Coronavirus Outbreak

[TrueTiger]

Im not worried one bit about this flu like virus

I hope you are right. I'm telling my wife that this is what it now appears to be like and we just need to relax. The data is backing this assessment up right now but there has to be a massive risk and it's a risk in relation to people's lives.

BUT EARL it appears it is no greater threat than the seasonal flu we get and have got for hundreds of years,its a play by big pharma to make huge dollars...
look at it this way..since this scamdemic has appeared.
big pharma has made billions of dollars,GATES,FAUCCI ETC who are the main stakeholders have also pumped millions in to media,have shares in the hand sanitisers,have shares in the PCR testing equiptment and Gates is the MAJOR DONOR to the WHO....join the dots mate...

So all the talk about the majority in hospitals being Unvaxxed is a myth?

Absolutely ....the vaxxed are in the hospitals with adverse reactions....dont forget what came out of the Newcastle nightclub....all fully vaxxed staff and patrons..
Also the cruise ship 3200 people all staff and customers fully vaxxed,18/20 covid cases...NO UNVAXXED PEOPLE WERE ALLOWED IN......

 

[swag_tiger]

Ok, I’ll do one.

What do the pro vax and anti vax have in common?

They can go the the pub!!!!! :golfer:

 

[leichhardtjunior]

Ok, I’ll do one.

What do the pro vax and anti vax have in common?

They can go the the pub!!!!! :golfer:

I’ll drink to that Swag ?

 

[swag_tiger]

Im not worried one bit about this flu like virus

I hope you are right. I'm telling my wife that this is what it now appears to be like and we just need to relax. The data is backing this assessment up right now but there has to be a massive risk and it's a risk in relation to people's lives.

BUT EARL it appears it is no greater threat than the seasonal flu we get and have got for hundreds of years,its a play by big pharma to make huge dollars...
look at it this way..since this scamdemic has appeared.
big pharma has made billions of dollars,GATES,FAUCCI ETC who are the main stakeholders have also pumped millions in to media,have shares in the hand sanitisers,have shares in the PCR testing equiptment and Gates is the MAJOR DONOR to the WHO....join the dots mate...

So all the talk about the majority in hospitals being Unvaxxed is a myth?

Absolutely ....the vaxxed are in the hospitals with adverse reactions....dont forget what came out of the Newcastle nightclub....all fully vaxxed staff and patrons..
Also the cruise ship 3200 people all staff and customers fully vaxxed,18/20 covid cases...NO UNVAXXED PEOPLE WERE ALLOWED IN......

You must know someone from inside the front linewith all this undisputed information you are getting.

 

[earl]

S.A had 11 % national vaccination and were doing extremely well.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

South Africa:- 1,493 deaths per million people.
Australia:- 82 deaths per million people.

They aren't doing terribly on a world scale but you gotta put it into perspective.

I like the stats and the data. You get a subjective decision on how to judge that data.

I will add that we are a currently a guinea pig country in relation to high vaccines minimizing the harm of Omicron. Without meaning to belittle people's lives it'll be interesting how the unvaccinated hold up compared to the vaccinated.

The vaccines (and some restrictions) saved us with delta. I'm not stating they are going to save us with Omicron because maybe you don't even require the vaccine with Omicron.

 

[TrueTiger]

Im not worried one bit about this flu like virus

I hope you are right. I'm telling my wife that this is what it now appears to be like and we just need to relax. The data is backing this assessment up right now but there has to be a massive risk and it's a risk in relation to people's lives.

BUT EARL it appears it is no greater threat than the seasonal flu we get and have got for hundreds of years,its a play by big pharma to make huge dollars...
look at it this way..since this scamdemic has appeared.
big pharma has made billions of dollars,GATES,FAUCCI ETC who are the main stakeholders have also pumped millions in to media,have shares in the hand sanitisers,have shares in the PCR testing equiptment and Gates is the MAJOR DONOR to the WHO....join the dots mate...

So all the talk about the majority in hospitals being Unvaxxed is a myth?

Absolutely ....the vaxxed are in the hospitals with adverse reactions....dont forget what came out of the Newcastle nightclub....all fully vaxxed staff and patrons..
Also the cruise ship 3200 people all staff and customers fully vaxxed,18/20 covid cases...NO UNVAXXED PEOPLE WERE ALLOWED IN......

You must know someone from inside the front linewith all this undisputed information you are getting.

I get hammered on here all the time because I research what I find from official websites...its not hard if you can be on a footy forum,you can research heaps online mate..

