Coronavirus Outbreak

[earl]

I would follow health advice and tell Fuller to do his job and to get over his power trip.

It's not as simple as this though. They have a lockdown on. Dr Chant is not just agreeing with all these measures she is actively promoting it. If she doesn't represent health who does ?

 

[hobbo1]

Atlanta Falcons first NFL team to have 100% of the players vaccinated. We should use them to motivate the people here to get vaccinated.

Never heard of them !
Should I have ?

 

[pawsandclaws1]

What is happening in the West, South West and Nepean is the result of the failure to lockdown Bondi and other areas following the positive result of the limo driver.

 

[Merlot]

dumbest thing we could do 2 get out of this is take the advice of the USA.

 

[Pascoes_barber]

At the same time we don't want to be like America and risk losing 10%+ of our population.
America lost 590k with is just under 20% of their population. If you put that into the population of NSW that 500'000+ and our medical practices will be overwhelmed.

Wait, what?

I agree wholeheartedly that we don't want to be like the US, but they've lost around **0.2%** of their population if my calculations are correct (~640,000 deaths from a population of ~328,000,000).

So many of those were preventable too. 🙁

 

[Pascoes_barber]

Atlanta Falcons first NFL team to have 100% of the players vaccinated. We should use them to motivate the people here to get vaccinated.

Never heard of them !
Should I have ?

According to the FOX Sports journos several of their players (and coach) have been 'linked' with Wests Tigers.

 

[TheDaBoss]

Atlanta Falcons first NFL team to have 100% of the players vaccinated. We should use them to motivate the people here to get vaccinated.

Never heard of them !
Should I have ?

According to the FOX Sports journos several of their players (and coach) have been 'linked' with Wests Tigers.

Merge incomming

 

[mike]

I would follow health advice and tell Fuller to do his job and to get over his power trip.

It's not as simple as this though. They have a lockdown on. Dr Chant is not just agreeing with all these measures she is actively promoting it. If she doesn't represent health who does ?

But it is. It is the worst of times that you find out what people and institutions are made of. Fuller has failed miserably. The police already had all the power they needed to enforce lock downs. We are now entering the territory of pseudo martial law, where the police are making the rules and doing the enforcing, all the while not being accountable for their actions. That is not a democracy.

 

[earl]

dumbest thing we could do 2 get out of this is take the advice of the USA.

https://www.health.gov.au/resources/publications/doherty-institute-modelling-report-to-advise-on-the-national-plan-to-transition-australias-national-covid-response

Mate - the government used an Australian institute. You could call it a think tank if you want to sound like a wally.

https://www.doherty.edu.au/news-events/news/doherty-institute-modelling-report-for-national-cabinet

 

[earl]

What is happening in the West, South West and Nepean is the result of the failure to lockdown Bondi and other areas following the positive result of the limo driver.

Agreed but it's in the past. It was also going to happen at some point.

 

[Blacknwhite]

For mine, a big line was crossed when the NSW Police Commissioner gave officers free reign to issue fines with no accountability:

https://www.smh.com.au/national/police-commissioner-says-officers-wrongly-issuing-tickets-won-t-be-held-to-account-20210819-p58k76.html

We're all trying to play by the rules. Coppers shouldn't have some special exemption.

At the moment the environment that is being created is that the police are above the law.

Very true. I have zero regard for Mick Fuller as being anything other than a dinosaur relic of eras past when Police were meant to be feared, not respected. In fact, he has stated as much, publicly.

I've witnessed some of my community members, not just stopped by Police in unmarked cars to check on their reasons for being away from home, but also subjected to body searches - patted down after emptying pockets, bags searched and cars searched. A massive overreach by emboldened Police following the direction of Fuller to "go hard" and abandon the concept of "community policing".

They know they will not be held to account for their actions. Fuller said so.

It is outrageous.

But, what can we expect from the leadership of a compromised and dodgy Premier, an arrogant and bullying Health Minister and a Police Minister who struggles to put a coherent sentence together?

We get Mick Fuller flexing muscle and allowing his "force" to do the same under some spurious claim that it will reduce community transmission of the virus.

