Chris lawrence

@jadtiger said:
@stevetiger said:
Is this official ? I think he is going really well in the backrow and I'd like to keep him on a reduced contract.

the only problem with that is he is on top money next year and is using up the cap space of 2 good backrowers.If he is here next year we have to pay him his inflated contract and we cant reduce what he gets in 2016

We have to pay him that money next year but maybe its worth it. Its the next contract that has to be paid at market rates.
 
Why do people want to renege on a contract that the WT and Rowdy signed. Trying to ship him off is a low act if you ask me. Mind you, he would have to agree.

I know the reasons why it is suggested. Apart from the fact he is a fantastic club man, why would he agree to that?

He is playing well in the back row and getting better - the club has to accept the consequences of their actions. I say it should not even be thought of; does this club have honour or not!

If they have to let Lovett and others go because they are unsigned and we still need space, then so be it. I am against not honouring contracts, it is not a good look for the club. I know others do it - that does not mean we have to lower ourselves to their level.

We made our bed - now we have to lie in it imo.
 
@Swordy said:
Might be earning noted than his worth now, but has had a few years under valued too. Maybe wasnt his best but that's a chance you take.

I hope he stays on a cheaper deal to be honest.

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100% agree

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There have been rumors that he'd be earning in excess of 650k next yr, so it wouldn't be a surprise if they were shopping him around.
 
This reduced salary talk is nonsense, the reason Chris is on so much next year is his contract was structured in such a way that he was being underpaid for the 1st few years of his contract with that to be made up in the final years. He should not accept anything that puts him into a poorer position financially.

If I was running the club and the rumoured $650K for next season is true, I'd renegoiate with Chris and see if he would be willing to accept a contract extension, that starts next season, for 3 years at $450K. He may accept a contract structured this way as it ensures him a guaranteed 1.35 million instead of $650K.
 
@cochise said:
This reduced salary talk is nonsense, the reason Chris is on so much next year is his contract was structured in such a way that he was being underpaid for the 1st few years of his contract with that to be made up in the final years. He should not accept anything that puts him into a poorer position financially.

If I was running the club and the rumoured $650K for next season is true, I'd renegoiate with Chris and see if he would be willing to accept a contract extension, that starts next season, for 3 years at $450K. He may accept a contract structured this way as it ensures him a guaranteed 1.35 million instead of $650K.

I agree ,I think we should keep him, even on $650k, he has done the years on less which no-one complained about
 
@rex2ce said:
@cochise said:
This reduced salary talk is nonsense, the reason Chris is on so much next year is his contract was structured in such a way that he was being underpaid for the 1st few years of his contract with that to be made up in the final years. He should not accept anything that puts him into a poorer position financially.

If I was running the club and the rumoured $650K for next season is true, I'd renegoiate with Chris and see if he would be willing to accept a contract extension, that starts next season, for 3 years at $450K. He may accept a contract structured this way as it ensures him a guaranteed 1.35 million instead of $650K.

I agree ,I think we should keep him, even on $650k, he has done the years on less which no-one complained about

There is no way we should be offloading Chris, even at $650K, he has earnt that money. I would however talk to him and see if he would be willing to accepted a longer contract structured the way I detailed above. If he doesn't want to then I believe he is completely entitled to play out the contract that he negotiated with the club in good faith.
 
@cochise said:
@rex2ce said:
@cochise said:
This reduced salary talk is nonsense, the reason Chris is on so much next year is his contract was structured in such a way that he was being underpaid for the 1st few years of his contract with that to be made up in the final years. He should not accept anything that puts him into a poorer position financially.

If I was running the club and the rumoured $650K for next season is true, I'd renegoiate with Chris and see if he would be willing to accept a contract extension, that starts next season, for 3 years at $450K. He may accept a contract structured this way as it ensures him a guaranteed 1.35 million instead of $650K.

I agree ,I think we should keep him, even on $650k, he has done the years on less which no-one complained about

There is no way we should be offloading Chris, even at $650K, he has earnt that money. I would however talk to him and see if he would be willing to accepted a longer contract structured the way I detailed above. If he doesn't want to then I believe he is completely entitled to play out the contract that he negotiated with the club in good faith.

