Coronavirus Outbreak

[Guest]

1290 cases in NSW, 4 more deaths...68% of the population with at least 1 jab now.

 

[jadtiger]

1290 cases in NSW, 4 more deaths...68% of the population with at least 1 jab now.

Grim figures

 

[pawsandclaws1]

Over 80% of cases today in the areas of concern. At some stage, people really have to look at their Covid behaviour.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

It will be a Gold Standard day when Glady actually answers the question that's been asked..

Living freely, living with Covid double dose vaccinations, jabs!

 

[Tim Sheens]

I'll take things that didn't happen for $500, Alex.



This poster has a history of "a friend told me" like posts regarding the virus and vaccination. Should have long been removed for mine.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

Is Gladys delusional? Does she really believe her own spin about NSW showing the rest of Australia how to adapt to living with Covid! There doesn't seem to be a lot of living with it, more like dying and long term illness. Gladys got us into this catastrophe by failing to lockdown early.

 

[Guest]

Over 80% of cases today in the areas of concern. At some stage, people really have to look at their Covid behaviour.

Yes, I would have thought by now they have got the message but the evidence says otherwise. Regional NSW cases are at least stabllising which is good news - hopefully those figures start to drop. As for the hotspots, buggered if I know - I just think the virus will run rampant, hopefully not straining our medical system once lockdown restrictions ease. You know how the old saying goes, give people an inch and they'll take a mile with any easing of restrictions.

 

[Nelson]

Over 80% of cases today in the areas of concern. At some stage, people really have to look at their Covid behaviour.

That's hardly surprising, if the virus is more prevalent in those communities then it is going to transmit more in those communities, including through the inevitable household contacts of infected people. Given the level of compliance I see in my community when I go out to exercise, it would not be faring much better if it had the same prevalence of the virus.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

Over 80% of cases today in the areas of concern. At some stage, people really have to look at their Covid behaviour.

Yes, I would have thought by now they have got the message but the evidence says otherwise. Regional NSW cases are at least stabllising which is good news - hopefully those figures start to drop. As for the hotspots, buggered if I know - I just think the virus will run rampant, hopefully not straining our medical system once lockdown restrictions ease. You know how the old saying goes, give people an inch and they'll take a mile with any easing of restrictions.

Agreed.

The cleaner at the Penrith aged care facility spreading Covid to at least 4 patients is just another example of poor Covid practice. How many deaths does it take until people start to have regard to the safety of others and stop their selfishness?

 

[pawsandclaws1]

Over 80% of cases today in the areas of concern. At some stage, people really have to look at their Covid behaviour.

That's hardly surprising, if the virus is more prevalent in those communities then it is going to transmit more in those communities, including through the inevitable household contacts of infected people. Given the level of compliance I see in my community when I go out to exercise, it would not be faring much better if it had the same prevalence of the virus.

I'd like to believe you are right but practice says otherwise.

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

My sister in law is a close contact with a fellow employee at a essential retail store (will not divulge but you can guess what type of essential retail store I am alluding to,) who tested positive. MIL and other SIL have to isolate 14 days as both work in aged care. FIL is also as he works at another company providing essential retail services, and he has also decided to stay at home for 14 days despite being told he could return to work after providing a negative test.

 

[TrueTiger]

Calling on our residential covid annalists ...Earl and Tiger5150...
I was reading an article in the Daily Mail today that there is a new mutation of covid called C.1.2 ...it has been found in Sth Africa and according to scientists it could be one of the most transmissible and could evade vaccines...
If either of you can clarify what the mutation and immunity means from that variant to the one we have now it would be greatly appreciated ...it has been found in England,New Zealand and some other countries...I dont understand it all,but what I can see is maybe the vax we are getting now may not work against this strain...

 

[Tim Sheens]

Picnic time!

Nah, staying home and doing my bit and not wanting to be one of those lucky enough to have had both shots of my vaccine of choice that gets advantages over others wanting or waiting do not.

Had my second shot this morning and beginning to feel the same symptoms as last time, being fatigued and a bit foggy.

.

 

[Papacito]

It will be a Gold Standard day when Glady actually answers the question that's been asked..


At least she fronts up for the daily NSW briefings.When was the last time you saw "The liar from the Shire" answering questions,much of this problem is because he failed terribly in his vaccine rollout.

100% with the PMs failure.

But, Gladys does not turn up every day. She regularly hides behind others if a question is tricky and walks off stage after an hour.

Dan Andrews turned up every day last year and hung around for 3+ hours until there were no questions left. That's a real leader.

 

[innsaneink]

Over 80% of cases today in the areas of concern. At some stage, people really have to look at their Covid behaviour.

Yes, I would have thought by now they have got the message but the evidence says otherwise. Regional NSW cases are at least stabllising which is good news - hopefully those figures start to drop. As for the hotspots, buggered if I know - I just think the virus will run rampant, hopefully not straining our medical system once lockdown restrictions ease. You know how the old saying goes, give people an inch and they'll take a mile with any easing of restrictions.

Agreed.

The cleaner at the Penrith aged care facility spreading Covid to at least 4 patients is just another example of poor Covid practice. How many deaths does it take until people start to have regard to the safety of others and stop their selfishness?

