Coronavirus Outbreak

[mike]

Does anyone have any idea what to do with the millions of Australia's that won't get vaccinated round them up like the Jews in the second world war ? Shoot them ? Split the country in two ?

And unvaccinated business owners they won't enforce the law

And what about the economy ? Can not have 4 to 5 million people not working and if so the crime rate will go to the moon and the black market economy will rise

Nobody will be rounding up anybody. You will find over time that people that are not vaccinated, without a genuine medical reason, will be restricted in what activities they can participate in.

While "unvaccinated business owners they won't enforce the law" the police will.

Yea thafs what i reckon

Its preety much guranteed that u wont be ablr to travel overseas if u havent been vaccinated...heck even domestic maybe

Sport games maybe as well might require it

Eventually imo they will give in and get the jab

It won't stand up in court the Nuremberg trials

Nonsense. It has nothing to do with the Nuremberg Trials or the Nuremberg Code.

 

[Mighty_Tiger]

I reckon percentage of population being vaccinated is not the correct metric for opening up.
How can it be reasonable to open up before every person in the country (including children) has been given the opportunity to be fully vaccinated?
Once we reach that point I'm happy for lockdowns to cease. Sensible restrictions, such as masks in indoor public spaces and mandatory vaccination for some occupations (e.g. age care workers) should continue.
A decent quarantine system for incoming travellers would need to be in place. Not this hotel quarantine rubbish.
I would also be happy for access restrictions to apply to unvaccinated people. Yep, sure they've got rights, but so do the rest of us and their rights don't outweigh ours
.

And your rights don't out weight there's

Best bet wait till Christmas everyone has had the chance to get the Jab those who don't that's their risk and those who have that's there risk as well let's remember the Nuremberg trials


We won't get to 60 percent let alone 50

No, generally speaking my individual rights don't outweigh anybody else's.

But, on the other hand, our individual rights have always been constrained to ensure that we act in a way that is for the general good of our society.

I have a right to drive a car, but only if I'm duly licensed because it's not in society's best interest for it to be otherwise.

I have a right to perform maintenance on my property, but not if it's electrical or plumbing, unless I'm duly licensed, because it's not in society's best interest for it to be otherwise.

And some time in the future, when we've all had the opportunity to be fully vaccinated against Covid 19, our right to go to restaurants or to events may be constrained by whether or not we have opted to be vaccinated. I won't have a problem with that, because I believe it to be in the best interest of our society.

I respect your right to your opinion but there is no way we will get to 60 percent vaccinated on an experimental vaccine so what do you do with the millions of people they all go live in Queensland or make an unvaccinated state inside of Australia and put up a fence around them ?

Please tell me what we do ?

Maybe you should start reading about real science.

"It’s important not to confuse not knowing everything with knowing nothing. The safety data on the mRNA vaccines is robust."

https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/spike-proteins-covid-19-and-vaccines/

Mike I like you your robust and education and have a thick skin but please look at all angles

The professors who say it's not safe have no financial gain they will lose big time $$$$

And the people who will gain $$$$ say it's safe

I will wait until stage 4 is over and make a decision

Just out of curiosity do you get the Flu shot each year?

Doesn't the fact that it changes each year make it experimental and never fully tested?

Sure does

 

[Guest]

I reckon percentage of population being vaccinated is not the correct metric for opening up.
How can it be reasonable to open up before every person in the country (including children) has been given the opportunity to be fully vaccinated?
Once we reach that point I'm happy for lockdowns to cease. Sensible restrictions, such as masks in indoor public spaces and mandatory vaccination for some occupations (e.g. age care workers) should continue.
A decent quarantine system for incoming travellers would need to be in place. Not this hotel quarantine rubbish.
I would also be happy for access restrictions to apply to unvaccinated people. Yep, sure they've got rights, but so do the rest of us and their rights don't outweigh ours
.

And your rights don't out weight there's

Best bet wait till Christmas everyone has had the chance to get the Jab those who don't that's their risk and those who have that's there risk as well let's remember the Nuremberg trials


We won't get to 60 percent let alone 50

No, generally speaking my individual rights don't outweigh anybody else's.

But, on the other hand, our individual rights have always been constrained to ensure that we act in a way that is for the general good of our society.

I have a right to drive a car, but only if I'm duly licensed because it's not in society's best interest for it to be otherwise.

