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@Geo said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132902) said:
@Snake said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132899) said:
@formerguest said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132892) said:
@jadtiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132868) said:
@GNR4LIFE said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132866) said:
It’s obvious Col doesn’t read this thread. He’d be all over some of these posts ?

Thats probably because he has not read yet that Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon now considers it to be a problem

Not much worse than **#liarfrom the shire** pretending that his children were going to school, whilst telling us constituents that our kids should be going to school as it is best for the nation.

Like him or not personally I think things are going to get very serious very quickly and I just hope our Prime Minister has what it takes to guide the country through this... as the last time I looked he is the head of our country .
What ever political persuasion you are it is time to stand as one because we are at War with an enemy that is going to kill many we love and decimate us financially ... call the Prime Minister what you like but he is all you have at this minute In time !

No one seems to be listening to him ..he told everyone to Stop it...

Geo In the not to distant future they will be listening I can assure you! When the lock down comes that will be the trigger that is when the real panic sets in !
And that’s when they will listen .
 
Snake oil salesmen have more credibility than Scamo and his crew but it is all we have at the moment.Hopefully his bosom buddy upstairs makes a miracle appearance because i cant see any politician on the planet with the answer
 
@Regan said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132900) said:
Hi on your model does it predict 14000 cases by Tuesday what’s some of what I was told this morning

We need to calm down. That prediction is over the top. We are at 877 today. It's not doubling every day.

At the same time we need to stop the "she'll be right" attitude. If we don't stop this we will end up like Europe.
 
@Geo said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132902) said:
@Snake said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132899) said:
@formerguest said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132892) said:
@jadtiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132868) said:
@GNR4LIFE said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132866) said:
It’s obvious Col doesn’t read this thread. He’d be all over some of these posts ?

Thats probably because he has not read yet that Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon now considers it to be a problem

Not much worse than **#liarfrom the shire** pretending that his children were going to school, whilst telling us constituents that our kids should be going to school as it is best for the nation.

Like him or not personally I think things are going to get very serious very quickly and I just hope our Prime Minister has what it takes to guide the country through this... as the last time I looked he is the head of our country .
What ever political persuasion you are it is time to stand as one because we are at War with an enemy that is going to kill many we love and decimate us financially ... call the Prime Minister what you like but he is all you have at this minute In time !

No one seems to be listening to him ..he told everyone to Stop it...

I agree with not politicizing this issue but that is how some people roll. He is telling people to stop but will we as a society listen.
 
@Earl said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132911) said:
@Geo said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132902) said:
@Snake said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132899) said:
@formerguest said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132892) said:
@jadtiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132868) said:
@GNR4LIFE said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132866) said:
It’s obvious Col doesn’t read this thread. He’d be all over some of these posts ?

Thats probably because he has not read yet that Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon now considers it to be a problem

Not much worse than **#liarfrom the shire** pretending that his children were going to school, whilst telling us constituents that our kids should be going to school as it is best for the nation.

Like him or not personally I think things are going to get very serious very quickly and I just hope our Prime Minister has what it takes to guide the country through this... as the last time I looked he is the head of our country .
What ever political persuasion you are it is time to stand as one because we are at War with an enemy that is going to kill many we love and decimate us financially ... call the Prime Minister what you like but he is all you have at this minute In time !

No one seems to be listening to him ..he told everyone to Stop it...

I agree with not politicizing this issue but that is how some people roll. He is telling people to stop but will we as a society listen.

No society doesn't listen. I think we live in the most selfish time in history. The old do what it takes to stop it........but just make sure it doesn't affect my life. Some people, in fact a lot of people need to wake up and realise sometimes you have to sacrifice a little to gain a lot.
 
@Snake said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132899) said:
@formerguest said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132892) said:
@jadtiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132868) said:
@GNR4LIFE said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132866) said:
It’s obvious Col doesn’t read this thread. He’d be all over some of these posts ?

Thats probably because he has not read yet that Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon now considers it to be a problem

Not much worse than **#liarfrom the shire** pretending that his children were going to school, whilst telling us constituents that our kids should be going to school as it is best for the nation.

Like him or not personally I think things are going to get very serious very quickly and I just hope our Prime Minister has what it takes to guide the country through this... as the last time I looked he is the head of our country .
What ever political persuasion you are it is time to stand as one because we are at War with an enemy that is going to kill many we love and decimate us financially ... call the Prime Minister what you like but he is all you have at this minute In time !

