Joel Helmes
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End of discussion, 100% correct.
Cleary...
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End of discussion, 100% correct.
Tiger_Watto
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of course not, but a DIFFERENT game plan from what we have been doing the past 18mths will show us Cleary has some sort of a plan/idea?
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Is this the one who beat North Queensland in North Queensland…Oh yeah JT didn't play the last 3mins...?
It's a bit much to expect much structural change mid-season, given there's only a few field training sessions per week between games and recovery sessions.
Throw in the two key playmakers being absent (one half acting up, the other being injured), and a suite of players looking towards 2018 elsewhere, and you get the mish-mash of incompetence we're witnessing.
There's no real leadership amongst the playing group and a distinct lack of confidence.
I'm not making excuses for IC - it is what it is, as our captain would say.
We've seen little changes here and there; attacking the ruck area more in the first few weeks, sliding defence more than the up and in etc. Sweeping changes on both sides of the ball will have to wait.
Throw in the two key playmakers being absent (one half acting up, the other being injured), and a suite of players looking towards 2018 elsewhere, and you get the mish-mash of incompetence we're witnessing.
There's no real leadership amongst the playing group and a distinct lack of confidence.
I'm not making excuses for IC - it is what it is, as our captain would say.
We've seen little changes here and there; attacking the ruck area more in the first few weeks, sliding defence more than the up and in etc. Sweeping changes on both sides of the ball will have to wait.
Basil_Tiger
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I thought we numbered up well in defence against Saints,esp. our RHS,and could have won the game,but everything back to normal today,lucky the Roosters were rusty in the first half or it would have been 60.
innsaneink
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I believe he touched on this during the Q&A sessions with Pascoe… The answer is in those videos I think
tigermac88
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To be fair we beat the cowboys with guts and determination and good scramble defence
Tiger_Steve
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Totally agree.
What we are experiencing now is the result of years of poor cap management and, as a consequence, unbelievably bad player recruitment and retention
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Yep, minutes after our positive start scoring an early try. It shouldn't have happened. And it was ultimately the result of them putting pressure on themselves.. Giving away a dumb penalty and walking them up to our 40 metre line, they shouldn't have even been in range for that try if we defended reasonably and of course didn't give away a penalty..
This stuff kills us, that and errors which were again plentiful today. They're not good enough to let that stuff happen and make up for it..
They really need to start getting the basics right before they can even think about being competitive, and a game plan and to a lesser extent coaching won't be of any benefit if they can't do that. Very poor.. The same stuff continues to happen most weeks.
timmings01
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Yeah I was thinking the same today. They keep going to Tedesco and every team they play knows it. Maybe try something different cause that ain't working anymore. :unamused: They were lucky the Roosters were off today because it could have been much worse.
Tweed_Tiger
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We might need to write a game plan on rugby league fundamentals to start with for some of the players. I would hate to write a game plan to somehow win with countless stupid errors and missed tackles.
timmings01
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As for Cleary? Hope for the best expect the worst. Us Tigers supporters already do that anyway lol
I've been waiting for some genius to post a ridiculous thread like this.
I sure Ivan Cleary has far better things to do than log onto this nonsense.
Falling over yourselves with compliments, what just eight weeks back or so.
Honestly how many of the 17 that played for the Tigers today would get a run with any other roster in the comp.
Look at the 20s and NSW Cup sides this year, their results are appalling.
Cleary didn't cause this, he inherited this.
Bye the way the Tigers played one of the 2017 Grand Finalists today. See how far wrong I am in October.
I sure Ivan Cleary has far better things to do than log onto this nonsense.
Falling over yourselves with compliments, what just eight weeks back or so.
Honestly how many of the 17 that played for the Tigers today would get a run with any other roster in the comp.
Look at the 20s and NSW Cup sides this year, their results are appalling.
Cleary didn't cause this, he inherited this.
Bye the way the Tigers played one of the 2017 Grand Finalists today. See how far wrong I am in October.
timmings01
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So where did that go?
timmings01
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Ridiculous thread? Yet here you are posting on it. lol
Coastie_Tiger
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I think I expected a bit more of a resurgence than what there's been, I was definitely not a fan of JT but maybe just maybe he wasn't the issue the bunch of reserve graders and a few so called superstars are and were the problem.
I think I'll judge Cleary on what he does next season if there isn't a remarkable improvement I'll be extremely surprised a lot of these player will either not be here or in ISP I expect a huge shift in culture and professionalism.
I think I'll judge Cleary on what he does next season if there isn't a remarkable improvement I'll be extremely surprised a lot of these player will either not be here or in ISP I expect a huge shift in culture and professionalism.
Tweed_Tiger
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good thread for the drama queens to release some steam it appears
Love_the_WestsTigers
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our season is done, i couldnt care less right now
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