I have a right to perform maintenance on my property, but not if it's electrical or plumbing, unless I'm duly licensed, because it's not in society's best interest for it to be otherwise.

And some time in the future, when we've all had the opportunity to be fully vaccinated against Covid 19, our right to go to restaurants or to events may be constrained by whether or not we have opted to be vaccinated. I won't have a problem with that, because I believe it to be in the best interest of our society.



A mate of mine is a paramedic and has been told that if he is not vaccinated by September he will not lose his job but can not go out in the ambulance to help people and where he works alot of the ambulance paramedics feel the same won't get vaccinated

What's your answer to that ?

Simple, get vaccinated. If he doesn't want to get vaccinated, then I'd suggest he get an education instead, and then get vaccinated.

 

[Guest]

Does anyone have any idea what to do with the millions of Australia's that won't get vaccinated round them up like the Jews in the second world war ? Shoot them ? Split the country in two ?

And unvaccinated business owners they won't enforce the law

And what about the economy ? Can not have 4 to 5 million people not working and if so the crime rate will go to the moon and the black market economy will rise

Nobody will be rounding up anybody. You will find over time that people that are not vaccinated, without a genuine medical reason, will be restricted in what activities they can participate in.

While "unvaccinated business owners they won't enforce the law" the police will.

Yea thafs what i reckon

Its preety much guranteed that u wont be ablr to travel overseas if u havent been vaccinated...heck even domestic maybe

Sport games maybe as well might require it

Eventually imo they will give in and get the jab

It won't stand up in court the Nuremberg trials

Nonsense. It has nothing to do with the Nuremberg Trials or the Nuremberg Code.

You're wasting your breath Mike - the posting style of this fellow is eerily similar to one other who previously predominantly posted in this thread and had no modicum of commonsense.

 

[tigger]

I reckon percentage of population being vaccinated is not the correct metric for opening up.
How can it be reasonable to open up before every person in the country (including children) has been given the opportunity to be fully vaccinated?
Once we reach that point I'm happy for lockdowns to cease. Sensible restrictions, such as masks in indoor public spaces and mandatory vaccination for some occupations (e.g. age care workers) should continue.
A decent quarantine system for incoming travellers would need to be in place. Not this hotel quarantine rubbish.
I would also be happy for access restrictions to apply to unvaccinated people. Yep, sure they've got rights, but so do the rest of us and their rights don't outweigh ours
.

And your rights don't out weight there's

Best bet wait till Christmas everyone has had the chance to get the Jab those who don't that's their risk and those who have that's there risk as well let's remember the Nuremberg trials


We won't get to 60 percent let alone 50

No, generally speaking my individual rights don't outweigh anybody else's.

But, on the other hand, our individual rights have always been constrained to ensure that we act in a way that is for the general good of our society.

I have a right to drive a car, but only if I'm duly licensed because it's not in society's best interest for it to be otherwise.

I have a right to perform maintenance on my property, but not if it's electrical or plumbing, unless I'm duly licensed, because it's not in society's best interest for it to be otherwise.

And some time in the future, when we've all had the opportunity to be fully vaccinated against Covid 19, our right to go to restaurants or to events may be constrained by whether or not we have opted to be vaccinated. I won't have a problem with that, because I believe it to be in the best interest of our society.

I respect your right to your opinion but there is no way we will get to 60 percent vaccinated on an experimental vaccine so what do you do with the millions of people they all go live in Queensland or make an unvaccinated state inside of Australia and put up a fence around them ?

Please tell me what we do ?

I don't agree with premise of your question.

 

[tigger]

I reckon percentage of population being vaccinated is not the correct metric for opening up.
How can it be reasonable to open up before every person in the country (including children) has been given the opportunity to be fully vaccinated?
Once we reach that point I'm happy for lockdowns to cease. Sensible restrictions, such as masks in indoor public spaces and mandatory vaccination for some occupations (e.g. age care workers) should continue.
A decent quarantine system for incoming travellers would need to be in place. Not this hotel quarantine rubbish.
I would also be happy for access restrictions to apply to unvaccinated people. Yep, sure they've got rights, but so do the rest of us and their rights don't outweigh ours
.

And your rights don't out weight there's

Best bet wait till Christmas everyone has had the chance to get the Jab those who don't that's their risk and those who have that's there risk as well let's remember the Nuremberg trials


We won't get to 60 percent let alone 50

No, generally speaking my individual rights don't outweigh anybody else's.

