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@snake said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1455598) said:
@tigertone said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1455565) said:
882 cases today and 2 deaths.
Thats a drop from yesterdays numbers.
Lets hope it starts a downward trend and stays that way.
:hand_with_index_and_middle_fingers_crossed: :hand_with_index_and_middle_fingers_crossed: :hand_with_index_and_middle_fingers_crossed:


Stopped giving numbers on how many infected in the community this is the new norm moving forward .. the message is get vaccinated as we’re opening up in months!
The unvaccinated can please themselves … Qld better get there act together as in around 8 weeks NSW will be unlocked !

Yes, Qld with our ZERO cases better get our act together.
 
@dwight-schrute said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1455616) said:
@snake said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1455598) said:
@tigertone said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1455565) said:
882 cases today and 2 deaths.
Thats a drop from yesterdays numbers.
Lets hope it starts a downward trend and stays that way.
:hand_with_index_and_middle_fingers_crossed: :hand_with_index_and_middle_fingers_crossed: :hand_with_index_and_middle_fingers_crossed:


Stopped giving numbers on how many infected in the community this is the new norm moving forward .. the message is get vaccinated as we’re opening up in months!
The unvaccinated can please themselves … Qld better get there act together as in around 8 weeks NSW will be unlocked !

Yes, Qld with our ZERO cases better get our act together.

I know you are being sarcastic but this is the same arrogance that NSW politicians suffered from.

Vaccinated people will get sick and die. Heaps more unvaccinated people will get sick and die. This is pretty close to a pandemic amongst the unvaccinated with a virus that is now highly contagious.

No one can stop this virus over the course of the next couple of years without high vaccination rates.
 
@earl said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1455620) said:
@dwight-schrute said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1455616) said:
@snake said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1455598) said:
@tigertone said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1455565) said:
882 cases today and 2 deaths.
Thats a drop from yesterdays numbers.
Lets hope it starts a downward trend and stays that way.
:hand_with_index_and_middle_fingers_crossed: :hand_with_index_and_middle_fingers_crossed: :hand_with_index_and_middle_fingers_crossed:


Stopped giving numbers on how many infected in the community this is the new norm moving forward .. the message is get vaccinated as we’re opening up in months!
The unvaccinated can please themselves … Qld better get there act together as in around 8 weeks NSW will be unlocked !

Yes, Qld with our ZERO cases better get our act together.

I know you are being sarcastic but this is the same arrogance that NSW politicians suffered from.

Vaccinated people will get sick and die. Heaps more unvaccinated people will get sick and die. This is pretty close to a pandemic amongst the unvaccinated with a virus that is now highly contagious.

No one can stop this virus over the course of the next couple of years without high vaccination rates.

Unless the states implement a permanent hard border because NSW and Vic with not get back down to zero as we have got to live with it now.
 
@swag_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1455612) said:
@mikey said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1455603) said:
Might be unlocked on ourselves but QLD will keep the border shut if they think NSW hasn't done enough. Most people in QLD think the Premier is doing a great job, myself included.
Yes, we will have to learn with it but until vaccination rates are high we shouldn't relax restrictions. We shouldn't also be waving the stick like the NSW government and Scomo are doing - vaccination or suffer is their current policy. Not everyone can get vaccinated atm where I live because there simply aren't enough supplies. We don't have a single case because most people are doing the right thing. All they are doing with the stick is turning people off.

If QLD's expecting us to get to zero that isn't going to happen.

At some point we won't report case numbers. Maybe then QLD can open up.
 
@swag_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1455621) said:
@earl said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1455620) said:
@dwight-schrute said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1455616) said:
@snake said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1455598) said:
@tigertone said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1455565) said:
882 cases today and 2 deaths.
Thats a drop from yesterdays numbers.
Lets hope it starts a downward trend and stays that way.
:hand_with_index_and_middle_fingers_crossed: :hand_with_index_and_middle_fingers_crossed: :hand_with_index_and_middle_fingers_crossed:


Stopped giving numbers on how many infected in the community this is the new norm moving forward .. the message is get vaccinated as we’re opening up in months!
The unvaccinated can please themselves … Qld better get there act together as in around 8 weeks NSW will be unlocked !

Yes, Qld with our ZERO cases better get our act together.

I know you are being sarcastic but this is the same arrogance that NSW politicians suffered from.

Vaccinated people will get sick and die. Heaps more unvaccinated people will get sick and die. This is pretty close to a pandemic amongst the unvaccinated with a virus that is now highly contagious.

No one can stop this virus over the course of the next couple of years without high vaccination rates.

Unless the states implement a permanent hard border because NSW and Vic with not get back down to zero as we have got to live with it now.

