Ch 9 hammers NRL

@GNR4LIFE said in [Ch 9 hammers NRL](/post/1141670) said:
@WT2K said in [Ch 9 hammers NRL](/post/1141667) said:
Weedler suggesting nine want an end to simulcast

Never gonna happen with the advent of Kayo

I don’t think 9 is getting a good deal apart from exclusive access to SOO and finals. Fox is pushing hard to get their hands on full NRL rights as that’s how they may achieve spike up in subscriptions. I doubt that the government would allow that .... so I guess that NRL will need to choose between the devil and deep blue see. Either way they probably will suffer a financial and/or broadcasting hit of some form when renegotiations are finalised.
 
Phil Gould lambasting the NRL for poor financial management the greatest case of the POT CALLING THE KETTLE BLACK ever how much money was wasted at PENRIFF in sacking coaches
 
@Elderslie_Tiger said in [Ch 9 hammers NRL](/post/1141713) said:
Phil Gould lambasting the NRL for poor financial management the greatest case of the POT CALLING THE KETTLE BLACK ever how much money was wasted at PENRIFF in sacking coaches

Following company policy. All their radio/print/tv employees all having their turn.
 
Maybe this is all a good thing.

Channel 9 is playing hardball. If this was the 80's or 90's I would be scared.
Now, well people will buy Kayo or whatever and just watch it. While Rugby League's heart is going to be in the suburbs and those TV sets are going to tune in. Kids can subscribe and will be watching on devices.

The sad bit will be the nursing homes that still push footy hard. They won't modernize and their residences won't be able to tune in.

Otherwise happy for our NRL mismanaged dinosaur to say goodbye to another mismanaged dinosaur. If that means the RTS and Val Holmes leave the game, Great.
 
@WT2K said in [Ch 9 hammers NRL](/post/1141667) said:
Weedler suggesting nine want an end to simulcast

100% that is what this is all about as they are losing viewers hand over fist to fox!
 
@hammertime said in [Ch 9 hammers NRL](/post/1141659) said:
in addition to the broadcast deal, the game have had a lot of fines flood in over the last few years. Didn't we give them almost 400k for farah?

Would be interesting if they put a spotlight on the magnitude and timing of these fines. Maybe they were partially covering their own mismanagement.

Fines don't work that way..the NRL Clubs don't pay the NRL..the NRL withhold the fine amount from the grant they give the Club ...yes you can argue that's sort of the same thing..but not really cause obviously the have squandered that money elsewhere..
 
@Tiger-Tragic said in [Ch 9 hammers NRL](/post/1141895) said:
This sums my thoughts up with regard to V'Landys and the NRL. In my opinion, a brilliant piece of writing.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2020/apr/12/sport-in-australia-will-survive-covid-19-but-those-currently-in-charge-might-not

It's not a bad read. Basically saying without money the sport will still survive. I'm not totally against that.

But t's a bit shameful that at the end of the article they ask for donations to keep the guardian going. Happy to see one organisation to go broke but not theirs.
 
I don't know if the NRL are in the position to do this for the rest of 2020 ...but tell 9 to stick their money were the sun doesn't shine and
Tell them it's over for good
 
@Tiger-Tragic said in [Ch 9 hammers NRL](/post/1141895) said:
This sums my thoughts up with regard to V'Landys and the NRL. In my opinion, a brilliant piece of writing.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2020/apr/12/sport-in-australia-will-survive-covid-19-but-those-currently-in-charge-might-not

Was some good points in there. Footy will carry on regardless of who's in charge but it is a near certainty that our code has declined rapidly since Greenberg has been at the wheel- it's pretty much become a farce.
V'Landys mightn't have all the answers and he is one of many scrambling to save their arses (and inflated wages) but Greenberg had RL on the slippery slope BEFORE anyone had the excuse of COVID 19 to blame.
I couldn't care if the NRL folded and some new competition with integrity took its place: would welcome it in fact. As long as WT are playing that's all that matters.
 
@happy_tiger said in [Ch 9 hammers NRL](/post/1141953) said:
I don't know if the NRL are in the position to do this for the rest of 2020 ...but tell 9 to stick their money were the sun doesn't shine and
Tell them it's over for good

Still contracted until the end of 2021 aren't they?
 
@Fade-To-Black said in [Ch 9 hammers NRL](/post/1141971) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Ch 9 hammers NRL](/post/1141953) said:
I don't know if the NRL are in the position to do this for the rest of 2020 ...but tell 9 to stick their money were the sun doesn't shine and
Tell them it's over for good

Still contracted until the end of 2021 aren't they?

Yep. FWIW toddy meeting with Fox today and V'Landys meeting Nine tomorrow.
 
