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@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1201427) said:
@trentrunciman said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1201422) said:
anyone else feeling stressed at work because of staff using Covid as a ruse to not go to work?

All the full timers at my work been doing nothing compared to the casual staff who aren't paid if they dont come to work...

i had to take a week stress leave because of the new semester at University and students getting angry cause there were no staff to help them...

I have noticed a trend of higher testing rates on Mondays compared to other days.

don;t you get 2 days off after a test?

just the normal amount of staff arent around but the same number of students are here at my work. But at the same time i'm appreciative i have a job
 
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1201427) said:
@trentrunciman said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1201422) said:
anyone else feeling stressed at work because of staff using Covid as a ruse to not go to work?

All the full timers at my work been doing nothing compared to the casual staff who aren't paid if they dont come to work...

i had to take a week stress leave because of the new semester at University and students getting angry cause there were no staff to help them...

I have noticed a trend of higher testing rates on Mondays compared to other days.

![92cd90bf-31fd-4c94-933e-becdcee2c1e1-image.png](/assets/uploads/files/1597041389951-92cd90bf-31fd-4c94-933e-becdcee2c1e1-image.png)
 
@trentrunciman said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1201429) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1201427) said:
@trentrunciman said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1201422) said:
anyone else feeling stressed at work because of staff using Covid as a ruse to not go to work?

All the full timers at my work been doing nothing compared to the casual staff who aren't paid if they dont come to work...

i had to take a week stress leave because of the new semester at University and students getting angry cause there were no staff to help them...

I have noticed a trend of higher testing rates on Mondays compared to other days.

don;t you get 2 days off after a test?

just the normal amount of staff arent around but the same number of students are here at my work. But at the same time i'm appreciative i have a job

You have to isolate until you receive your results which can be up to 3 days. My last test took 2 days 3 weeks ago.
 
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1201431) said:
@trentrunciman said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1201429) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1201427) said:
@trentrunciman said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1201422) said:
anyone else feeling stressed at work because of staff using Covid as a ruse to not go to work?

All the full timers at my work been doing nothing compared to the casual staff who aren't paid if they dont come to work...

i had to take a week stress leave because of the new semester at University and students getting angry cause there were no staff to help them...

I have noticed a trend of higher testing rates on Mondays compared to other days.

don;t you get 2 days off after a test?

just the normal amount of staff arent around but the same number of students are here at my work. But at the same time i'm appreciative i have a job

You have to isolate until you receive your results which can be up to 3 days. My last test took 2 days 3 weeks ago.

i see. I think one of my mates who works @Optus told me people were abusing it.

Been hella busy for us in the education industry but some staff haven't come into work since Feb/March.

One lady got permission to work remotely from Korea....
 
@trentrunciman said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1201433) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1201431) said:
@trentrunciman said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1201429) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1201427) said:
@trentrunciman said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1201422) said:
anyone else feeling stressed at work because of staff using Covid as a ruse to not go to work?

All the full timers at my work been doing nothing compared to the casual staff who aren't paid if they dont come to work...

i had to take a week stress leave because of the new semester at University and students getting angry cause there were no staff to help them...

I have noticed a trend of higher testing rates on Mondays compared to other days.

don;t you get 2 days off after a test?

just the normal amount of staff arent around but the same number of students are here at my work. But at the same time i'm appreciative i have a job

You have to isolate until you receive your results which can be up to 3 days. My last test took 2 days 3 weeks ago.

i see. I think one of my mates who works @Optus told me people were abusing it.

Been hella busy for us in the education industry but some staff haven't come into work since Feb/March.

One lady got permission to work remotely from Korea....

I have no doubt that it is an easy day off for people. Though when I got my last test, which was on a Monday, took 3 hrs lining up to get the test.
 
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1201408) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1201383) said:
Ive been watching the NSW cases closely for a few weeks now. I think (touch wood) they are doing a fantastic job and seemingly have it under control. Whilst new cases seem to be doggedly sitting at 10-15 new cases a day, the total number of active cases has started to drop.

Our contact tracers have done an amazing job and we are still at a critical point but that is what has kept this under control and is a primary difference to what occurred in Victoria. A good stat to keep an eye that doesn't really get discussed is the amount of days between the exposure and the warning from NSW Health, for example when Penrith Plaza had an infected person the announcement from NSW Health came 5 days later. The lower the better as it means the contact tracers are on top of this and 5 days seems to be a pretty good result.

There also seems to be an issue with the population in Victoria taking this seriously as can be seen by the Karen like incidents, this sort of attitude seems to be more prevalent in Victoria for some reason.

If anyone was doing to stuff things up it was going to be the Victorians. The abandonment of science based anything is rife down there.
 
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1201512) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1201408) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1201383) said:
Ive been watching the NSW cases closely for a few weeks now. I think (touch wood) they are doing a fantastic job and seemingly have it under control. Whilst new cases seem to be doggedly sitting at 10-15 new cases a day, the total number of active cases has started to drop.

