Coronavirus Outbreak

Status
Not open for further replies.
@happy_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132841) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132836) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132833) said:
@JD-Tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132829) said:
@formerguest said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132823) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132793) said:
@formerguest said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132768) said:
![Screenshot_20200320-213353_Gallery.jpg](/assets/uploads/files/1584700683355-screenshot_20200320-213353_gallery-resized.jpg)
![Screenshot_20200320-213503_Gallery.jpg](/assets/uploads/files/1584700698856-screenshot_20200320-213503_gallery-resized.jpg)
![Screenshot_20200320-213706_Gallery.jpg](/assets/uploads/files/1584700736426-screenshot_20200320-213706_gallery-resized.jpg)


Mate, you can relax a little (not a lot but some). What you are looking at is a graph of exponential growth. What you need to understand is that depending on the scale of the x and y axis, EVERY exponential graph looks the same, it is the nature of exponential growth. Its a mathematical phenomenon. You will note that the x axis of both graphs is similar but the y axis is wildly different. Depending on what scale you have on that graph, any exponential graph can be identical.

I have been tracking this mathematically for two weeks and it IS growing exponentially unfortunately ( the peak is getting near when the exponential growth is broken) but not all exponential growth is the same. Exponential growth simply means that each data is multiplied by the same each time and it therefore grows exponentially (not linear). Ours is currently growing at an exponential rate of between 1.2 - 1.25 per day. Italy was way more.

This is a better graph to understand is on this page https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/03/covid19-coronavirus-countries-infection-trajectory/ which enables you to track each country over time. Today is our 10th day since having 100 people and we have 876 confirmed cases. 10 days after 100 cases, Italy had 5202 cases. Its not even close.

I could have posted that, but it is a bit hard for many to read, plus because of the schedule of outbreaks and that it does not take the very much differing travel and/or internal restriction parameters for the individual countries, along with the more affected regions within them into account, so as such, along with the testing regimes, I find it to be an inaccurate comparison.

If the parameters were remotely even, then I would definitely go with that one, but on the basis that it is far from that, I find it just as, if not more misleading than the others that are simply date based with an even scale.

I expect that time with it's education from other's experience, along with our hospital system, will allow us to avert such horrendous death percentages, but current lack of restriction will have our confirmed case numbers ballooning similarly in the coming weeks. Either way, we will soon find out who is closer to the mark and can revisit it then.

Edit; I truly hope that we can keep cases under 10k in the next fortnight and having read your subsequent post, I also noticed that many seriously affected nations were going on a downward trajectory and Australia is pretty well constant. Would love a slide over it showing when restrictions were brought in, so that I could also evaluate on that basis.

To keep numbers low in the coming fortnight, wouldn't we have to be undertaking effective isolation measures when it's contagious which is now, which of course we aren't.

So many people don't see it, should the government try to scare them into being more careful? The perception seems to be that only the older people will die, so those that aren't in that category don't care. Maybe let them know younger people die too. (Though I don't know if that's true?)

The problem is in my opinion is the fact they are only testing people who have had direct contact THAT THEY KNOW of with coronavirus

The problem is the numbers could be far , far worse and we wouldn't know

The reason for lack of testing is the scarcity of the testing kits, this was unavoidable. Thankfully some Australian labs have developed alternative testing processes!

Not arguing that ...saying that for all we know their could be 2000 cases with CV in Australia ...and we wouldn't have a clue

I have done a lot of reading about this issue, the countries with the best results are the countries that are testing a lot. South Korea is doing a great job in that regard, but you need the resources to do it. Australia has used its scientist to develop new testing practises that use different components to what every other country is scrambling to source, hopefully that will allow us to upscale production.

The reason South Korea is doing so well is they then doggedly track down every contact with that infection and break the chain of transmission. Do we as a country have the resources to do that, our population is very spread out, which can be a hinderance in tracing contacts but a benefit in social distancing!

