Completely unacceptable: ramifications

[gallagher]

The performance was unacceptable. It was expected it will happen every time on dry tracks against the top sides. We don’t have the players. The only way we will get them is through development. The league made a huge mistake with rule changes and not doing anything about funding junior development and a draft spreading talent.

A draft is the best idea. Or two leagues (the division of power, money and talent is that clear!).
Otherwise we are just like the premier league, but without the relegation.

I favour the draft. Make it happen PVL.

Would a draft help much? You would still need the right people to identify talent.
I don't follow AFL but living in Perth you pick up on a few things.
Fremantle have always been a crap club and West Coast always a top club. Both got crap loads of money, both have great facilities. Just about every year freo would have had better draft choices but never seem to improve.
Why's that?

Answer? Lol

I think it must be poor management. Losing culture. Looking to the NRL to help us be competitive says it all. As fans, we don't demand the club to do better we ask the NRL to prop us up.

 

[cochise]

The performance was unacceptable. It was expected it will happen every time on dry tracks against the top sides. We don’t have the players. The only way we will get them is through development. The league made a huge mistake with rule changes and not doing anything about funding junior development and a draft spreading talent.

A draft is the best idea. Or two leagues (the division of power, money and talent is that clear!).
Otherwise we are just like the premier league, but without the relegation.

I favour the draft. Make it happen PVL.

I'm not a fan of the draft, but that is just me being an old fogey.


I really see it as the option to even out the teams so that every team gets a crack at good players.

Yeah, I just love watching youngsters come thru the grade at a club, watching them from juniors to rep players. I'd prefer we just get better than need a artificial assistance through a draft.

But it’s not happening mate they just end up at the Roosters

Then we need to get better.

Mate, I turn 70 in a month. I haven't got that much time.

Stay positive, you may live to 100. 30 more years of missing the finals

 

[mike]

The performance was unacceptable. It was expected it will happen every time on dry tracks against the top sides. We don’t have the players. The only way we will get them is through development. The league made a huge mistake with rule changes and not doing anything about funding junior development and a draft spreading talent.

A draft is the best idea. Or two leagues (the division of power, money and talent is that clear!).
Otherwise we are just like the premier league, but without the relegation.

I favour the draft. Make it happen PVL.

I'm not a fan of the draft, but that is just me being an old fogey.


I really see it as the option to even out the teams so that every team gets a crack at good players.

Yeah, I just love watching youngsters come thru the grade at a club, watching them from juniors to rep players. I'd prefer we just get better than need a artificial assistance through a draft.

But it’s not happening mate they just end up at the Roosters

Then we need to get better.

Better or richer?

What comes 1st, the chicken or the egg?

Better before you can get richer and make money. You just need to do things differently than you have in the past until you find what works. Unfortunately there is no single formula for doing so.

 

[mike]

The performance was unacceptable. It was expected it will happen every time on dry tracks against the top sides. We don’t have the players. The only way we will get them is through development. The league made a huge mistake with rule changes and not doing anything about funding junior development and a draft spreading talent.

A draft is the best idea. Or two leagues (the division of power, money and talent is that clear!).
Otherwise we are just like the premier league, but without the relegation.

I favour the draft. Make it happen PVL.

I'm not a fan of the draft, but that is just me being an old fogey.


I really see it as the option to even out the teams so that every team gets a crack at good players.

Yeah, I just love watching youngsters come thru the grade at a club, watching them from juniors to rep players. I'd prefer we just get better than need a artificial assistance through a draft.

But it’s not happening mate they just end up at the Roosters

Then we need to get better.

Mate, I turn 70 in a month. I haven't got that much time.

Stay positive, you may live to 100. 30 more years of missing the finals

How depressing is that comment. lol

 

[BAGNF05]

The performance was unacceptable. It was expected it will happen every time on dry tracks against the top sides. We don’t have the players. The only way we will get them is through development. The league made a huge mistake with rule changes and not doing anything about funding junior development and a draft spreading talent.

A draft is the best idea. Or two leagues (the division of power, money and talent is that clear!).
Otherwise we are just like the premier league, but without the relegation.