Our contact tracers have done an amazing job and we are still at a critical point but that is what has kept this under control and is a primary difference to what occurred in Victoria. A good stat to keep an eye that doesn't really get discussed is the amount of days between the exposure and the warning from NSW Health, for example when Penrith Plaza had an infected person the announcement from NSW Health came 5 days later. The lower the better as it means the contact tracers are on top of this and 5 days seems to be a pretty good result.

There also seems to be an issue with the population in Victoria taking this seriously as can be seen by the Karen like incidents, this sort of attitude seems to be more prevalent in Victoria for some reason.

If anyone was doing to stuff things up it was going to be the Victorians. The abandonment of science based anything is rife down there.

I have been wondering what it is that has led to that belief being more prevalent down there.
 
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1201514) said:
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1201512) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1201408) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1201383) said:
Ive been watching the NSW cases closely for a few weeks now. I think (touch wood) they are doing a fantastic job and seemingly have it under control. Whilst new cases seem to be doggedly sitting at 10-15 new cases a day, the total number of active cases has started to drop.

Our contact tracers have done an amazing job and we are still at a critical point but that is what has kept this under control and is a primary difference to what occurred in Victoria. A good stat to keep an eye that doesn't really get discussed is the amount of days between the exposure and the warning from NSW Health, for example when Penrith Plaza had an infected person the announcement from NSW Health came 5 days later. The lower the better as it means the contact tracers are on top of this and 5 days seems to be a pretty good result.

There also seems to be an issue with the population in Victoria taking this seriously as can be seen by the Karen like incidents, this sort of attitude seems to be more prevalent in Victoria for some reason.

If anyone was doing to stuff things up it was going to be the Victorians. The abandonment of science based anything is rife down there.

I have been wondering what it is that has led to that belief being more prevalent down there.

Poor leadership?
 
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1201522) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1201514) said:
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1201512) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1201408) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1201383) said:
Ive been watching the NSW cases closely for a few weeks now. I think (touch wood) they are doing a fantastic job and seemingly have it under control. Whilst new cases seem to be doggedly sitting at 10-15 new cases a day, the total number of active cases has started to drop.

Our contact tracers have done an amazing job and we are still at a critical point but that is what has kept this under control and is a primary difference to what occurred in Victoria. A good stat to keep an eye that doesn't really get discussed is the amount of days between the exposure and the warning from NSW Health, for example when Penrith Plaza had an infected person the announcement from NSW Health came 5 days later. The lower the better as it means the contact tracers are on top of this and 5 days seems to be a pretty good result.

There also seems to be an issue with the population in Victoria taking this seriously as can be seen by the Karen like incidents, this sort of attitude seems to be more prevalent in Victoria for some reason.

If anyone was doing to stuff things up it was going to be the Victorians. The abandonment of science based anything is rife down there.

I have been wondering what it is that has led to that belief being more prevalent down there.

Poor leadership?

I think it is more than that though, there seems to be a stronger anti-vaxxer, anti authority element down there than up here.
 
@trentrunciman said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1201422) said:
anyone else feeling stressed at work because of staff using Covid as a ruse to not go to work?

All the full timers at my work been doing nothing compared to the casual staff who aren't paid if they dont come to work...

i had to take a week stress leave because of the new semester at University and students getting angry cause there were no staff to help them...

Unfortunately university enterprise agreements protect bludging morons and hard workers alike. I work at a uni too and sick leave is a challenge at the best of times.
 
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1201526) said:
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1201522) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1201514) said:
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1201512) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1201408) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1201383) said:
Ive been watching the NSW cases closely for a few weeks now. I think (touch wood) they are doing a fantastic job and seemingly have it under control. Whilst new cases seem to be doggedly sitting at 10-15 new cases a day, the total number of active cases has started to drop.

Our contact tracers have done an amazing job and we are still at a critical point but that is what has kept this under control and is a primary difference to what occurred in Victoria. A good stat to keep an eye that doesn't really get discussed is the amount of days between the exposure and the warning from NSW Health, for example when Penrith Plaza had an infected person the announcement from NSW Health came 5 days later. The lower the better as it means the contact tracers are on top of this and 5 days seems to be a pretty good result.

There also seems to be an issue with the population in Victoria taking this seriously as can be seen by the Karen like incidents, this sort of attitude seems to be more prevalent in Victoria for some reason.

If anyone was doing to stuff things up it was going to be the Victorians. The abandonment of science based anything is rife down there.

I have been wondering what it is that has led to that belief being more prevalent down there.

Poor leadership?

I think it is more than that though, there seems to be a stronger anti-vaxxer, anti authority element down there than up here.

I don't think that's correct Cochise, I grew up in Sydney and I've lived in WA, Qld and now Victoria. Generally speaking, I haven't noticed that much difference between community attitudes regardless of where I've lived in Australia.

With the quarantine stuff up the disease got back out into the community and started to spread before the health authorities were aware of it. It got the jump on them. If that had happened anywhere else I think you would have seen the same sort of reactions that have occurred in Victoria.

The vast majority of people down here are complying with instructions and doing it quite willingly. But with social media now, it magnifies the actions of a very minor but active group of people and it makes it appear as though their attitudes are more widespread than they are.

Whereas, in fact, they're just a few dickheads looking for their 15 minutes of fame.
 
