Coronavirus Outbreak

[swag_tiger]

Quarantine abolished for vaccinated international arrivals.

It's a free for all. Good luck to the health care workers.

What makes you say that?

 

[gallagher]

Quarantine abolished for vaccinated international arrivals.

It's a free for all. Good luck to the health care workers.

What makes you say that?

20% unvaccinated . That's a big number in Sydney

 

[Guest]

Well the Supreme Court tossed out two cases challenging mandatory vaccinations for essential workers.

In the court’s judgment, the judge directly addressed the argument that NSW’s vaccine orders were a breach of bodily integrity. He dismissed the notion.

“So far as the right to bodily integrity is concerned, it is not violated as the impugned orders do not authorise the involuntary vaccination of anyone.”

The hearing made headlines earlier in the week after anti-vaxxers circulated fraudulent court transcripts purporting to show one of the state’s leading infectious diseases experts admitting the vaccines had not been adequately tested and were unsafe.

The fake court transcript was outed on NSW Police’s Facebook page on Wednesday as it began circulating among anti-vaccination groups.

Police shared the transcript with bold red letters declaring it “DEBUNKED” by fact checkers from Melbourne’s RMIT University. The fact checkers labelled it “wholly inaccurate”.

The fake document contained fabricated statements from Professor Kristine Macartney, the Director of the National Centre for Immunisation Research and Surveillance (NCIRS), about what she said in the NSW Supreme Court.

Prof Macartney had given evidence in a case brought against NSW Health Minister Brad Hazzard, which seeks to overturn mandatory Covid-19 vaccine requirements for public sector workers.

The document claimed Prof Macartney told the court “yes” when asked whether “double vaxxed people are 13 times more likely to catch the virus”.

In a statement on Wednesday, Prof Macartney and the NCIRS corrected the record.

“We are aware of misinformation being shared online and on social media platforms regarding NCIRS Director Professor Kristine Macartney’s recent appearance as an expert witness in a case before the Supreme Court of New South Wales,” the statement read.

 

[earl]

“We are aware of misinformation being shared online and on social media platforms regarding NCIRS Director Professor Kristine Macartney’s recent appearance as an expert witness in a case before the Supreme Court of New South Wales,” the statement read.

I get so freaken angry reading this stuff. I don't care if you don't get vaccinated. It's a stupid decision for basically every individual person but you can choose not to get vaccinated. I don't care. The lying about it makes me sick.

 

[Pascoes_barber]

Someone was 'sharing' that nonsense in this very thread a couple of weeks ago.

 

[mike]

Quarantine abolished for vaccinated international arrivals.

It's a free for all. Good luck to the health care workers.

What makes you say that?

20% unvaccinated . That's a big number in Sydney

Spoke to some medicos the other day. The problem they see going forward are the unvaccinated kids. They will be OK themselves but they will be the spreaders. That’s the danger.

Remember the 70%, 80% etc vaccinated statements only refer to those that are eligible to be vaccinated, so the youngest members of the community are not included. The actual vaccination rates of the entire population is therefore somewhat lower than what is quoted.

Hopefully no massive spike eventuates as a result of opening up early.

 

[swag_tiger]

“We are aware of misinformation being shared online and on social media platforms regarding NCIRS Director Professor Kristine Macartney’s recent appearance as an expert witness in a case before the Supreme Court of New South Wales,” the statement read.

I get so freaken angry reading this stuff. I don't care if you don't get vaccinated. It's a stupid decision for basically every individual person but you can choose not to get vaccinated. I don't care. The lying about it makes me sick.

The fact that they twist the vaccinated are 13 times more likely to get Covid a 2nd time into " The vaccinated are 13 times more infectious"

 

[tigger]

This is a piece written by Virginia Trioli about the impact of the "Covid roadmap" on health workers and the health care systems. I think it's well worth a read.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-16/covid-lockdown-relief-heavy-weight-healthcare-workers-shoulders/100541608

 

[barra]

Quarantine abolished for vaccinated international arrivals.

If you're an Australian citizen and if you tested negative before boarding flight.

 

[Harvey]

Quarantine abolished for vaccinated international arrivals.

If you're an Australian citizen and if you tested negative before boarding flight.

How many tested negative before disembarking the Ruby Princess? Madness

 

[cochise]

Quarantine abolished for vaccinated international arrivals.

If you're an Australian citizen and if you tested negative before boarding flight.

How many tested negative before disembarking the Ruby Princess? Madness

This is no longer about keeping cases down, there are going to be a huge amount of cases moving forward.

 

[Tiger5150]

Probably way too early but it has been 5 days since restrictions eased in Sydney and numbers continue to drop. Hope it keeps up.

 

[cochise]

Probably way too early but it has been 5 days since restrictions eased in Sydney and numbers continue to drop. Hope it keeps up.

Next week is crucial in that regard.

 

[mike]

Probably way too early but it has been 5 days since restrictions eased in Sydney and numbers continue to drop. Hope it keeps up.

Wait another fortnight and then see after the first weekend of less restrictions this weekend.

 

[swag_tiger]

Finally going fishing today.

 

[nrlsurvivor]

Is anyone nervous about sending their kids back to school? We were due to send my child back tomorrow but my partner is now saying she wants to keep them at home citing the minor risk to children under 12 dying from covid. Does anyone know what the data says about the risks?

 

[cochise]

Is anyone nervous about sending their kids back to school? We were due to send my child back tomorrow but my partner is now saying she wants to keep them at home citing the minor risk to children under 12 dying from covid. Does anyone know what the data says about the risks?

I sent my daughter back last week, would have preferred her to be vaccinated 1st but the risks to children that young is small, they are more likely to be spreaders of covid then fall very ill.

 

[nrlsurvivor]

Is anyone nervous about sending their kids back to school? We were due to send my child back tomorrow but my partner is now saying she wants to keep them at home citing the minor risk to children under 12 dying from covid. Does anyone know what the data says about the risks?

I sent my daughter back last week, would have preferred her to be vaccinated 1st but the risks to children that young is small, they are more likely to be spreaders of covid then fall very ill.

Yeah my wife wants to wait until a vaccine for under 12s is approved. Not sure when that will be.

 

[cochise]

Is anyone nervous about sending their kids back to school? We were due to send my child back tomorrow but my partner is now saying she wants to keep them at home citing the minor risk to children under 12 dying from covid. Does anyone know what the data says about the risks?

I sent my daughter back last week, would have preferred her to be vaccinated 1st but the risks to children that young is small, they are more likely to be spreaders of covid then fall very ill.

Yeah my wife wants to wait until a vaccine for under 12s is approved. Not sure when that will be.

The TGA is accepting applications for approval for 5-11 year olds now with the process of approval to be fast tracked.

 

[Tiger5150]

Is anyone nervous about sending their kids back to school? We were due to send my child back tomorrow but my partner is now saying she wants to keep them at home citing the minor risk to children under 12 dying from covid. Does anyone know what the data says about the risks?

The risk is less than low. This is complete hearsay but I was listening to a podcast yesterday and they were quoting CDC data that said of the 744000 deaths in the US, less than 500 were under 16 and that of those numbers, there was less than 50 kids that died without known serious underlying issues.

Here is some data that is not hearsay that quotes of all the kids (U16) in the US that caught COVID, between 0.00 to 0.03% of them died. Hospitalisations are similarly low.

https://www.aap.org/en/pages/2019-novel-coronavirus-covid-19-infections/children-and-covid-19-state-level-data-report/

THe risk is literally less than dying of cold or flu for kids. You wouldnt keep your kids home for fear of catching a cold or flu.