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@trentrunciman said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1150358) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1150329) said:
@trentrunciman said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1150328) said:
fingers crossed it won't take too long for international travel to be relaxed. We wont last long without our cohort of international students...i won't have a class to teach by term 1 2021

International travel? IMO 2025 is a realist timeframe.

i'm hoping end of this year or early 2021...otherwise i'll be heading to centrelink

Looks like they are planning on exemptions to allow international students to enter the country before the borders are reopened.
 
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1150645) said:
@trentrunciman said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1150358) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1150329) said:
@trentrunciman said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1150328) said:
fingers crossed it won't take too long for international travel to be relaxed. We wont last long without our cohort of international students...i won't have a class to teach by term 1 2021

International travel? IMO 2025 is a realist timeframe.

i'm hoping end of this year or early 2021...otherwise i'll be heading to centrelink

Looks like they are planning on exemptions to allow international students to enter the country before the borders are reopened.

8 Irish AFL players have been allowed to come in.
 
@gallagher said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1150646) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1150645) said:
@trentrunciman said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1150358) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1150329) said:
@trentrunciman said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1150328) said:
fingers crossed it won't take too long for international travel to be relaxed. We wont last long without our cohort of international students...i won't have a class to teach by term 1 2021

International travel? IMO 2025 is a realist timeframe.

i'm hoping end of this year or early 2021...otherwise i'll be heading to centrelink

Looks like they are planning on exemptions to allow international students to enter the country before the borders are reopened.

8 Irish AFL players have been allowed to come in.

There is a bit or discussion at the moment over who should pay for the hotel accommodation for the 2 weeks quarantine for the international students.
 
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1150645) said:
@trentrunciman said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1150358) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1150329) said:
@trentrunciman said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1150328) said:
fingers crossed it won't take too long for international travel to be relaxed. We wont last long without our cohort of international students...i won't have a class to teach by term 1 2021

International travel? IMO 2025 is a realist timeframe.

i'm hoping end of this year or early 2021...otherwise i'll be heading to centrelink

Looks like they are planning on exemptions to allow international students to enter the country before the borders are reopened.

I hope they do it properly. Make sure everyone coming into the country is checked before being allowed through the gates.
 
@JD-Tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1150651) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1150645) said:
@trentrunciman said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1150358) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1150329) said:
@trentrunciman said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1150328) said:
fingers crossed it won't take too long for international travel to be relaxed. We wont last long without our cohort of international students...i won't have a class to teach by term 1 2021

International travel? IMO 2025 is a realist timeframe.

i'm hoping end of this year or early 2021...otherwise i'll be heading to centrelink

Looks like they are planning on exemptions to allow international students to enter the country before the borders are reopened.

I hope they do it properly. Make sure everyone coming into the country is checked before being allowed through the gates.

They will put them into quarantine for 2 weeks, that seems to be working quite well.
 
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1150654) said:
@JD-Tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1150651) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1150645) said:
@trentrunciman said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1150358) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1150329) said:
@trentrunciman said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1150328) said:
fingers crossed it won't take too long for international travel to be relaxed. We wont last long without our cohort of international students...i won't have a class to teach by term 1 2021

International travel? IMO 2025 is a realist timeframe.

i'm hoping end of this year or early 2021...otherwise i'll be heading to centrelink

Looks like they are planning on exemptions to allow international students to enter the country before the borders are reopened.

I hope they do it properly. Make sure everyone coming into the country is checked before being allowed through the gates.

They will put them into quarantine for 2 weeks, that seems to be working quite well.


But who pays the ferryman?
 
@tiger_one said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1150655) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1150654) said:
@JD-Tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1150651) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1150645) said:
@trentrunciman said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1150358) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1150329) said:
@trentrunciman said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1150328) said:
fingers crossed it won't take too long for international travel to be relaxed. We wont last long without our cohort of international students...i won't have a class to teach by term 1 2021

International travel? IMO 2025 is a realist timeframe.

i'm hoping end of this year or early 2021...otherwise i'll be heading to centrelink

Looks like they are planning on exemptions to allow international students to enter the country before the borders are reopened.

