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[Byron_Bay_Fan]

In vain I was trying to **educate** you - pretty hopeless I know. lol. Lets talk about the Three Stooges

Educate? Really? With pearls like this?

Communism and socialism have been usually being brought in under extreme circumstances and under external and internal threats so is hard to **objectively their long term longevity**.

Idiotize might be more accurate than educate.

Using the Three Stooges as a template I agree - but that is about the most intelligent I could think of on Ch 10\. I checked out Ch 10 the other day when this thread began and there was a Yankee Jesus Freak holding court - at least the Stooges knew they were idiots.

 

[PD77]

I am still trying to work out if you are a communist, socialist or somewhere in between???

I never think about it. When in the environmental movement in mid seventies the socialist came in trying to take over the joint. The Aussie commos under Jack Mundy were genuine green-inclined.

Capitalism (private at least) crumbles under an decreasing economy, due to earth's finite resources including air production must eventually decrease and the system collapse so chaos or evolution into ???

Communism and socialism have been usually being brought in under extreme circumstances and under external and internal threats so is hard to objectively their long term longevity. But their possession of socially just morals and if democratically applied they could provide universally long term survival, peace and sustainability.

As the chance of achieving either of these in Oz in the short term is impossible I don't even consider. If we don't control human population worldwide and consumerism there will always massive misery, wars, environmental degradation and exploitation.

The only possible solution that can be introduced in the long term could be democratic socialism but only after another few generations of great upheaval. There are only about 50,000 books on it so I keep quiet.

Sorry I asked. :laughing: Let's talk about Neighbours.

In vain I was trying to educate you - pretty hopeless I know. lol. Lets talk about the Three Stooges

Ahhhh, there it is. That sanctimonious, lefty superiority complex. Unfortunately in your bid to make yourself seem intelligent you come across as yet another leftist stooge who has lost touch with reality.

Perhaps you should poke your own eyes unless you can find another stooge to do it for you.

 

[Byron_Bay_Fan]

I never think about it. When in the environmental movement in mid seventies the socialist came in trying to take over the joint. The Aussie commos under Jack Mundy were genuine green-inclined.

Capitalism (private at least) crumbles under an decreasing economy, due to earth's finite resources including air production must eventually decrease and the system collapse so chaos or evolution into ???

Communism and socialism have been usually being brought in under extreme circumstances and under external and internal threats so is hard to objectively their long term longevity. But their possession of socially just morals and if democratically applied they could provide universally long term survival, peace and sustainability.

As the chance of achieving either of these in Oz in the short term is impossible I don't even consider. If we don't control human population worldwide and consumerism there will always massive misery, wars, environmental degradation and exploitation.

The only possible solution that can be introduced in the long term could be democratic socialism but only after another few generations of great upheaval. There are only about 50,000 books on it so I keep quiet.

Sorry I asked. :laughing: Let's talk about Neighbours.

In vain I was trying to educate you - pretty hopeless I know. lol. Lets talk about the Three Stooges

Ahhhh, there it is. That sanctimonious, lefty superiority complex. Unfortunately in your bid to make yourself seem intelligent you come across as yet another leftist stooge who has lost touch with reality.

Perhaps you should poke your own eyes unless you can find another stooge to do it for you.

My bro-in-law is anti-left fanatic but also a scientific expert and he agrees completely with me re pollution and green house effect. Most wars are due to over population, poverty, lack of resources and inequality though often masked by religious and ethnic differences.

The scientific community view coincides with my view on state of the biosphere. It is not a class issue but becomes one because the more wealthy can protect themselves better from the ravages of a destroyed environment. As well the more wealthy benefit more by keeping the status quo.

We need a unifying and just system of government so we don't go down the gurgle hole together. You can attempt to invent a new system to solve Earth's problems but then so can everyone else and we get nowhere. The progressive Europeans seem to have it worked out with democratic socialistic policies as a half way bridge.

So try and resist from labelling people and advance some alternative policies so serious discussion can take place.

 

[PD77]

Sorry I asked. :laughing: Let's talk about Neighbours.

In vain I was trying to educate you - pretty hopeless I know. lol. Lets talk about the Three Stooges

Ahhhh, there it is. That sanctimonious, lefty superiority complex. Unfortunately in your bid to make yourself seem intelligent you come across as yet another leftist stooge who has lost touch with reality.

Perhaps you should poke your own eyes unless you can find another stooge to do it for you.

My bro-in-law is anti-left fanatic but also a scientific expert and he agrees completely with me re pollution and green house effect. Most wars are due to over population, poverty, lack of resources and inequality though often masked by religious and ethnic differences.

The scientific community view coincides with my view on state of the biosphere. It is not a class issue but becomes one because the more wealthy can protect themselves better from the ravages of a destroyed environment. As well the more wealthy benefit more by keeping the status quo.

