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@tiger5150 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1493850) said:
@nrlsurvivor said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1493831) said:
Is anyone nervous about sending their kids back to school? We were due to send my child back tomorrow but my partner is now saying she wants to keep them at home citing the minor risk to children under 12 dying from covid. Does anyone know what the data says about the risks?

The risk is less than low. This is complete hearsay but I was listening to a podcast yesterday and they were quoting CDC data that said of the 744000 deaths in the US, less than 500 were under 16 and that of those numbers, there was less than 50 kids that died without known serious underlying issues.

Here is some data that is not hearsay that quotes of all the kids (U16) in the US that caught COVID, between 0.00 to 0.03% of them died. Hospitalisations are similarly low.

https://www.aap.org/en/pages/2019-novel-coronavirus-covid-19-infections/children-and-covid-19-state-level-data-report/

THe risk is literally less than dying of cold or flu for kids. You wouldnt keep your kids home for fear of catching a cold or flu.

Thanks mate, that was what I had been told as well but just didn't have the data to back it, it is why I allowed my daughter to return to school and other activities last week.
 
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1493834) said:
@nrlsurvivor said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1493831) said:
Is anyone nervous about sending their kids back to school? We were due to send my child back tomorrow but my partner is now saying she wants to keep them at home citing the minor risk to children under 12 dying from covid. Does anyone know what the data says about the risks?

I sent my daughter back last week, would have preferred her to be vaccinated 1st but the risks to children that young is small, they are more likely to be spreaders of covid then fall very ill.

All my kids and step kids are vaccinated, the youngest are 17. I dont think I'd get young kids (under 15) vaccinated. The data is very clear that young kids are not getting seriously sick with it. Not to say that others might have a different opinion and do otherwise which is fine obviously, but I think people should be aware of the risk.

I am vaccinated and so is my whole family, which is the outcome of a risk/benefit analysis. The result of that same risk/benefit analysis for very young kids might (would) be totally different.

The thing with young kids is that if this thing sticks around, as they get older, they will need better protection however I would be amazed if in 5 years the vaccines are the same as they are right now.
 
@tiger5150 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1493850) said:
@nrlsurvivor said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1493831) said:
Is anyone nervous about sending their kids back to school? We were due to send my child back tomorrow but my partner is now saying she wants to keep them at home citing the minor risk to children under 12 dying from covid. Does anyone know what the data says about the risks?

The risk is less than low. This is complete hearsay but I was listening to a podcast yesterday and they were quoting CDC data that said of the 744000 deaths in the US, less than 500 were under 16 and that of those numbers, there was less than 50 kids that died without known serious underlying issues.

Here is some data that is not hearsay that quotes of all the kids (U16) in the US that caught COVID, between 0.00 to 0.03% of them died. Hospitalisations are similarly low.

https://www.aap.org/en/pages/2019-novel-coronavirus-covid-19-infections/children-and-covid-19-state-level-data-report/

THe risk is literally less than dying of cold or flu for kids. You wouldnt keep your kids home for fear of catching a cold or flu.

Thanks Tiger. This is exactly the data I was looking for. With vax rates in oz higher than in the USA, I imagine the risk to our kids is even lower.
 
@tiger5150 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1493850) said:
@nrlsurvivor said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1493831) said:
Is anyone nervous about sending their kids back to school? We were due to send my child back tomorrow but my partner is now saying she wants to keep them at home citing the minor risk to children under 12 dying from covid. Does anyone know what the data says about the risks?

The risk is less than low. This is complete hearsay but I was listening to a podcast yesterday and they were quoting CDC data that said of the 744000 deaths in the US, less than 500 were under 16 and that of those numbers, there was less than 50 kids that died without known serious underlying issues.

Here is some data that is not hearsay that quotes of all the kids (U16) in the US that caught COVID, between 0.00 to 0.03% of them died. Hospitalisations are similarly low.

https://www.aap.org/en/pages/2019-novel-coronavirus-covid-19-infections/children-and-covid-19-state-level-data-report/

THe risk is literally less than dying of cold or flu for kids. You wouldnt keep your kids home for fear of catching a cold or flu.

If the risk is between 0.00 to 0.03% for covid, what’s the risk for flu?
 
I just looked it up. 199 deaths in the USA children from flu in 19/20 winter season. It doesn’t report the number of those with underlying conditions.
 
