing space and leverage in its negotiations with broadcaster the Nine Network. (The Australian)

The NRL has struck a deal for a $250m lifeline from a group of London banks and financial institutions, giving rugby league both financial breathing space and leverage in its negotiations with broadcaster the Nine Network.

A huge line of credit, which could also come with support from the federal government, will be drawn down by the sport’s governing body and dispersed to needy NRL clubs within weeks, staving off the need for funds from Nine before the competition resumes.

The money will be secured against future income the sport ­receives, including broadcast and sponsorship revenue under contract until at least 2022, rather than a particular asset.

The NRL had to go offshore to secure its life-saving funding package — unlike the AFL, which last month used its ownership of ­Marvel Stadium in Melbourne as ­security on a $600m loan facility from NAB and ANZ.

The $250m line of credit for rugby league, brokered by London firm Oakwell Sports Advisory, will mean the code is less reliant on funding from its broadcasters in the short term as it battles to keep the sport afloat financially during the coronavirus pandemic.

Australian Rugby League Commission chairman Peter V’landys emerged from a key meeting with Nine chief executive Hugh Marks on Tuesday in Sydney, saying he was “buoyed by Mr Marks’s support for rugby league and his commitment to the game”.

Nine last week took the unusual step of publicly criticising NRL management for what a network spokesman said was a mishandling of the game and the wasting of the millions the TV ­network had invested in the sport.

Mr V’Landys has set a target of May 28 for the NRL to return to action on the field, although the games will be played without crowds for the foreseeable future.

Nine and Fox Sports are contracted to pay the NRL about $300m a year, combined, through to the end of the 2022 season, although there has been speculation that Nine would be happy if rugby league did not return in 2020.

Oakwell and the NRL are set to sign off on the deal within days, and there is an expectation within rugby league circles that the sport will ­receive $100m to start with and then have a further $150m to draw down if needed.

An interest rate at general market rates for relatively short-term lending will be struck, but that rate will be halved, in effect, if the NRL is able to secure support from the federal government for the loan.

The NRL will disperse the money to clubs on a case-by-case basis, opening the way for some of the poorer clubs to potentially receive more funds than their richer counterparts under strict conditions set by the code’s head office.

It could be a similar move as that undertaken by the AFL, which is imposing strict conditions on most of the clubs in its league, including having each of them ­report to head office regularly about their balance sheets and their overall financial situation.

Some AFL clubs have said they would not need additional funding from the AFL, including the likes of Hawthorn and Collingwood, while the Adelaide Crows have ­expressed a preference for sourcing their own financing.

NRL clubs have different funding sources, with half the competition owned by private individuals or groups — or, in the case of the Brisbane Broncos, being listed on the Australian Stock Exchange.

Other clubs are reliant on funding from their licensed clubs, which have all been shut down during the pandemic.

Oakwell has previously brokered deals for investments in sport, such as private equity firm CVC Capital Partners buying 27 per cent of top-flight rugby union in England in a £200m deal in 2018. CVC has reportedly been linked to other rugby union deals around the world, including a ­potential play for a stake in southern hemisphere rugby.

A source told The Australian CVC was not among the ­financial institutions that agreed to lend money to the NRL.
 
@Jay said in [Ch 9 hammers NRL](/post/1142048) said:
@Strongee said in [Ch 9 hammers NRL](/post/1141628) said:
@Jay said in [Ch 9 hammers NRL](/post/1141573) said:
If NRL is on while NSW folk are being fined for eating a kebab by themself I won't be able to by it tbh. I won't even watch it. Too much entitlement that they should play by other rules. I dont expect anyone else to have my opinion and I'm happy for others to enjoy the sport. That's just part of my view 🙂

This is a ludicrous take . It’s not on for 7 weeks . We were all gonna die just 7 days ago . The infection rate then was 22% and is now just above 1%. If the NRL goes into quarantine then isolated as a game , what is the difference between that , and isolating at home with your family ?
People being panic merchants fail to see how much sport is ingrained in the fabric of society .
The effect to the mental state of the population can’t be overstated .
It your right some bloke hetting pinned for eating a kebab in the worst affected area TODAY, is exactly the same as a whole company isolating ina regional location , then picking up their business , whilst broadcasting that ... in 7 weeks time .

I'd rather have a beer with my mates and play a game of sport with them now than watch a bunch of dudes getting paid heaps when everyone else has to be 2m apart and are losing their jobs. I don't care about football at all currently. Wait till the distancing rules are over then start it. And yes, the kebab dude being fined was nonsense lol. By himself. If he was doing pushups on the bench he'd be right. I was never trying to push my opinion man. Sports good I get it. I was kinda hoping Khabib and Ferguson would happen. But it makes more sense to me it isn't till this is over. Peace to you mate ??

