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@tiger_fanatic3 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1390652) said:
Blues to go into camp in Kingscliff next week to avoid any COVID complications in lead up to Origin in Brisbane.

Series levelled 1-1 .....your banned from Qld and you forfeit
 
@tiger5150 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1391646) said:
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1391591) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1391588) said:
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1391547) said:
@tigger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1391536) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1391488) said:
Vaccination is a health issue but it’s also an economic issue. Full economic recovery is dependent upon broad-based immunity. Any disinformation in relation to the safety of our vaccination program is an attack on our economic well being.

Of course, but I’d respectfully suggest to you that I have not provided any disinformation, only information. Information is becoming increasingly important and increasingly guarded and suppressed. What if there was a safer, cheaper, easier as effective alternative to vaccines?

I disagree with you at this point T5150. I'm sure you didn't intend to provide disinformation, but posting that graph of deaths following vaccination, without explaining that there is actually no causal links between those deaths and the vaccinations, might lead the casual reader to assume that 5,000 people died as a result of having a covid vaccination.

Sure, you posted a link to the site, so anyone who wanted to could get that information for themselves, but I have to say to you that I don't think that's good enough.

Without that explanation, the post infers, even if unintentionally, that the deaths are as a result of the vaccination. That may well deter people who would otherwise receive a vaccination. If you are going to post information about vaccination statistics I feel that it is incumbent upon you to make sure that those statistics are presented, in your post, in a way that reflects their true value and usage. It's too important an issue to just dump the data out there without the important explanatory notes from the data site.

Yeah I tried to explain that to my Missus the other night. I finally got through when I said something along the lines:
so when everyone is vaccinated nobody dies?

A lightbulb moment.


No one dies of the vaccine Mike?

Of course they do as I have stated previously. Eg In the UK approx 1 in every million. Conversely not every death after being vaccinated is a result of the vaccine. That was my point.


All good, just to clarify for millionth time, Im not anti vax ,in fact, depending on how things go, I might end up getting this one but Im definitely not comfortable with it. Would love to see Ivermectin (a drug which the clinical evidence shows is not statistically effective) used as a global response.

I actually agree with you. I might need a brain scan to see if everything thing is OK. lol
 
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1391662) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1391646) said:
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1391591) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1391588) said:
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1391547) said:
@tigger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1391536) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1391488) said:
Vaccination is a health issue but it’s also an economic issue. Full economic recovery is dependent upon broad-based immunity. Any disinformation in relation to the safety of our vaccination program is an attack on our economic well being.

Of course, but I’d respectfully suggest to you that I have not provided any disinformation, only information. Information is becoming increasingly important and increasingly guarded and suppressed. What if there was a safer, cheaper, easier as effective alternative to vaccines?

I disagree with you at this point T5150. I'm sure you didn't intend to provide disinformation, but posting that graph of deaths following vaccination, without explaining that there is actually no causal links between those deaths and the vaccinations, might lead the casual reader to assume that 5,000 people died as a result of having a covid vaccination.

Sure, you posted a link to the site, so anyone who wanted to could get that information for themselves, but I have to say to you that I don't think that's good enough.

Without that explanation, the post infers, even if unintentionally, that the deaths are as a result of the vaccination. That may well deter people who would otherwise receive a vaccination. If you are going to post information about vaccination statistics I feel that it is incumbent upon you to make sure that those statistics are presented, in your post, in a way that reflects their true value and usage. It's too important an issue to just dump the data out there without the important explanatory notes from the data site.

Yeah I tried to explain that to my Missus the other night. I finally got through when I said something along the lines:
so when everyone is vaccinated nobody dies?

A lightbulb moment.


No one dies of the vaccine Mike?

Of course they do as I have stated previously. Eg In the UK approx 1 in every million. Conversely not every death after being vaccinated is a result of the vaccine. That was my point.


All good, just to clarify for millionth time, Im not anti vax ,in fact, depending on how things go, I might end up getting this one but Im definitely not comfortable with it. Would love to see Ivermectin (a drug which the clinical evidence shows is not statistically effective) used as a global response.

I actually agree with you. I might need a brain scan to see if everything thing is OK. lol


Best to get it checked ;-)
 
@gallagher said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1391589) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1391255) said:
Had my second dose of Pfizer yesterday and it had knocked me around.

How were you after the first jab? I'm getting my first Monday.

First I was fine, second really struggled
 
Covid has made its way up to the Sunshine Coast with tigers players having to social distance in defence during the game vs storm
 
Dr. Robert Malone, the inventor of the mRNA and DNA vaccine core platform technology,


“I recently learned that these vaccines have likely killed over 25,800 Americans (which I confirmed 3 different ways) and disabled at least 1,000,000 more. And we’re only halfway to the finish line. We need to PAUSE these vaccines NOW before more people are killed.

