Controversy Surrounding Souths V Bulldogs Ref. Decision

[Masterton]

A 38-year-old man was arrested and charged with assault occasioning actual bodily harm.
The man is believed to be a relative of the boy, who was attending the game with his parents. The boy received minor facial injuries but did not require medical treatment.

These people are idiots.

 

[Flippedy]

Obviously ranting and raving and posting lunatic comments on their forum, after a heartbreaking loss, isn't enough for a certain section of the Bulldogs supporters - works well for us though :laughing:

 

[Russell]

4 weeks for yelling at a ref? That's a bit stiff.

Just something we don't want to get a hold in great game Yoss.

 

[goldcoast_tiger]

I'm sure there'll be plenty of arguments against the decision but I'd like to say the following:

Usually when you charge down, you put your arms up high and jump up. Graham was most likely trying to charge down but he dived directly into the legs of a kicker. Maybe he was trying to dive at the ball near the legs? That's just not right. In the end, an injury did occur- freak accident maybe.

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I agree , if Graham had hit him higher it would have been a shoulder charge any way.( still a penalty)
No arms were used , it was a dive to hit him in the legs with his body .
I think that both Klemmer and Graham should have been sent off for the way they went on with the Ref. It's getting to a ridiculous way some of these players talk to them.
I'm not a Souths supporter in any way, and while I didn't mind seeing Luke smashed. Kicking people in the head at any time is a dog act. ( perfected over the years by Slater and Thurston) and I hope that there are suspensions handed out for that.
Most of our Refs are terrible , but they don't deserve to be attacked like they were yesterday.
I hope both Graham and Klemmer get quite a while on the sideline.
Seems like Graham has now added intimidating referees to his usual leading with his head in tackles to his game.
His tackling methods have now taken out Burgess , broken cheekbone and now Reynolds gets a long spell out of the game .

 

[king_sirro]

Tiger in the gong
Just because some including myself think it was a penalty doesn't mean we don't see that Souths get preferential treatment at other times. You lost me when u tried to link the two.

 

[alexaki]

If KLemer and Graham didnt blow their stack…the bottle throwing incident doesnt happen..

Both should be suspended for 6 weeks for contrary conduct

 

[Russell]

I was not saying Graham should get 4 weeks if anyone took it that way.

I was talking about Klemmer - there was no reason for him to say anything to the Ref. certainly not go off as he did at an official.

Regarding penalties - the count doesn't mean anything (this is obvious in our own counts during games). It is when and where you get them.
The count can be even - Souths get the calls in the opposition half, Dogs get the calls in their own half. Get a couple in succession and you are pretty much over the line - if it goes the opposite way the game could be over.

Well you shouldn't give away penalties I hear you say. Agree, but all teams do and most often for the same infringement. Some are picked up on and some aren't.
Not saying there is any conspiracy but "The Pride of the League" do get most of the above good calls.

The NRL maybe, are trying to prove that when "Souffs are going well - the League is going well."

After all the League was doing so badly over the last 43 years up to last year. Lucky that Souffs won, it probably saved the game - Yeah! right.

 

[gallagher]

If KLemer and Graham didnt blow their stack…the bottle throwing incident doesnt happen..

Both should be suspended for 6 weeks for contrary conduct

The scumbag element of the dogs fan base act this way regularly, the players behaviour would not have helped but those fans would have thrown bottles either way.

 

[TurnStyle]

"Winners never Quit and **Quiters** never Win"-Me

says "Quiters" Tigersman! you probably mean "Quitters"… :wink:

 

[softlaw]

4 weeks for yelling at a ref? That's a bit stiff.

Threatening behaviour towards a match official - personally I think they should get 6 weeks each and graham should lose the captaincy.

That sort of behaviour is why they are now going to employ security guards at juniors matches to ensure that officials don;t get harassed. Completely unacceptable at all levels and by all players - but at the very top level, by a club captain - they should make a massive example of him.

(not that it will happen. he'll be charged, appeal successfully and get off with a slap on the wrist)

 

[clontarfkid]

The lack of respect shown to officials by most players is unprecedented in any other sport,& continues to deteriorate in NRL.
That triggers the crowd beahviour.
Smith needs to take a stand on Both Klemmer and Graham and start issuing fines and suspensions,and give refs more support to sinbin such expletive laden outbursts directed at them

 

[GNR4LIFE]

There's yelling, then there's what they were doing. It bordered on intimidation. Graham was pointing the finger, standing over him. As for Klemmer, that turd wasn't the captain, he had no business being anywhere near the ref. Absolute tool.

 

[Tigermama]

It wasnt the refs that incited the dog members….it was their (C)


Wife said exactly the same thing and believes he should be stripped of the captaincy. Hard to argue that Graham did cause it now I think about it more. His over the top reaction is definitely what fired up the dogs fans because it gave them the strong belief they were outrageously robbed. If he stayed calm then the fans would be filthy at losing like that but they wouldn't have gone off like they did.