My take is that even with a hard border it will get out.
 
@swag_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1455612) said:
@mikey said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1455603) said:
Might be unlocked on ourselves but QLD will keep the border shut if they think NSW hasn't done enough. Most people in QLD think the Premier is doing a great job, myself included.
Yes, we will have to learn with it but until vaccination rates are high we shouldn't relax restrictions. We shouldn't also be waving the stick like the NSW government and Scomo are doing - vaccination or suffer is their current policy. Not everyone can get vaccinated atm where I live because there simply aren't enough supplies. We don't have a single case because most people are doing the right thing. All they are doing with the stick is turning people off.

If QLD's expecting us to get to zero that isn't going to happen.

I don't think they are but at the same time they're trying not to get to the point where NSW is now.
 
@tigertone said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1455565) said:
882 cases today and 2 deaths.
Thats a drop from yesterdays numbers.
Lets hope it starts a downward trend and stays that way.
:hand_with_index_and_middle_fingers_crossed: :hand_with_index_and_middle_fingers_crossed: :hand_with_index_and_middle_fingers_crossed:

But it also follows a plea to 'not get tested unless you have to'.
 
@demps said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1455461) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1455456) said:
I've just finished having a heart to heart with my eldest son about his hesitancy to receive a vaccination. His girlfriend is against vaccination and feeds him her views. I said to him he should respect his girlfriend's views and in return she should respect his. He will be vaccinated tomorrow and I will go with him just to give him moral support.

His cousin is a nurse manager (matron) at a hospital and she had a good chat to him last night about it.

Lovely.

Life is a risk my brothers.
If we do nothing, we are nothing !!

Shout out the akhis:

@hobbo1 @PJ @JC99 @Merlot @Sausagesorcerer @Ponyo @TheDaBoss @Milky @AJ1 @BalmainJnr @TIGERPOWER @RoeJogan @Trusted_Insider @teddy23 @AJ1 @Fade-To-Black @Moh @Dwight-Schrute @yeahcaz @851 @rex2ce @simonthetigerrrr @The_Patriot @Aesopian @tigerballs @WT2K @Viking-Warrior

Even though I can't go anywhere, I can still go to work, so I do get out of the house, I am doing better than a lot of others
 
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1455654) said:
My eldest son's girlfriend suggested if he is vaccinated he will become infertile!

Word is that COVID could do that .. has been reported so maybe get vaccinated!
 
@snake said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1455658) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1455654) said:
My eldest son's girlfriend suggested if he is vaccinated he will become infertile!

Word is that COVID could do that .. has been reported so maybe get vaccinated!

If it did cause infertility it wouldn't be accepted for use in Australia.
 
@snake said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1455658) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1455654) said:
My eldest son's girlfriend suggested if he is vaccinated he will become infertile!

Word is that COVID will do that .. has been reported so maybe get vaccinated!

Wow.

My son is only 20. His cousin, a nurse unit manager, reassured him this is untrue. She also suggested he split with his current and she would introduce him to a very nice colleague of hers who is interested him. I encouraged him to take up the offer.
 
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1455654) said:
My eldest son's girlfriend suggested if he is vaccinated he will become infertile!


Your son is in for a very hard life if she becomes a permanent partner,let alone the values she teaches any of their children.
 
@jadtiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1455665) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1455654) said:
My eldest son's girlfriend suggested if he is vaccinated he will become infertile!


Your son is in for a very hard life if she becomes a permanent partner,let alone the values she teaches any of their children.

His cousin is going to introduce him to her colleague who is bright, pretty and from Regional NSW. My son is going to part ways with this current girlfriend today. I believe it is a very wise move (and suggested by his cousin).
 
@earl said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1455613) said:
@mikey said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1455603) said:
Might be unlocked on ourselves but QLD will keep the border shut if they think NSW hasn't done enough. Most people in QLD think the Premier is doing a great job, myself included.
Yes, we will have to learn with it but until vaccination rates are high we shouldn't relax restrictions. We shouldn't also be waving the stick like the NSW government and Scomo are doing - vaccination or suffer is their current policy. Not everyone can get vaccinated atm where I live because there simply aren't enough supplies. We don't have a single case because most people are doing the right thing. All they are doing with the stick is turning people off.

There are some issues here:-

1. The disinformation on the AZ vaccine. It's been a monumental mistake. We have vaccines available we just don't have the Pfizer vaccine available. The AZ vaccine is a really good vaccine.
2. I don't think there is any choice but to wave the stick at people. We can't escape the fact that unvaccinated people cost society significantly more than vaccinated people. How do you get around this ? I'm not even a fan but I cannot rationally see any other option.
3. Vaccine hesitancy is really high until you get outbreaks but by then it's too late for some people. So your comments there could lead to increased deaths and sickness that doesn't have to happen.

