Coronavirus Outbreak

[Tiger5150]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tq8SXOBy-4w

Heard about Ivomectin being the best solution for Covid from an Aussie doctor about 4 months ago, he was quickly shut down. It’s not in the pharmaceutical companies best interests for everyone to use a drug that’s already so available, they must make their millions (and inflate their egos) rolling out a largely untested new vaccine.

I can’t believe they are holding back the real solution to this pandemic and playing with people’s lives in such an unprecedented time as this. It’s disgusting!


Some interesting perspective on Ivomectin from a podcast I regularly listen to with two leading evolutionary biologists.

https://youtu.be/KfbBvvPVFdw?t=3764

Also skip to 1:17:02 for a very informative summary of the US Pfizer/Moderna vaccine vs the Oxford/Astra Zeneca vaccine that we are getting. By luck or good management I am VERY glad we are getting this vaccine, I am more at ease with it. I actually foresee isssues in the US because of the MASSIVE $$$ investment in the mRNA vaccine, they will be compelled to use it.

I think we will have both vaccines being used in Australia.


All approved vaccines will be available, but the Oxford vaccine is the one the Aus Govt have purchased 53M doses, 50M of which to be manufactured in Aus by CSL.

We have also purchased 10M doses of the Pfizer vaccine.


Correct....your point?

I think the fact that they have committed to 53M of one and 10M of the other as well as establishing manufacturing onshore for one and not the other is a good indication of priority.

My point is you are claiming you are glad we are **getting the oxford vaccine over the the Pfizer**, we are getting both plus 51M doses of the Novavax vaccine.

I never claimed that at all.

I said I am glad we are getting the Oxford vaccine. They are not getting it in the US, they dont get that option.

I think you are looking for an argument that doesnt exist, I also think you are playing with semantics to create an argument.

I think it is extremely obvious that the Aus Govt have put their eggs in the Oxford Astra Zeneca basket. If you go to the Dept Health statement on the vaccine agreements, you notice the difference in wording. We have ***secured*** 53M doses of Oxford Astra Zeneca, whereas 10M doses of Pfizer ***will be made available*** and 51M doses of Novavax ***will be made available.***

Additionally the Aus Govt (through CSL) is making the 50M doses of Oxford Astra Zeneca. I think its pretty safe to assume that they will use the vaccine doses that they make in Australia before the ones they have to import. It also protects us from the very real possibility that Novavax and Pfizer vaccines which are made in Europe will prioritise overrun European and US markets before Australia with <100 cases.

Of the 113M doses that have either been secured or "will be available", only 10M are mRNA vaccines which was the point of my post (if you listen to the video).

So, yes, I am glad we are getting the Oxford Astra Zeneca vaccine in Australia and dont see any need to reconsider.

https://www.health.gov.au/initiatives-and-programs/covid-19-vaccines/about-covid-19-vaccines/australias-vaccine-agreements

 

[cochise]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tq8SXOBy-4w

Heard about Ivomectin being the best solution for Covid from an Aussie doctor about 4 months ago, he was quickly shut down. It’s not in the pharmaceutical companies best interests for everyone to use a drug that’s already so available, they must make their millions (and inflate their egos) rolling out a largely untested new vaccine.

I can’t believe they are holding back the real solution to this pandemic and playing with people’s lives in such an unprecedented time as this. It’s disgusting!


Some interesting perspective on Ivomectin from a podcast I regularly listen to with two leading evolutionary biologists.

https://youtu.be/KfbBvvPVFdw?t=3764

Also skip to 1:17:02 for a very informative summary of the US Pfizer/Moderna vaccine vs the Oxford/Astra Zeneca vaccine that we are getting. By luck or good management I am VERY glad we are getting this vaccine, I am more at ease with it. I actually foresee isssues in the US because of the MASSIVE $$$ investment in the mRNA vaccine, they will be compelled to use it.

I think we will have both vaccines being used in Australia.


All approved vaccines will be available, but the Oxford vaccine is the one the Aus Govt have purchased 53M doses, 50M of which to be manufactured in Aus by CSL.

We have also purchased 10M doses of the Pfizer vaccine.


Correct....your point?

I think the fact that they have committed to 53M of one and 10M of the other as well as establishing manufacturing onshore for one and not the other is a good indication of priority.

My point is you are claiming you are glad we are **getting the oxford vaccine over the the Pfizer**, we are getting both plus 51M doses of the Novavax vaccine.

I never claimed that at all.