I favour the draft. Make it happen PVL.

I'm not a fan of the draft, but that is just me being an old fogey.


I really see it as the option to even out the teams so that every team gets a crack at good players.

Yeah, I just love watching youngsters come thru the grade at a club, watching them from juniors to rep players. I'd prefer we just get better than need a artificial assistance through a draft.

But it’s not happening mate they just end up at the Roosters

Then we need to get better.

Better or richer?

What comes 1st, the chicken or the egg?

A draft works to assist clubs who don’t have the power or finances, you will always have a big disparity particularly when some clubs are owned by super rich media moguls. If the gap between the haves and have nots keeps growing the NRL is going to become a niche sport followed by a few big corporates and nuffies from Victoria who don’t know the rules.

 

[coivtny]

The performance was unacceptable. It was expected it will happen every time on dry tracks against the top sides. We don’t have the players. The only way we will get them is through development. The league made a huge mistake with rule changes and not doing anything about funding junior development and a draft spreading talent.

A draft is the best idea. Or two leagues (the division of power, money and talent is that clear!).
Otherwise we are just like the premier league, but without the relegation.

I favour the draft. Make it happen PVL.

I'm not a fan of the draft, but that is just me being an old fogey.


I really see it as the option to even out the teams so that every team gets a crack at good players.

Yeah, I just love watching youngsters come thru the grade at a club, watching them from juniors to rep players. I'd prefer we just get better than need a artificial assistance through a draft.

But it’s not happening mate they just end up at the Roosters

Then we need to get better.

Mate, I turn 70 in a month. I haven't got that much time.

Stay positive, you may live to 100. 30 more years of missing the finals

Just the little lift I needed. Is that how you lift the spirits of the Chiricahuas?

 

[cochise]

The performance was unacceptable. It was expected it will happen every time on dry tracks against the top sides. We don’t have the players. The only way we will get them is through development. The league made a huge mistake with rule changes and not doing anything about funding junior development and a draft spreading talent.

A draft is the best idea. Or two leagues (the division of power, money and talent is that clear!).
Otherwise we are just like the premier league, but without the relegation.

I favour the draft. Make it happen PVL.

I'm not a fan of the draft, but that is just me being an old fogey.


I really see it as the option to even out the teams so that every team gets a crack at good players.

Yeah, I just love watching youngsters come thru the grade at a club, watching them from juniors to rep players. I'd prefer we just get better than need a artificial assistance through a draft.

But it’s not happening mate they just end up at the Roosters

Then we need to get better.

Better or richer?

What comes 1st, the chicken or the egg?

A draft works to assist clubs who don’t have the power or finances, you will always have a big disparity particularly when some clubs are owned by super rich media moguls. If the gap between the haves and have nots keeps growing the NRL is going to become a niche sport followed by a few big corporates and nuffies from Victoria who don’t know the rules.

Mate I get what the draft does, it is just my preference not to have one as it would take away some of the aspects I like about Rugby League. i like the draft in the NFL but the way the NFL is set up and the way I watch it is completely different.

 

[cochise]

The performance was unacceptable. It was expected it will happen every time on dry tracks against the top sides. We don’t have the players. The only way we will get them is through development. The league made a huge mistake with rule changes and not doing anything about funding junior development and a draft spreading talent.

A draft is the best idea. Or two leagues (the division of power, money and talent is that clear!).
Otherwise we are just like the premier league, but without the relegation.

I favour the draft. Make it happen PVL.

I'm not a fan of the draft, but that is just me being an old fogey.


I really see it as the option to even out the teams so that every team gets a crack at good players.

Yeah, I just love watching youngsters come thru the grade at a club, watching them from juniors to rep players. I'd prefer we just get better than need a artificial assistance through a draft.

But it’s not happening mate they just end up at the Roosters

Then we need to get better.

Mate, I turn 70 in a month. I haven't got that much time.

Stay positive, you may live to 100. 30 more years of missing the finals

Just the little lift I needed. Is that how you lift the spirits of the Chiricahuas?