Don't disagree and don't envy the role that a leader has to play, but whomever seeks to fill such roles must not lie to their constituents, especially so in troubled times and particularly when in regards to our children.

Practicing what you preach and the leader has to set the example.
 
The PM's "Stop It" statement is up there with the most cringeworthy statements I've seen from a politician. He sounded like a kid getting picked on in the playground.

I can't imagine Obama addressing the nation with such a whiny pathetic statement.
 
@weststigers said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132844) said:
Going forward, even if we get our cases to zero, how do you prevent people from bringing it back in the next day? It’s a tough question.

The point we are at it is highly unlikely we eradicate this from Australia, which is why a complete lockdown is being avoided!
 
@Papacito said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132917) said:
The PM's "Stop It" statement is up there with the most cringeworthy statements I've seen from a politician. He sounded like a kid getting picked on in the playground.

I can't imagine Obama addressing the nation with such a whiny pathetic statement.

I don’t like him, but idk what was wrong with saying it. It’s the truth. People are insane and need to be told. Not that they will listen. Too dumb.
 
@GNR4LIFE said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132919) said:
@Papacito said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132917) said:
The PM's "Stop It" statement is up there with the most cringeworthy statements I've seen from a politician. He sounded like a kid getting picked on in the playground.

I can't imagine Obama addressing the nation with such a whiny pathetic statement.

I don’t like him, but idk what was wrong with saying it. It’s the truth. People are insane and need to be told. Not that they will listen. Too dumb.

Exactly. It was to the point. Can't be any clearer really, but again, people do not listen.
 
@Earl said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132855) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132840) said:
@formerguest said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132839) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132835) said:
@formerguest said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132832) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132831) said:
@JD-Tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132829) said:
@formerguest said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132823) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132793) said:
@formerguest said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132768) said:
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Mate, you can relax a little (not a lot but some). What you are looking at is a graph of exponential growth. What you need to understand is that depending on the scale of the x and y axis, EVERY exponential graph looks the same, it is the nature of exponential growth. Its a mathematical phenomenon. You will note that the x axis of both graphs is similar but the y axis is wildly different. Depending on what scale you have on that graph, any exponential graph can be identical.

I have been tracking this mathematically for two weeks and it IS growing exponentially unfortunately ( the peak is getting near when the exponential growth is broken) but not all exponential growth is the same. Exponential growth simply means that each data is multiplied by the same each time and it therefore grows exponentially (not linear). Ours is currently growing at an exponential rate of between 1.2 - 1.25 per day. Italy was way more.

This is a better graph to understand is on this page https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/03/covid19-coronavirus-countries-infection-trajectory/ which enables you to track each country over time. Today is our 10th day since having 100 people and we have 876 confirmed cases. 10 days after 100 cases, Italy had 5202 cases. Its not even close.

I could have posted that, but it is a bit hard for many to read, plus because of the schedule of outbreaks and that it does not take the very much differing travel and/or internal restriction parameters for the individual countries, along with the more affected regions within them into account, so as such, along with the testing regimes, I find it to be an inaccurate comparison.

If the parameters were remotely even, then I would definitely go with that one, but on the basis that it is far from that, I find it just as, if not more misleading than the others that are simply date based with an even scale.

I expect that time with it's education from other's experience, along with our hospital system, will allow us to avert such horrendous death percentages, but current lack of restriction will have our confirmed case numbers ballooning similarly in the coming weeks. Either way, we will soon find out who is closer to the mark and can revisit it then.

Edit; I truly hope that we can keep cases under 10k in the next fortnight and having read your subsequent post, I also noticed that many seriously affected nations were going on a downward trajectory and Australia is pretty well constant. Would love a slide over it showing when restrictions were brought in, so that I could also evaluate on that basis.

To keep numbers low in the coming fortnight, wouldn't we have to be undertaking effective isolation measures when it's contagious which is now, which of course we aren't.

So many people don't see it, should the government try to scare them into being more careful? The perception seems to be that only the older people will die, so those that aren't in that category don't care. Maybe let them know younger people die too. (Though I don't know if that's true?)

Younger people have been dying in Italy once the health system became overloaded!

That is also a concern, though hopefully mitigation measures are already being rolled out to prevent that scenario.

