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@jadtiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1484068) said:
I wonder who the new poster above me is?3 posts and all about covid,never gives up.


Just a link which did not work,all of them looked to be a from dubious source.Old mate will never learn.
 
A peek behind the curtain?

There has been an announcement of a breakthrough drug called Molnupiravir. It is an oral therapeutic that the one clinical study carried out on only 775 patients showed it roughly halved the chances of being hospitalised (From 14% to 8%). In and of itself, not a bad thing.

Where this makes me roll my eyes is the contrast with Ivermectin (a drug which the clinical evidence shows is not statistically effective). There have been over 65 studies into Ivermectin (a drug which the clinical evidence shows is not statistically effective) as both a therapeutic and preventative. 32 of them high standard randomised double blind tests. Tess Lawrie carried out a Meta Analysis of the best 22 studies (highest quality tests) and found tht it had a 62% improvement in hospitalisation and death.
https://flccc.net/flccc-Ivermectin (a drug which the clinical evidence shows is not statistically effective)-in-the-prophylaxis-and-treatment-of-covid-19/

Ok I know everyone is rolling their eyes with me on a Ivermectin (a drug which the clinical evidence shows is not statistically effective) kick again but Im seriously not, Im not advocating its use (I would love to see government trials though). My point is the almost transparent shenanigans that are at play here.

When the FLCCC released its initial findings on Ivermectin (a drug which the clinical evidence shows is not statistically effective), Merck came out quickly in February with a statement that there is no safety data regarding the use of Ivermectin (a drug which the clinical evidence shows is not statistically effective), despite the fact that they held the patent for it and sold hundreds of millions of doses worldwide over 50 years. Ivermectin (a drug which the clinical evidence shows is not statistically effective) is no longer under patent and can be made cheaply by anyone.

Merck held the now lapsed patent for Ivermectin (a drug which the clinical evidence shows is not statistically effective) and released a statement that it is unsafe. Guess who owns the patent for Molnupiravir?

Watch this get fast tracked.
 
@thedaboss said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1484171) said:
@jadtiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1484068) said:
I wonder who the new poster above me is?3 posts and all about covid,never gives up.

What did he say lol

If he told you he would probably get banned as well.
 
@swag_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1484197) said:
I can save my pass off-line on the medi care app and don't even have to log in to my account to access it.

It's good eh?
Makes it simple
 
@innsaneink said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1484288) said:
@swag_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1484197) said:
I can save my pass off-line on the medi care app and don't even have to log in to my account to access it.

It's good eh?
Makes it simple

I expect the final form of the pass to come with a barcode you can scan to get into venues.
 
@tiger5150 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1484261) said:
A peek behind the curtain?

There has been an announcement of a breakthrough drug called Molnupiravir. It is an oral therapeutic that the one clinical study carried out on only 775 patients showed it roughly halved the chances of being hospitalised (From 14% to 8%). In and of itself, not a bad thing.

Where this makes me roll my eyes is the contrast with Ivermectin (a drug which the clinical evidence shows is not statistically effective). There have been over 65 studies into Ivermectin (a drug which the clinical evidence shows is not statistically effective) as both a therapeutic and preventative. 32 of them high standard randomised double blind tests. Tess Lawrie carried out a Meta Analysis of the best 22 studies (highest quality tests) and found tht it had a 62% improvement in hospitalisation and death.
https://flccc.net/flccc-Ivermectin (a drug which the clinical evidence shows is not statistically effective)-in-the-prophylaxis-and-treatment-of-covid-19/

Ok I know everyone is rolling their eyes with me on a Ivermectin (a drug which the clinical evidence shows is not statistically effective) kick again but Im seriously not, Im not advocating its use (I would love to see government trials though). My point is the almost transparent shenanigans that are at play here.

When the FLCCC released its initial findings on Ivermectin (a drug which the clinical evidence shows is not statistically effective), Merck came out quickly in February with a statement that there is no safety data regarding the use of Ivermectin (a drug which the clinical evidence shows is not statistically effective), despite the fact that they held the patent for it and sold hundreds of millions of doses worldwide over 50 years. Ivermectin (a drug which the clinical evidence shows is not statistically effective) is no longer under patent and can be made cheaply by anyone.

Merck held the now lapsed patent for Ivermectin (a drug which the clinical evidence shows is not statistically effective) and released a statement that it is unsafe. Guess who owns the patent for Molnupiravir?

Watch this get fast tracked.

Saw that today, like a 5pill dosage as soon as symptoms starts. It did say targeting the vulnerable & tesr studies so far on unvacvinated. Not sure if it heard right but cost around $700?