I hope they do it properly. Make sure everyone coming into the country is checked before being allowed through the gates.

They will put them into quarantine for 2 weeks, that seems to be working quite well.


But who pays the ferryman?

That is what they are deciding atm, to be honest with the money the universities are making out of the international students I believe that the unis should pay for it.
 
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1150656) said:
@tiger_one said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1150655) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1150654) said:
@JD-Tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1150651) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1150645) said:
@trentrunciman said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1150358) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1150329) said:
@trentrunciman said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1150328) said:
fingers crossed it won't take too long for international travel to be relaxed. We wont last long without our cohort of international students...i won't have a class to teach by term 1 2021

International travel? IMO 2025 is a realist timeframe.

i'm hoping end of this year or early 2021...otherwise i'll be heading to centrelink

Looks like they are planning on exemptions to allow international students to enter the country before the borders are reopened.

I hope they do it properly. Make sure everyone coming into the country is checked before being allowed through the gates.

They will put them into quarantine for 2 weeks, that seems to be working quite well.


But who pays the ferryman?

That is what they are deciding atm, to be honest with the money the universities are making out of the international students I believe that the unis should pay for it.

They should pay for the isolation themselves... if your able to travel around the globe to be educated you certainly can afford the cost of the isolation... no tax payer dollars here thanks !
 
@Snake said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1150666) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1150656) said:
@tiger_one said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1150655) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1150654) said:
@JD-Tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1150651) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1150645) said:
@trentrunciman said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1150358) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1150329) said:
@trentrunciman said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1150328) said:
fingers crossed it won't take too long for international travel to be relaxed. We wont last long without our cohort of international students...i won't have a class to teach by term 1 2021

International travel? IMO 2025 is a realist timeframe.

i'm hoping end of this year or early 2021...otherwise i'll be heading to centrelink

Looks like they are planning on exemptions to allow international students to enter the country before the borders are reopened.

I hope they do it properly. Make sure everyone coming into the country is checked before being allowed through the gates.

They will put them into quarantine for 2 weeks, that seems to be working quite well.


But who pays the ferryman?

That is what they are deciding atm, to be honest with the money the universities are making out of the international students I believe that the unis should pay for it.

They should pay for the isolation themselves... if your able to travel around the globe to be educated you certainly can afford the cost of the isolation... no tax payer dollars here thanks !

I agree mate
 
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1150497) said:
@JD-Tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1150496) said:
@Hangonaminute said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1150478) said:
Covid19 facts

Children are more likely to die from the flu than covid19.
CDC data Dr Scott Atlas Stanford.

If you are under the age of 24, you're more likely to be struck by lightning than to die covid19.
Avic Roy data

More than half of covid19 deaths in 20 states of the USA were in nursing homes.
81% in Minnesota
75% in Rhode island
72% in New Hampshire
60% in Oregon, Washington state, North Carolina, Nabraska, Massachusetts, Delaware and other states.

When Colarado revised their death toll to differentiate between those who died 'with' covid to those who died 'from' covid, their death toll dropped 25%.
According to the governor of Colorado.

Lockdowns are more deadly, people commit suicide at higher rates thanks to unemployment according to the bureau of economic research and statistics.

The economic devestation from lockdowns causes poverty worldwide which could lead to the death of hundreds of thousands of children, according to the United nations.

In places like Sweden, Georgia or Florida where lockdowns were lifted or there were never any to begin with, there has been no massive outbreak of covid19

The highest risk of covid19 transmission is at home among family members according to studies from Hong Kong, Germany and Taiwan
The risk of transmitting the virus outdoors is 18 times less.

The prediction models were wrong, have been proven wrong, but politicians who based their covid19 lockdown policies on those models have refused to revise them even when shown that the models are wrong.