 

[swag_tiger]

Ok, I’ll do one.

What do the pro vax and anti vax have in common?

They can go the the pub!!!!! :golfer:

I’ll drink to that Swag ?

Too bad we can't go to the same pubs. The ones in newtown still do the scan and show me when it comes to checking in. I saw someone not allowed in because they argued that checking in isn't compulsory.

 

[swag_tiger]

Im not worried one bit about this flu like virus

I hope you are right. I'm telling my wife that this is what it now appears to be like and we just need to relax. The data is backing this assessment up right now but there has to be a massive risk and it's a risk in relation to people's lives.

BUT EARL it appears it is no greater threat than the seasonal flu we get and have got for hundreds of years,its a play by big pharma to make huge dollars...
look at it this way..since this scamdemic has appeared.
big pharma has made billions of dollars,GATES,FAUCCI ETC who are the main stakeholders have also pumped millions in to media,have shares in the hand sanitisers,have shares in the PCR testing equiptment and Gates is the MAJOR DONOR to the WHO....join the dots mate...

So all the talk about the majority in hospitals being Unvaxxed is a myth?

Absolutely ....the vaxxed are in the hospitals with adverse reactions....dont forget what came out of the Newcastle nightclub....all fully vaxxed staff and patrons..
Also the cruise ship 3200 people all staff and customers fully vaxxed,18/20 covid cases...NO UNVAXXED PEOPLE WERE ALLOWED IN......

You must know someone from inside the front linewith all this undisputed information you are getting.

I get hammered on here all the time because I research what I find from official websites...its not hard if you can be on a footy forum,you can research heaps online mate..

Research online or talk to someone on the front line. I have access to both. But nar the front line personnel have to be corrupt right?

 

[TrueTiger]

S.A had 11 % national vaccination and were doing extremely well.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

South Africa:- 1,493 deaths per million people.
Australia:- 82 deaths per million people.

They aren't doing terribly on a world scale but you gotta put it into perspective.

I like the stats and the data. You get a subjective decision on how to judge that data.

I will add that we are a currently a guinea pig country in relation to high vaccines minimizing the harm of Omicron. Without meaning to belittle people's lives it'll be interesting how the unvaccinated hold up compared to the vaccinated.

The vaccines (and some restrictions) saved us with delta. I'm not stating they are going to save us with Omicron because maybe you don't even require the vaccine with Omicron.

Dont forget Earl 1493 deaths per million in a 11% vaccinated country ....compared to 82 deaths per million in 95 % vaxxed country....
comparing apples to oranges mate ....

 

[earl]

S.A had 11 % national vaccination and were doing extremely well.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

South Africa:- 1,493 deaths per million people.
Australia:- 82 deaths per million people.

They aren't doing terribly on a world scale but you gotta put it into perspective.

I like the stats and the data. You get a subjective decision on how to judge that data.

I will add that we are a currently a guinea pig country in relation to high vaccines minimizing the harm of Omicron. Without meaning to belittle people's lives it'll be interesting how the unvaccinated hold up compared to the vaccinated.

The vaccines (and some restrictions) saved us with delta. I'm not stating they are going to save us with Omicron because maybe you don't even require the vaccine with Omicron.

Dont forget Earl 1493 deaths per million in a 11% vaccinated country ....compared to 82 deaths per million in 95 % vaxxed country....
comparing apples to oranges mate ....

So you agree the vaccines work then ?

 

[TrueTiger]

Im not worried one bit about this flu like virus

I hope you are right. I'm telling my wife that this is what it now appears to be like and we just need to relax. The data is backing this assessment up right now but there has to be a massive risk and it's a risk in relation to people's lives.

BUT EARL it appears it is no greater threat than the seasonal flu we get and have got for hundreds of years,its a play by big pharma to make huge dollars...
look at it this way..since this scamdemic has appeared.
big pharma has made billions of dollars,GATES,FAUCCI ETC who are the main stakeholders have also pumped millions in to media,have shares in the hand sanitisers,have shares in the PCR testing equiptment and Gates is the MAJOR DONOR to the WHO....join the dots mate...

So all the talk about the majority in hospitals being Unvaxxed is a myth?

Absolutely ....the vaxxed are in the hospitals with adverse reactions....dont forget what came out of the Newcastle nightclub....all fully vaxxed staff and patrons..
Also the cruise ship 3200 people all staff and customers fully vaxxed,18/20 covid cases...NO UNVAXXED PEOPLE WERE ALLOWED IN......