@swag_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1493868) said:
If you want to eradicate Covid or get as close as possible you would get the younger people vaccinated too.

We are not eradicating covid?
 
@nrlsurvivor said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1493864) said:
I just looked it up. 199 deaths in the USA children from flu in 19/20 winter season. It doesn’t report the number of those with underlying conditions.

for that to mean anything, you need to know how many were tested and diagnosed as having caught influenza?
 
@inbenjiwetrust said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1494039) said:
surely this cannot be true?
https://rescue.substack.com/p/horse-bleep-how-4-calls-on-animal?r=nxypy&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email&utm_source=


Depends on how gullible the person reading it is.
 
COVID has killed more police officers in the US than gunfights this year - both statistics are very sad.
 
Over a week now since restrictions reduced and numbers continue to drop. So far so good.
 
@tiger5150 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1495363) said:
Over a week now since restrictions reduced and numbers continue to drop. So far so good.

Testing numbers are also dropping, so no cause for optimism just yet.
 
dont denie the livings freedoms 4 the dead,brave new world,ladies,gents,the country is going broke,get out there good luck,lol
 
@swag_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1495920) said:
All the people saying Covid isn't deadly it's the second deadliest pandemic to date.

Bubonic plague and Spanish flu have this more than covered.

Bubonic plague killed 50 million people, Spanish flu killed 25-50 million as well.
 
@cultured_bogan said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1495928) said:
@swag_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1495920) said:
All the people saying Covid isn't deadly it's the second deadliest pandemic to date.

Bubonic plague and Spanish flu have this more than covered.

Bubonic plague killed 50 million people, Spanish flu killed 25-50 million as well.

HIV/AIDS killed 25 million plus as well.

Relatively COVID isn't that bad an illness but lot's of people have been killed. I look at the figures in Florida with really good health care but dumb policies. They've had over 50k deaths with a smaller population than Australia. Our leading cause of death is heart disease related illnesses at about 18k per year. So without really good policy settings that we've had COVID probably would have been the leading cause of death over the last couple of years.

It's crazy stuff including the pandemics that have happened in the past. I pray (and I'm an atheist) that we don't see anything like this again in our life times.
 
@earl said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1495935) said:
@cultured_bogan said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1495928) said:
@swag_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1495920) said:
All the people saying Covid isn't deadly it's the second deadliest pandemic to date.

Bubonic plague and Spanish flu have this more than covered.

Bubonic plague killed 50 million people, Spanish flu killed 25-50 million as well.

HIV/AIDS killed 25 million plus as well.

Relatively COVID isn't that bad an illness but lot's of people have been killed. I look at the figures in Florida with really good health care but dumb policies. They've had over 50k deaths with a smaller population than Australia. Our leading cause of death is heart disease related illnesses at about 18k per year. So without really good policy settings that we've had COVID probably would have been the leading cause of death over the last couple of years.

It's crazy stuff including the pandemics that have happened in the past. I pray (and I'm an atheist) **that we don't see anything like this again in our life times.**

We will. This is only a mild kick starter to what's coming.
 
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1495947) said:
@earl said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1495935) said:
@cultured_bogan said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1495928) said:
@swag_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1495920) said:
All the people saying Covid isn't deadly it's the second deadliest pandemic to date.

Bubonic plague and Spanish flu have this more than covered.

Bubonic plague killed 50 million people, Spanish flu killed 25-50 million as well.

HIV/AIDS killed 25 million plus as well.

Relatively COVID isn't that bad an illness but lot's of people have been killed. I look at the figures in Florida with really good health care but dumb policies. They've had over 50k deaths with a smaller population than Australia. Our leading cause of death is heart disease related illnesses at about 18k per year. So without really good policy settings that we've had COVID probably would have been the leading cause of death over the last couple of years.

It's crazy stuff including the pandemics that have happened in the past. I pray (and I'm an atheist) **that we don't see anything like this again in our life times.**

We will. This is only a mild kick starter to what's coming.


I remember reading a scientific research article from about 30-40 years ago where it was expected that more pandemics would happen as larger groups of people moved into jungle areas due to expanding populations and exposure to the new environment.Like global warming the conservative establishment poured cold water on the idea,the thoughts on global warming have made a 170 degree change since then with just a few noisy dissenters.
I doubt if it will happen (pandemic) in my lifetime but i am sure it will as larger populations will increase the risk imo
 
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