We need a unifying and just system of government so we don't go down the gurgle hole together. You can attempt to invent a new system to solve Earth's problems but then so can everyone else and we get nowhere. The progressive Europeans seem to have it worked out with democratic socialistic policies as a half way bridge.

So try and resist from labelling people and advance some alternative policies so serious discussion can take place.

"The progressive Europeans seem to have it worked out with democratic socialistic policies as a half way bridge."

That's Hilarious. :laughing:

Scientific expert? That's a broad description.

BBF, please start a politics thread (as opposed to my politics thread in disguise) and I'll be right there with you, writing long winded, nonsensical garbage. I live for it. Let's start with how to solve Australia's energy crisis. Hint: It's not wind farms.

See you there!

 

[Tim Sheens]

In vain I was trying to educate you - pretty hopeless I know. lol. Lets talk about the Three Stooges

Ahhhh, there it is. That sanctimonious, lefty superiority complex. Unfortunately in your bid to make yourself seem intelligent you come across as yet another leftist stooge who has lost touch with reality.

Perhaps you should poke your own eyes unless you can find another stooge to do it for you.

My bro-in-law is anti-left fanatic but also a scientific expert and he agrees completely with me re pollution and green house effect. Most wars are due to over population, poverty, lack of resources and inequality though often masked by religious and ethnic differences.

The scientific community view coincides with my view on state of the biosphere. It is not a class issue but becomes one because the more wealthy can protect themselves better from the ravages of a destroyed environment. As well the more wealthy benefit more by keeping the status quo.

We need a unifying and just system of government so we don't go down the gurgle hole together. You can attempt to invent a new system to solve Earth's problems but then so can everyone else and we get nowhere. The progressive Europeans seem to have it worked out with democratic socialistic policies as a half way bridge.

So try and resist from labelling people and advance some alternative policies so serious discussion can take place.

"The progressive Europeans seem to have it worked out with democratic socialistic policies as a half way bridge."

That's Hilarious. :laughing:

Scientific expert? That's a broad description.

BBF, please start a politics thread (as opposed to my politics thread in disguise) and I'll be right there with you, writing long winded, nonsensical garbage. I live for it. Let's start with how to solve Australia's energy crisis. Hint: It's not wind farms.

See you there!

Only need to watch the Bolt report for all the answers and maybe he could get a run on the ten network to share his pearls of wisdom on FTA.

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

Bolt had a run on the Ten Network, they hooked his show.

 

[Tim Sheens]

Bolt had a run on the Ten Network, they hooked his show.

Yeah, knew he was on one of them, but apart from the footy or F1 that were not on Foxtel, have not watched the commercial networks for many moons.

 

[Byron_Bay_Fan]

In vain I was trying to educate you - pretty hopeless I know. lol. Lets talk about the Three Stooges

Ahhhh, there it is. That sanctimonious, lefty superiority complex. Unfortunately in your bid to make yourself seem intelligent you come across as yet another leftist stooge who has lost touch with reality.

Perhaps you should poke your own eyes unless you can find another stooge to do it for you.

My bro-in-law is anti-left fanatic but also a scientific expert and he agrees completely with me re pollution and green house effect. Most wars are due to over population, poverty, lack of resources and inequality though often masked by religious and ethnic differences.

The scientific community view coincides with my view on state of the biosphere. It is not a class issue but becomes one because the more wealthy can protect themselves better from the ravages of a destroyed environment. As well the more wealthy benefit more by keeping the status quo.

We need a unifying and just system of government so we don't go down the gurgle hole together. You can attempt to invent a new system to solve Earth's problems but then so can everyone else and we get nowhere. The progressive Europeans seem to have it worked out with democratic socialistic policies as a half way bridge.

So try and resist from labelling people and advance some alternative policies so serious discussion can take place.

"The progressive Europeans seem to have it worked out with democratic socialistic policies as a half way bridge."

That's Hilarious. :laughing:

Scientific expert? That's a broad description.

BBF, please start a politics thread (as opposed to my politics thread in disguise) and I'll be right there with you, writing long winded, nonsensical garbage. I live for it. Let's start with how to solve Australia's energy crisis. Hint: It's not wind farms.

See you there!

I am not sure if management want a political thread created by myself. You create one and I will join in.

 

[PD77]

Ahhhh, there it is. That sanctimonious, lefty superiority complex. Unfortunately in your bid to make yourself seem intelligent you come across as yet another leftist stooge who has lost touch with reality.

Perhaps you should poke your own eyes unless you can find another stooge to do it for you.