You do wonder about Merck with Ivermectin (a drug which the clinical evidence shows is not statistically effective) out of patent obviously not much money in it, discredit it & come up with new this new covid pill. Be interesting what is actually in it.
 
@swag_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1484312) said:
@innsaneink said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1484288) said:
@swag_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1484197) said:
I can save my pass off-line on the medi care app and don't even have to log in to my account to access it.

It's good eh?
Makes it simple

I expect the final form of the pass to come with a barcode you can scan to get into venues.

In NSW it is supposed to be that you get a green tick on your screen when you check in with the QR code.
 
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1484334) said:
@swag_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1484312) said:
@innsaneink said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1484288) said:
@swag_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1484197) said:
I can save my pass off-line on the medi care app and don't even have to log in to my account to access it.

It's good eh?
Makes it simple

I expect the final form of the pass to come with a barcode you can scan to get into venues.

In NSW it is supposed to be that you get a green tick on your screen when you check in with the QR code.

Champion @cochise - when is this expected to happen?
 
@tiger_one said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1484337) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1484334) said:
@swag_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1484312) said:
@innsaneink said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1484288) said:
@swag_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1484197) said:
I can save my pass off-line on the medi care app and don't even have to log in to my account to access it.

It's good eh?
Makes it simple

I expect the final form of the pass to come with a barcode you can scan to get into venues.

In NSW it is supposed to be that you get a green tick on your screen when you check in with the QR code.

Champion @cochise - when is this expected to happen?

I think they are still working on it so might not be out until after we open up so I would download the certificate and keep on your phone just in case.
 
Seems like all this hate for Glady's is because people don't like the fact that she was pushing for vaccines. If they think me will go back to normal when up and the passes and everything Covid related will be scrapped they are wrong from day 1 they are wrong.
 
@wicked_j said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1484190) said:
When things starts to open back up for fully vaccinated people, does that also mean only fully vaccinated workers can go back to non-essential jobs? Or do the restriction only apply to customers? My wife is trying to find out because her workplace is opening back up, they don't seem to one and neither does the helpline.

Also, does anyone know much about how workers rights/health & safety/duty of care come in to play? My wife is pregnant, and it hasn't been easy (she has HG and GD, so already considered a higher risk pregnancy), so she is at a higher risk when it comes to Covid. She's due to get her second vaccination a week or so after her workplace opens back up, but is worried about going back to work before the 2 week period (if at all), but is also worried about losing her job over it. Any suggestions would be much appreciated (we've tried talking to the helpline and to safe work NSW, she's seeing a doctor today and we'll try fair work next week).

There is a big case in the high court in Sydney at the moment
When the decision comes down one way or another you will know but if the guy wins it will be illegal to ask for vaccinated status and to force vaccination on someone or discriminate against unvaccinated
 
@odessa said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1484398) said:
@wicked_j said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1484190) said:
When things starts to open back up for fully vaccinated people, does that also mean only fully vaccinated workers can go back to non-essential jobs? Or do the restriction only apply to customers? My wife is trying to find out because her workplace is opening back up, they don't seem to one and neither does the helpline.

Also, does anyone know much about how workers rights/health & safety/duty of care come in to play? My wife is pregnant, and it hasn't been easy (she has HG and GD, so already considered a higher risk pregnancy), so she is at a higher risk when it comes to Covid. She's due to get her second vaccination a week or so after her workplace opens back up, but is worried about going back to work before the 2 week period (if at all), but is also worried about losing her job over it. Any suggestions would be much appreciated (we've tried talking to the helpline and to safe work NSW, she's seeing a doctor today and we'll try fair work next week).

There is a big case in the high court in Sydney at the moment
When the decision comes down one way or another you will know but if the guy wins it will be illegal to ask for vaccinated status and to force vaccination on someone or discriminate against unvaccinated



Sorry supreme Court Henry vs Hazzard is the case
 
@odessa said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1484398) said:
@wicked_j said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1484190) said:
When things starts to open back up for fully vaccinated people, does that also mean only fully vaccinated workers can go back to non-essential jobs? Or do the restriction only apply to customers? My wife is trying to find out because her workplace is opening back up, they don't seem to one and neither does the helpline.

Also, does anyone know much about how workers rights/health & safety/duty of care come in to play? My wife is pregnant, and it hasn't been easy (she has HG and GD, so already considered a higher risk pregnancy), so she is at a higher risk when it comes to Covid. She's due to get her second vaccination a week or so after her workplace opens back up, but is worried about going back to work before the 2 week period (if at all), but is also worried about losing her job over it. Any suggestions would be much appreciated (we've tried talking to the helpline and to safe work NSW, she's seeing a doctor today and we'll try fair work next week).