@Tiger-Tragic said in [Ch 9 hammers NRL](/post/1141889) said:
@Fade-To-Black said in [Ch 9 hammers NRL](/post/1141602) said:
@Tiger-Tragic said in [Ch 9 hammers NRL](/post/1141537) said:
@Fade-To-Black said in [Ch 9 hammers NRL](/post/1141508) said:
@Tiger-Tragic said in [Ch 9 hammers NRL](/post/1141187) said:
@gallagher said in [Ch 9 hammers NRL](/post/1141186) said:
@Tiger-Tragic said in [Ch 9 hammers NRL](/post/1141184) said:
The longer this saga goes on, the more likely it will become clear that V'Landys is nothing more than an opportunist whose leadership style of "have a win at any cost" is decidely dangerous in times such as these.

He is the Donald Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon of Australian sports leaders; a man of limited intellience, a huge ego and self-belief who is emboldened by success, as measured by his own metrics.

Well he's kept racing going.

On his own he hasn't. It's not just NSW that is continuing to race at the moment. What about the other leaders in other states?

But, in NSW the feature races on tomorrow have all had to take up to a 50% cut in prizemoney, under V'Landys' leadership. So when he (allegedly) says he will come to an agreement with Nine, I suspect it will be in Nine's benefit, not the NRL's.

In fact, I think Hugh Marks knows V'Landys is a goose who will settle for some sort of "victory" that will stroke his ego and self-belief. The reality, though, will be completely different.

As you may have guessed, I don't rate him at all as a leader. In fact, I think Greenburg has better leadership qualities than V'Landys.

Mate, your last sentence is a HUUUUUGE statement. Greenberg has been decimating and making NRL a laughing stock for years, doesn't learn from his mistakes because he is too arrogant to believe he doesn't know best. He is singlehandedly the worst thing to happen to the NRL since it's inception.
If he was still making the decisions the game probably would of folded in the space of a few weeks.

Oh ok. I'm happy to be convinced otherwise. List all the errors and instances of mismanagement that can be directly attributed to him please.

This might take a while

Giving Inglis a character reference for his drink driving/speeding offences.
Giving Cameron Smith's wife a diamond ring.......for what exactly? Not to mention Cammy's testimonial (salary-cap exempt) 3 years (or maybe more) before he actually racks off from the game.
Sam Burgess internet sexting thing, no punishment. Yet Adam Elliott from Bulldogs gets harshly punished for exactly the same act, one over the internet, one not.
John Sutton and Luke Burgess arrested in USA at the end of 2014, Souths kept it quiet, no punishment.
The whole Matt Lodge balls-up, he should never have been allowed back into the NRL, he served zero punishment.
David Fifita: all good apparently apart from being detained overseas.

He has overseen an absolute dogs-breakfast, there is probably another dozen or so instances that don't immediately spring to mind.
How he was promoted to the NRL's top job after his mismanagement of the Bulldogs whilst he was in charge (Ben Barba bashing his partner, complete with photographic evidence of injuries), (him being aware of Ryan Tandy's gambling addiction and therefore approving of advance payment of Tandy's contract to settle SP bookie gambling debts).
He is as shonky as administrators get. Cannot wait to see the back of the maggot.

Well, I said I was happy to be convinced! And, it seems, if most of that is directly attributable to Todd Greenberg, then, I'm wrong.

It doesn't deflect from my original post though, that the leadership model of V'Landys is based on having a "win" to feed his own ego. There is nothing genuine about him caring for others or having the interests of others at heart. Others, in this case, the rest of society should this whole NRL return go horribly wrong, don't matter to him.

Just like that idiot that wrote the article in the Guardian - you are doing a lot of surmising.

How do you know he doesn't have the games best interests at heart, that he is trying to overcome Toddy's incompetence as well get as much money for the game as possible to help Country and Junior League to survive, that he doesn't have the players best interests at heart and wouldn't agree to the game returning unless it was safe to do so?

You don't! You are surmising he doesn't!

You say, it doesn't matter to him, how do you know? You don't! You are surmising.

Just hang the man on the feeling YOU know what he feels, bugger the fact that YOU may be hanging a man that has done nothing wrong.

He may not have the game at heart, but you or I don't know that.
 
@Tiger-Tragic said in [Ch 9 hammers NRL](/post/1141895) said:
This sums my thoughts up with regard to V'Landys and the NRL. In my opinion, a brilliant piece of writing.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2020/apr/12/sport-in-australia-will-survive-covid-19-but-those-currently-in-charge-might-not

Do not think this article has anything to offer at all - by the time I got to the end (quite a chore) I was really angry.

I think this idiot has an agenda against sport and Rugby League in particular.
 
@Strongee said in [Ch 9 hammers NRL](/post/1141628) said:
@Jay said in [Ch 9 hammers NRL](/post/1141573) said:
If NRL is on while NSW folk are being fined for eating a kebab by themself I won't be able to by it tbh. I won't even watch it. Too much entitlement that they should play by other rules. I dont expect anyone else to have my opinion and I'm happy for others to enjoy the sport. That's just part of my view 🙂

This is a ludicrous take . It’s not on for 7 weeks . We were all gonna die just 7 days ago . The infection rate then was 22% and is now just above 1%. If the NRL goes into quarantine then isolated as a game , what is the difference between that , and isolating at home with your family ?
People being panic merchants fail to see how much sport is ingrained in the fabric of society .
The effect to the mental state of the population can’t be overstated .
It your right some bloke hetting pinned for eating a kebab in the worst affected area TODAY, is exactly the same as a whole company isolating ina regional location , then picking up their business , whilst broadcasting that ... in 7 weeks time .