I agree with you that he is entitled to his money, however talk about him accepting a 3 year deal for 450k is still way overs for him. Let him see our the final year of his contract next year and then he can accept what's on offer in the UK

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@methods said:
@cochise said:
@rex2ce said:
@cochise said:
This reduced salary talk is nonsense, the reason Chris is on so much next year is his contract was structured in such a way that he was being underpaid for the 1st few years of his contract with that to be made up in the final years. He should not accept anything that puts him into a poorer position financially.

If I was running the club and the rumoured $650K for next season is true, I'd renegoiate with Chris and see if he would be willing to accept a contract extension, that starts next season, for 3 years at $450K. He may accept a contract structured this way as it ensures him a guaranteed 1.35 million instead of $650K.

I agree ,I think we should keep him, even on $650k, he has done the years on less which no-one complained about

There is no way we should be offloading Chris, even at $650K, he has earnt that money. I would however talk to him and see if he would be willing to accepted a longer contract structured the way I detailed above. If he doesn't want to then I believe he is completely entitled to play out the contract that he negotiated with the club in good faith.

I agree with you that he is entitled to his money, however talk about him accepting a 3 year deal for 450k is still way overs for him. Let him see our the final year of his contract next year and then he can accept what's on offer in the UK

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I disagree, Chris is developing into a very good 2nd rower, $450K would be slightly overs for him, but he is entitled to be receiving a little bit extra to make up for giving up $200K next year which we can use for next year.
 
@cochise said:
This reduced salary talk is nonsense, the reason Chris is on so much next year is his contract was structured in such a way that he was being underpaid for the 1st few years of his contract with that to be made up in the final years. He should not accept anything that puts him into a poorer position financially.

If I was running the club and the rumoured $650K for next season is true, I'd renegoiate with Chris and see if he would be willing to accept a contract extension, that starts next season, for 3 years at $450K. He may accept a contract structured this way as it ensures him a guaranteed 1.35 million instead of $650K.

Spot on Cochise,again it's these back ended deals that's the issue.
And I have to agree with you on the contact extension also,Chris has been a second rower for the past two plus years, why it's taken this long realise this I dont know.
Silly to let him go!
 
Not his fault we are in Dog doo with our cap….

He negotiated a contract in good faith...the club should honour it verbatim...end of story.
 
All NRL contracts are guaranteed - i.e. he will definitely earn the $650k (or whatever) he is due next year. The club will have to honour the contract if he's still here, though there's nothing against trying to offload him to another party, as long as CL accepts it.
We can't trade him away a la Nth America, any release will have be accepted by all parties in the deal.
 
@Magpie Ryan said:
@cochise said:
This reduced salary talk is nonsense, the reason Chris is on so much next year is his contract was structured in such a way that he was being underpaid for the 1st few years of his contract with that to be made up in the final years. He should not accept anything that puts him into a poorer position financially.

If I was running the club and the rumoured $650K for next season is true, I'd renegoiate with Chris and see if he would be willing to accept a contract extension, that starts next season, for 3 years at $450K. He may accept a contract structured this way as it ensures him a guaranteed 1.35 million instead of $650K.

Spot on Cochise,again it's these back ended deals that's the issue.
And I have to agree with you on the contact extension also,Chris has been a second rower for the past two plus years, why it's taken this long realise this I dont know.
Silly to let him go!

I agree - he's also only 26 years old. Sure he's not as fast as he used to be, but he's still one hell of an athlete. On top of that he is a very strong clubsman: hard worker, well spoken, cleanskin in the media, plays big minutes.

He's shown enough at backrow this season to make him the club's best backrower, and I don't see why that can't improve if his speed off the mark is no longer a criteria for the position.

Plus he can absolutely cover centre if injuries strike next year - considering we are carrying less interchanges, the players with greater utility are even more valuable, so you can carry more plodders on the bench rotation.
 
@ricksen said:
All NRL contracts are guaranteed - i.e. he will definitely earn the $650k (or whatever) he is due next year. The club will have to honour the contract if he's still here, though there's nothing against trying to offload him to another party, as long as CL accepts it.
We can't trade him away a la Nth America, any release will have be accepted by all parties in the deal.

That's not entirely true, many players in the past have accepted amended contracts contracts with less $. This has usually been done to keep other players at the clubs. If Chris agrees to a longer term contract with less $ for next season the NRL will register the new contract.

Chris is the only player I'd consider this strategy with as he is nearing the end of his contract and is currently providing good service to the club as a 2nd rower.
 

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