Chopping block

[sleeve]

Realistically we can change our team but it won't change much for this year, needs to be built towards the future.

Bench Tamou and Ofahengaue, start Seyfarth and Stefano, bring Tuki Simpkins in for Amone, Simpkin on the bench to give Liddle a rest, bring in Tuilagi and drop Talau either for Doueihi or someone else.

Also make Doueihi captain, he's the only bloke who cares and talks a lot on the field. Brooks is too quiet and Tamou is playing less and less minutes

I really don't want to bag Brooks too much because he cops it bad. However, it really sucks he isn't leadership/captain material. Ennis brought up a good point in that Tamau is our captain and sitting on the bench for at least half the game, which hurts when we are against the ropes. Brooks and Liddle are both out there for 80 but aren't captain material. We need our captain out there for the whole game atm, but there's no logical choice other than Douehi, but he's still a couple of years off being that true leader. We need a strong leadership group which we don't have and thats a huge disadvantage in today's game.

I can't place much blame at the feet of Brooks for last night.

I'm not blaming Brooks for last night at all. Im more speaking about captainsy and leadership. I wish Brooks had the ability to lead this team around and pull us out of the holes we get ourselves into.

Tell me why this Brooks and leadership crap appears.
C Smith at Storm was a hooker, captain and leader. Now Munster who is 5/8. plus their spine with Billy and now Paps'. Manly has DCE ,plus Turbo, plus Jake T. Panthers have Cleary, LUI, Edwards and a cast of thousands, Easts have Teddy who is a FULLBACK, Souths leader is a 5/8, and has LM. Reynolds and another cast of thousands .
Brooks has Mbye, Laurie, and Liddle as his spine and backs with the speed of a snail.

THE POINT BEING THE HALF IS SELDOM THE LEADER.

 

[sleeve]

Realistically we can change our team but it won't change much for this year, needs to be built towards the future.

Bench Tamou and Ofahengaue, start Seyfarth and Stefano, bring Tuki Simpkins in for Amone, Simpkin on the bench to give Liddle a rest, bring in Tuilagi and drop Talau either for Doueihi or someone else.

Also make Doueihi captain, he's the only bloke who cares and talks a lot on the field. Brooks is too quiet and Tamou is playing less and less minutes

I really don't want to bag Brooks too much because he cops it bad. However, it really sucks he isn't leadership/captain material. Ennis brought up a good point in that Tamau is our captain and sitting on the bench for at least half the game, which hurts when we are against the ropes. Brooks and Liddle are both out there for 80 but aren't captain material. We need our captain out there for the whole game atm, but there's no logical choice other than Douehi, but he's still a couple of years off being that true leader. We need a strong leadership group which we don't have and thats a huge disadvantage in today's game.

I can't place much blame at the feet of Brooks for last night.



Brooks was one of the few who could say he tried all through the game

He looked fired up in those post game talks too....

Staring at the ground, falling asleep.

He may have tried his best, but is his best good enough?
I'd say no.

He's had his chance and he, like Madge.. has shown that they haven't got it.

Luke Brooks : report to the Chopping block.


I disagree

Can't play AD at 6 cos he is a competitor and it throws Brooks off.
We move AD to centre to allow Brooks more control...

How long are we going to baby this kid?
Hastings said he's a fan of Douihei.

Two power player halves that won't be rattled by the other.
Hastings will feed off that energy that Douihei is shining.

We need to walk away from some of the core rott that has been at this club for too long.

And forum favz, Brooks, Nofo and Mbye are at that core.

Hastings is not the answer.

Not many decent halves around.

Hastings has been away from the NRL for some time...
One could say he's a different player now.
Wait and see....

If he's better than Brooks which I expect him to be, that's an upgrade.
And there's your answer.

I hope Hastings' arrogance can be thr positive thing we need to fire up. Brooks like a manikin. Does his facial expression even change. Youd have no idea if he's pissed off or happy.

Brooks has no fire in his belly. Similalr to nearly all players who played last night with exception of Seyfarth. They have lost inspiration and will to win or at least try.

Seyfarth is so involved and plays with real desire...
You know who else does?
Douihei.

They are from the same ilk and came through together with Papz and Suli.

We let the wrong ones go as we all know...
Same old story.

But it's good to see our juniors show some heart at least.


3 out of 17, what happened to the other14 ?
And if Doeihie learnt to tackle ,pass the ball occasionally and put on 5yds of speed he may eventually earn the overated tag he has. As for Brooks, if half the side could tackle as hard as he does, we would not be losing by 50 points.

 

[tony soprano]

Love that the OP mentioned Liddle, the WTF’s favourite re-signing!