Spot on , what Graham is doing finger pointing at the Ref's face is a very intimidating gesture . You do that away from a professional Arena and do that at a Pub ? guaranteed that would be a fight .

He is a very poor Captain who lacks self Control , like i said yesterday you can go off till your blue in the face but your not going to change a Ref's call.
On the tackle if you are going to throw yourself at a player's feet like that be prepared to pay for the consequences if it goes wrong .

Shame on you Graham you have certainly been taught well on the Bulldogs culture.

Well said FT. I was thinking the same thing about Graham not being Captain material and was surprised from the outset that he was chosen to be Captain… :astonished:
As for Klammer? He's not to old to have his mouth washed out with soap.
I would be so ashamed if he was my son. 😕

 

[goldcoast_tiger]

Pretty sure graham was put on report for the tackle. Could be wrong though.
For mine, a penalty anytime of the game, unfortunate it was last minute in front.
That sort of tackle has knee ligament damage written all over it.
Graham needs to be put in his place also, gets away with too much chat during the game. Rules changed last year that captain wasn't entitled to question every call. Needs 10 mins in the bin to set a precedent and get control back.

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Don't have a problem with a captain questioning a ruling , but after he gets an answer , that's it!
Get on with game, as the Ref isn't going to change because a big mouth Captain keeps trying to intimidating him. ( or in Cammies case , sucking up to him)
What happened yesterday went way over the top and shouldn't be allowed to happen again.
Whatever happened to Refs advancing the penalty when one of these geniuses throw a tantrum. ( player or Captain)
It worked well before, have some guts, and bring it back.

 

[goldcoast_tiger]

4 weeks for yelling at a ref? That's a bit stiff.

Threatening behaviour towards a match official - personally I think they should get 6 weeks each and graham should lose the captaincy.

That sort of behaviour is why they are now going to employ security guards at juniors matches to ensure that officials don;t get harassed. Completely unacceptable at all levels and by all players - but at the very top level, by a club captain - they should make a massive example of him.

(not that it will happen. he'll be charged, appeal successfully and get off with a slap on the wrist)

I doubt that will be the case this time!!

 

[foreveratiger]

4 weeks for yelling at a ref? That's a bit stiff.

Threatening behaviour towards a match official - personally I think they should get 6 weeks each and graham should lose the captaincy.

That sort of behaviour is why they are now going to employ security guards at juniors matches to ensure that officials don;t get harassed. Completely unacceptable at all levels and by all players - but at the very top level, by a club captain - they should make a massive example of him.

(not that it will happen. he'll be charged, appeal successfully and get off with a slap on the wrist)

4 weeks punishment is good for me , a hard line has to be shown by the NRL that such behaviour won't be tolerated .

 

[Tigermama]

I'll say one thing about Graham. He appeared to show genuine concern for Reynolds after the contentious "tackle". Inglis looked like a clown for pushing him away. Penalty or no penalty it seemed pretty obvious Graham's motive was to stop the FG rather than target Reynolds' legs.

Agree, Graham is one of those what you see what you get players and has his emotion on his sleeve but does care about players - he has done that a few times, he plays the game hard like the old days but has respect for his opponent during battle, problem is yesterday it boiled over the top to the refs.

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Wasn't that long ago he got suspended for biting Slaters ear…
Glad he got that out of his game.

 

[Tigermama]

All this talk about a Sydney team being relocated, why not relocate the Dogs? You'd see a lot less of this bs

Relocating them to Silverwater would be convenient.

Too funny… :laughing:

 

[foreveratiger]

I'll say one thing about Graham. He appeared to show genuine concern for Reynolds after the contentious "tackle". Inglis looked like a clown for pushing him away. Penalty or no penalty it seemed pretty obvious Graham's motive was to stop the FG rather than target Reynolds' legs.

Agree, Graham is one of those what you see what you get players and has his emotion on his sleeve but does care about players - he has done that a few times, he plays the game hard like the old days but has respect for his opponent during battle, problem is yesterday it boiled over the top to the refs.

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Wasn't that long ago he got suspended for biting Slaters ear…
Glad he got that out of his game.

Yeah that's right . Goes to show that he just doesn't learn and to make him Captain 😱pen_mouth: that is simply hilarious .

 

[Telltails]

It all comes down to what fans deem.as a fair win. The best team lost. and the referees decisions played some part in that. Dont have a problem with the eight point try or even the last penalty - it was the two penalties before that (both dubious) to Souths, that got them back into the game, and the penalty that should have been awarded to The Bulldogs when Morris was taken out, that are hard to swallow. But now because the fans blew up, disgracefully, the refs will escape criticism again. I suspect that there would have been an adverse reaction by an element of any supporter base. due to the refereeing in that match.