But, on the other hand, our individual rights have always been constrained to ensure that we act in a way that is for the general good of our society.

I have a right to drive a car, but only if I'm duly licensed because it's not in society's best interest for it to be otherwise.

I have a right to perform maintenance on my property, but not if it's electrical or plumbing, unless I'm duly licensed, because it's not in society's best interest for it to be otherwise.

And some time in the future, when we've all had the opportunity to be fully vaccinated against Covid 19, our right to go to restaurants or to events may be constrained by whether or not we have opted to be vaccinated. I won't have a problem with that, because I believe it to be in the best interest of our society.



A mate of mine is a paramedic and has been told that if he is not vaccinated by September he will not lose his job but can not go out in the ambulance to help people and where he works alot of the ambulance paramedics feel the same won't get vaccinated

What's your answer to that ?

The question of whether vaccination should be compulsory for certain categories of workers is certainly a vexed one. It's a debate that we're yet to have because, at the moment, we just don't have sufficient vaccines to do the job anyway. But it's a debate that will be had eventually.

Will vaccination eventually become compulsory for paramedics? I don't know. I have no expertise in that area. I would have thought so, because they would regularly come into contact with people whose immune systems have been compromised. If the question was as simple as "Is the right of a paramedic to remain unvaccinated greater than the right of a patient to stay alive?", then I think the answer would obviously be "No". But I really don't know and there are probably other factors that come into play.

In general terms our individual rights are constrained where they interfere with rights of others to live their lives in a safe environment.

However, in the event that your mate opts to remain unvaccinated he may eventually have to miss out on attending some events, which was the point of my original comments. Compulsory vaccination is another issue altogether.

Not getting vaccinated is a matter of choice, as is the career that you choose to pursue.

Does this person also refuse to be vaccinated for hepatitis and other diseases that they could catch and spread in their line of work.

I don't know. He's not my mate. Maybe @Radoush can answer your question.

 

[earl]

I reckon percentage of population being vaccinated is not the correct metric for opening up.
How can it be reasonable to open up before every person in the country (including children) has been given the opportunity to be fully vaccinated?
Once we reach that point I'm happy for lockdowns to cease. Sensible restrictions, such as masks in indoor public spaces and mandatory vaccination for some occupations (e.g. age care workers) should continue.
A decent quarantine system for incoming travellers would need to be in place. Not this hotel quarantine rubbish.
I would also be happy for access restrictions to apply to unvaccinated people. Yep, sure they've got rights, but so do the rest of us and their rights don't outweigh ours
.

And your rights don't out weight there's

Best bet wait till Christmas everyone has had the chance to get the Jab those who don't that's their risk and those who have that's there risk as well let's remember the Nuremberg trials


We won't get to 60 percent let alone 50

No, generally speaking my individual rights don't outweigh anybody else's.

But, on the other hand, our individual rights have always been constrained to ensure that we act in a way that is for the general good of our society.

I have a right to drive a car, but only if I'm duly licensed because it's not in society's best interest for it to be otherwise.

I have a right to perform maintenance on my property, but not if it's electrical or plumbing, unless I'm duly licensed, because it's not in society's best interest for it to be otherwise.

And some time in the future, when we've all had the opportunity to be fully vaccinated against Covid 19, our right to go to restaurants or to events may be constrained by whether or not we have opted to be vaccinated. I won't have a problem with that, because I believe it to be in the best interest of our society.



A mate of mine is a paramedic and has been told that if he is not vaccinated by September he will not lose his job but can not go out in the ambulance to help people and where he works alot of the ambulance paramedics feel the same won't get vaccinated

What's your answer to that ?

The question of whether vaccination should be compulsory for certain categories of workers is certainly a vexed one. It's a debate that we're yet to have because, at the moment, we just don't have sufficient vaccines to do the job anyway. But it's a debate that will be had eventually.

Will vaccination eventually become compulsory for paramedics? I don't know. I have no expertise in that area. I would have thought so, because they would regularly come into contact with people whose immune systems have been compromised. If the question was as simple as "Is the right of a paramedic to remain unvaccinated greater than the right of a patient to stay alive?", then I think the answer would obviously be "No". But I really don't know and there are probably other factors that come into play.

In general terms our individual rights are constrained where they interfere with rights of others to live their lives in a safe environment.

However, in the event that your mate opts to remain unvaccinated he may eventually have to miss out on attending some events, which was the point of my original comments. Compulsory vaccination is another issue altogether.