I'd rather have a beer with my mates and play a game of sport with them now than watch a bunch of dudes getting paid heaps when everyone else has to be 2m apart and are losing their jobs. I don't care about football at all currently. Wait till the distancing rules are over then start it. And yes, the kebab dude being fined was nonsense lol. By himself. If he was doing pushups on the bench he'd be right. I was never trying to push my opinion man. Sports good I get it. I was kinda hoping Khabib and Ferguson would happen. But it makes more sense to me it isn't till this is over. Peace to you mate ??
 
@Russell said in [Ch 9 hammers NRL](/post/1142031) said:
@Tiger-Tragic said in [Ch 9 hammers NRL](/post/1141895) said:
This sums my thoughts up with regard to V'Landys and the NRL. In my opinion, a brilliant piece of writing.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2020/apr/12/sport-in-australia-will-survive-covid-19-but-those-currently-in-charge-might-not

Do not think this article has anything to offer at all - by the time I got to the end (quite a chore) I was really angry.

I think this idiot has an agenda against sport and Rugby League in particular.

The Guardian is definitely not the place to go for NRL fans.
 
@Tiger_Steve said in [Ch 9 hammers NRL](/post/1141554) said:
@Tiger-Tragic said in [Ch 9 hammers NRL](/post/1141537) said:
@Fade-To-Black said in [Ch 9 hammers NRL](/post/1141508) said:
@Tiger-Tragic said in [Ch 9 hammers NRL](/post/1141187) said:
@gallagher said in [Ch 9 hammers NRL](/post/1141186) said:
@Tiger-Tragic said in [Ch 9 hammers NRL](/post/1141184) said:
The longer this saga goes on, the more likely it will become clear that V'Landys is nothing more than an opportunist whose leadership style of "have a win at any cost" is decidely dangerous in times such as these.

He is the Donald Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon of Australian sports leaders; a man of limited intellience, a huge ego and self-belief who is emboldened by success, as measured by his own metrics.

Well he's kept racing going.

On his own he hasn't. It's not just NSW that is continuing to race at the moment. What about the other leaders in other states?

But, in NSW the feature races on tomorrow have all had to take up to a 50% cut in prizemoney, under V'Landys' leadership. So when he (allegedly) says he will come to an agreement with Nine, I suspect it will be in Nine's benefit, not the NRL's.

In fact, I think Hugh Marks knows V'Landys is a goose who will settle for some sort of "victory" that will stroke his ego and self-belief. The reality, though, will be completely different.

As you may have guessed, I don't rate him at all as a leader. In fact, I think Greenburg has better leadership qualities than V'Landys.

Mate, your last sentence is a HUUUUUGE statement. Greenberg has been decimating and making NRL a laughing stock for years, doesn't learn from his mistakes because he is too arrogant to believe he doesn't know best. He is singlehandedly the worst thing to happen to the NRL since it's inception.
If he was still making the decisions the game probably would of folded in the space of a few weeks.

Oh ok. I'm happy to be convinced otherwise. List all the errors and instances of mismanagement that can be directly attributed to him please.

Referees bunker that has led to no identifiable improvement in officiating


Massive inconsistencies between penalties of clubs & players depending on profile
 
@Jay said in [Ch 9 hammers NRL](/post/1141573) said:
If NRL is on while NSW folk are being fined for eating a kebab by themself I won't be able to by it tbh. I won't even watch it. Too much entitlement that they should play by other rules. I dont expect anyone else to have my opinion and I'm happy for others to enjoy the sport. That's just part of my view 🙂


Im with ya mate
 
@crazycat said in [Ch 9 hammers NRL](/post/1141723) said:
Maybe this is all a good thing.

Channel 9 is playing hardball. If this was the 80's or 90's I would be scared.
Now, well people will buy Kayo or whatever and just watch it. While Rugby League's heart is going to be in the suburbs and those TV sets are going to tune in. Kids can subscribe and will be watching on devices.

The sad bit will be the nursing homes that still push footy hard. They won't modernize and their residences won't be able to tune in.

Otherwise happy for our NRL mismanaged dinosaur to say goodbye to another mismanaged dinosaur. If that means the RTS and Val Holmes leave the game, Great.


I know you are not but there is nothing to be scared of. The game will survive. If Nine go, there will be someone else to take up the coverage. It might be for less money but you know what? That is what it will be worth. Too much rubbish over the years about the "value of the product", players should be getting more based on international standards etc etc etc. Its all BS and the players will get paid what is left based on the market.

Rugby League for way too many years has had an overinflated opinion of its own importance and this correction hopefully places some reality in the organisation.

Oh and hopefully gets rid of Greenberg.
 
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