Though like @JD-Tiger above the lack of restrictions concerns me, with Italy having gone into full lockdown 10 days (11 now seeing it is morning) ago, whilst it's problem northern regions were closed down nearly a week earlier. Yet only now we are (hopefully) seeing their peak death numbers play out now despite such measures.

I am also worried about our lack of testing when juxtaposed with the better outcome in a northern town there with great testing rates that has become basically clear, along with that of Singapore.

Testing limitations were unavoidable though but hopefully with the designing of tests in Australia that use different components we should see testing broadened. A complete lockdown will be devastating here and locking down early in the piece will see you locked down for much longer as it only takes a couple of new cases and you are going to see the numbers rise again. The issue here is getting people to take the restrictions we have seriously as social distancing, isolation of unwell people and virtual lockdown of at risk people can work in slowing the spread to a manageable rate!

Reckon that unavoidable is a big stretch, with warnings about testing being sounded a couple of months ago. Can certainly agree on the current restrictions and people being faithful to them, just think that their levels have been and still are a week or more behind where they need to be.

So how do you source the required components when every country in the world is trying to source the same resources?

I doubt we can test like South Korea has unless we somehow get this under control now. Vaccines aren't produced quickly. We need to improve how we produce vaccines. We need to react more quickly to these events.

Most importantly though we need to practice social distancing. I reckon this is our only hope but I'm not sure enough people get this.

Correct, but I have noticed an improvement in social distancing in the last couple of days, I spent yesterday driving all of Sydney and most places were empty and people were keeping apart. I then made it to Bondi and Coogee and it was almost as busy as usual and people were crowded around each other!
 
@Furious1 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132924) said:
@GNR4LIFE said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132919) said:
@Papacito said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132917) said:
The PM's "Stop It" statement is up there with the most cringeworthy statements I've seen from a politician. He sounded like a kid getting picked on in the playground.

I can't imagine Obama addressing the nation with such a whiny pathetic statement.

I don’t like him, but idk what was wrong with saying it. It’s the truth. People are insane and need to be told. Not that they will listen. Too dumb.

Exactly. It was to the point. Can't be any clearer really, but again, people do not listen.

Like the bushfires, we was way too late on this one.

Regardless of whether it's a really problem, the average punter has been seeing empty shelves for months and sees it as a problem.

He didn't really say much either, other than a pathetic plead.

If you can't tell, I'm not his biggest fan 🙂
 
@Papacito said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132927) said:
@Furious1 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132924) said:
@GNR4LIFE said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132919) said:
@Papacito said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132917) said:
The PM's "Stop It" statement is up there with the most cringeworthy statements I've seen from a politician. He sounded like a kid getting picked on in the playground.

I can't imagine Obama addressing the nation with such a whiny pathetic statement.

I don’t like him, but idk what was wrong with saying it. It’s the truth. People are insane and need to be told. Not that they will listen. Too dumb.

Exactly. It was to the point. Can't be any clearer really, but again, people do not listen.

Like the bushfires, we was way too late on this one.

Regardless of whether it's a really problem, the average punter has been seeing empty shelves for months and sees it as a problem.

He didn't really say much either, other than a pathetic plead.

**If you can't tell, I'm not his biggest fan 🙂**

Clearly lol. As for the bushfires........people still don't realise, the STATES run the fire services. Didn't you see RFS Commish get his nose out of joint when Scomo took over. Anyway, this is not the thread for it, thats political crap.

As for the plead, maybe people should have listened, then there would be toilet paper on the shelf. Really Papa, you've got to ask the question, why do people think they are going to use the toilet so much more all of a sudden? Imbeciles.
 
@Furious1 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132931) said:
@Papacito said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132927) said:
@Furious1 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132924) said:
@GNR4LIFE said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132919) said:
@Papacito said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132917) said:
The PM's "Stop It" statement is up there with the most cringeworthy statements I've seen from a politician. He sounded like a kid getting picked on in the playground.

I can't imagine Obama addressing the nation with such a whiny pathetic statement.

I don’t like him, but idk what was wrong with saying it. It’s the truth. People are insane and need to be told. Not that they will listen. Too dumb.

Exactly. It was to the point. Can't be any clearer really, but again, people do not listen.

Like the bushfires, we was way too late on this one.

Regardless of whether it's a really problem, the average punter has been seeing empty shelves for months and sees it as a problem.

He didn't really say much either, other than a pathetic plead.