You must know someone from inside the front linewith all this undisputed information you are getting.

I get hammered on here all the time because I research what I find from official websites...its not hard if you can be on a footy forum,you can research heaps online mate..

Research online or talk to someone on the front line. I have access to both. But nar the front line personnel have to be corrupt right?

Swag,I will tell you that 90% of the hierarchy in this country and around the world are corrupt,if you research the right websites like American frontline doctors for eg,,they have great info...

 

[Eyeofthetiger 0]

Im not worried one bit about this flu like virus

I hope you are right. I'm telling my wife that this is what it now appears to be like and we just need to relax. The data is backing this assessment up right now but there has to be a massive risk and it's a risk in relation to people's lives.

BUT EARL it appears it is no greater threat than the seasonal flu we get and have got for hundreds of years,its a play by big pharma to make huge dollars...
look at it this way..since this scamdemic has appeared.
big pharma has made billions of dollars,GATES,FAUCCI ETC who are the main stakeholders have also pumped millions in to media,have shares in the hand sanitisers,have shares in the PCR testing equiptment and Gates is the MAJOR DONOR to the WHO....join the dots mate...

So all the talk about the majority in hospitals being Unvaxxed is a myth?

Absolutely ....the vaxxed are in the hospitals with adverse reactions....dont forget what came out of the Newcastle nightclub....all fully vaxxed staff and patrons..
Also the cruise ship 3200 people all staff and customers fully vaxxed,18/20 covid cases...NO UNVAXXED PEOPLE WERE ALLOWED IN......

You must know someone from inside the front linewith all this undisputed information you are getting.

I get hammered on here all the time because I research what I find from official websites...its not hard if you can be on a footy forum,you can research heaps online mate..

Research online or talk to someone on the front line. I have access to both. But nar the front line personnel have to be corrupt right?

Swag,I will tell you that 90% of the hierarchy in this country and around the world are corrupt,if you research the right websites like American frontline doctors for eg,,they have great info...

There is corruption around all sectors, particularly around medical and political and law enforcement

 

[TrueTiger]

S.A had 11 % national vaccination and were doing extremely well.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

South Africa:- 1,493 deaths per million people.
Australia:- 82 deaths per million people.

They aren't doing terribly on a world scale but you gotta put it into perspective.

I like the stats and the data. You get a subjective decision on how to judge that data.

I will add that we are a currently a guinea pig country in relation to high vaccines minimizing the harm of Omicron. Without meaning to belittle people's lives it'll be interesting how the unvaccinated hold up compared to the vaccinated.

The vaccines (and some restrictions) saved us with delta. I'm not stating they are going to save us with Omicron because maybe you don't even require the vaccine with Omicron.

Dont forget Earl 1493 deaths per million in a 11% vaccinated country ....compared to 82 deaths per million in 95 % vaxxed country....
comparing apples to oranges mate ....

So you agree the vaccines work then ?

Not at all,they were only an EUA for the corrupt CDC and Faucci to rollout an experimental drug...these arent vaccines...$$$$ was the incentive,but you can bag me out all you like for my opinion ...time will tell after 2023 if this experiment worked...thats according to Greg Hunt the health minister...

 

[earl]

S.A had 11 % national vaccination and were doing extremely well.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

South Africa:- 1,493 deaths per million people.
Australia:- 82 deaths per million people.

They aren't doing terribly on a world scale but you gotta put it into perspective.

I like the stats and the data. You get a subjective decision on how to judge that data.

I will add that we are a currently a guinea pig country in relation to high vaccines minimizing the harm of Omicron. Without meaning to belittle people's lives it'll be interesting how the unvaccinated hold up compared to the vaccinated.

The vaccines (and some restrictions) saved us with delta. I'm not stating they are going to save us with Omicron because maybe you don't even require the vaccine with Omicron.

Dont forget Earl 1493 deaths per million in a 11% vaccinated country ....compared to 82 deaths per million in 95 % vaxxed country....
comparing apples to oranges mate ....

So you agree the vaccines work then ?

Not at all,they were only an EUA for the corrupt CDC and Faucci to rollout an experimental drug...these arent vaccines...$$$$ was the incentive,but you can bag me out all you like for my opinion ...time will tell after 2023 if this experiment worked...thats according to Greg Hunt the health minister...