Most experts now believe that Covid 19 is too far gone to be eradicated without a vaccine, which means a lockdown could be required until a vaccine is created and are moving to a strategy of allowing the community to slowly build up an immunity to the disease, the Netherlands have been very public about this strategy with the UK also announcing it but backtracking after criticism.

More experts are starting to move to the idea of educating the community and placing some restrictions on the populace but to engage the people in the fight against this to create a more manageable scenario of multiple smaller peaks instead of the one big peak that has hit Italy, this strategy involves restrictions that can be tighten or relax based on the numbers at any specific time because it appears this disease will not be going away. Lockdowns worked in China because of the control they have over the populace, but what happens when the lockdown is removed is the question? Do numbers start rising again and if they do does China go into a second lockdown? this time indefinitely and maybe for longer than a year!
 
I've been watching the African numbers for some time. I think we'd all agree that an outbreak there would spiral out of control pretty quickly.

I think they're going to have major problems in the next month. Numbers have slowly increased and many Africans living in Europe would have visited family back home prior to any lockdowns.

We'd be looking at a massive humanitarian crisis on top this economic crisis.

"It's like a mild cold unless you're old or have underlying health issues" they said....new research is suggesting otherwise. https://www.statnews.com/2020/03/18/coronavirus-new-age-analysis-of-risk-confirms-young-adults-not-invincible/

Now, while older people make up the majority of deaths, this should be no surprise. When old people are frail and they break a bone for instance, many fall into a deep decline shortly after...especially if they have underlying health issues. To point to this is pointing out the obvious.

African health systems will buckle pretty quickly once this takes hold.
 
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132842) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132841) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132836) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132833) said:
@JD-Tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132829) said:
@formerguest said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132823) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132793) said:
@formerguest said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132768) said:
![Screenshot_20200320-213353_Gallery.jpg](/assets/uploads/files/1584700683355-screenshot_20200320-213353_gallery-resized.jpg)
![Screenshot_20200320-213503_Gallery.jpg](/assets/uploads/files/1584700698856-screenshot_20200320-213503_gallery-resized.jpg)
![Screenshot_20200320-213706_Gallery.jpg](/assets/uploads/files/1584700736426-screenshot_20200320-213706_gallery-resized.jpg)


Mate, you can relax a little (not a lot but some). What you are looking at is a graph of exponential growth. What you need to understand is that depending on the scale of the x and y axis, EVERY exponential graph looks the same, it is the nature of exponential growth. Its a mathematical phenomenon. You will note that the x axis of both graphs is similar but the y axis is wildly different. Depending on what scale you have on that graph, any exponential graph can be identical.

I have been tracking this mathematically for two weeks and it IS growing exponentially unfortunately ( the peak is getting near when the exponential growth is broken) but not all exponential growth is the same. Exponential growth simply means that each data is multiplied by the same each time and it therefore grows exponentially (not linear). Ours is currently growing at an exponential rate of between 1.2 - 1.25 per day. Italy was way more.

This is a better graph to understand is on this page https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/03/covid19-coronavirus-countries-infection-trajectory/ which enables you to track each country over time. Today is our 10th day since having 100 people and we have 876 confirmed cases. 10 days after 100 cases, Italy had 5202 cases. Its not even close.

I could have posted that, but it is a bit hard for many to read, plus because of the schedule of outbreaks and that it does not take the very much differing travel and/or internal restriction parameters for the individual countries, along with the more affected regions within them into account, so as such, along with the testing regimes, I find it to be an inaccurate comparison.

If the parameters were remotely even, then I would definitely go with that one, but on the basis that it is far from that, I find it just as, if not more misleading than the others that are simply date based with an even scale.

I expect that time with it's education from other's experience, along with our hospital system, will allow us to avert such horrendous death percentages, but current lack of restriction will have our confirmed case numbers ballooning similarly in the coming weeks. Either way, we will soon find out who is closer to the mark and can revisit it then.