My bro-in-law is anti-left fanatic but also a scientific expert and he agrees completely with me re pollution and green house effect. Most wars are due to over population, poverty, lack of resources and inequality though often masked by religious and ethnic differences.

The scientific community view coincides with my view on state of the biosphere. It is not a class issue but becomes one because the more wealthy can protect themselves better from the ravages of a destroyed environment. As well the more wealthy benefit more by keeping the status quo.

We need a unifying and just system of government so we don't go down the gurgle hole together. You can attempt to invent a new system to solve Earth's problems but then so can everyone else and we get nowhere. The progressive Europeans seem to have it worked out with democratic socialistic policies as a half way bridge.

So try and resist from labelling people and advance some alternative policies so serious discussion can take place.

"The progressive Europeans seem to have it worked out with democratic socialistic policies as a half way bridge."

That's Hilarious. :laughing:

Scientific expert? That's a broad description.

BBF, please start a politics thread (as opposed to my politics thread in disguise) and I'll be right there with you, writing long winded, nonsensical garbage. I live for it. Let's start with how to solve Australia's energy crisis. Hint: It's not wind farms.

See you there!

I am not sure if management want a political thread created by myself. You create one and I will join in.

:laughing:

Good point. You are infamous right?

 

[Byron_Bay_Fan]

My bro-in-law is anti-left fanatic but also a scientific expert and he agrees completely with me re pollution and green house effect. Most wars are due to over population, poverty, lack of resources and inequality though often masked by religious and ethnic differences.

The scientific community view coincides with my view on state of the biosphere. It is not a class issue but becomes one because the more wealthy can protect themselves better from the ravages of a destroyed environment. As well the more wealthy benefit more by keeping the status quo.

We need a unifying and just system of government so we don't go down the gurgle hole together. You can attempt to invent a new system to solve Earth's problems but then so can everyone else and we get nowhere. The progressive Europeans seem to have it worked out with democratic socialistic policies as a half way bridge.

So try and resist from labelling people and advance some alternative policies so serious discussion can take place.

"The progressive Europeans seem to have it worked out with democratic socialistic policies as a half way bridge."

That's Hilarious. :laughing:

Scientific expert? That's a broad description.

BBF, please start a politics thread (as opposed to my politics thread in disguise) and I'll be right there with you, writing long winded, nonsensical garbage. I live for it. Let's start with how to solve Australia's energy crisis. Hint: It's not wind farms.

See you there!

I am not sure if management want a political thread created by myself. You create one and I will join in.

:laughing:

Good point. You are infamous right?

If in the same vein as Robbie as being intense and persistent I will wear it with pride. On this site the footie is more important than the politics and there are already a few generations of environmental political youngens taking my place so I don't mind taking a back seat. Presently I am stuck on my backside due to a few injuries but soon I will not have so much free time so leave at your discretion. But remember what Hockey said about those windfarms they are so ugly. If he did not have his gut stapled up he would be more ugly.

 

[stryker]

Byron talking about a one world government again?

 

[Byron_Bay_Fan]

Byron talking about a one world government again?

I can't remember mentioning one world govt the first time but seems you are blackmailing me before I even have the gloves on. Now IF the great majority of each and every country agreed to one world govt would you agree if should it be brought in? Or would you be a protestor like myself?

It is after major disasters that great steps are taken in an attempt to prevent a re-occurrence. Hence we have the United Nations after about 80 million were killed in WW2 plus nuke weapons joined the arsenal. If in the very long term it seems that only one world govt is the only means of procuring justice and peace then I am not against it. Some people have already made their minds up both ways.

In the very long term I am hoping for greatly depopulating the planet that would take a lot of pressure off everything, as well disbarment of most weapons when safeguards can be put in place and mass psychology changes.

 

[stryker]

Why do you people think that thousands of years of culture should be dismissed so we can all live together under one set of laws, rules, ideaologies etc…? The world is perfectly fine being divided by borders. We are all very different from each other and are happy to do our own things. National sovereignty should not be disrupted so that snowflake elitists born into extreme priveldge can feel good about themselves. The EU and NATO are jokes as is that pussy organisation the UN.

As for depopulation...this is the most evil focus of any NWO thusly sought so that those at the top have greater control and wealth. Totalitarianism will never win out. Itll probably unite the world's terrorist organisations which those in favour of one world leadership created in the first place.

 

[Byron_Bay_Fan]

Thanks mr stryker I will handle this one in chewable pieces.
1.
Why do you people think that thousands of years of culture should be dismissed so we can all live together under one set of laws, rules, ideaologies etc…?