What's the story there?
Unvaccinated?

 

[Tiger5150]

Calling on our residential covid annalists ...Earl and Tiger5150...
I was reading an article in the Daily Mail today that there is a new mutation of covid called C.1.2 ...it has been found in Sth Africa and according to scientists it could be one of the most transmissible and could evade vaccines...
If either of you can clarify what the mutation and immunity means from that variant to the one we have now it would be greatly appreciated ...it has been found in England,New Zealand and some other countries...I dont understand it all,but what I can see is maybe the vax we are getting now may not work against this strain...

Mate I wouldnt have a clue and neither will Earl.

The WHO has a page listing all variants of concern. beta came from SA and there are a few starting C.1.2.
https://www.who.int/en/activities/tracking-SARS-CoV-2-variants/

Something to consider with all the variants is that its important to remember that a virus isnt a sentient being, it does nothing on purpose or intentionally. Its not technically a living thing.

The way a variant is created is a genetic mutation. What a virus does is it uses your healthy cells as an incubator. The virus binds to your healthy cell and inserts its genetic information (RNA) into your healthy cell which then is used by the virus to create multiple new virus cell. Each time it does this, there is a chance of a minuscule change to the RNA of the virus. If this change translate to something that increases the chance of the virus to reproduce, then by weight of numbers this variation may survive and prosper.

The important thing is that for a variant to be successful, all it needs is to be more easily reproduced so more infectious. Making you more sick or killing you is not something that will improve the success of the variant. The ultimate variant would be very infectious (high R0) but not make you very sick so you are still walking around infectious in the community. A variant that is very infectious but smashes you and hospitalises you quickly would be less successful as it would have less opportunities to reproduce.

One hope would be the emergence of a variant that was super infectious but with very mild symptoms that could race through the population, outcompete Alpha to Delta and achieve herd immunity. Slim hope.

TLDR - There is no necessary scientific reason why each new variant will be more dangerous.

 

[TrueTiger]

Calling on our residential covid annalists ...Earl and Tiger5150...
I was reading an article in the Daily Mail today that there is a new mutation of covid called C.1.2 ...it has been found in Sth Africa and according to scientists it could be one of the most transmissible and could evade vaccines...
If either of you can clarify what the mutation and immunity means from that variant to the one we have now it would be greatly appreciated ...it has been found in England,New Zealand and some other countries...I dont understand it all,but what I can see is maybe the vax we are getting now may not work against this strain...

Mate I wouldnt have a clue and neither will Earl.

The WHO has a page listing all variants of concern. beta came from SA and there are a few starting C.1.2.
https://www.who.int/en/activities/tracking-SARS-CoV-2-variants/

Something to consider with all the variants is that its important to remember that a virus isnt a sentient being, it does nothing on purpose or intentionally. Its not technically a living thing.

The way a variant is created is a genetic mutation. What a virus does is it uses your healthy cells as an incubator. The virus binds to your healthy cell and inserts its genetic information (RNA) into your healthy cell which then is used by the virus to create multiple new virus cell. Each time it does this, there is a chance of a minuscule change to the RNA of the virus. If this change translate to something that increases the chance of the virus to reproduce, then by weight of numbers this variation may survive and prosper.

The important thing is that for a variant to be successful, all it needs is to be more easily reproduced so more infectious. Making you more sick or killing you is not something that will improve the success of the variant. The ultimate variant would be very infectious (high R0) but not make you very sick so you are still walking around infectious in the community. A variant that is very infectious but smashes you and hospitalises you quickly would be less successful as it would have less opportunities to reproduce.

One hope would be the emergence of a variant that which was super infectious but with very mild symptoms that could race through the population, outcompete Alpha to Delta and achieve herd immunity. Slim hope.

TLDR - There is no necessary scientific reason why each new variant will be more dangerous.

Thank you for the reply....everyday it seems the conversation around Covid 19 bears new information which Im stuffed if I know what it all means......

 

[innsaneink]

Best talk to a GP rather than ask.on a footy forum

 

[Snake]

It will be a Gold Standard day when Glady actually answers the question that's been asked..


At least she fronts up for the daily NSW briefings.When was the last time you saw "The liar from the Shire" answering questions,much of this problem is because he failed terribly in his vaccine rollout.

100% with the PMs failure.

But, Gladys does not turn up every day. She regularly hides behind others if a question is tricky and walks off stage after an hour.

Dan Andrews turned up every day last year and hung around for 3+ hours until there were no questions left. That's a real leader.

I wish Dan was our premier has not put a foot wrong !

 

[cochise]

It will be a Gold Standard day when Glady actually answers the question that's been asked..


At least she fronts up for the daily NSW briefings.When was the last time you saw "The liar from the Shire" answering questions,much of this problem is because he failed terribly in his vaccine rollout.

100% with the PMs failure.

But, Gladys does not turn up every day. She regularly hides behind others if a question is tricky and walks off stage after an hour.

Dan Andrews turned up every day last year and hung around for 3+ hours until there were no questions left. That's a real leader.

I wish Dan was our premier has not put a foot wrong !

Didn't he miss a step a some point?