Edit; I truly hope that we can keep cases under 10k in the next fortnight and having read your subsequent post, I also noticed that many seriously affected nations were going on a downward trajectory and Australia is pretty well constant. Would love a slide over it showing when restrictions were brought in, so that I could also evaluate on that basis.

To keep numbers low in the coming fortnight, wouldn't we have to be undertaking effective isolation measures when it's contagious which is now, which of course we aren't.

So many people don't see it, should the government try to scare them into being more careful? The perception seems to be that only the older people will die, so those that aren't in that category don't care. Maybe let them know younger people die too. (Though I don't know if that's true?)

The problem is in my opinion is the fact they are only testing people who have had direct contact THAT THEY KNOW of with coronavirus

The problem is the numbers could be far , far worse and we wouldn't know

The reason for lack of testing is the scarcity of the testing kits, this was unavoidable. Thankfully some Australian labs have developed alternative testing processes!

Not arguing that ...saying that for all we know their could be 2000 cases with CV in Australia ...and we wouldn't have a clue

I have done a lot of reading about this issue, the countries with the best results are the countries that are testing a lot. South Korea is doing a great job in that regard, but you need the resources to do it. Australia has used its scientist to develop new testing practises that use different components to what every other country is scrambling to source, hopefully that will allow us to upscale production.

The reason South Korea is doing so well is they then doggedly track down every contact with that infection and break the chain of transmission. Do we as a country have the resources to do that, our population is very spread out, which can be a hinderance in tracing contacts but a benefit in social distancing!

Most experts now believe that Covid 19 is too far gone to be eradicated without a vaccine, which means a lockdown could be required until a vaccine is created and are moving to a strategy of allowing the community to slowly build up an immunity to the disease, the Netherlands have been very public about this strategy with the UK also announcing it but backtracking after criticism.

More experts are starting to move to the idea of educating the community and placing some restrictions on the populace but to engage the people in the fight against this to create a more manageable scenario of multiple smaller peaks instead of the one big peak that has hit Italy, this strategy involves restrictions that can be tighten or relax based on the numbers at any specific time because it appears this disease will not be going away. Lockdowns worked in China because of the control they have over the populace, but what happens when the lockdown is removed is the question? Do numbers start rising again and if they do does China go into a second lockdown? this time indefinitely and maybe for longer than a year!

I've been thinking about this too mate.

Going forward, even if we get our cases to zero, how do you prevent people from bringing it back in the next day? It's a tough question.

Personally, I'd only be comfortable if we added a medical screening tax to airplane tickets which required you to spend time in a facility upon arrival to be thoroughly tested and cleared - tourists and citizens. No exceptions.

None of this self-isolation business. Our politicians must be stupid to think that people are going to sit around in their $300/night hotel room for 2 weeks of their annual leave. It was always going to be ignored. A test on arrival is cheaper for the passenger than self-isolation and it doesn't cost us a thing.

Imagine if we already had something like that in place and we did this from day one. We would have been able to keep our borders open AND make sure we didn't allow the virus to spread here.

It may even increase travel demand to Australia if people are confident they won't catch anything while here.
 
Also was given some more information I will post this afternoon around 4pm but I have to double check it because if its true its not great information the guy who told me was upset when he told me
 
Time for a good old fashioned game of guess who

Reporter: What do you say to millions of Americans who are fearful at this time?

Unknown: I would say you are a terrible reporter.

Who am I? 🤔
 
@TrueTiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132811) said:
So how can you try and be safe while others don’t give a crap…like panic buying it beggars belief…

Unfortunately we need our whole society to understand how bad this is.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

627 more deaths in Italy yesterday.
 
@weststigers said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132843) said:
“It’s like a mild cold unless you’re old or have underlying health issues” they said…new research is suggesting otherwise. https://www.statnews.com/2020/03/18/coronavirus-new-age-analysis-of-risk-confirms-young-adults-not-invincible/

You probably aren't at risk of dying but it's not a joke and we have no immunity to this virus.
 