It's either one of the other though isn't it. Either the vaccines work and that explains the difference in the death rates or the vaccines don't work and it's all a scam. The problem is that data says the vaccines work extremely effectively.

I agree that at this point in time in relation to Omicron the jury is out on the vaccines. It looks promising but maybe that is just that this variant is milder.

Anyway - time will tell. The best option going forward is that the virus is mild enough so that no one really needs a vaccine and the health care system runs fine, people don't die etc.

 

[TrueTiger]

S.A had 11 % national vaccination and were doing extremely well.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

South Africa:- 1,493 deaths per million people.
Australia:- 82 deaths per million people.

They aren't doing terribly on a world scale but you gotta put it into perspective.

I like the stats and the data. You get a subjective decision on how to judge that data.

I will add that we are a currently a guinea pig country in relation to high vaccines minimizing the harm of Omicron. Without meaning to belittle people's lives it'll be interesting how the unvaccinated hold up compared to the vaccinated.

The vaccines (and some restrictions) saved us with delta. I'm not stating they are going to save us with Omicron because maybe you don't even require the vaccine with Omicron.

Dont forget Earl 1493 deaths per million in a 11% vaccinated country ....compared to 82 deaths per million in 95 % vaxxed country....
comparing apples to oranges mate ....

So you agree the vaccines work then ?

Not at all,they were only an EUA for the corrupt CDC and Faucci to rollout an experimental drug...these arent vaccines...$$$$ was the incentive,but you can bag me out all you like for my opinion ...time will tell after 2023 if this experiment worked...thats according to Greg Hunt the health minister...

It's either one of the other though isn't it. Either the vaccines work and that explains the difference in the death rates or the vaccines don't work and it's all a scam. The problem is that data says the vaccines work extremely effectively.

I agree that at this point in time in relation to Omicron the jury is out on the vaccines. It looks promising but maybe that is just that this variant is milder.

I would like to make 2 points Earl.....

1...Why did Pfizer say that the need 55 years to review the outcome of this TRIAL vaccine rollout...that was given to the US congress...
2 ..why doesnt VAERS demand all adverse reactions be recorded after each illness....its voluntary so you dont get a true record of the adverse reactions....pretty poor way of getting DATA for an EUA vaccine dont you think ???

 

[leichhardtjunior]

Ok, I’ll do one.

What do the pro vax and anti vax have in common?

They can go the the pub!!!!! :golfer:

I’ll drink to that Swag ?

Too bad we can't go to the same pubs. The ones in newtown still do the scan and show me when it comes to checking in. I saw someone not allowed in because they argued that checking in isn't compulsory.

Yes we can.
QR codes are not law, venues are legally required to supply a manual sign in option. Refusing entry to someone based on that carries a $12,000 fine. And it’s one that actually has to be paid because it’s in breach of an actual law. As opposed to the pretend mandate fines which are not legally enforceable because mandates are not laws.
I think the obvious thing here though if they are taking that approach, is that the pubs obviously run by dickheads, and THAT is why I probably won’t be in your pub ??

 

[earl]

S.A had 11 % national vaccination and were doing extremely well.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

South Africa:- 1,493 deaths per million people.
Australia:- 82 deaths per million people.

They aren't doing terribly on a world scale but you gotta put it into perspective.

I like the stats and the data. You get a subjective decision on how to judge that data.

I will add that we are a currently a guinea pig country in relation to high vaccines minimizing the harm of Omicron. Without meaning to belittle people's lives it'll be interesting how the unvaccinated hold up compared to the vaccinated.

The vaccines (and some restrictions) saved us with delta. I'm not stating they are going to save us with Omicron because maybe you don't even require the vaccine with Omicron.

Dont forget Earl 1493 deaths per million in a 11% vaccinated country ....compared to 82 deaths per million in 95 % vaxxed country....
comparing apples to oranges mate ....

So you agree the vaccines work then ?

Not at all,they were only an EUA for the corrupt CDC and Faucci to rollout an experimental drug...these arent vaccines...$$$$ was the incentive,but you can bag me out all you like for my opinion ...time will tell after 2023 if this experiment worked...thats according to Greg Hunt the health minister...

It's either one of the other though isn't it. Either the vaccines work and that explains the difference in the death rates or the vaccines don't work and it's all a scam. The problem is that data says the vaccines work extremely effectively.

I agree that at this point in time in relation to Omicron the jury is out on the vaccines. It looks promising but maybe that is just that this variant is milder.

I would like to make 2 points Earl.....

