Coronavirus Outbreak

[Tiger5150]

Why are NSW taking more than others? Economy?

If you consider the logistics of getting people back from all over the world, in the relatively small numbers that are flying, they would be simply filling a plane. It is not feasible to fly to a number of destinations, only one and that is Sydney

 

[gallagher]

All the good reasons why they should be doing it but WHY are they actually doing it? They must think there is some benefit for them.

 

[jadtiger]

The initial point of entry into the country should be where the quarantine restrictions apply(easier to monitor and control).However this should be a FEDERAL operation as ultimately the Australian government should be responsible for both border and quarantine control.
Needless to say the individual states where sold a pup from Scamo so he and his government could deny responsibility for what is really a federal problem

 

[cochise]

All the good reasons why they should be doing it but WHY are they actually doing it? They must think there is some benefit for them.

I think the benefit of providing a regular occupancy for the big hotels in the city may be playing a part.

 

[gallagher]

All the good reasons why they should be doing it but WHY are they actually doing it? They must think there is some benefit for them.

I think the benefit of providing a regular occupancy for the big hotels in the city may be playing a part.

I think that's the main reason. Its a tourist city after all. The 'heavy lifting' they talk about isn't one of charity or being morally responsible.

 

[cochise]

All the good reasons why they should be doing it but WHY are they actually doing it? They must think there is some benefit for them.

I think the benefit of providing a regular occupancy for the big hotels in the city may be playing a part.

I think that's the main reason. Its a tourist city after all. The 'heavy lifting' they talk about isn't one of charity or being morally responsible.

Being morally responsible and providing benefit to the hotels are not mutually exclusive.

 

[Regan]

https://youtu.be/C1-0XKYAZII

You sure this is the correct thread for this?

Yes

 

[gallagher]

All the good reasons why they should be doing it but WHY are they actually doing it? They must think there is some benefit for them.

I think the benefit of providing a regular occupancy for the big hotels in the city may be playing a part.

I think that's the main reason. Its a tourist city after all. The 'heavy lifting' they talk about isn't one of charity or being morally responsible.

Being morally responsible and providing benefit to the hotels are not mutually exclusive.

Certainly not. But every govt is just looking after their own state. They're only doing the heavy lifting because it suits them.

 

[bbobb]

I think it is more to do with established routes and flight costs. NSW account for most returned travellers (55% I believe). It wouldn’t be feasible to fly citizens to their home states eg Tassie or WA.

I also believe the labour cost of quarantine would probably outweigh any hotel accomodation benefit meaning it would be cheaper to pay the hotels to do nothing.

 

[cochise]

All the good reasons why they should be doing it but WHY are they actually doing it? They must think there is some benefit for them.

I think the benefit of providing a regular occupancy for the big hotels in the city may be playing a part.

I think that's the main reason. Its a tourist city after all. The 'heavy lifting' they talk about isn't one of charity or being morally responsible.

Being morally responsible and providing benefit to the hotels are not mutually exclusive.

Certainly not. But every govt is just looking after their own state. They're only doing the heavy lifting because it suits them.

They also must be confident in their systems and practices though.

 

[Spud_Murphy]

https://youtu.be/8dyz6xS_Kjk

 

[gallagher]

All the good reasons why they should be doing it but WHY are they actually doing it? They must think there is some benefit for them.

I think the benefit of providing a regular occupancy for the big hotels in the city may be playing a part.

I think that's the main reason. Its a tourist city after all. The 'heavy lifting' they talk about isn't one of charity or being morally responsible.

Being morally responsible and providing benefit to the hotels are not mutually exclusive.

Certainly not. But every govt is just looking after their own state. They're only doing the heavy lifting because it suits them.

They also must be confident in their systems and practices though.

I'm not doubting their competence though. I'm just pointing out that they are acting for their own benefit first and foremost. Like every state govt.

 

[cochise]

All the good reasons why they should be doing it but WHY are they actually doing it? They must think there is some benefit for them.