When it is for the greater good and is mutually beneficial different types of people will make many comprises and changes. Look at modern day OZ - about 150 different types of migrants, the meat pie is becoming redundant to kebabs and chicken chow min. If the culture can be shown to be holding civilisation back then often it will be made redundant - after trials and tribulations. Gay marriage is just around the corner it seems and that is hostile to almost every culture. Nothing about human life stays the same - always evolving. How are you different from Ayatollah Khomeini who even banned chess at one stage and would be odds on to ban rugby league?

Next lesson later. bye

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

Why do you people think that thousands of years of culture should be dismissed so we can all live together under one set of laws, rules, ideaologies etc…? The world is perfectly fine being divided by borders. We are all very different from each other and are happy to do our own things. National sovereignty should not be disrupted so that snowflake elitists born into extreme priveldge can feel good about themselves. The EU and NATO are jokes as is that pussy organisation the UN.

As for depopulation...this is the most evil focus of any NWO thusly sought so that those at the top have greater control and wealth. Totalitarianism will never win out. Itll probably unite the world's terrorist organisations which those in favour of one world leadership created in the first place.

I don't know about depopulation. Bill Burr had some great ideas on that.

 

[stryker]

Thanks mr stryker I will handle this one in chewable pieces.
1.
Why do you people think that thousands of years of culture should be dismissed so we can all live together under one set of laws, rules, ideaologies etc…?

When it is for the greater good and is mutually beneficial different types of people will make many comprises and changes. Look at modern day OZ - about 150 different types of migrants, the meat pie is becoming redundant to kebabs and chicken chow min. If the culture can be shown to be holding civilisation back then often it will be made redundant - after trials and tribulations. Gay marriage is just around the corner it seems and that is hostile to almost every culture. Nothing about human life stays the same - always evolving. How are you different from Ayatollah Khomeini who even banned chess at one stage and would be odds on to ban rugby league?

Next lesson later. bye

What lesson? You havent said anything LMAO and why cant you fully comment in one go? Stop running off to your socialist playbook and just tell us what you think!
Stand on your own feet and be a man.
Greater good? Commie answer 101.

 

[Geo]

I think the greater good would be served if Byron kept running and never came back…

 

[NT_Tiger]

Have I missed something?

 

[Byron_Bay_Fan]

Thanks mr stryker I will handle this one in chewable pieces.
1.
Why do you people think that thousands of years of culture should be dismissed so we can all live together under one set of laws, rules, ideaologies etc…?

When it is for the greater good and is mutually beneficial different types of people will make many comprises and changes. Look at modern day OZ - about 150 different types of migrants, the meat pie is becoming redundant to kebabs and chicken chow min. If the culture can be shown to be holding civilisation back then often it will be made redundant - after trials and tribulations. Gay marriage is just around the corner it seems and that is hostile to almost every culture. Nothing about human life stays the same - always evolving. How are you different from Ayatollah Khomeini who even banned chess at one stage and would be odds on to ban rugby league?

Next lesson later. bye

What lesson? You havent said anything LMAO and why cant you fully comment in one go? Stop running off to your socialist playbook and just tell us what you think!
Stand on your own feet and be a man.
Greater good? Commie answer 101.

I don't have a socialist handbook. Socialism could be covered in Bertrand Russell's History of Western Philosophy and Anton Flew's Dictionary of Philosophy both I do possess currently gathering dust.

Both major parties in Australia claim to govern for the greater good and they are not considered to be commo.

No one is saying for culture to be dismissed but it will change (evolve) over time. That international whaling commission (whatever is called) banned commercial whaling for the Japanese - so they claimed their whaling was scientific. If Japan had the means and will it could ignore international evolving conservationism and wipe out the species. Would that be fair to the remaining of world who have got to appreciate and value whales as amazing important creatures? Struth stryker, there would be no whales left to swallow Jonah for 3 days! The Hebrews would then be whinging.

Anti-semitism could be said to be the culture of Europe for a thousand years - resulting in the Holocaust, it became a national creed in Nazi Germany. After WW2 the world decided that anti-semitism was no longer halal - 70 years later that decision is still respected. Do you think the Germans should allow outside forces to determine what is allowable in their culture?

It is due to the relatively recent mechanised or industrialised means of killing that philosophy/culture/ethics have to change. The machine gun and nerve gas of WW1, nuke weapons of WW2, long line fishing, "warship" whaling boats - have all proved too destructive to all creatures of the biosphere.

As Einstein said in May 1946, “The unleashed power of the atom has changed everything save our modes of thinking, and thus we drift toward unparalleled catastrophe.”.

We still have some atomic particles to digest with this first mouthful.

 

[stryker]

You can be happy to be a slave. I am not.

If a totalitarian government says whales are rubbish creatures and must be destroyed…guess what happens? If a totalitarian ruler says "Adolf had it right all along" guess what happens? If these same law makers decree that only dark skinned people are required to work...guess what?

Its a moronic idea.