1...Why did Pfizer say that the need 55 years to review the outcome of this TRIAL vaccine rollout...that was given to the US congress...
2 ..why doesnt VAERS demand all adverse reactions be recorded after each illness....its voluntary so you dont get a true record of the adverse reactions....pretty poor way of getting DATA for an EUA vaccine dont you think ???

I have no idea about the answer to your questions and I also think they are irrelevant to understanding the big picture.

I can't answer the first question at all but I can state that we have a tonne of data which all show the vaccine is safe and effective.

In relation to question 2 there is often low quality data in heaps of settings. The data available in relation to this pandemic is top quality. It's pretty tough picking on that one VAERS point. I always agree that the better quality data you can get the better but you have to be realistic with this. If someone gets a skin irritation for instance they might not be bothered reporting it.

 

[TrueTiger]

Ok, I’ll do one.

What do the pro vax and anti vax have in common?

They can go the the pub!!!!! :golfer:

I’ll drink to that Swag ?

Too bad we can't go to the same pubs. The ones in newtown still do the scan and show me when it comes to checking in. I saw someone not allowed in because they argued that checking in isn't compulsory.

Yes we can.
QR codes are not law, venues are legally required to supply a manual sign in option. Refusing entry to someone based on that carries a $12,000 fine. And it’s one that actually has to be paid because it’s in breach of an actual law. As opposed to the pretend mandate fines which are not legally enforceable because mandates are not laws.
I think the obvious thing here though if they are taking that approach, is that the pubs obviously run by dickheads, and THAT is why I probably won’t be in your pub ??

LJ...you are 100% correct that MANDATES ARE NOT LAW....
the employees of BHP just took the company to the FAIR WORK and the decision was that the co.could not mandate the jab because they are not LAW...

 

[tig_prmz]

Has anyone done any international travel post COVID? Especially in last month or so?

 

[TrueTiger]

S.A had 11 % national vaccination and were doing extremely well.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

South Africa:- 1,493 deaths per million people.
Australia:- 82 deaths per million people.

They aren't doing terribly on a world scale but you gotta put it into perspective.

I like the stats and the data. You get a subjective decision on how to judge that data.

I will add that we are a currently a guinea pig country in relation to high vaccines minimizing the harm of Omicron. Without meaning to belittle people's lives it'll be interesting how the unvaccinated hold up compared to the vaccinated.

The vaccines (and some restrictions) saved us with delta. I'm not stating they are going to save us with Omicron because maybe you don't even require the vaccine with Omicron.

Dont forget Earl 1493 deaths per million in a 11% vaccinated country ....compared to 82 deaths per million in 95 % vaxxed country....
comparing apples to oranges mate ....

So you agree the vaccines work then ?

Not at all,they were only an EUA for the corrupt CDC and Faucci to rollout an experimental drug...these arent vaccines...$$$$ was the incentive,but you can bag me out all you like for my opinion ...time will tell after 2023 if this experiment worked...thats according to Greg Hunt the health minister...

It's either one of the other though isn't it. Either the vaccines work and that explains the difference in the death rates or the vaccines don't work and it's all a scam. The problem is that data says the vaccines work extremely effectively.

I agree that at this point in time in relation to Omicron the jury is out on the vaccines. It looks promising but maybe that is just that this variant is milder.

I would like to make 2 points Earl.....

1...Why did Pfizer say that the need 55 years to review the outcome of this TRIAL vaccine rollout...that was given to the US congress...
2 ..why doesnt VAERS demand all adverse reactions be recorded after each illness....its voluntary so you dont get a true record of the adverse reactions....pretty poor way of getting DATA for an EUA vaccine dont you think ???

I have no idea about the answer to your questions and I also think they are irrelevant to understanding the big picture.

I can't answer the first question at all but I can state that we have a tonne of data which all show the vaccine is safe and effective.

In relation to question 2 there is often low quality data in heaps of settings. The data available in relation to this pandemic is top quality. It's pretty tough picking on that one VAERS point. I always agree that the better quality data you can get the better but you have to be realistic with this. If someone gets a skin irritation for instance they might not be bothered reporting it.

They might not bother reporting it but was it due to the JAB?.some form of consistency would definately help the cause...
Also why have so many athletes and footballers had heart complaints all of a sudden after having a second jab.?
Also why have so many pilots in America died in flight after being told no jab no job...2019..1 death..2020..5 deaths...2021 ..100 deaths...(latest reports..not sure of the updated amount)...1750% increase in deaths