Based on what I now know about the miniscule vaccine benefits (approximately a 0.3% reduction in absolute risk), side effects (including death), current COVID rates, and the success rate of early treatment protocols, the answer I would give today to anyone asking me for advice as to whether to take any of the current vaccines would be, ‘Just say NO.’

The current vaccines are particularly contraindicated if you have already been infected with COVID or are under age 20. For these people, I would say ‘NO! NO! NO!’

In this article, I will explain what I have learned since I was vaccinated that totally changed my mind. You will learn how these vaccines work and the shortcuts that led to the mistakes that were made.

You will understand why there are so many side effects and why these are so varied and why they usually happen within 30 days of vaccination. You will understand why kids are having heart issues (for which there is no treatment), and temporarily losing their sight, and ability to talk. You will understand why as many as 3% may be severely disabled by the vaccine.”
 
@meganata said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1395149) said:
Dr. Robert Malone, the inventor of the mRNA and DNA vaccine core platform technology,


“I recently learned that these vaccines have likely killed over 25,800 Americans (which I confirmed 3 different ways) and disabled at least 1,000,000 more. And we’re only halfway to the finish line. We need to PAUSE these vaccines NOW before more people are killed.

Based on what I now know about the miniscule vaccine benefits (approximately a 0.3% reduction in absolute risk), side effects (including death), current COVID rates, and the success rate of early treatment protocols, the answer I would give today to anyone asking me for advice as to whether to take any of the current vaccines would be, ‘Just say NO.’

The current vaccines are particularly contraindicated if you have already been infected with COVID or are under age 20. For these people, I would say ‘NO! NO! NO!’

In this article, I will explain what I have learned since I was vaccinated that totally changed my mind. You will learn how these vaccines work and the shortcuts that led to the mistakes that were made.

You will understand why there are so many side effects and why these are so varied and why they usually happen within 30 days of vaccination. You will understand why kids are having heart issues (for which there is no treatment), and temporarily losing their sight, and ability to talk. You will understand why as many as 3% may be severely disabled by the vaccine.”

Do have a link for this article?
 
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1395154) said:
@meganata said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1395149) said:
Dr. Robert Malone, the inventor of the mRNA and DNA vaccine core platform technology,


“I recently learned that these vaccines have likely killed over 25,800 Americans (which I confirmed 3 different ways) and disabled at least 1,000,000 more. And we’re only halfway to the finish line. We need to PAUSE these vaccines NOW before more people are killed.

Based on what I now know about the miniscule vaccine benefits (approximately a 0.3% reduction in absolute risk), side effects (including death), current COVID rates, and the success rate of early treatment protocols, the answer I would give today to anyone asking me for advice as to whether to take any of the current vaccines would be, ‘Just say NO.’

The current vaccines are particularly contraindicated if you have already been infected with COVID or are under age 20. For these people, I would say ‘NO! NO! NO!’

In this article, I will explain what I have learned since I was vaccinated that totally changed my mind. You will learn how these vaccines work and the shortcuts that led to the mistakes that were made.

You will understand why there are so many side effects and why these are so varied and why they usually happen within 30 days of vaccination. You will understand why kids are having heart issues (for which there is no treatment), and temporarily losing their sight, and ability to talk. You will understand why as many as 3% may be severely disabled by the vaccine.”

Do have a link for this article?

That is NOT a quote from Robert Malone, it’s a quote from Steve Kirsch. Misrepresentation and misquoting is counterproductive to having a balance discussion on this topic
 
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1395154) said:
@meganata said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1395149) said:
Dr. Robert Malone, the inventor of the mRNA and DNA vaccine core platform technology,


“I recently learned that these vaccines have likely killed over 25,800 Americans (which I confirmed 3 different ways) and disabled at least 1,000,000 more. And we’re only halfway to the finish line. We need to PAUSE these vaccines NOW before more people are killed.

Based on what I now know about the miniscule vaccine benefits (approximately a 0.3% reduction in absolute risk), side effects (including death), current COVID rates, and the success rate of early treatment protocols, the answer I would give today to anyone asking me for advice as to whether to take any of the current vaccines would be, ‘Just say NO.’

The current vaccines are particularly contraindicated if you have already been infected with COVID or are under age 20. For these people, I would say ‘NO! NO! NO!’

In this article, I will explain what I have learned since I was vaccinated that totally changed my mind. You will learn how these vaccines work and the shortcuts that led to the mistakes that were made.

You will understand why there are so many side effects and why these are so varied and why they usually happen within 30 days of vaccination. You will understand why kids are having heart issues (for which there is no treatment), and temporarily losing their sight, and ability to talk. You will understand why as many as 3% may be severely disabled by the vaccine.”

Do have a link for this article?