Not getting vaccinated is a matter of choice, as is the career that you choose to pursue.

Does this person also refuse to be vaccinated for hepatitis and other diseases that they could catch and spread in their line of work.

I don't know. He's not my mate. Maybe @Radoush can answer your question.

@Radoush knows people who refuse to get vaccinated along with a bunch of his mates who work in health care. He also knows someone who comitted suicide due to the lock down.

He basically knows personally every single edge case that happens in conspiracy theory land. It's amazing right.

Alternatively he lies a lot.

I have my opinion on which option is correct.

 

[Geo]

Campsie


I think they are screwed..

 

[Pascoes_barber]

We'll probably hit 85% next year once the availability issues have been sorted out.

Given the virus will still be floating around, those that choose not to take their chances of contracting the disease along with the risks of dying/surviving on a ventilator as many in the US[*] have found out recently.

[*]99% of recent Covid-related hospitalisations in recent months.

 

[Pascoes_barber]

He basically knows personally every single edge case that happens in conspiracy theory land. It's amazing right.

Alternatively he lies a lot.

I have my opinion on which option is correct.

Nailed it.

 

[Mighty_Tiger]

For all the tough talk about bringing in the military..... the government using the forces for non-defence purposes is 100% illegal.

Defence are often called in to help with Bushfires and floods. They are allowed to be used when a state or national emergency is called.

Floods and bushfires can be justified as defending Commonwealth interests.

Enforcing a state public health order is 100% different.

Looks like the ADF is coming in but you know best.

Fact is the ADF have been helping border protection and in hotel quarantine for last 18mths

Will be waiting for all those law suits to be filled.

 

[old_man_tiger]

I reckon percentage of population being vaccinated is not the correct metric for opening up.
How can it be reasonable to open up before every person in the country (including children) has been given the opportunity to be fully vaccinated?
Once we reach that point I'm happy for lockdowns to cease. Sensible restrictions, such as masks in indoor public spaces and mandatory vaccination for some occupations (e.g. age care workers) should continue.
A decent quarantine system for incoming travellers would need to be in place. Not this hotel quarantine rubbish.
I would also be happy for access restrictions to apply to unvaccinated people. Yep, sure they've got rights, but so do the rest of us and their rights don't outweigh ours
.

And your rights don't out weight there's

Best bet wait till Christmas everyone has had the chance to get the Jab those who don't that's their risk and those who have that's there risk as well let's remember the Nuremberg trials


We won't get to 60 percent let alone 50

No, generally speaking my individual rights don't outweigh anybody else's.

But, on the other hand, our individual rights have always been constrained to ensure that we act in a way that is for the general good of our society.

I have a right to drive a car, but only if I'm duly licensed because it's not in society's best interest for it to be otherwise.

I have a right to perform maintenance on my property, but not if it's electrical or plumbing, unless I'm duly licensed, because it's not in society's best interest for it to be otherwise.

And some time in the future, when we've all had the opportunity to be fully vaccinated against Covid 19, our right to go to restaurants or to events may be constrained by whether or not we have opted to be vaccinated. I won't have a problem with that, because I believe it to be in the best interest of our society.



A mate of mine is a paramedic and has been told that if he is not vaccinated by September he will not lose his job but can not go out in the ambulance to help people and where he works alot of the ambulance paramedics feel the same won't get vaccinated

What's your answer to that ?

The question of whether vaccination should be compulsory for certain categories of workers is certainly a vexed one. It's a debate that we're yet to have because, at the moment, we just don't have sufficient vaccines to do the job anyway. But it's a debate that will be had eventually.

Will vaccination eventually become compulsory for paramedics? I don't know. I have no expertise in that area. I would have thought so, because they would regularly come into contact with people whose immune systems have been compromised. If the question was as simple as "Is the right of a paramedic to remain unvaccinated greater than the right of a patient to stay alive?", then I think the answer would obviously be "No". But I really don't know and there are probably other factors that come into play.

In general terms our individual rights are constrained where they interfere with rights of others to live their lives in a safe environment.

However, in the event that your mate opts to remain unvaccinated he may eventually have to miss out on attending some events, which was the point of my original comments. Compulsory vaccination is another issue altogether.

Not getting vaccinated is a matter of choice, as is the career that you choose to pursue.

Does this person also refuse to be vaccinated for hepatitis and other diseases that they could catch and spread in their line of work.