I said I am glad we are getting the Oxford vaccine. They are not getting it in the US, they dont get that option.

I think you are looking for an argument that doesnt exist, I also think you are playing with semantics to create an argument.

I think it is extremely obvious that the Aus Govt have put their eggs in the Oxford Astra Zeneca basket. If you go to the Dept Health statement on the vaccine agreements, you notice the difference in wording. We have ***secured*** 53M doses of Oxford Astra Zeneca, whereas 10M doses of Pfizer ***will be made available*** and 51M doses of Novavax ***will be made available.***

Additionally the Aus Govt (through CSL) is making the 50M doses of Oxford Astra Zeneca. I think its pretty safe to assume that they will use the vaccine doses that they make in Australia before the ones they have to import. It also protects us from the very real possibility that Novavax and Pfizer vaccines which are made in Europe will prioritise overrun European and US markets before Australia with <100 cases.

Of the 113M doses that have either been secured or "will be available", only 10M are mRNA vaccines which was the point of my post (if you listen to the video).

So, yes, I am glad we are getting the Oxford Astra Zeneca vaccine in Australia and dont see any need to reconsider.

https://www.health.gov.au/initiatives-and-programs/covid-19-vaccines/about-covid-19-vaccines/australias-vaccine-agreements

Yeah, I slightly misinterpreted your post, sorry about that. I read your post as being glad we were getting oxford instead of Pfizer. Wasn't trying to argue was just stating we were getting both lol.

 

[Papacito]

It has been an interesting few days in the Aussie political world:

*London: Prime Minister Scott Morrison has wrongly claimed that the United Kingdom is not conducting basic safety tests on coronavirus vaccines before they are given to the public, prompting a rebuke from Britain's drug regulator.*
https://www.smh.com.au/world/europe/scott-morrison-wrongly-claims-uk-is-not-safety-testing-covid-vaccine-20210106-p56s0c.html

A few political insiders on Twitter are claiming the PM is deliberately delaying our vaccine to coincide with an early federal election.

 

[mike]

It has been an interesting few days in the Aussie political world:

*London: Prime Minister Scott Morrison has wrongly claimed that the United Kingdom is not conducting basic safety tests on coronavirus vaccines before they are given to the public, prompting a rebuke from Britain's drug regulator.*
https://www.smh.com.au/world/europe/scott-morrison-wrongly-claims-uk-is-not-safety-testing-covid-vaccine-20210106-p56s0c.html

A few political insiders on Twitter are claiming the PM is deliberately delaying our vaccine to coincide with an early federal election.

That is a distinct possibility I wouldn’t put past Scomo from marketing.

 

[innsaneink]

What's happened with trumps Hydroxychloroquine (a drug which the clinical evidence shows is ineffective as has danger side-effects)?

 

[Guest]

How many Forum Members would get a jab. I am happy to have one and encourage my kids and wife to have one?

I'm mandated to get one through work. On a sidenote, no surprise to see China has blocked WHO from entering the country to begin their investigation on the origin of the virus.

 

[Guest]

What's happened with trumps Hydroxychloroquine (a drug which the clinical evidence shows is ineffective as has danger side-effects)?

I reckon he took it - it would explain the craziness of his behaviour and comments of late.

 

[mike]

How many Forum Members would get a jab. I am happy to have one and encourage my kids and wife to have one?

I'm mandated to get one through work. On a sidenote, no surprise to see China has blocked WHO from entering the country to begin their investigation on the origin of the virus.

No great shock at all, expected actually.

 

[tiger_one]

How many Forum Members would get a jab. I am happy to have one and encourage my kids and wife to have one?

I'm mandated to get one through work. On a sidenote, no surprise to see China has blocked WHO from entering the country to begin their investigation on the origin of the virus.

No great shock at all, expected actually.

On the news, Albo said that Chine should be open and transparent.

 

[mike]

How many Forum Members would get a jab. I am happy to have one and encourage my kids and wife to have one?

I'm mandated to get one through work. On a sidenote, no surprise to see China has blocked WHO from entering the country to begin their investigation on the origin of the virus.

No great shock at all, expected actually.


On the news, Albo said that Chine should be open and transparent.

Well they never have been so there is no reason to believe that now they would be any different.

 

[Snake]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tq8SXOBy-4w

Heard about Ivomectin being the best solution for Covid from an Aussie doctor about 4 months ago, he was quickly shut down. It’s not in the pharmaceutical companies best interests for everyone to use a drug that’s already so available, they must make their millions (and inflate their egos) rolling out a largely untested new vaccine.