There is a big case in the high court in Sydney at the moment
When the decision comes down one way or another you will know but if the guy wins it will be illegal to ask for vaccinated status and to force vaccination on someone or discriminate against unvaccinated

Vaccination status has been requested for many years?
 
@odessa said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1484398) said:
@wicked_j said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1484190) said:
When things starts to open back up for fully vaccinated people, does that also mean only fully vaccinated workers can go back to non-essential jobs? Or do the restriction only apply to customers? My wife is trying to find out because her workplace is opening back up, they don't seem to one and neither does the helpline.

Also, does anyone know much about how workers rights/health & safety/duty of care come in to play? My wife is pregnant, and it hasn't been easy (she has HG and GD, so already considered a higher risk pregnancy), so she is at a higher risk when it comes to Covid. She's due to get her second vaccination a week or so after her workplace opens back up, but is worried about going back to work before the 2 week period (if at all), but is also worried about losing her job over it. Any suggestions would be much appreciated (we've tried talking to the helpline and to safe work NSW, she's seeing a doctor today and we'll try fair work next week).

There is a big case in the high court in Sydney at the moment
When the decision comes down one way or another you will know but if the guy wins it will be illegal to ask for vaccinated status and to force vaccination on someone or discriminate against unvaccinated

Could be a disaster when it comes to companies trying to avoid deep cleaning. Next thing you know deep cleaning will be discrimination against the unvaccinated.
 
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1484404) said:
@odessa said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1484398) said:
@wicked_j said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1484190) said:
When things starts to open back up for fully vaccinated people, does that also mean only fully vaccinated workers can go back to non-essential jobs? Or do the restriction only apply to customers? My wife is trying to find out because her workplace is opening back up, they don't seem to one and neither does the helpline.

Also, does anyone know much about how workers rights/health & safety/duty of care come in to play? My wife is pregnant, and it hasn't been easy (she has HG and GD, so already considered a higher risk pregnancy), so she is at a higher risk when it comes to Covid. She's due to get her second vaccination a week or so after her workplace opens back up, but is worried about going back to work before the 2 week period (if at all), but is also worried about losing her job over it. Any suggestions would be much appreciated (we've tried talking to the helpline and to safe work NSW, she's seeing a doctor today and we'll try fair work next week).

There is a big case in the high court in Sydney at the moment
When the decision comes down one way or another you will know but if the guy wins it will be illegal to ask for vaccinated status and to force vaccination on someone or discriminate against unvaccinated

Vaccination status has been requested for many years?

My understanding is that it has never been challenge in court until now

Abit like Terry Hill and the draft I guess untill it's challenge but I am no legal expert
 
@swag_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1484405) said:
@odessa said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1484398) said:
@wicked_j said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1484190) said:
When things starts to open back up for fully vaccinated people, does that also mean only fully vaccinated workers can go back to non-essential jobs? Or do the restriction only apply to customers? My wife is trying to find out because her workplace is opening back up, they don't seem to one and neither does the helpline.

Also, does anyone know much about how workers rights/health & safety/duty of care come in to play? My wife is pregnant, and it hasn't been easy (she has HG and GD, so already considered a higher risk pregnancy), so she is at a higher risk when it comes to Covid. She's due to get her second vaccination a week or so after her workplace opens back up, but is worried about going back to work before the 2 week period (if at all), but is also worried about losing her job over it. Any suggestions would be much appreciated (we've tried talking to the helpline and to safe work NSW, she's seeing a doctor today and we'll try fair work next week).

There is a big case in the high court in Sydney at the moment
When the decision comes down one way or another you will know but if the guy wins it will be illegal to ask for vaccinated status and to force vaccination on someone or discriminate against unvaccinated

Could be a disaster when it comes to companies trying to avoid deep cleaning. Next thing you know deep cleaning will be discrimination against the unvaccinated.

Have you read lately about deep cleaning of late you can do it yourself overnight with some chemicals I was thinking you had to get people in with Hazmat suites on or something they made it cheap and easy
 
@odessa said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1484417) said:
@swag_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1484405) said:
@odessa said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1484398) said:
@wicked_j said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1484190) said:
When things starts to open back up for fully vaccinated people, does that also mean only fully vaccinated workers can go back to non-essential jobs? Or do the restriction only apply to customers? My wife is trying to find out because her workplace is opening back up, they don't seem to one and neither does the helpline.

Also, does anyone know much about how workers rights/health & safety/duty of care come in to play? My wife is pregnant, and it hasn't been easy (she has HG and GD, so already considered a higher risk pregnancy), so she is at a higher risk when it comes to Covid. She's due to get her second vaccination a week or so after her workplace opens back up, but is worried about going back to work before the 2 week period (if at all), but is also worried about losing her job over it. Any suggestions would be much appreciated (we've tried talking to the helpline and to safe work NSW, she's seeing a doctor today and we'll try fair work next week).