I don't know. He's not my mate. Maybe @Radoush can answer your question.

@Radoush knows people who refuse to get vaccinated along with a bunch of his mates who work in health care. He also knows someone who comitted suicide due to the lock down.

He basically knows personally every single edge case that happens in conspiracy theory land. It's amazing right.

Alternatively he lies a lot.

I have my opinion on which option is correct.

I have a few edge cases at work, in health. The second I can issue them an ultimatum I will. Then if they don't comply I'll fire them, as unless there are mitigating medical circumstances non-vaccination is malpractice.

Radoush can then open a clinic for people who are happy to put their patients and families at risk and make millions if he or she open a funeral home next door. His/her paramedic mate can drive the hearse.

 

[hobbo1]

Campsie


I think they are screwed..

Ousted on the news

 

[innsaneink]

They should be closed down and deregistered tomorrow

 

[Radoush]

I reckon percentage of population being vaccinated is not the correct metric for opening up.
How can it be reasonable to open up before every person in the country (including children) has been given the opportunity to be fully vaccinated?
Once we reach that point I'm happy for lockdowns to cease. Sensible restrictions, such as masks in indoor public spaces and mandatory vaccination for some occupations (e.g. age care workers) should continue.
A decent quarantine system for incoming travellers would need to be in place. Not this hotel quarantine rubbish.
I would also be happy for access restrictions to apply to unvaccinated people. Yep, sure they've got rights, but so do the rest of us and their rights don't outweigh ours
.

And your rights don't out weight there's

Best bet wait till Christmas everyone has had the chance to get the Jab those who don't that's their risk and those who have that's there risk as well let's remember the Nuremberg trials


We won't get to 60 percent let alone 50

No, generally speaking my individual rights don't outweigh anybody else's.

But, on the other hand, our individual rights have always been constrained to ensure that we act in a way that is for the general good of our society.

I have a right to drive a car, but only if I'm duly licensed because it's not in society's best interest for it to be otherwise.

I have a right to perform maintenance on my property, but not if it's electrical or plumbing, unless I'm duly licensed, because it's not in society's best interest for it to be otherwise.

And some time in the future, when we've all had the opportunity to be fully vaccinated against Covid 19, our right to go to restaurants or to events may be constrained by whether or not we have opted to be vaccinated. I won't have a problem with that, because I believe it to be in the best interest of our society.



A mate of mine is a paramedic and has been told that if he is not vaccinated by September he will not lose his job but can not go out in the ambulance to help people and where he works alot of the ambulance paramedics feel the same won't get vaccinated

What's your answer to that ?

The question of whether vaccination should be compulsory for certain categories of workers is certainly a vexed one. It's a debate that we're yet to have because, at the moment, we just don't have sufficient vaccines to do the job anyway. But it's a debate that will be had eventually.

Will vaccination eventually become compulsory for paramedics? I don't know. I have no expertise in that area. I would have thought so, because they would regularly come into contact with people whose immune systems have been compromised. If the question was as simple as "Is the right of a paramedic to remain unvaccinated greater than the right of a patient to stay alive?", then I think the answer would obviously be "No". But I really don't know and there are probably other factors that come into play.

In general terms our individual rights are constrained where they interfere with rights of others to live their lives in a safe environment.

However, in the event that your mate opts to remain unvaccinated he may eventually have to miss out on attending some events, which was the point of my original comments. Compulsory vaccination is another issue altogether.

Not getting vaccinated is a matter of choice, as is the career that you choose to pursue.

Does this person also refuse to be vaccinated for hepatitis and other diseases that they could catch and spread in their line of work.

I don't know. He's not my mate. Maybe @Radoush can answer your question.

@Radoush knows people who refuse to get vaccinated along with a bunch of his mates who work in health care. He also knows someone who comitted suicide due to the lock down.

He basically knows personally every single edge case that happens in conspiracy theory land. It's amazing right.

Alternatively he lies a lot.

I have my opinion on which option is correct.

I have a few edge cases at work, in health. The second I can issue them an ultimatum I will. Then if they don't comply I'll fire them, as unless there are mitigating medical circumstances non-vaccination is malpractice.

Radoush can then open a clinic for people who are happy to put their patients and families at risk and make millions if he or she open a funeral home next door. His/her paramedic mate can drive the hearse.

Are you saying I will make a killing ?

