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@earl said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1512770) said:
@jadtiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1512757) said:
Burn the witches

I am watching a show on the universe. It's amazing how advanced we are and the smart people that are in the world.

Scientists sending satellites to the sun and taking pictures and sending it back to understand it.

Those same people must be in on the same conspiracy. They go through the same educational systems that the doctors and nurses and scientists that investigate modern medicine go through.

Wow.. that actually makes no sense..??
Cog diss be deep Earl ?
 
Why is @leichhardtjunior taking the offensive when ever someone tries to rebuttal anything he says. Seems like most anti vaxxers feel like they are higher up then the people who a vaccinated, they go out of their way to always attack them when they just wanna go their part to get out the the pandemic. I see this on social media all the time. Do they feel validation using the word sheep?
 
https://www.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/australia/national-cabinet-meeting-to-be-held-within-hours-as-omicron-cases-grow/news-story/7b1dfc71619f3dd5a15b1a10edcf4f43

Moderna’s chief executive Stephane Bancel has warned the current crop of vaccines will unlikely be suited to tackle new strains of coronavirus such as Omicron.

Get ready as you will all need to be re - vaccinated…..
 
@earl said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1512770) said:
@jadtiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1512757) said:
Burn the witches

I am watching a show on the universe. It's amazing how advanced we are and the smart people that are in the world.

Scientists sending satellites to the sun and taking pictures and sending it back to understand it.

Those same people must be in on the same conspiracy. They go through the same educational systems that the doctors and nurses and scientists that investigate modern medicine go through.

@Earl Space is pseudo science.
Are these the same scientists who say we can leave Earth, even though its a closed system?. The Dutch national musuem has your fake Moon rocks awaiting collection if you want souvenirs.

We have atmospheric pressure on Earth as gas can't escape.

Satellites are nothing more than high altitute ballons, blimps or light aircrafts. NASA consumes 90% of the Worlds Helium, and it's not due to them being in the kids party industry.

I don't need a .gov or .space website to use critical thinking.

Gravity went from a being a force, to a non force, but actual 'space time'.. Its pseudo science that has never been proven with a real life scientific experiment. Its a mathematical abstract model that lives in the mind.

But keep believing in the Moon landings, ISS floating out there in the middle of nowhere, and some Tesla drifting out in outter space to who knows where. Nothing will ever leave the Earths system. There are so many videos exposing these fake launches, ISS feeds etc. Its a comedy show.

"You can tell it's real because it looks so fake"
Yours truly,
-Elon Musk-
 
The old adage applies in this thread "Drink deeply from the well or not at all for a little knowledge is a dangerous thing".Some of the people on here have not even got their lips wet,number 45 has a lot to answer for in spreading lies as an acceptable way of communication.
 
@eyeofthetiger-0 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1512807) said:
Get ready as you will all need to be re - vaccinated…

A couple of points:-

1. We don't have the data yet. People to me appear to be panicking a bit. We need to wait and see what happens. I mentioned earlier how these mutations don't look good but at the same time it could be that this mutation is significantly less virulent. If it is less virulent and it takes over this could be the end of the COVID pandemic.
2. I'm taking a booster dose. If I have to take another one is it that bad ?
3. Is a vaccine shot assuming it continues to save lives like it has been something that is so terrible. I mean a little jab and saving 10's of thousands of Australian lives is to me a resounding success.
 
@jadtiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1512829) said:
The old adage applies in this thread "Drink deeply from the well or not at all for a little knowledge is a dangerous thing".Some of the people on here have not even got their lips wet,number 45 has a lot to answer for in spreading lies as an acceptable way of communication.

This is what kills me. As human beings we should have a certain level of critical reasoning ability. Then we can discuss topics rationally and logically.

We have people that are completely delusional.

@CocaCola posts stuff that is clearly complete nonsense. It's on the same level as the anti-science brigade on here. People believe that stuff. I am pretty confident he did it as a joke to show the absurdity of the situation.

I have a friend who is schizophrenic. He makes up stories like some of the stuff people have posted on here when he is completely bonkers and gets locked up.
 
@swag_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1512798) said:
Why is @leichhardtjunior taking the offensive when ever someone tries to rebuttal anything he says. Seems like most anti vaxxers feel like they are higher up then the people who a vaccinated, they go out of their way to always attack them when they just wanna go their part to get out the the pandemic. I see this on social media all the time. Do they feel validation using the word sheep?

That’s actually not what I’ve done Swag. Ive not used the word ‘sheep’? And I’m not an ‘anti vaccer’, I’ve explained that already. AND my only point has been around the need to SCRUTINISE the governments narrative and push to MANDATE THESE vaccines.
I’ve taken the offensive over people like Earl and YOU for doing exactly what you’ve just done, again, which is avoid any point made in a post and deflect with stigmatising ‘conspiracy theory’ crap. You guys honestly don’t see how predictable you’re reactions to having your (governments) logic questioned is!?
It’s become so boringly predictable.
There was a time when the ‘accepted science’ and sources of authority said that the world was flat Swag. And they all laughed and ridiculed old mate as he sailed off to surely drop off the edge to his death, in a bid to prove his ‘conspiracy theory’ that the world was actually round.
What an idiot hey, shoulda just followed the popular narrative and stopped questioning authority.
Trouble makers .!? 🙄
 
@leichhardtjunior said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1512845) said:
@swag_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1512798) said:
Why is @leichhardtjunior taking the offensive when ever someone tries to rebuttal anything he says. Seems like most anti vaxxers feel like they are higher up then the people who a vaccinated, they go out of their way to always attack them when they just wanna go their part to get out the the pandemic. I see this on social media all the time. Do they feel validation using the word sheep?

