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@radoush said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429737) said:
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429726) said:
@radoush said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429714) said:
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429695) said:
@radoush said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429690) said:
@tigger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429645) said:
@radoush said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429469) said:
@tigger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429438) said:
I reckon percentage of population being vaccinated is not the correct metric for opening up.
How can it be reasonable to open up before every person in the country (including children) has been given the opportunity to be fully vaccinated?
Once we reach that point I'm happy for lockdowns to cease. Sensible restrictions, such as masks in indoor public spaces and mandatory vaccination for some occupations (e.g. age care workers) should continue.
A decent quarantine system for incoming travellers would need to be in place. Not this hotel quarantine rubbish.
I would also be happy for access restrictions to apply to unvaccinated people. Yep, sure they've got rights, but so do the rest of us and their rights don't outweigh ours
.

And your rights don't out weight there's

Best bet wait till Christmas everyone has had the chance to get the Jab those who don't that's their risk and those who have that's there risk as well let's remember the Nuremberg trials


We won't get to 60 percent let alone 50

No, generally speaking my individual rights don't outweigh anybody else's.

But, on the other hand, our individual rights have always been constrained to ensure that we act in a way that is for the general good of our society.

I have a right to drive a car, but only if I'm duly licensed because it's not in society's best interest for it to be otherwise.

I have a right to perform maintenance on my property, but not if it's electrical or plumbing, unless I'm duly licensed, because it's not in society's best interest for it to be otherwise.

And some time in the future, when we've all had the opportunity to be fully vaccinated against Covid 19, our right to go to restaurants or to events may be constrained by whether or not we have opted to be vaccinated. I won't have a problem with that, because I believe it to be in the best interest of our society.

I respect your right to your opinion but there is no way we will get to 60 percent vaccinated on an experimental vaccine so what do you do with the millions of people they all go live in Queensland or make an unvaccinated state inside of Australia and put up a fence around them ?

Please tell me what we do ?

Maybe you should start reading about real science.

"It’s important not to confuse not knowing everything with knowing nothing. The safety data on the mRNA vaccines is robust."

https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/spike-proteins-covid-19-and-vaccines/

Mike I like you your robust and education and have a thick skin but please look at all angles

The professors who say it's not safe have no financial gain they will lose big time $$$$

And the people who will gain $$$$ safe it's safe

I will wait until stage 4 is over and make a decision

It's one Professor and or Doctor, outliers. Get a couple of thousand research scientists, Professors and Doctors to say the same thing and you have a case. But guess what, the scientific consensus is the vaccines are safe. There are specific adverse circumstances (like there are with all medicines) where you should not get a specific vaccine but unless you fall into that category for a particular vaccine, the vaccines are safe.

Mike have you ever been on bitchute ?

Regan used to try and post a lot of nonsense from that site on here. He eventually got the hint.
 
@swag_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429849) said:
All the people who are saying the vaccine's are experimental ones are wrong. The Pizer vaccine deprives from the SAR's vaccine which has been around since 2003.

No one really knows what their talking about with covid clearly
 
@tony-soprano said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429895) said:
@swag_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429849) said:
All the people who are saying the vaccine's are experimental ones are wrong. The Pizer vaccine deprives from the SAR's vaccine which has been around since 2003.

No one really knows what their talking about with covid clearly

That information I got from my doctor and she's been in the practice for 35 years.
 
@swag_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429900) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429895) said:
@swag_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429849) said:
All the people who are saying the vaccine's are experimental ones are wrong. The Pizer vaccine deprives from the SAR's vaccine which has been around since 2003.

No one really knows what their talking about with covid clearly

That information I got from my doctor and she's been in the practice for 35 years.

Wow
 
@tony-soprano said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429901) said:
@swag_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429900) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429895) said:
@swag_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429849) said:
All the people who are saying the vaccine's are experimental ones are wrong. The Pizer vaccine deprives from the SAR's vaccine which has been around since 2003.

No one really knows what their talking about with covid clearly

That information I got from my doctor and she's been in the practice for 35 years.