I think the benefit of providing a regular occupancy for the big hotels in the city may be playing a part.

I think that's the main reason. Its a tourist city after all. The 'heavy lifting' they talk about isn't one of charity or being morally responsible.

Being morally responsible and providing benefit to the hotels are not mutually exclusive.

Certainly not. But every govt is just looking after their own state. They're only doing the heavy lifting because it suits them.

They also must be confident in their systems and practices though.

I'm not doubting their competence though. I'm just pointing out that they are acting for their own benefit first and foremost. Like every state govt.

The thing is, if the other states were as confident in their ability they would be pushing to increase their numbers. The fact that they aren't is pretty telling to me and is why other premiers shouldn't be too critical of what is happening in NSW currently.

Ill also mention that Hazzard was being pressured into bagging Victoria yesterday by the media and he refused to do so and stated that NSW will provide any support Victoria requests. That is how we should be operating as a country and not using this as a point scoring exercise.

 

[gallagher]

https://youtu.be/8dyz6xS_Kjk

Lol, that Jimmy Giggle?

 

[gallagher]

All the good reasons why they should be doing it but WHY are they actually doing it? They must think there is some benefit for them.

I think the benefit of providing a regular occupancy for the big hotels in the city may be playing a part.

I think that's the main reason. Its a tourist city after all. The 'heavy lifting' they talk about isn't one of charity or being morally responsible.

Being morally responsible and providing benefit to the hotels are not mutually exclusive.

Certainly not. But every govt is just looking after their own state. They're only doing the heavy lifting because it suits them.

They also must be confident in their systems and practices though.

I'm not doubting their competence though. I'm just pointing out that they are acting for their own benefit first and foremost. Like every state govt.

The thing is, if the other states were as confident in their ability they would be pushing to increase their numbers. The fact that they aren't is pretty telling to me and is why other premiers shouldn't be too critical of what is happening in NSW currently.

Ill also mention that Hazzard was being pressured into bagging Victoria yesterday by the media and he refused to do so and stated that NSW will provide any support Victoria requests. That is how we should be operating as a country and not using this as a point scoring exercise.

I agree there, pollies being pollies.

 

[Spud_Murphy]

https://youtu.be/8dyz6xS_Kjk

Lol, that Jimmy Giggle?

Yes I believe so. He’s done a heap of these over time as the Covid drama and bickering between the states has unfolded - bloody hilarious!

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

Here is an interesting statistic. I just checked the total deaths for COVID which is estimated now at 1,852,115. It's pretty bad.

I started reading a book on the pandemic of the Spanish Flu in 1918. The population must have been less than today but the estimated deaths was between 20 and 100 million people.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_flu

It is estimated that approximately half a billion people contracted it, so that's a mortality rate of 4-20% based on whatever estimate of deaths you choose.

 

[happy_tiger]

Here is an interesting statistic. I just checked the total deaths for COVID which is estimated now at 1,852,115. It's pretty bad.

I started reading a book on the pandemic of the Spanish Flu in 1918. The population must have been less than today but the estimated deaths was between 20 and 100 million people.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_flu

It is estimated that approximately half a billion people contracted it, so that's a mortality rate of 4-20% based on whatever estimate of deaths you choose.

Even with the vaccines you'd imagine the mortality to double by the time we finally get to the end of the Pandemic ...if we ever get to the end of this Pandemic

 

[Papacito]

I think it is more to do with established routes and flight costs. NSW account for most returned travellers (55% I believe). It wouldn’t be feasible to fly citizens to their home states eg Tassie or WA.

I also believe the labour cost of quarantine would probably outweigh any hotel accomodation benefit meaning it would be cheaper to pay the hotels to do nothing.

This.

You'd also assume flying/bussing people here there and everywhere rather than quarantine at point of entry increases the risk of transmission.

 

[sheer64]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tq8SXOBy-4w