This is as serious a public health and wellbeing issue as I have ever experienced in my 62 years on the planet.

And, just when we need accountable, timely and responsive leadership by those in positions to make it better for us, we get a shambolic, incoherent, divisive, ineffective and politically driven strategy of pitting one part of Sydney/the State against the other and blaming individuals in those "LGAs of concern" for increasing levels of infection and transmission.

It is outrageous. Nothing more, nothing less.

if people are too stupid to get on the page when things are explained on a reasonable human level, then screw them.

I have lived in what are now the hottest of zones for the best part of 40yrs... People around here obviously have a penchant for windex, I am surrounded by window lickers of the highest order.

Truth be told, I am an essential worker apparently, yet every day I leave my home, and return to a different car parked on the street in front of my house. I know the vehicles of my neighbours... where are these things coming from?

I have police with army green escorts at our local shops...

Explain yourself, and a strip search is worth these muppets figuring out its not worth the effort to skirt the rules... nothing to hide, nothing to lose! I grew up in Berala, and wouldnt be joking if I said, after school, hanging around the train station had my name taken by cops twice a week, more likely more.

Boo hoo, getting searched during a pandemic, such is life, harden up!

 

[earl]

I would follow health advice and tell Fuller to do his job and to get over his power trip.

It's not as simple as this though. They have a lockdown on. Dr Chant is not just agreeing with all these measures she is actively promoting it. If she doesn't represent health who does ?

But it is. It is the worst of times that you find out what people and institutions are made of. Fuller has failed miserably. The police already had all the power they needed to enforce lock downs. We are now entering the territory of pseudo martial law, where the police are making the rules and doing the enforcing, all the while not being accountable for their actions. That is not a democracy.

I don't see it like this.

This is the way I see it.

1. The lockdown sucks but I'm good. My behavior hasn't changed at any point and the new restrictions and police powers don't impact me one little bit.
2. If we get over this and the rules go back to what they were I don't care.
3. If we get the case numbers down I don't care.
4. If I was managing this it'd be a disaster.

 

[mike]

I would follow health advice and tell Fuller to do his job and to get over his power trip.

It's not as simple as this though. They have a lockdown on. Dr Chant is not just agreeing with all these measures she is actively promoting it. If she doesn't represent health who does ?

But it is. It is the worst of times that you find out what people and institutions are made of. Fuller has failed miserably. The police already had all the power they needed to enforce lock downs. We are now entering the territory of pseudo martial law, where the police are making the rules and doing the enforcing, all the while not being accountable for their actions. That is not a democracy.

I don't see it like this.

This is the way I see it.

1. The lockdown sucks but I'm good. My behavior hasn't changed at any point and the new restrictions and police powers don't impact me one little bit.
2. If we get over this and the rules go back to what they were I don't care.
3. If we get the case numbers down I don't care.
4. If I was managing this it'd be a disaster.

Then we disagree.

 

[earl]

Boo hoo, getting searched during a pandemic, such is life, harden up!

Exactly.

 

[Pascoes_barber]

Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest.

 

[Jedi_Tiger]

aaahh the good old days when police were feared,not bashed by scum that dont like being civil,

the days of the "flying squads"

 

[old_man_tiger]

Several weeks late, and I'm still concerned that every time we walk past the swings near us my 2 year old cries because he isn't allowed to play and there are 3 other families having a grand old time without masks.

Concerned that Gladys said this is it, they won't go harder. You do what needs to be done or you let someone else lead.

 

[Demps]

Wot about the smarty who tried to cross the qld border with 140 kg s of pot , most say he is a dope

@hobbo1 ?

 

[Tim Sheens]

Several weeks late, and I'm still concerned that every time we walk past the swings near us my 2 year old cries because he isn't allowed to play and there are 3 other families having a grand old time without masks.

Concerned that Gladys said this is it, they won't go harder. You do what needs to be done or you let someone else lead.

Tough on him and hard enough getting through to a two year old at the best of times.

 

[Snake]

aaahh the good old days when police were feared,not bashed by scum that dont like being civil,

The 21 squad came knocking watch out … all the fools deliberately braking the health law advise would be soughted in a couple of days . They were a feared group of men .