Mate, I couldn't stand you viewing 70 as the end of your life, I had to give you something to live for 😛

 

[gallagher]

The performance was unacceptable. It was expected it will happen every time on dry tracks against the top sides. We don’t have the players. The only way we will get them is through development. The league made a huge mistake with rule changes and not doing anything about funding junior development and a draft spreading talent.

A draft is the best idea. Or two leagues (the division of power, money and talent is that clear!).
Otherwise we are just like the premier league, but without the relegation.

I favour the draft. Make it happen PVL.

I'm not a fan of the draft, but that is just me being an old fogey.


I really see it as the option to even out the teams so that every team gets a crack at good players.

Yeah, I just love watching youngsters come thru the grade at a club, watching them from juniors to rep players. I'd prefer we just get better than need a artificial assistance through a draft.

But it’s not happening mate they just end up at the Roosters

Then we need to get better.

Better or richer?

What comes 1st, the chicken or the egg?

A draft works to assist clubs who don’t have the power or finances, you will always have a big disparity particularly when some clubs are owned by super rich media moguls. If the gap between the haves and have nots keeps growing the NRL is going to become a niche sport followed by a few big corporates and nuffies from Victoria who don’t know the rules.

But fans scream at me all the time
' we're one of the few profitable clubs '.
A draft wouldn't help us, like the salary cap didn't help us.
You can only help yourself

 

[BAGNF05]

The performance was unacceptable. It was expected it will happen every time on dry tracks against the top sides. We don’t have the players. The only way we will get them is through development. The league made a huge mistake with rule changes and not doing anything about funding junior development and a draft spreading talent.

A draft is the best idea. Or two leagues (the division of power, money and talent is that clear!).
Otherwise we are just like the premier league, but without the relegation.

I favour the draft. Make it happen PVL.

I'm not a fan of the draft, but that is just me being an old fogey.


I really see it as the option to even out the teams so that every team gets a crack at good players.

Yeah, I just love watching youngsters come thru the grade at a club, watching them from juniors to rep players. I'd prefer we just get better than need a artificial assistance through a draft.

But it’s not happening mate they just end up at the Roosters

Then we need to get better.

Better or richer?

What comes 1st, the chicken or the egg?

A draft works to assist clubs who don’t have the power or finances, you will always have a big disparity particularly when some clubs are owned by super rich media moguls. If the gap between the haves and have nots keeps growing the NRL is going to become a niche sport followed by a few big corporates and nuffies from Victoria who don’t know the rules.

Mate I get what the draft does, it is just my preference not to have one as it would take away some of the aspects I like about Rugby League. i like the draft in the NFL but the way the NFL is set up and the way I watch it is completely different.

Sorry didn’t mean to come across as condescending, my point is I don’t think we can possibly compete with the super rich clubs unless we find super rich investors, maybe back door Benny was into something, so I’m in favour of the draft. Each to their own though.

 

[cochise]

The performance was unacceptable. It was expected it will happen every time on dry tracks against the top sides. We don’t have the players. The only way we will get them is through development. The league made a huge mistake with rule changes and not doing anything about funding junior development and a draft spreading talent.

A draft is the best idea. Or two leagues (the division of power, money and talent is that clear!).
Otherwise we are just like the premier league, but without the relegation.

I favour the draft. Make it happen PVL.

I'm not a fan of the draft, but that is just me being an old fogey.


I really see it as the option to even out the teams so that every team gets a crack at good players.

Yeah, I just love watching youngsters come thru the grade at a club, watching them from juniors to rep players. I'd prefer we just get better than need a artificial assistance through a draft.

But it’s not happening mate they just end up at the Roosters

Then we need to get better.

Better or richer?

What comes 1st, the chicken or the egg?

A draft works to assist clubs who don’t have the power or finances, you will always have a big disparity particularly when some clubs are owned by super rich media moguls. If the gap between the haves and have nots keeps growing the NRL is going to become a niche sport followed by a few big corporates and nuffies from Victoria who don’t know the rules.