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132840) said:
@formerguest said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132839) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132835) said:
@formerguest said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132832) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132831) said:
@JD-Tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132829) said:
@formerguest said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132823) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132793) said:
@formerguest said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132768) said:
![Screenshot_20200320-213353_Gallery.jpg](/assets/uploads/files/1584700683355-screenshot_20200320-213353_gallery-resized.jpg)
![Screenshot_20200320-213503_Gallery.jpg](/assets/uploads/files/1584700698856-screenshot_20200320-213503_gallery-resized.jpg)
![Screenshot_20200320-213706_Gallery.jpg](/assets/uploads/files/1584700736426-screenshot_20200320-213706_gallery-resized.jpg)


Mate, you can relax a little (not a lot but some). What you are looking at is a graph of exponential growth. What you need to understand is that depending on the scale of the x and y axis, EVERY exponential graph looks the same, it is the nature of exponential growth. Its a mathematical phenomenon. You will note that the x axis of both graphs is similar but the y axis is wildly different. Depending on what scale you have on that graph, any exponential graph can be identical.

I have been tracking this mathematically for two weeks and it IS growing exponentially unfortunately ( the peak is getting near when the exponential growth is broken) but not all exponential growth is the same. Exponential growth simply means that each data is multiplied by the same each time and it therefore grows exponentially (not linear). Ours is currently growing at an exponential rate of between 1.2 - 1.25 per day. Italy was way more.

This is a better graph to understand is on this page https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/03/covid19-coronavirus-countries-infection-trajectory/ which enables you to track each country over time. Today is our 10th day since having 100 people and we have 876 confirmed cases. 10 days after 100 cases, Italy had 5202 cases. Its not even close.

I could have posted that, but it is a bit hard for many to read, plus because of the schedule of outbreaks and that it does not take the very much differing travel and/or internal restriction parameters for the individual countries, along with the more affected regions within them into account, so as such, along with the testing regimes, I find it to be an inaccurate comparison.

If the parameters were remotely even, then I would definitely go with that one, but on the basis that it is far from that, I find it just as, if not more misleading than the others that are simply date based with an even scale.

I expect that time with it's education from other's experience, along with our hospital system, will allow us to avert such horrendous death percentages, but current lack of restriction will have our confirmed case numbers ballooning similarly in the coming weeks. Either way, we will soon find out who is closer to the mark and can revisit it then.

Edit; I truly hope that we can keep cases under 10k in the next fortnight and having read your subsequent post, I also noticed that many seriously affected nations were going on a downward trajectory and Australia is pretty well constant. Would love a slide over it showing when restrictions were brought in, so that I could also evaluate on that basis.

To keep numbers low in the coming fortnight, wouldn't we have to be undertaking effective isolation measures when it's contagious which is now, which of course we aren't.

So many people don't see it, should the government try to scare them into being more careful? The perception seems to be that only the older people will die, so those that aren't in that category don't care. Maybe let them know younger people die too. (Though I don't know if that's true?)

Younger people have been dying in Italy once the health system became overloaded!

That is also a concern, though hopefully mitigation measures are already being rolled out to prevent that scenario.

Though like @JD-Tiger above the lack of restrictions concerns me, with Italy having gone into full lockdown 10 days (11 now seeing it is morning) ago, whilst it's problem northern regions were closed down nearly a week earlier. Yet only now we are (hopefully) seeing their peak death numbers play out now despite such measures.

I am also worried about our lack of testing when juxtaposed with the better outcome in a northern town there with great testing rates that has become basically clear, along with that of Singapore.

Testing limitations were unavoidable though but hopefully with the designing of tests in Australia that use different components we should see testing broadened. A complete lockdown will be devastating here and locking down early in the piece will see you locked down for much longer as it only takes a couple of new cases and you are going to see the numbers rise again. The issue here is getting people to take the restrictions we have seriously as social distancing, isolation of unwell people and virtual lockdown of at risk people can work in slowing the spread to a manageable rate!

Reckon that unavoidable is a big stretch, with warnings about testing being sounded a couple of months ago. Can certainly agree on the current restrictions and people being faithful to them, just think that their levels have been and still are a week or more behind where they need to be.