There's reportedly over 5 million people dead across the world due to this. And in actuality the deaths resultant from this corona pandemic is really much higher. I'm sure there's been many mistakes, by those in charge all across the world. And maybe the models were all wrong, the social isolation made it worse, maybe so.

Of all the hundreds of different ways it could have gone, I am certain that the way it has gone is **not** the best possible outcome with the least deaths and least pain and hurt on everyone else.

I don't understand why you keep belittling the corona virus when the effect it has had has been so huge? You seem to be trying to raise awareness to those isolated from the social isolation, and that isolation is exacerbating the mental health trouble they have. Mate, we got it, I got it, I feel gutted for everyone adversely affected by this, and for everyone that has died, and suffered. You don't have to lessen the impact of the corona virus to shine light on the impact of the isolation. All aspects of this covid19 and consequent isolation are horrible.

Good post mate, I think it is very hard to argue that the lockdown we had here was extremely effective in flattening out our curve and slowing the spread. The reduction in out infection rate just correlates to precisely with the measured we introduced.

@Hangonaminute believes this was some overt effort to change the way our society functions by the overlords, there is not a lot of point arguing with that sort of logic.

Wrong again, but it will be used as an excuse to change the way society functions.
 
@JD-Tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1150496) said:
@Hangonaminute said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1150478) said:
Covid19 facts

Children are more likely to die from the flu than covid19.
CDC data Dr Scott Atlas Stanford.

If you are under the age of 24, you're more likely to be struck by lightning than to die covid19.
Avic Roy data

More than half of covid19 deaths in 20 states of the USA were in nursing homes.
81% in Minnesota
75% in Rhode island
72% in New Hampshire
60% in Oregon, Washington state, North Carolina, Nabraska, Massachusetts, Delaware and other states.

When Colarado revised their death toll to differentiate between those who died 'with' covid to those who died 'from' covid, their death toll dropped 25%.
According to the governor of Colorado.

Lockdowns are more deadly, people commit suicide at higher rates thanks to unemployment according to the bureau of economic research and statistics.

The economic devestation from lockdowns causes poverty worldwide which could lead to the death of hundreds of thousands of children, according to the United nations.

In places like Sweden, Georgia or Florida where lockdowns were lifted or there were never any to begin with, there has been no massive outbreak of covid19

The highest risk of covid19 transmission is at home among family members according to studies from Hong Kong, Germany and Taiwan
The risk of transmitting the virus outdoors is 18 times less.

The prediction models were wrong, have been proven wrong, but politicians who based their covid19 lockdown policies on those models have refused to revise them even when shown that the models are wrong.

There's reportedly over 5 million people dead across the world due to this. And in actuality the deaths resultant from this corona pandemic is really much higher. I'm sure there's been many mistakes, by those in charge all across the world. And maybe the models were all wrong, the social isolation made it worse, maybe so.

Of all the hundreds of different ways it could have gone, I am certain that the way it has gone is **not** the best possible outcome with the least deaths and least pain and hurt on everyone else.

I don't understand why you keep belittling the corona virus when the effect it has had has been so huge? You seem to be trying to raise awareness to those isolated from the social isolation, and that isolation is exacerbating the mental health trouble they have. Mate, we got it, I got it, I feel gutted for everyone adversely affected by this, and for everyone that has died, and suffered. You don't have to lessen the impact of the corona virus to shine light on the impact of the isolation. All aspects of this covid19 and consequent isolation are horrible.

Just stating some facts
 
@happy_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1150765) said:
A few countries have major issues still

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Wouldn't surprise me to see Brazil take the gold medal when it's all said and done. We've all got our opinions on Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon but Bolsonaro is a bona fide psychopath who literally said it wouldn't affect Brazil because they are "too strong." COVID will go through the favelas like a bad curry.
 
