Coach Mick Potter to punt on Miller as halfback

[tigsta]

Excellent point LaT.

Fulton is a Footballer, not just a player. In fact, had Liam been at Storm or Manly, hitting good lines with quality service during his career, he would have played a lot of rep footy IMO.
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No chance.
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[Brisbane_Tiger]

I'm pumped.
The whole club feels alive again and every one is competing for spots, so glad sheens is gone.
Moltz will start at fb but one dropped bomb or week tackle and he will be gone I reckon.
He may surprise us though now that he must compete.
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[LaT]

Excellent point LaT.

Fulton is a Footballer, not just a player. In fact, had Liam been at Storm or Manly, hitting good lines with quality service during his career, he would have played a lot of rep footy IMO.
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Don't know about a lot of rep footy, but he would have at least gooten a look in elsewhere. Players with half his heart and less talent got a few starts because of the teams they play for, rather than what they could bring to the team.

His size didn't help either.

 

[LaT]

Looking forward to seeing Lote this year there a couple of pics of him in the monday training gallery and he looks as fit as Koro is.

Just a trivia point about Lote is that most people don't know or have forgotten that he was the allocated goal kicker for Queensland in the State of Origin matches around 2003\. Talking of goal kickers West Tigers now have a good share of capable goal kickers to choose from in 2013 - Marshall, Benji and Anasta.

Yep I remember him kicking, bald head back then too.

He was pretty much the only kicker in that QLD side, and his only year of kicking for the regular season which wasn't crash hot!

 

[AmericanHistoryX]

Moltzen should get the same chances as everyone else to play first grade in 2013\. If he impresses in the trials I'm all for him being our 1\. Getting away from sheens and knowing that he has to compete for his spot may bring out the best in him. I have my severe doubts but still, I'm not discounting him just because of his previous deficiencies.

Good post, fergiefurr. I'm looking forward to seeing what all the players can do away from Sheens' directives and influence. Who knows, Moltz may actually turn out to be a fully committed and aggressive fullback, who plays with heart and attacks the high ball! Perhaps his timid and indecisive play was only a result of the confusing nature of Sheens' coaching. I'm sure a lot of the players didn't know if they were Arthur of Martha under Sheens at times. It's heartening to hear that Potter is actually thinking of starting the season, at least, with guys playing in their rightful positions, so maybe we will see Moltzen and co playing in a whole new light…or perhaps not lol.

will Moltzen put his body on the line. Thats all i want to know.
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[innsaneink]

Excellent point LaT.

Fulton is a Footballer, not just a player. In fact, had Liam been at Storm or Manly, hitting good lines with quality service during his career, he would have played a lot of rep footy IMO.
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No chance.
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LOL
A definite response to a hypothetical musing.

 

[happy_tiger]

Tedesco returning through NYC is starting to look more likely if the article is correct. Not necessarily a bad thing, just as long as he isn't overlooked for too long.

Moltzen is a mystery for the future though, just where is he going to fit in to the puzzle once we get Teddy back? He never really showed any promise as a utility or a centre.

Yeah, but Meaney? You have a guy whose played about 10 fg games in 2 or 3 yrs in a leadership group ahead of guys like Galloway, Lote, Fulton and even Ayshford? maybe its because its 2 o'clock in the morning but that makes completely no sense at all

I've got this bad feeling Fulton won't be in the starting side ,possibly not even in the starting 17

You reckon? I've got no mail, but I'd be willing to bet everything I have that barring injury Fulton will be in the 17 for the entire year.

Hard to disagree there LaT. Why would you drop one of the two standout forwards in 2012? Most importantly, he's versatile and adds starch to our defence on the fringes. It's madness not to have him in the team.

I don't disagree with all of you but you need to in the end make the choice of either playing Anasta or Fulton as a starter and which one is more important to the side overall

Personally if it was me I want Fulton , I love the guy , but I reckon Potter won't start him and I think Fulton doesn't add anything off the bench and I would prefer heaps off size coming off the bench and Anasta playing the last 60 minutes when we need him the most But I don't think Potter will do that imo

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Sean Meaney in a leadership group?

:wtf

**Meaney has been captain of the Ressies for a couple years…**
Of course he will be in the leadership group!!
On of our best options at FB, A natural born leader
an incredible competitor!!
Meaney, Meaney, Mea NEY!!

The same grade that produced a park quality standard GF last yr?