Wow

So I'd trust her over some internet theroist.
 
QLD health has reversed its decision and is now allowing hotel quarantine occupants onto their balconies.
 
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429958) said:
QLD health has reversed its decision and is now allowing hotel quarantine occupants onto their balconies.

It was a stupid rule.
 
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429960) said:
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429958) said:
QLD health has reversed its decision and is now allowing hotel quarantine occupants onto their balconies.

It was a stupid rule.

Does this mean Jimmy’s ban and fine get scrubbed ?
 
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429960) said:
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429958) said:
QLD health has reversed its decision and is now allowing hotel quarantine occupants onto their balconies.

It was a stupid rule.

The Jimmy the Jet law
 
@hobbo1 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429972) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429960) said:
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429958) said:
QLD health has reversed its decision and is now allowing hotel quarantine occupants onto their balconies.

It was a stupid rule.

Does this mean Jimmy’s ban and fine get scrubbed ?

I think we would have fair grounds to appeal it at least now.
 
@willow said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429978) said:
@hobbo1 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429972) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429960) said:
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429958) said:
QLD health has reversed its decision and is now allowing hotel quarantine occupants onto their balconies.

It was a stupid rule.

Does this mean Jimmy’s ban and fine get scrubbed ?

I think we would have fair grounds to appeal it at least now.

They should
 
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/australia-likely-to-have-80-per-cent-vaccinated-by-march-next-year-20210729-p58e17.html

They are stating in this article that at 80% vaccination and they will open things up in relation to lockdowns. The US is struggling getting past 70% but I reckon there are more loonies there.

They have timelines they state are realistic between the end of this year and march next year. I have 3 kids. I 20 yo, 1 nearly 18 yo and a 10 yo. I'd prefer all of them vaccinated prior to relaxing our approach. I honestly want the 10 yo vaccinated asap. The other 2 I think will get vaccinated within the next couple of months.
 
@swag_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1430002) said:
I'm 21 and I have my first Pizer jab booked in on the 28th of August.

Well wishes brother.
🙌
 
@radoush said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429696) said:
@tigger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429645) said:
@radoush said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429469) said:
@tigger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429438) said:
I reckon percentage of population being vaccinated is not the correct metric for opening up.
How can it be reasonable to open up before every person in the country (including children) has been given the opportunity to be fully vaccinated?
Once we reach that point I'm happy for lockdowns to cease. Sensible restrictions, such as masks in indoor public spaces and mandatory vaccination for some occupations (e.g. age care workers) should continue.
A decent quarantine system for incoming travellers would need to be in place. Not this hotel quarantine rubbish.
I would also be happy for access restrictions to apply to unvaccinated people. Yep, sure they've got rights, but so do the rest of us and their rights don't outweigh ours
.

And your rights don't out weight there's

Best bet wait till Christmas everyone has had the chance to get the Jab those who don't that's their risk and those who have that's there risk as well let's remember the Nuremberg trials


We won't get to 60 percent let alone 50

No, generally speaking my individual rights don't outweigh anybody else's.

But, on the other hand, our individual rights have always been constrained to ensure that we act in a way that is for the general good of our society.

I have a right to drive a car, but only if I'm duly licensed because it's not in society's best interest for it to be otherwise.

I have a right to perform maintenance on my property, but not if it's electrical or plumbing, unless I'm duly licensed, because it's not in society's best interest for it to be otherwise.

And some time in the future, when we've all had the opportunity to be fully vaccinated against Covid 19, our right to go to restaurants or to events may be constrained by whether or not we have opted to be vaccinated. I won't have a problem with that, because I believe it to be in the best interest of our society.



A mate of mine is a paramedic and has been told that if he is not vaccinated by September he will not lose his job but can not go out in the ambulance to help people and where he works alot of the ambulance paramedics feel the same won't get vaccinated

What's your answer to that ?

A friend of mine is a paramedic too, she is vaxxed and most of her colleagues are either a combination of vaxxed fully, partially or on the list.
 
@innsaneink said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1429739) said:
Campsie

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Scumbag opportunists.
 
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