@Cultured_Bogan said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1150769) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1150765) said:
A few countries have major issues still

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Wouldn't surprise me to see Brazil take the gold medal when it's all said and done. We've all got our opinions on Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon but Bolsonaro is a bona fide psychopath who literally said it wouldn't affect Brazil because they are "too strong." COVID will go through the favelas like a bad curry.

A Brazilian woman i know said that when he was elected that she thought he was the worst possible person to lead the country.He lives in a world of his own creation and is more than happy to see the destruction of the lungs of the world(Amazon rain forest).Unfortunately he is a typical right wing despot and we have more than enough despots on both sides of politics in the world as it is.
You will get no true figures of cases/deaths from Brazil just government underestimations
 
$1.8bn for local government projects. All LNP and National Party dominated Councils please come and pick your cheques up from your local LNP and National Party Offices. Save time by doing this when you pick your sports rorts up.

Apparently the pink batt expenditure during the GFC was extravagant.

LNP spending = good.

ALP spending = bad

Four legs are better than two. Now where didIread that?

And those suffering psychological distress during lockdown, toughen up.
 
@Hangonaminute said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1150478) said:
Covid19 facts

Children are more likely to die from the flu than covid19.
CDC data Dr Scott Atlas Stanford.

If you are under the age of 24, you're more likely to be struck by lightning than to die covid19.
Avic Roy data

More than half of covid19 deaths in 20 states of the USA were in nursing homes.
81% in Minnesota
75% in Rhode island
72% in New Hampshire
60% in Oregon, Washington state, North Carolina, Nabraska, Massachusetts, Delaware and other states.

When Colarado revised their death toll to differentiate between those who died 'with' covid to those who died 'from' covid, their death toll dropped 25%.
According to the governor of Colorado.

Lockdowns are more deadly, people commit suicide at higher rates thanks to unemployment according to the bureau of economic research and statistics.

The economic devestation from lockdowns causes poverty worldwide which could lead to the death of hundreds of thousands of children, according to the United nations.

In places like Sweden, Georgia or Florida where lockdowns were lifted or there were never any to begin with, there has been no massive outbreak of covid19

The highest risk of covid19 transmission is at home among family members according to studies from Hong Kong, Germany and Taiwan
The risk of transmitting the virus outdoors is 18 times less.

The prediction models were wrong, have been proven wrong, but politicians who based their covid19 lockdown policies on those models have refused to revise them even when shown that the models are wrong.

Just been reported that Sweden now has the highest per capital death rate of any Nation. Sweden are paying for their lack of action.
 
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1150844) said:
@Hangonaminute said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1150478) said:
Covid19 facts

Children are more likely to die from the flu than covid19.
CDC data Dr Scott Atlas Stanford.

If you are under the age of 24, you're more likely to be struck by lightning than to die covid19.
Avic Roy data

More than half of covid19 deaths in 20 states of the USA were in nursing homes.
81% in Minnesota
75% in Rhode island
72% in New Hampshire
60% in Oregon, Washington state, North Carolina, Nabraska, Massachusetts, Delaware and other states.

When Colarado revised their death toll to differentiate between those who died 'with' covid to those who died 'from' covid, their death toll dropped 25%.
According to the governor of Colorado.

Lockdowns are more deadly, people commit suicide at higher rates thanks to unemployment according to the bureau of economic research and statistics.

The economic devestation from lockdowns causes poverty worldwide which could lead to the death of hundreds of thousands of children, according to the United nations.

In places like Sweden, Georgia or Florida where lockdowns were lifted or there were never any to begin with, there has been no massive outbreak of covid19

The highest risk of covid19 transmission is at home among family members according to studies from Hong Kong, Germany and Taiwan
The risk of transmitting the virus outdoors is 18 times less.

The prediction models were wrong, have been proven wrong, but politicians who based their covid19 lockdown policies on those models have refused to revise them even when shown that the models are wrong.

Just been reported that Sweden now has the highest per capital death rate of any Nation. Sweden are paying for their lack of action.

Well there you go....
 
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