None of what you just said is relevant to my reply and all of what you said is totally driven by self interest. The NRL is just like any top end of town corporation , with thousands of employees who arnt a bunch dudes getting paid heaps .
Things like front of house staff , merchandising , in the management team , the social media team , physios accounting and pay etc.
People like you irk me , as you go on social media and feed the beast of “why should I isolate and the nrl doesn’t “ .
When in actuality next to no one is actually isolating . I can go into any area all day and see people transacting and going about 80% of their normal day.
So why can’t the NRL . Especially if there’s no crowds and everyone follows strict guidelines .
And like I said it’s in 7 weeks . Also the Bundesliga just announced their looking at 5th May . In EUROPE !!!
It’s not the NRL driven by self interest , it’s people like you , who openly admit they don’t care about “the NRL right now “ but continue to bag them , for wanted to reopen business . Which if you speak to any cafe owner or gym owner , are looking to do the same thing .

This whole pandemic has reinforced my low opinion of many of the human race. Fueled by jealousy , self interest masquerading global awareness ,virtue signalling greed , and just really weak behaviour.
I applaud the NRL , as hopefully , it will begin a resurgence of everyone out of the shadows and back to regular life. Instead of reading biased media reports , and manipulating clear data , and clear passage of information.
 
@Tiger_Steve said in [Ch 9 hammers NRL](/post/1142737) said:
Ch 9 happy to wipe season. Really thinking of the fans. Well guess what? I’m happy to wipe ch 9!

So the 6 pm Friday game will be given to Ch9 to replay at 10 pm full of adds ... Ch9 have no interest in the fans of the game ! never have never will .. my question is why is the NRL bending over backwards to pander to the Junior player in the rights deal .. Fox pays double I think !
The NRL will continue to destroy our great game if they continually bend over to a telecaster that’s has driven its own ratings down with lacklustre presentation and out of touch commentary... surely the new era of streaming with corporations that NEED content and willing to pay is the way of the future .
Give Ch9 more content at your peril as that platform is a thing of the past !
 
@Snake said in [Ch 9 hammers NRL](/post/1142816) said:
@Tiger_Steve said in [Ch 9 hammers NRL](/post/1142737) said:
Ch 9 happy to wipe season. Really thinking of the fans. Well guess what? I’m happy to wipe ch 9!

So the 6 pm Friday game will be given to Ch9 to replay at 10 pm full of adds ... Ch9 have no interest in the fans of the game ! never have never will .. my question is why is the NRL bending over backwards to pander to the Junior player in the rights deal .. Fox pays double I think !
The NRL will continue to destroy our great game if they continually bend over to a telecaster that’s has driven its own ratings down with lacklustre presentation and out of touch commentary... surely the new era of streaming with corporations that NEED content and willing to pay is the way of the future .
Give Ch9 more content at your peril as that platform is a thing of the past !

Usually I’d call bull on a network”s intentions for a 4 hour delay on a game in 2020, but this is channel 9. Their catch phrase used to be “still the one”. Now it should be “still out of touch”
 
It sounds a lot like the NRL have only just started speaking with Nine.

If so, our sport is being run by a bunch of amateurs that are way out of their depth.
 
@Snake said in [Ch 9 hammers NRL](/post/1142816) said:
@Tiger_Steve said in [Ch 9 hammers NRL](/post/1142737) said:
Ch 9 happy to wipe season. Really thinking of the fans. Well guess what? I’m happy to wipe ch 9!

So the 6 pm Friday game will be given to Ch9 to replay at 10 pm full of adds ... Ch9 have no interest in the fans of the game ! never have never will .. my question is why is the NRL bending over backwards to pander to the Junior player in the rights deal .. Fox pays double I think !
The NRL will continue to destroy our great game if they continually bend over to a telecaster that’s has driven its own ratings down with lacklustre presentation and out of touch commentary... surely the new era of streaming with corporations that NEED content and willing to pay is the way of the future .
Give Ch9 more content at your peril as that platform is a thing of the past !

It sounds like we were needing an advance from 9 to keep our heads above water so 9 were on a position to make demands. Hopefully this loan will erase all that and give us back the whip.
 
@Papacito said in [Ch 9 hammers NRL](/post/1142822) said:
It sounds a lot like the NRL have only just started speaking with Nine.

If so, our sport is being run by a bunch of amateurs that are way out of their depth.

I'd rather they didn't speak to them at all.
 
Maybe the NRL are looking for other sources of funds so they are not reliant on 9 and Fox. I hope they take full control of their own product and develop their own broadcast/streaming facilities.
 
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