@tigger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1201582) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1201526) said:
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1201522) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1201514) said:
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1201512) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1201408) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1201383) said:
Ive been watching the NSW cases closely for a few weeks now. I think (touch wood) they are doing a fantastic job and seemingly have it under control. Whilst new cases seem to be doggedly sitting at 10-15 new cases a day, the total number of active cases has started to drop.

Our contact tracers have done an amazing job and we are still at a critical point but that is what has kept this under control and is a primary difference to what occurred in Victoria. A good stat to keep an eye that doesn't really get discussed is the amount of days between the exposure and the warning from NSW Health, for example when Penrith Plaza had an infected person the announcement from NSW Health came 5 days later. The lower the better as it means the contact tracers are on top of this and 5 days seems to be a pretty good result.

There also seems to be an issue with the population in Victoria taking this seriously as can be seen by the Karen like incidents, this sort of attitude seems to be more prevalent in Victoria for some reason.

If anyone was doing to stuff things up it was going to be the Victorians. The abandonment of science based anything is rife down there.

I have been wondering what it is that has led to that belief being more prevalent down there.

Poor leadership?

I think it is more than that though, there seems to be a stronger anti-vaxxer, anti authority element down there than up here.

I don't think that's correct Cochise, I grew up in Sydney and I've lived in WA, Qld and now Victoria. Generally speaking, I haven't noticed that much difference between community attitudes regardless of where I've lived in Australia.

With the quarantine stuff up the disease got back out into the community and started to spread before the health authorities were aware of it. It got the jump on them. If that had happened anywhere else I think you would have seen the same sort of reactions that have occurred in Victoria.

The vast majority of people down here are complying with instructions and doing it quite willingly. But with social media now, it magnifies the actions of a very minor but active group of people and it makes it appear as though their attitudes are more widespread than they are.

Whereas, in fact, they're just a few dickheads looking for their 15 minutes of fame.

You are probably right mate, just hate that attitude and can't believe people are still acting like that in the crisis that Vic is facing.
 
I certainly hope that there will be more cooperation with the Victorian enquiry than there is by some with those investigating the Ruby Princess debacle. Especially, as unlike the quarantine hotel issue seemingly being of individual citizens having sex, the devastation from the cruise ship was as a result of governmental level decisions.
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@Jedi_Tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1201524) said:
Doona Dan is a goose that has not helped down there

I think it’s been more about the messaging then outright policies/politics
From his pressers he seemed to be talking down to the people and I felt throughout it felt like he was blaming the populace at every stage , whereas when I was listening to Gladys she just keeps reinforcing good practices
 
Panthers coach Ivan Cleary wouldn't be drawn on Bennett's indiscretion but added the period of confusion had ended at least a month ago.

"I'm not going to dump on Wayne, ***it is what it is***," Cleary said.


At least Ivan took something out of being here.
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@Rugba said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1198297) said:
@Jedi_Tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1198213) said:
newton is woke central

Ssshhh can’t use that word , didn’t you read apparently it’s trying to be cool using woke

I'm awoke to what you're trying to do.
 
@formerguest said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1201839) said:
I certainly hope that there will be more cooperation with the Victorian enquiry than there is by some with those investigating the Ruby Princess debacle. Especially, as unlike the quarantine hotel issue seemingly being of individual citizens having sex, the devastation from the cruise ship was as a result of governmental level decisions.
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What is the motivation for not allowing the Farce officers to appear?

SAS apparently can be called to account, why not these officials?
 
I've said before that this pandemic is uncovering a number of underlying issues.

The problems in Melbourne have arisen largely in the North Eastern suburbs, which are generally lower socio-economic areas. It seems that many of the people who were not at home following positive tests had in fact gone to work.

I must admit that I haven't seen any data to support this claim but, given the casualisation of the work force in general terms, it is not at all improbable that many of these people had no sick leave and/or were going to work from fear of losing their jobs. It doesn't excuse their actions but might go some way to explaining them.

I'm not sure that the movement away from permanent to casual work has been a good thing for us as a society. It also had a part to play in the rapid spread of the disease through aged care centres.

I hope that it's one of the issues in the mix when we get to reflect on how we handled this crisis.
 
@tigger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1201861) said:
I've said before that this pandemic is uncovering a number of underlying issues.

The problems in Melbourne have arisen largely in the North Eastern suburbs, which are generally lower socio-economic areas. It seems that many of the people who were not at home following positive tests had in fact gone to work.

I must admit that I haven't seen any data to support this claim but, given the casualisation of the work force in general terms, it is not at all improbable that many of these people had no sick leave and/or were going to work from fear of losing their jobs. It doesn't excuse their actions but might go some way to explaining them.

I'm not sure that the movement away from permanent to casual work has been a good thing for us as a society. It also had a part to play in the rapid spread of the disease through aged care centres.

I hope that it's one of the issues in the mix when we get to reflect on how we handled this crisis.

Absolutely that is a factor. No safety net in permanent employment and benefits means people who do not work, do not get paid and go without. It's forcing people to make poor decisions in where they place the livelihoods/welfare of themselves and families over those of others.
 
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