I can’t believe how much the bloke regressed one step forward and two back

9 still an issue.

 

[Guest]

If anyone saw Tamou's interview...he basically said players lost focus in camp and we failed to address any of the defensive issues from the Parra game. He also said players picked at each other once we started to get hammered.

He also said "I love Madge............" but then criticised the whole week.

I.e. he knows the coach is not up to it.

The aftershow after it was even better, talking about how Madge goes on about defensive fortitude yet tries to recruit players like TPJ when we should be throwing the house at Finucane. Also highlighted how the Tigers lacked leadership showing the dressing room after the game with only Mbye talking.

I hope Mbye was apologising to the playing group for letting them all down.
That's all he should've had to say.

 

[Guest]

Mbye reminds me of myself 30+ years ago when I worked for Telecom.
I did nothing all week but we had a weekly meeting to tell the boss what we had achieved during the week.
I was a star at talking myself up and the boss thought I was great.
Mbye belongs at Telstra.

 

[Ultimate Warrior]

If I was Maguire, I would have a massive sword in the dressing room and call it Frostmourne. Upon someone playing lame, I would be grabbing the sword, looking at them and saying “Frostmourne hungers”!

That will whip them in to shape.

Yes, handing a known lunatic sharp objects will remedy the situation. It did paint a humorous picture in my head though.

Frostmourne hungers!

 

[Tcat]

Realistically we can change our team but it won't change much for this year, needs to be built towards the future.

Bench Tamou and Ofahengaue, start Seyfarth and Stefano, bring Tuki Simpkins in for Amone, Simpkin on the bench to give Liddle a rest, bring in Tuilagi and drop Talau either for Doueihi or someone else.

Also make Doueihi captain, he's the only bloke who cares and talks a lot on the field. Brooks is too quiet and Tamou is playing less and less minutes

I really don't want to bag Brooks too much because he cops it bad. However, it really sucks he isn't leadership/captain material. Ennis brought up a good point in that Tamau is our captain and sitting on the bench for at least half the game, which hurts when we are against the ropes. Brooks and Liddle are both out there for 80 but aren't captain material. We need our captain out there for the whole game atm, but there's no logical choice other than Douehi, but he's still a couple of years off being that true leader. We need a strong leadership group which we don't have and thats a huge disadvantage in today's game.

I can't place much blame at the feet of Brooks for last night.

I'm not blaming Brooks for last night at all. Im more speaking about captainsy and leadership. I wish Brooks had the ability to lead this team around and pull us out of the holes we get ourselves into.

Tell me why this Brooks and leadership crap appears.
C Smith at Storm was a hooker, captain and leader. Now Munster who is 5/8. plus their spine with Billy and now Paps'. Manly has DCE ,plus Turbo, plus Jake T. Panthers have Cleary, LUI, Edwards and a cast of thousands, Easts have Teddy who is a FULLBACK, Souths leader is a 5/8, and has LM. Reynolds and another cast of thousands .
Brooks has Mbye, Laurie, and Liddle as his spine and backs with the speed of a snail.

THE POINT BEING THE HALF IS SELDOM THE LEADER.

Sorry mate, not really sure what you mean about 'why the Brooks and leadership crap appears.'

My point is that I wished Brooks was a capable captain. Reason being that he can challenge the refs for example when things don't go our way or rev the team up at every chance because he's on the field for the 80 and in the mix for everything due to his position on the field. All the players you listed are on the field for the 80 and have a certain level of arrogance and confidence. Our captain is on the field for 30 and Mbye is clearly no captain or leader when he's played the role. We desperately need an assertive captain with support around him to lead us to victory. We have nothing like this at WTs.

 

[BAGNF05]

Talau
Liddle
Tamou
Jet
Pascoe
Luciano is one of my fave players but he's on thin ice for me lately


We need dockar-clay in the side asap

We need toughers, stronger, faster forwards

Docker Clay hasn't even played a first grade game ever

He has in Super league, but not NRL

Honestly what else would U suggest? Bring him in for Liddle and our attack would be very different

People still more concerned about our attack on here ?

 

[mike]

Mbye reminds me of myself 30+ years ago when I worked for Telecom.
I did nothing all week but we had a weekly meeting to tell the boss what we had achieved during the week.
I was a star at talking myself up and the boss thought I was great.
Mbye belongs at Telstra.

Nailed him to a tee.

 

[Tcat]

Mbye reminds me of myself 30+ years ago when I worked for Telecom.
I did nothing all week but we had a weekly meeting to tell the boss what we had achieved during the week.
I was a star at talking myself up and the boss thought I was great.
Mbye belongs at Telstra.

More like Optus. Works ok every now and then but mostly crap.