It’s not Robert Malone it’s Steve Kirsch. It’s here.
https://trialsitenews.com/should-you-get-vaccinated/

A lot of facts amongst a lot of hyperbole.
 
https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2021/06/14/covid-19-vaccine-mistake.aspx?ui=88138795d76b21e39628d2cc85b02d57ca6b9181440cf0c220400dce37dd43ba&sd=19000101&cid_source=dnl&cid_medium=email&cid_content=art1HL&cid=20210614&mid=DM903835&rid=1182615764&p4=20210531&p5=

Have a read
 
@meganata said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1395254) said:
https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2021/06/14/covid-19-vaccine-mistake.aspx?ui=88138795d76b21e39628d2cc85b02d57ca6b9181440cf0c220400dce37dd43ba&sd=19000101&cid_source=dnl&cid_medium=email&cid_content=art1HL&cid=20210614&mid=DM903835&rid=1182615764&p4=20210531&p5=

Have a read

Mate the article is by Joseph Mercola. There is no way I would take any notice of an alternative medicine snake oil salesman who sells his supplements and devices to the gullible public. Basically he’s a wack-a-doodle.
 
@meganata said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1395254) said:
https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2021/06/14/covid-19-vaccine-mistake.aspx?ui=88138795d76b21e39628d2cc85b02d57ca6b9181440cf0c220400dce37dd43ba&sd=19000101&cid_source=dnl&cid_medium=email&cid_content=art1HL&cid=20210614&mid=DM903835&rid=1182615764&p4=20210531&p5=

Have a read

I think your agenda is pretty clear here, you are on a Rugby League forum and not one of your 18 posts have been football related.
 
@formerguest said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1390752) said:
Seems that I cannot book an appointment right now as they haven't openings for Pfizer as a 55 year old as yet, but the site states booking will become available in the next few days.

Do you have a chronic illness, you might get seen to earlier?
 
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1395313) said:
@meganata said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1395254) said:
https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2021/06/14/covid-19-vaccine-mistake.aspx?ui=88138795d76b21e39628d2cc85b02d57ca6b9181440cf0c220400dce37dd43ba&sd=19000101&cid_source=dnl&cid_medium=email&cid_content=art1HL&cid=20210614&mid=DM903835&rid=1182615764&p4=20210531&p5=

Have a read

I think your agenda is pretty clear here, you are on a Rugby League forum and not one of your 18 posts have been football related.

It's Regan.
 
@meganata said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1395254) said:
https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2021/06/14/covid-19-vaccine-mistake.aspx?ui=88138795d76b21e39628d2cc85b02d57ca6b9181440cf0c220400dce37dd43ba&sd=19000101&cid_source=dnl&cid_medium=email&cid_content=art1HL&cid=20210614&mid=DM903835&rid=1182615764&p4=20210531&p5=

Have a read

Haha, what else have you shared off that charlatan David Avocado Wolfe's site?
 
Apparently the Pfizer vaccine has a casual link to pericarditis.

Wonderful. The AZ vaccine complicates Warfarin, and the Pfizer could cause a heart infection.
 
@cultured_bogan said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1395335) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1395313) said:
@meganata said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1395254) said:
https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2021/06/14/covid-19-vaccine-mistake.aspx?ui=88138795d76b21e39628d2cc85b02d57ca6b9181440cf0c220400dce37dd43ba&sd=19000101&cid_source=dnl&cid_medium=email&cid_content=art1HL&cid=20210614&mid=DM903835&rid=1182615764&p4=20210531&p5=

Have a read

I think your agenda is pretty clear here, you are on a Rugby League forum and not one of your 18 posts have been football related.

It's Regan.

That explains it.
 
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1395313) said:
@meganata said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1395254) said:
https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2021/06/14/covid-19-vaccine-mistake.aspx?ui=88138795d76b21e39628d2cc85b02d57ca6b9181440cf0c220400dce37dd43ba&sd=19000101&cid_source=dnl&cid_medium=email&cid_content=art1HL&cid=20210614&mid=DM903835&rid=1182615764&p4=20210531&p5=

Have a read

I think your agenda is pretty clear here, you are on a Rugby League forum and not one of your 18 posts have been football related.

And he can take a hike.
 
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1395262) said:
@meganata said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1395254) said:
https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2021/06/14/covid-19-vaccine-mistake.aspx?ui=88138795d76b21e39628d2cc85b02d57ca6b9181440cf0c220400dce37dd43ba&sd=19000101&cid_source=dnl&cid_medium=email&cid_content=art1HL&cid=20210614&mid=DM903835&rid=1182615764&p4=20210531&p5=

Have a read

Mate the article is by Joseph Mercola. There is no way I would take any notice of an alternative medicine snake oil salesman who sells his supplements and devices to the gullible public. Basically he’s a wack-a-doodle.


Its not even an article, its a summary of the video I posted earlier in the thread.
 
@cultured_bogan said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1395340) said:
Apparently the Pfizer vaccine has a casual link to pericarditis.

Wonderful. The AZ vaccine complicates Warfarin, and the Pfizer could cause a heart infection.


I know it sounds weird after Meganata's post but have a listen to the video I posted, it links to all the data about it. Real data.
 
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