I agree and disagree with some of your points.
1. AZ does in fact have issues - that's why there are six permissible reasons to ask for Pfizr. Other than those reasons, it is fine for people (and yes the misinformation has been detrimental).
2. Most people don't need the stick - they want to do the right thing. The misinformation, uncertainy, and mixed messages, did not help. Scomo and other politicans should leave the message to the medical experts rather than playing politics. There are anti-vaxxers but if they choose not to get vaccinated that's there choice. I do think unvaccinated people should be excluded from some things from a safety point of view not as a punishment.
3. My comments will not lead to increased deaths and sickness - my comment smerely point out I think it is the wrong tactic. Give yourself an uppercut from me 🙂
 
@mikey said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1455644) said:
@swag_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1455612) said:
@mikey said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1455603) said:
Might be unlocked on ourselves but QLD will keep the border shut if they think NSW hasn't done enough. Most people in QLD think the Premier is doing a great job, myself included.
Yes, we will have to learn with it but until vaccination rates are high we shouldn't relax restrictions. We shouldn't also be waving the stick like the NSW government and Scomo are doing - vaccination or suffer is their current policy. Not everyone can get vaccinated atm where I live because there simply aren't enough supplies. We don't have a single case because most people are doing the right thing. All they are doing with the stick is turning people off.

If QLD's expecting us to get to zero that isn't going to happen.

I don't think they are but at the same time they're trying not to get to the point where NSW is now.

It's going to get to the point where NSW won't even be counting the cases. They will only count hospital admission.
 
@swag_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1455674) said:
@mikey said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1455644) said:
@swag_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1455612) said:
@mikey said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1455603) said:
Might be unlocked on ourselves but QLD will keep the border shut if they think NSW hasn't done enough. Most people in QLD think the Premier is doing a great job, myself included.
Yes, we will have to learn with it but until vaccination rates are high we shouldn't relax restrictions. We shouldn't also be waving the stick like the NSW government and Scomo are doing - vaccination or suffer is their current policy. Not everyone can get vaccinated atm where I live because there simply aren't enough supplies. We don't have a single case because most people are doing the right thing. All they are doing with the stick is turning people off.

If QLD's expecting us to get to zero that isn't going to happen.

I don't think they are but at the same time they're trying not to get to the point where NSW is now.

It's going to get to the point where NSW won't even be counting the cases. They will only count hospital admission.

That's to save themselves from their own bungling.
 
@mikey said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1455676) said:
@swag_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1455674) said:
@mikey said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1455644) said:
@swag_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1455612) said:
@mikey said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1455603) said:
Might be unlocked on ourselves but QLD will keep the border shut if they think NSW hasn't done enough. Most people in QLD think the Premier is doing a great job, myself included.
Yes, we will have to learn with it but until vaccination rates are high we shouldn't relax restrictions. We shouldn't also be waving the stick like the NSW government and Scomo are doing - vaccination or suffer is their current policy. Not everyone can get vaccinated atm where I live because there simply aren't enough supplies. We don't have a single case because most people are doing the right thing. All they are doing with the stick is turning people off.

If QLD's expecting us to get to zero that isn't going to happen.

I don't think they are but at the same time they're trying not to get to the point where NSW is now.

It's going to get to the point where NSW won't even be counting the cases. They will only count hospital admission.

That's to save themselves from their own bungling.

The report actually says that's the best way to go about it once we reach 70% vaccinated. Europe and America has actually starting going by it.
 
@swag_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1455686) said:
@mikey said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1455676) said:
@swag_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1455674) said:
@mikey said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1455644) said:
@swag_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1455612) said:
@mikey said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1455603) said:
Might be unlocked on ourselves but QLD will keep the border shut if they think NSW hasn't done enough. Most people in QLD think the Premier is doing a great job, myself included.
Yes, we will have to learn with it but until vaccination rates are high we shouldn't relax restrictions. We shouldn't also be waving the stick like the NSW government and Scomo are doing - vaccination or suffer is their current policy. Not everyone can get vaccinated atm where I live because there simply aren't enough supplies. We don't have a single case because most people are doing the right thing. All they are doing with the stick is turning people off.

If QLD's expecting us to get to zero that isn't going to happen.

I don't think they are but at the same time they're trying not to get to the point where NSW is now.

It's going to get to the point where NSW won't even be counting the cases. They will only count hospital admission.

That's to save themselves from their own bungling.

The report actually says that's the best way to go about it once we reach 70% vaccinated. Europe and America has actually starting going by it.

Genuine question. Who wrote the report?
 
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