**If you can't tell, I'm not his biggest fan 🙂**

Clearly lol. As for the bushfires........people still don't realise, the STATES run the fire services. Didn't you see RFS Commish get his nose out of joint when Scomo took over. Anyway, this is not the thread for it, thats political crap.

As for the plead, maybe people should have listened, then there would be toilet paper on the shelf. Really Papa, you've got to ask the question, why do people think they are going to use the toilet so much more all of a sudden? Imbeciles.

I agree that the hoarding is silly and should stop.

The people that are doing it have most likely heard this too. But they keep doing it.

An "Awww, please stop it" won't do anything.
 
@Papacito said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132927) said:
@Furious1 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132924) said:
@GNR4LIFE said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132919) said:
@Papacito said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132917) said:
The PM's "Stop It" statement is up there with the most cringeworthy statements I've seen from a politician. He sounded like a kid getting picked on in the playground.

I can't imagine Obama addressing the nation with such a whiny pathetic statement.

I don’t like him, but idk what was wrong with saying it. It’s the truth. People are insane and need to be told. Not that they will listen. Too dumb.

Exactly. It was to the point. Can't be any clearer really, but again, people do not listen.

Like the bushfires, we was way too late on this one.

Regardless of whether it's a really problem, the average punter has been seeing empty shelves for months and sees it as a problem.

He didn't really say much either, other than a pathetic plead.

If you can't tell, I'm not his biggest fan 🙂


Try to not let it cloud your judgement
 
The media keep posting confirmed case numbers but rarely post these numbers against those who've had it (within australia) and are over the virus. This will give us the true curve that we need to watch. We need to be vigilant but some idiotic reporter on the ABC stated that we will loose over 150000 Australians to this virus. That is such an irresponsible claim to make at this stage and is the reason why people are act8ng crazy. Fear sells news stories.
 
@formerguest said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132892) said:
@jadtiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132868) said:
@GNR4LIFE said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132866) said:
It’s obvious Col doesn’t read this thread. He’d be all over some of these posts ?

Thats probably because he has not read yet that Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon now considers it to be a problem

Not much worse than **#liarfrom the shire** pretending that his children were going to school, whilst telling us constituents that our kids should be going to school as it is best for the nation.

I haven't read whether or not he has pulled his kids out of school, but in all fairness, it makes sense if he has and I think most leaders would do the same.

His kids are likely to be harassed with questions or bullied given the current situation.

The advice he is following is from medical authorities. Maybe you're problem is with them?
 
@twentyforty said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132935) said:
@Papacito said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132927) said:
@Furious1 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132924) said:
@GNR4LIFE said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132919) said:
@Papacito said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132917) said:
The PM's "Stop It" statement is up there with the most cringeworthy statements I've seen from a politician. He sounded like a kid getting picked on in the playground.

I can't imagine Obama addressing the nation with such a whiny pathetic statement.

I don’t like him, but idk what was wrong with saying it. It’s the truth. People are insane and need to be told. Not that they will listen. Too dumb.

Exactly. It was to the point. Can't be any clearer really, but again, people do not listen.

Like the bushfires, we was way too late on this one.

Regardless of whether it's a really problem, the average punter has been seeing empty shelves for months and sees it as a problem.

He didn't really say much either, other than a pathetic plead.

If you can't tell, I'm not his biggest fan 🙂


Try to not let it cloud your judgement

If you like the Prime Minister can have Military personnel with automatic weapons at the Supermarket doors if you like .. maybe trying to talk to an imbecilic population was a starting point but if that fails go straight to plan B ! Would that be whiny and pathetic?
 
@weststigers said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132938) said:
@formerguest said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132892) said:
@jadtiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132868) said:
@GNR4LIFE said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132866) said:
It’s obvious Col doesn’t read this thread. He’d be all over some of these posts ?

Thats probably because he has not read yet that Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon now considers it to be a problem

Not much worse than **#liarfrom the shire** pretending that his children were going to school, whilst telling us constituents that our kids should be going to school as it is best for the nation.

I haven't read whether or not he has pulled his kids out of school, but in all fairness, it makes sense if he has and I think most leaders would do the same.

His kids are likely to be harassed with questions or bullied given the current situation.

The advice he is following is from medical authorities. Maybe you're problem is with them?

They are the first family and need to be protected that goes with the job always has been always will be !
 
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