If Meaney is going to be given a shot i'm happy to give him a chance. But they need to know his place. Like i said having a guy whose played about 10 games, all of which consisted of 2 min spells at the end of the game should have you nowhere near any kind of leadership group in the top grade ahead of the aforementioned players, regardless of how much experience you have in a second rate competition

 

[LaT]

I don't disagree with all of you but you need to in the end make the choice of either playing Anasta or Fulton as a starter and which one is more important to the side overall

Personally if it was me I want Fulton , I love the guy , but I reckon Potter won't start him and I think Fulton doesn't add anything off the bench and I would prefer heaps off size coming off the bench and Anasta playing the last 60 minutes when we need him the most But I don't think Potter will do that imo

What about Fulton as a utility? 4 massive forwards off the bench never appealed to me (neither did Sheens outside back benchie theory either tbh), but a utlity forward like Fulton sounds good to me.

 

[happy_tiger]

I don't disagree with all of you but you need to in the end make the choice of either playing Anasta or Fulton as a starter and which one is more important to the side overall

Personally if it was me I want Fulton , I love the guy , but I reckon Potter won't start him and I think Fulton doesn't add anything off the bench and I would prefer heaps off size coming off the bench and Anasta playing the last 60 minutes when we need him the most But I don't think Potter will do that imo

What about Fulton as a utility? 4 massive forwards off the bench never appealed to me (neither did Sheens outside back benchie theory either tbh), but a utlity forward like Fulton sounds good to me.

Well whats wrong with having Anasta coming off the bench and playing him for the last 60 minutes as I said LaT and let Liam play 80 where he is so much more suited

To expect Braith to play 80 as a backrower at 31yo isn't going to do him any favours ,especially seeing he is really a five eight dressed up as a back rower

 

[FARANGALANG]

Sean Meaney in a leadership group?

:wtf

Meaney has been captain of the Ressies for a couple years…
Of course he will be in the leadership group!!
On of our best options at FB, A natural born leader
an incredible competitor!!
Meaney, Meaney, Mea NEY!![/quote
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Problem is Batboy is they are talking first grade not reserve grade.

 

[Aladinsane]

Miller @ 7 ….Finally someone who can kick field goals in the starting 13.......I agree with Smeg , Meaney to start at Fullback in Round 1, a tough fullback with some mongrel in him

you could do with some research with these here above words.
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What Research AHX, that Miller can kick field Goals…..2 Classic field goals he kicked last year come to mind...
Rd 13 against Canberra in Canberra ....he kicks a long range field goal in the last minute to seal the game up 15-6.

Rd 19 against Penrith at Campbelltown ......This great game was locked up 22 all with 3 minutes or so left to play, Miller gets a rushed pass 45 metres out, with the defence in his face, he side steps to the right runs towards the sideline, still 45 out and drop kicks at an angle, to kick one of the best field goals I have ever seen.
Then like a senior playmaker he controls the rest of the game and grubber kicks it out across the sideline on the last to run down the clock.
Yes , he did missed a field goal in the GF , but what I saw at Campbelltown that day make me think , how good is this kid going to be when he grows up.....He will be the regular conversion kicker within a season or two , or make Benji really work hard to keep that role.

Or research on Meaney being a tough fullback with Mongrel in him…..I watch about 10 BRET games every season on average per the last 3 seasons to have made that assessment on him.

 

[Joel Helmes]

Mick Potter might see a bit of himself in Meaney i.e. Potter wasn't the biggest, fastest or most talented fullback but he was a fierce competitor and a real professional.

I hope Meaney and Simona get an opportunity to show what they can do.

Just back on the main topic - very pleased to hear that Miller is likely to be the seven, it is certainly one other piece of the puzzle settled as far as I'm concerned…

1.
2.
3\. Lawrence
4.
5.
6\. Marshall
7\. Miller
8\. Woods
9\. Farah
10\. Galloway
11\. Blair
12\. Pettyborne
13\. Anasta

14\. Fulton
15\. Bell
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[happy_tiger]

Mick Potter might see a bit of himself in Meaney i.e. Potter wasn't the biggest, fastest or most talented fullback but he was a fierce competitor and a real professional.

I hope Meaney and Simona get an opportunity to show what they can do.

Just back on the main topic - very pleased to hear that Miller is likely to be the seven, it is certainly one other piece of the puzzle settled as far as I'm concerned…

1.
2.
3\. Lawrence
4.
5.
6\. Marshall
7\. Miller
8\. Woods
9\. Farah
10\. Galloway
11\. Blair
12\. Pettyborne
13\. Anasta

14\. Fulton
15\. Bell
16.
17.

Koroibete not done enough for a walk up start in your opinion Helmesy ??

 

[Joel Helmes]

Mick Potter might see a bit of himself in Meaney i.e. Potter wasn't the biggest, fastest or most talented fullback but he was a fierce competitor and a real professional.

I hope Meaney and Simona get an opportunity to show what they can do.

Just back on the main topic - very pleased to hear that Miller is likely to be the seven, it is certainly one other piece of the puzzle settled as far as I'm concerned…

1.
2.
3\. Lawrence
4.
5.
6\. Marshall
7\. Miller
8\. Woods
9\. Farah
10\. Galloway
11\. Blair
12\. Pettyborne
13\. Anasta

14\. Fulton
15\. Bell
16.
17.