So how do you source the required components when every country in the world is trying to source the same resources?

I doubt we can test like South Korea has unless we somehow get this under control now. Vaccines aren't produced quickly. We need to improve how we produce vaccines. We need to react more quickly to these events.

Most importantly though we need to practice social distancing. I reckon this is our only hope but I'm not sure enough people get this.
 
@GNR4LIFE said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132851) said:
Time for a good old fashioned game of guess who

Reporter: What do you say to millions of Americans who are fearful at this time?

Unknown: I would say you are a terrible reporter.

Who am I? 🤔

His response "“I say that you’re a terrible reporter,” Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon snapped aggressively. “That’s what I say. I think that’s a very nasty question. You’re doing sensationalism.”"

I had no problems with this guy prior to this event but he is a fool.
 
As for beds I see in California they just whacked up a isolation centre at some soccer field in a day...surely we could do the same..
 
@Earl said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132859) said:
@GNR4LIFE said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132851) said:
Time for a good old fashioned game of guess who

Reporter: What do you say to millions of Americans who are fearful at this time?

Unknown: I would say you are a terrible reporter.

Who am I? ?

His response "“I say that you’re a terrible reporter,” Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon snapped aggressively. “That’s what I say. I think that’s a very nasty question. You’re doing sensationalism.”"

I had no problems with this guy prior to this event but he is a fool.

His only concern is his self image. Now his precious economy is going to tank. As he would say “too bad”
 
@GNR4LIFE said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132866) said:
It’s obvious Col doesn’t read this thread. He’d be all over some of these posts 😂

Thats probably because he has not read yet that Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon now considers it to be a problem
 
@GNR4LIFE said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132861) said:
@Earl said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132859) said:
@GNR4LIFE said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132851) said:
Time for a good old fashioned game of guess who

Reporter: What do you say to millions of Americans who are fearful at this time?

Unknown: I would say you are a terrible reporter.

Who am I? ?

His response "“I say that you’re a terrible reporter,” Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon snapped aggressively. “That’s what I say. I think that’s a very nasty question. You’re doing sensationalism.”"

I had no problems with this guy prior to this event but he is a fool.

His only concern is his self image. Now his precious economy is going to tank. As he would say “too bad”

The world economy is tanking. I reckon it's going to be more like the great depression than a normal recession as well. It'll pass but I have no confidence in governments controlling their spending and we could have tougher economic conditions for a decade or so. People are also leveraged to the hilt and used to overseas holidays and cruises and partying etc.

I reckon manage the health crisis and the economy will come back but the health crisis is looking more and more catastrophic.
 
I watched the interview with three Ruby Princess passengers from Adelaide. The issue of personal responsibility comes into play. The decisions made to go on the cruise under the prevailing circumstances must be questioned. The passengers had no regard for health staff by going. One passenger is gravely ill in hospital taking up a valuable bed.
 
@jadtiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132868) said:
@GNR4LIFE said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132866) said:
It’s obvious Col doesn’t read this thread. He’d be all over some of these posts ?

Thats probably because he has not read yet that Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon now considers it to be a problem

Not much worse than **#liarfrom the shire** pretending that his children were going to school, whilst telling us constituents that our kids should be going to school as it is best for the nation.
 
@formerguest said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132892) said:
@jadtiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132868) said:
@GNR4LIFE said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132866) said:
It’s obvious Col doesn’t read this thread. He’d be all over some of these posts ?

Thats probably because he has not read yet that Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon now considers it to be a problem

Not much worse than **#liarfrom the shire** pretending that his children were going to school, whilst telling us constituents that our kids should be going to school as it is best for the nation.

Like him or not personally I think things are going to get very serious very quickly and I just hope our Prime Minister has what it takes to guide the country through this... as the last time I looked he is the head of our country .
What ever political persuasion you are it is time to stand as one because we are at War with an enemy that is going to kill many we love and decimate us financially ... call the Prime Minister what you like but he is all you have at this minute In time !
 