 

[TigerTone]

Campsie


I think they are screwed..

Ousted on the news

They should be shut down for life.

 

[dazza65]

With some people, unless I can see it, feel it, taste it or smell it, it's not a threat. The socio-economic reference above is 100% correct. But of course you cant actually say it. Can you????


Make welfare benefits dependent upon it and they would be lined up out the door...


I doubt if there is any link between "welfare benefits" and "covid".That sounds suspiciously like the misinformation that you get from the conspirency peddlars


Not the assumption at all. Response to a previous post about socio economic reference...

I apologise if i have misinterpreted your post

All good mate, I’m not easily offended - ?

 

[hobbo1]

Campsie


I think they are screwed..

Ousted on the news

They should be shut down for life.

?

 

[swag_tiger]

All the people who are saying the vaccine's are experimental ones are wrong. The Pizer vaccine deprives from the SAR's vaccine which has been around since 2003.

 

[Nelson]

I reckon percentage of population being vaccinated is not the correct metric for opening up.
How can it be reasonable to open up before every person in the country (including children) has been given the opportunity to be fully vaccinated?
Once we reach that point I'm happy for lockdowns to cease. Sensible restrictions, such as masks in indoor public spaces and mandatory vaccination for some occupations (e.g. age care workers) should continue.
A decent quarantine system for incoming travellers would need to be in place. Not this hotel quarantine rubbish.
I would also be happy for access restrictions to apply to unvaccinated people. Yep, sure they've got rights, but so do the rest of us and their rights don't outweigh ours
.

And your rights don't out weight there's

Best bet wait till Christmas everyone has had the chance to get the Jab those who don't that's their risk and those who have that's there risk as well let's remember the Nuremberg trials


We won't get to 60 percent let alone 50

No, generally speaking my individual rights don't outweigh anybody else's.

But, on the other hand, our individual rights have always been constrained to ensure that we act in a way that is for the general good of our society.

I have a right to drive a car, but only if I'm duly licensed because it's not in society's best interest for it to be otherwise.

I have a right to perform maintenance on my property, but not if it's electrical or plumbing, unless I'm duly licensed, because it's not in society's best interest for it to be otherwise.

And some time in the future, when we've all had the opportunity to be fully vaccinated against Covid 19, our right to go to restaurants or to events may be constrained by whether or not we have opted to be vaccinated. I won't have a problem with that, because I believe it to be in the best interest of our society.



A mate of mine is a paramedic and has been told that if he is not vaccinated by September he will not lose his job but can not go out in the ambulance to help people and where he works alot of the ambulance paramedics feel the same won't get vaccinated

What's your answer to that ?

The question of whether vaccination should be compulsory for certain categories of workers is certainly a vexed one. It's a debate that we're yet to have because, at the moment, we just don't have sufficient vaccines to do the job anyway. But it's a debate that will be had eventually.

Will vaccination eventually become compulsory for paramedics? I don't know. I have no expertise in that area. I would have thought so, because they would regularly come into contact with people whose immune systems have been compromised. If the question was as simple as "Is the right of a paramedic to remain unvaccinated greater than the right of a patient to stay alive?", then I think the answer would obviously be "No". But I really don't know and there are probably other factors that come into play.

In general terms our individual rights are constrained where they interfere with rights of others to live their lives in a safe environment.

However, in the event that your mate opts to remain unvaccinated he may eventually have to miss out on attending some events, which was the point of my original comments. Compulsory vaccination is another issue altogether.

Not getting vaccinated is a matter of choice, as is the career that you choose to pursue.

Does this person also refuse to be vaccinated for hepatitis and other diseases that they could catch and spread in their line of work.

I don't know. He's not my mate. Maybe @Radoush can answer your question.

@Radoush knows people who refuse to get vaccinated along with a bunch of his mates who work in health care. He also knows someone who comitted suicide due to the lock down.

He basically knows personally every single edge case that happens in conspiracy theory land. It's amazing right.

Alternatively he lies a lot.

I have my opinion on which option is correct.

I have a few edge cases at work, in health. The second I can issue them an ultimatum I will. Then if they don't comply I'll fire them, as unless there are mitigating medical circumstances non-vaccination is malpractice.

Radoush can then open a clinic for people who are happy to put their patients and families at risk and make millions if he or she open a funeral home next door. His/her paramedic mate can drive the hearse.

Driving a hearse may prove challenging for a non corporeal figment.