Mate I get what the draft does, it is just my preference not to have one as it would take away some of the aspects I like about Rugby League. i like the draft in the NFL but the way the NFL is set up and the way I watch it is completely different.

Sorry didn’t mean to come across as condescending, my point is I don’t think we can possibly compete with the super rich clubs unless we find super rich investors, maybe back door Benny was into something, so I’m in favour of the draft. Each to their own though.

As I said in my 1st post on this, I'm being an old fogey and my preference on the draft relates more to the way I watch Rugby League than anything else.

 

[cqtiger]

The performance was unacceptable. It was expected it will happen every time on dry tracks against the top sides. We don’t have the players. The only way we will get them is through development. The league made a huge mistake with rule changes and not doing anything about funding junior development and a draft spreading talent.

A draft is the best idea. Or two leagues (the division of power, money and talent is that clear!).
Otherwise we are just like the premier league, but without the relegation.

I favour the draft. Make it happen PVL.

I'm not a fan of the draft, but that is just me being an old fogey.


I really see it as the option to even out the teams so that every team gets a crack at good players.

Yeah, I just love watching youngsters come thru the grade at a club, watching them from juniors to rep players. I'd prefer we just get better than need a artificial assistance through a draft.

But it’s not happening mate they just end up at the Roosters

Then we need to get better.

Mate, I turn 70 in a month. I haven't got that much time.

Stay positive, you may live to 100. 30 more years of missing the finals

I don’t believe that any Wests Tigers fans will get close to the 100 mark. Too stressful, bad on the heart.

 

[BAGNF05]

The performance was unacceptable. It was expected it will happen every time on dry tracks against the top sides. We don’t have the players. The only way we will get them is through development. The league made a huge mistake with rule changes and not doing anything about funding junior development and a draft spreading talent.

A draft is the best idea. Or two leagues (the division of power, money and talent is that clear!).
Otherwise we are just like the premier league, but without the relegation.

I favour the draft. Make it happen PVL.

I'm not a fan of the draft, but that is just me being an old fogey.


I really see it as the option to even out the teams so that every team gets a crack at good players.

Yeah, I just love watching youngsters come thru the grade at a club, watching them from juniors to rep players. I'd prefer we just get better than need a artificial assistance through a draft.

But it’s not happening mate they just end up at the Roosters

Then we need to get better.

Mate, I turn 70 in a month. I haven't got that much time.

Stay positive, you may live to 100. 30 more years of missing the finals

I don’t believe that any Wests Tigers fans will get close to the 100 mark. Too stressful, bad on the heart.

I get 24 migraines each season

 

[tony soprano]

It really annoys me how quite the club are after floggings I want to know what’s going on and what their plans is but they don’t give a stuff. Media department gotten worse and worse

 

[hobbo1]

The performance was unacceptable. It was expected it will happen every time on dry tracks against the top sides. We don’t have the players. The only way we will get them is through development. The league made a huge mistake with rule changes and not doing anything about funding junior development and a draft spreading talent.

A draft is the best idea. Or two leagues (the division of power, money and talent is that clear!).
Otherwise we are just like the premier league, but without the relegation.

I favour the draft. Make it happen PVL.

I'm not a fan of the draft, but that is just me being an old fogey.


I really see it as the option to even out the teams so that every team gets a crack at good players.

Yeah, I just love watching youngsters come thru the grade at a club, watching them from juniors to rep players. I'd prefer we just get better than need a artificial assistance through a draft.

But it’s not happening mate they just end up at the Roosters

Then we need to get better.

Mate, I turn 70 in a month. I haven't got that much time.

Stay positive, you may live to 100. 30 more years of missing the finals

I don’t believe that any Wests Tigers fans will get close to the 100 mark. Too stressful, bad on the heart.

I get 24 migraines each season


 

[BAGNF05]

It really annoys me how quite the club are after floggings I want to know what’s going on and what their plans is but they don’t give a stuff. Media department gotten worse and worse

I picture Pascoe and Madge in front of a white board with post it notes looking like Homer Simpson

 

[GCfan]

The performance was unacceptable. It was expected it will happen every time on dry tracks against the top sides. We don’t have the players. The only way we will get them is through development. The league made a huge mistake with rule changes and not doing anything about funding junior development and a draft spreading talent.