There is a big case in the high court in Sydney at the moment
When the decision comes down one way or another you will know but if the guy wins it will be illegal to ask for vaccinated status and to force vaccination on someone or discriminate against unvaccinated

Could be a disaster when it comes to companies trying to avoid deep cleaning. Next thing you know deep cleaning will be discrimination against the unvaccinated.

Have you read lately about deep cleaning of late you can do it yourself overnight with some chemicals I was thinking you had to get people in with Hazmat suites on or something they made it cheap and easy

And then a 2 week holiday is needed for everyone working in the premises.
 
@swag_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1484420) said:
@odessa said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1484417) said:
@swag_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1484405) said:
@odessa said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1484398) said:
@wicked_j said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1484190) said:
When things starts to open back up for fully vaccinated people, does that also mean only fully vaccinated workers can go back to non-essential jobs? Or do the restriction only apply to customers? My wife is trying to find out because her workplace is opening back up, they don't seem to one and neither does the helpline.

Also, does anyone know much about how workers rights/health & safety/duty of care come in to play? My wife is pregnant, and it hasn't been easy (she has HG and GD, so already considered a higher risk pregnancy), so she is at a higher risk when it comes to Covid. She's due to get her second vaccination a week or so after her workplace opens back up, but is worried about going back to work before the 2 week period (if at all), but is also worried about losing her job over it. Any suggestions would be much appreciated (we've tried talking to the helpline and to safe work NSW, she's seeing a doctor today and we'll try fair work next week).

There is a big case in the high court in Sydney at the moment
When the decision comes down one way or another you will know but if the guy wins it will be illegal to ask for vaccinated status and to force vaccination on someone or discriminate against unvaccinated

Could be a disaster when it comes to companies trying to avoid deep cleaning. Next thing you know deep cleaning will be discrimination against the unvaccinated.

Have you read lately about deep cleaning of late you can do it yourself overnight with some chemicals I was thinking you had to get people in with Hazmat suites on or something they made it cheap and easy

And then a 2 week holiday is needed for everyone working in the premises.

No they cut that out you can trade next day
 
@swag_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1484420) said:
@odessa said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1484417) said:
@swag_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1484405) said:
@odessa said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1484398) said:
@wicked_j said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1484190) said:
When things starts to open back up for fully vaccinated people, does that also mean only fully vaccinated workers can go back to non-essential jobs? Or do the restriction only apply to customers? My wife is trying to find out because her workplace is opening back up, they don't seem to one and neither does the helpline.

Also, does anyone know much about how workers rights/health & safety/duty of care come in to play? My wife is pregnant, and it hasn't been easy (she has HG and GD, so already considered a higher risk pregnancy), so she is at a higher risk when it comes to Covid. She's due to get her second vaccination a week or so after her workplace opens back up, but is worried about going back to work before the 2 week period (if at all), but is also worried about losing her job over it. Any suggestions would be much appreciated (we've tried talking to the helpline and to safe work NSW, she's seeing a doctor today and we'll try fair work next week).

There is a big case in the high court in Sydney at the moment
When the decision comes down one way or another you will know but if the guy wins it will be illegal to ask for vaccinated status and to force vaccination on someone or discriminate against unvaccinated

Could be a disaster when it comes to companies trying to avoid deep cleaning. Next thing you know deep cleaning will be discrimination against the unvaccinated.

Have you read lately about deep cleaning of late you can do it yourself overnight with some chemicals I was thinking you had to get people in with Hazmat suites on or something they made it cheap and easy

And then a 2 week holiday is needed for everyone working in the premises.


Closing down the premises

Businesses do not necessarily have to close following detection of a confirmed case on the premises. Closure depends on a few things:

Public health risk assessment undertaken by the Public Health Unit.
Cleaning requirements. Premises must be appropriately cleaned following attendance of a confirmed case. This can be done overnight so as not to disrupt normal business hours.
Staffing implications. If staff are identified as close contacts and need to self-isolate, the business may not have enough staff available to remain operational.
Timing of the notification. If premises are notified during business hours they may need to close to undertake cleaning.

Cleaning guidance

All areas used by any suspected or confirmed case of COVID-19 should be cleaned and disinfected.

For hard surfaces, either:

use detergent and water for cleaning followed by disinfectant solution (2-step clean)
use a combined detergent and disinfectant solution (2-in-1 clean).

For more information on cleaning, visit Safe Work Australia.

NSW Health does not require that a specialist cleaning company be used, but you can if you want to.
 
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