I can’t believe they are holding back the real solution to this pandemic and playing with people’s lives in such an unprecedented time as this. It’s disgusting!


Some interesting perspective on Ivomectin from a podcast I regularly listen to with two leading evolutionary biologists.

https://youtu.be/KfbBvvPVFdw?t=3764

Also skip to 1:17:02 for a very informative summary of the US Pfizer/Moderna vaccine vs the Oxford/Astra Zeneca vaccine that we are getting. By luck or good management I am VERY glad we are getting this vaccine, I am more at ease with it. I actually foresee isssues in the US because of the MASSIVE $$$ investment in the mRNA vaccine, they will be compelled to use it.

I think we will have both vaccines being used in Australia.


All approved vaccines will be available, but the Oxford vaccine is the one the Aus Govt have purchased 53M doses, 50M of which to be manufactured in Aus by CSL.

Scomo what are you doing setting this up ..and sharing ,delivering to our pacific Neighbours .
Well done Scomo from marketing ! The pinko’s will
be cringing?

 

[Regan]

https://fellowshipoftheminds.com/Hydroxychloroquine (a drug which the clinical evidence shows is ineffective as has danger side-effects)-is-why-uganda-with-a-population-of-43m-has-only-15-covid-19-deaths

 

[mike]

https://fellowshipoftheminds.com/Hydroxychloroquine (a drug which the clinical evidence shows is ineffective as has danger side-effects)-is-why-uganda-with-a-population-of-43m-has-only-15-covid-19-deaths

Another possibility is that the health system reporting system is flawed? Or that more aggressive lock downs may be the reason for the low numbers? Whatever the reason is I doubt it has anything to do with Hydroxychloroquine (a drug which the clinical evidence shows is ineffective as has danger side-effects).

 

[jadtiger]

https://fellowshipoftheminds.com/Hydroxychloroquine (a drug which the clinical evidence shows is ineffective as has danger side-effects)-is-why-uganda-with-a-population-of-43m-has-only-15-covid-19-deaths

Interesting link to an extreme right wing website which is full of conspiracy theories.Seriously reading some of that is absolutely scary stuff some of the bigotry in there is neo nazi.If you want to believe that rubbish it is up to you but it is complete garbage

 

[Harvey]

https://fellowshipoftheminds.com/Hydroxychloroquine (a drug which the clinical evidence shows is ineffective as has danger side-effects)-is-why-uganda-with-a-population-of-43m-has-only-15-covid-19-deaths



Interesting link to an extreme right wing website which is full of conspiracy theories.Seriously reading some of that is absolutely scary stuff some of the bigotry in there is neo nazi.If you want to believe that rubbish it is up to you but it is complete garbage

You doubt the truth of some of the articles on this site?
https://fellowshipoftheminds.com/pedophiles-communicate-with-each-other-via-pizza-and-cheese-emojis-on-social-media
https://fellowshipoftheminds.com/new-zealand-prime-minister-is-a-[This word has been automatically removed]

You must have been brainwashed by the fake news mainstream media conglomerates.

Now I am off to order a ~~Pizza~~. Dough covered in Tomato ~~Sauce~~ Liquidy Product and ~~Cheese~~ a grated dairy product and other toppings. Hopefully the driver does know his way and does not need ~~a map~~ to get directions from some form of reference material.

I am not sure that this site is as good as DZavid Icke's Reptillians, but is up there in the bat ...... crazy stakes.

 

[Harvey]

I have actually found something humorous (as long as you can overlook the grammatical errors)


 

[TillLindemann]

https://fellowshipoftheminds.com/Hydroxychloroquine (a drug which the clinical evidence shows is ineffective as has danger side-effects)-is-why-uganda-with-a-population-of-43m-has-only-15-covid-19-deaths

Or it could be this

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/02/world/africa/africa-coronavirus-deaths-underreporting.html

 

[pawsandclaws1]

ABC and SMH reporting at least two cases of Covid in Qld from Quarantine breach. They must be responsible for the Covid traces found in sewage from the GC, Stanthorpe, Cairns.

Quick Anna, slam the border shut to NSW!

 

[pawsandclaws1]

SMH reports the Brisbane cleaner who worked shifts in the Hotel quarantine programme a d travelled on public tpt tested positive to the UK strain of Covid. Interesting times ahead in Qld.

Message to Mr Barilaro - slam the border shut on Qld.