A draft is the best idea. Or two leagues (the division of power, money and talent is that clear!).
Otherwise we are just like the premier league, but without the relegation.

I favour the draft. Make it happen PVL.

I'm not a fan of the draft, but that is just me being an old fogey.


I really see it as the option to even out the teams so that every team gets a crack at good players.

Yeah, I just love watching youngsters come thru the grade at a club, watching them from juniors to rep players. I'd prefer we just get better than need a artificial assistance through a draft.

But it’s not happening mate they just end up at the Roosters

Then we need to get better.

Mate, I turn 70 in a month. I haven't got that much time.

Stay positive, you may live to 100. 30 more years of missing the finals

I don’t believe that any Wests Tigers fans will get close to the 100 mark. Too stressful, bad on the heart.

I get 24 migraines each season


My Doctor hasn’t been able to figure out what is causing my Headaches. Thanks for this, it all makes sense now. Do you bulk bill?

 

[hobbo1]

The performance was unacceptable. It was expected it will happen every time on dry tracks against the top sides. We don’t have the players. The only way we will get them is through development. The league made a huge mistake with rule changes and not doing anything about funding junior development and a draft spreading talent.

A draft is the best idea. Or two leagues (the division of power, money and talent is that clear!).
Otherwise we are just like the premier league, but without the relegation.

I favour the draft. Make it happen PVL.

I'm not a fan of the draft, but that is just me being an old fogey.


I really see it as the option to even out the teams so that every team gets a crack at good players.

Yeah, I just love watching youngsters come thru the grade at a club, watching them from juniors to rep players. I'd prefer we just get better than need a artificial assistance through a draft.

But it’s not happening mate they just end up at the Roosters

Then we need to get better.

Mate, I turn 70 in a month. I haven't got that much time.

Stay positive, you may live to 100. 30 more years of missing the finals

I don’t believe that any Wests Tigers fans will get close to the 100 mark. Too stressful, bad on the heart.

I get 24 migraines each season


My Doctor hasn’t been able to figure out what is causing my Headaches. Thanks for this, it all makes sense now. Do you bulk bill?

Nah mate
Cash only ?

 

[Tiger5150]

The performance was unacceptable. It was expected it will happen every time on dry tracks against the top sides. We don’t have the players. The only way we will get them is through development. The league made a huge mistake with rule changes and not doing anything about funding junior development and a draft spreading talent.

A draft is the best idea. Or two leagues (the division of power, money and talent is that clear!).
Otherwise we are just like the premier league, but without the relegation.

I favour the draft. Make it happen PVL.

I'm not a fan of the draft, but that is just me being an old fogey.


I really see it as the option to even out the teams so that every team gets a crack at good players.

Yeah, I just love watching youngsters come thru the grade at a club, watching them from juniors to rep players. I'd prefer we just get better than need a artificial assistance through a draft.

But it’s not happening mate they just end up at the Roosters

Then we need to get better.

Better or richer?

What comes 1st, the chicken or the egg?

A draft works to assist clubs who don’t have the power or finances, you will always have a big disparity particularly when some clubs are owned by super rich media moguls. If the gap between the haves and have nots keeps growing the NRL is going to become a niche sport followed by a few big corporates and nuffies from Victoria who don’t know the rules.

But fans scream at me all the time
' we're one of the few profitable clubs '.
A draft wouldn't help us, like the salary cap didn't help us.
You can only help yourself

A draft would help us because it would help us keep our own young talent. Would Teddy or Paps have left if they might have ended up a the wooden spoon club rather than roosters/storm?

Won’t happen anyway. Needs the players association to agree

 

[BalmainJnr]

Like @cochise I am not keen on a draft, I am keen on developing our own and encouraging clubs to develop their own.
It will never happen but I would like to see less cap manipulation through TPAs and more cap incentives for clubs that develop their own players.