Koroibete not done enough for a walk up start in your opinion Helmesy ??

No I think he will be there, we just don't know what Mick is thinking, he might start the year with the experience of Utai and Tuqiri and bring Marika in when injuries occur.

The fullback issue may also change the plan, and with all this talk about fighting for positions maybe someone else might impress more at training and in the trials and grab the jumper to start the year (although this is probably unlikely given Marika's stunning impact in late 2012 imo).

 

[southerntiger]

Helmsey,

I have been thinking the same regarding the possible selection of Meaney. Potter was a no-nonsense fullback who played well above his weight. He may see the same thing in Meaney.

I have not been impressed with Sean in his few games in first grade. However, that may be the way he was used by Sheens and I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.

 

[Basil_Tiger]

Helmsey,

I have been thinking the same regarding the possible selection of Meaney. Potter was a no-nonsense fullback who played well above his weight. He may see the same thing in Meaney.

**I have not been impressed with Sean in his few games in first grade. However, that may be the way he was used bu Sheens and I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.**

Exactly my thoughts,he is yet to prove whether he is or isn't a NRL player,clean sheet for all players is what a new coach brings so fingers crossed for him & Miller.

 

[fergiefurr]

Moltzen should get the same chances as everyone else to play first grade in 2013\. If he impresses in the trials I'm all for him being our 1\. Getting away from sheens and knowing that he has to compete for his spot may bring out the best in him. I have my severe doubts but still, I'm not discounting him just because of his previous deficiencies.

Good post, fergiefurr. I'm looking forward to seeing what all the players can do away from Sheens' directives and influence. Who knows, Moltz may actually turn out to be a fully committed and aggressive fullback, who plays with heart and attacks the high ball! Perhaps his timid and indecisive play was only a result of the confusing nature of Sheens' coaching. I'm sure a lot of the players didn't know if they were Arthur of Martha under Sheens at times. It's heartening to hear that Potter is actually thinking of starting the season, at least, with guys playing in their rightful positions, so maybe we will see Moltzen and co playing in a whole new light…or perhaps not lol.

Do you seriously think sheens encouraged moltzen not to catch high balls or had any influence on him not catch them. The answer is no. That was all moltzen. Sheens is copping way to much blame for last year. I'm happy with a fresh coach but gee wiz lets get real. The players were out on the field.
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Of course not and trust me, no one was abusing moltzen more then me last year. However it was evident that he was never going to Get dropped so he had little motivation to go all out.

He would out in terrible heartless performances week in week out but be on the team sheet the next week. Then when he was injured Ryan would out in performances ten times better then him, but be back in the wing/center when moltzen was fit again.

With increased competition I'm hoping we will see some steel in his game. If he improves then I see no reason why he shouldnt be considered for first grade
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[magpiecol]

Moltzen should get the same chances as everyone else to play first grade in 2013\. If he impresses in the trials I'm all for him being our 1\. Getting away from sheens and knowing that he has to compete for his spot may bring out the best in him. I have my severe doubts but still, I'm not discounting him just because of his previous deficiencies.

Good post, fergiefurr. I'm looking forward to seeing what all the players can do away from Sheens' directives and influence. Who knows, Moltz may actually turn out to be a fully committed and aggressive fullback, who plays with heart and attacks the high ball! Perhaps his timid and indecisive play was only a result of the confusing nature of Sheens' coaching. I'm sure a lot of the players didn't know if they were Arthur of Martha under Sheens at times. It's heartening to hear that Potter is actually thinking of starting the season, at least, with guys playing in their rightful positions, so maybe we will see Moltzen and co playing in a whole new light…or perhaps not lol.

Do you seriously think sheens encouraged moltzen not to catch high balls or had any influence on him not catch them. The answer is no. That was all moltzen. Sheens is copping way to much blame for last year. I'm happy with a fresh coach but gee wiz lets get real. The players were out on the field.
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Of course not and trust me, no one was abusing moltzen more then me last year. However it was evident that he was never going to Get dropped so he had little motivation to go all out.

He would out in terrible heartless performances week in week out but be on the team sheet the next week. Then when he was injured Ryan would out in performances ten times better then him, but be back in the wing/center when moltzen was fit again.

With increased competition I'm hoping we will see some steel in his game. If he improves then I see no reason why he shouldnt be considered for first grade
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Sheens gets the blame for not dropping players for bad form. Playing favourites is not the way to go if you want a winning football team. Or any team for that matter.

 

[Glennb]

For all of you puzzled or emotional at the APPOINTMENT of Meaney as a member of the Leadership Group, go back and re-read the original article. He was VOTED as a member of the Leadership Group and therefore I assume voted by his fellow players.