@formerguest said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132780) said:
@Regan said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132763) said:
@formerguest said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132756) said:
@Regan said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132750) said:
@Geo said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132749) said:
@Regan said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132747) said:
@Geo said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132744) said:
@formerguest said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132740) said:
@Regan said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132730) said:
@formerguest said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132725) said:
@Regan said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132716) said:
@formerguest said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132714) said:
@Regan said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132704) said:
@GNR4LIFE said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132635) said:
Kids aren’t going to school anyway atm. I was told today that all staff at my job could recieve a text saying not to come in the following day at any moment. All libraries in our LGA have been closed, swimming lessons are suspended, and we aren’t taking booking for any parks or facilities.



Just remember the second of April it's a important day

Spike day.


Its happening all around the world

Yeah, with shallow talk about copying the Singapore model, but minus monitoring and wholesale testing, even after generally praising our response a few weeks ago, I no longer feel assured.

I have little to no faith in the strength of most health related decisions made in the past fortnight or so and on that basis of lessons learned overseas, am now expecting to look back on it in an even worse light a fortnight or so from now.

The economy was always going to tank and I worry that because of prioritising an economic, rather than medical approach, despite the mounting evidence, we as a nation are going to suffer unnecessary and unacceptable human loss.



I have had it comfirm lock down is 2 of April with 2 days of leeway if there is unforeseen problems and it will go for 3 weeks maybe 4

I have been looking at the statistics for a while now and particularly so for a week or two. As each day passed and more graphs became available, I have noticed just how much the numbers/plot points playing out right now in Australia resemble the graph spikes of those countries that are suffering massive losses at the moment. Around your date looks about on the money to me.

With the number of the single wedding attendees testing positive now at 35 and likely still rising, I hope that authorities are already setting up additional facilities around the gong region and take community control measures tomorrow.

Why wait..?


You can only shut once and thats the best date with nursing school teachers kids holidays and just before the peak so hospitals can handle it and then you slamm on the breaks

So for the next 12 days or so more people including the nursing school teachers and kids are at risk...




Yes but that date is the best shot at fixing it the experts have agreed so less are hurt its just unfortunate but did you see the dates Qantas are closed also the AFL is so smart there normal season is what 22 or 24 weeks they have announced 17 week season plus lock down and restarting they comp say 5 weeks so the length of the season will be pretty spot on if the lock down works

Well it looks like that will be too late for mine, as the graphs that I am about to post showing our correlation with Italy and Spain, show that we might already be too late.



Post them would love to see them

There are a few up there now and I can post some more, or bar charts, but they pretty well show the same dangerous curve that the others posted above do.

I read them as Australia being as bad or worse at this stage, being a few weeks behind, but on a terrible trajectory. I suppose our response from right now and the ability of our health system to cope will determine our outcome.

What are your and other's thoughts?



Hi on your model does it predict 14000 cases by Tuesday what's some of what I was told this morning
 
@Geo said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132860) said:
As for beds I see in California they just whacked up a isolation centre at some soccer field in a day...surely we could do the same..

It wouldn’t get through local council .
 
@Snake said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132899) said:
@formerguest said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132892) said:
@jadtiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132868) said:
@GNR4LIFE said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1132866) said:
It’s obvious Col doesn’t read this thread. He’d be all over some of these posts ?

Thats probably because he has not read yet that Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon now considers it to be a problem

Not much worse than **#liarfrom the shire** pretending that his children were going to school, whilst telling us constituents that our kids should be going to school as it is best for the nation.

Like him or not personally I think things are going to get very serious very quickly and I just hope our Prime Minister has what it takes to guide the country through this... as the last time I looked he is the head of our country .
What ever political persuasion you are it is time to stand as one because we are at War with an enemy that is going to kill many we love and decimate us financially ... call the Prime Minister what you like but he is all you have at this minute In time !

No one seems to be listening to him ..he told everyone to Stop it...
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top