That’s actually not what I’ve done Swag. Ive not used the word ‘sheep’? And I’m not an ‘anti vaccer’, I’ve explained that already. AND my only point has been around the need to SCRUTINISE the governments narrative and push to MANDATE THESE vaccines.
I’ve taken the offensive over people like Earl and YOU for doing exactly what you’ve just done, again, which is avoid any point made in a post and deflect with stigmatising ‘conspiracy theory’ crap. You guys honestly don’t see how predictable you’re reactions to having your (governments) logic questioned is!?
It’s become so boringly predictable.
There was a time when the ‘accepted science’ and sources of authority said that the world was flat Swag. And they all laughed and ridiculed old mate as he sailed off to surely drop off the edge to his death, in a bid to prove his ‘conspiracy theory’ that the world was actually round.
What an idiot hey, shoulda just followed the popular narrative and stopped questioning authority.
Trouble makers .!? ?

I get most of my information from my cousin who's a paramedic and not the media. He actually works with Covid patients and has a couple of people who should haven't fully received from Covid more then a year after catching it most are between 30-50 years of age. He says they all tell him that they would have got the jab if they knew Covid would have effected them that way.
 
@swag_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1512959) said:
@leichhardtjunior said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1512845) said:
@swag_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1512798) said:
Why is @leichhardtjunior taking the offensive when ever someone tries to rebuttal anything he says. Seems like most anti vaxxers feel like they are higher up then the people who a vaccinated, they go out of their way to always attack them when they just wanna go their part to get out the the pandemic. I see this on social media all the time. Do they feel validation using the word sheep?

That’s actually not what I’ve done Swag. Ive not used the word ‘sheep’? And I’m not an ‘anti vaccer’, I’ve explained that already. AND my only point has been around the need to SCRUTINISE the governments narrative and push to MANDATE THESE vaccines.
I’ve taken the offensive over people like Earl and YOU for doing exactly what you’ve just done, again, which is avoid any point made in a post and deflect with stigmatising ‘conspiracy theory’ crap. You guys honestly don’t see how predictable you’re reactions to having your (governments) logic questioned is!?
It’s become so boringly predictable.
There was a time when the ‘accepted science’ and sources of authority said that the world was flat Swag. And they all laughed and ridiculed old mate as he sailed off to surely drop off the edge to his death, in a bid to prove his ‘conspiracy theory’ that the world was actually round.
What an idiot hey, shoulda just followed the popular narrative and stopped questioning authority.
Trouble makers .!? ?

I get most of my information from my cousin who's a paramedic and not the media. He actually works with Covid patients and has a couple of people who should haven't fully received from Covid more then a year after catching it most are between 30-50 years of age. He says they all tell him that they would have got the jab if they knew Covid would have effected them that way.

That’s great, that’s his experience and I’m not doubting it. I also have a family member who is a career nurse who says the incidences of myocarditis in young people after being vaccinated is far more prevalent than being reported. Incidentally she has been vaccinated to keep her job basically, but has advised her 18 and 20yo sons to avoid it, based on her experience. We all have our own experiences and that’s reality. No one’s trying to tell you not to make your choice accordingly. This is about those who expect everyone else to conform to their view and forfeit the right to bodily integrity against their own judgment, to appease someone else’s fear.

Imagine Swag, that there’s a 99.7% chance that you won’t poo your pants, but you’re told to wear a nappy just in case.
Now imagine being made to wear a nappy so your neighbours won’t poo their pants.
 
@leichhardtjunior said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1513018) said:
@swag_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1512959) said:
@leichhardtjunior said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1512845) said:
@swag_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1512798) said:
Why is @leichhardtjunior taking the offensive when ever someone tries to rebuttal anything he says. Seems like most anti vaxxers feel like they are higher up then the people who a vaccinated, they go out of their way to always attack them when they just wanna go their part to get out the the pandemic. I see this on social media all the time. Do they feel validation using the word sheep?

That’s actually not what I’ve done Swag. Ive not used the word ‘sheep’? And I’m not an ‘anti vaccer’, I’ve explained that already. AND my only point has been around the need to SCRUTINISE the governments narrative and push to MANDATE THESE vaccines.
I’ve taken the offensive over people like Earl and YOU for doing exactly what you’ve just done, again, which is avoid any point made in a post and deflect with stigmatising ‘conspiracy theory’ crap. You guys honestly don’t see how predictable you’re reactions to having your (governments) logic questioned is!?
It’s become so boringly predictable.
There was a time when the ‘accepted science’ and sources of authority said that the world was flat Swag. And they all laughed and ridiculed old mate as he sailed off to surely drop off the edge to his death, in a bid to prove his ‘conspiracy theory’ that the world was actually round.
What an idiot hey, shoulda just followed the popular narrative and stopped questioning authority.
Trouble makers .!? ?

I get most of my information from my cousin who's a paramedic and not the media. He actually works with Covid patients and has a couple of people who should haven't fully received from Covid more then a year after catching it most are between 30-50 years of age. He says they all tell him that they would have got the jab if they knew Covid would have effected them that way.

That’s great, that’s his experience and I’m not doubting it. I also have a family member who is a career nurse who says the incidences of myocarditis in young people after being vaccinated is far more prevalent than being reported. Incidentally she has been vaccinated to keep her job basically, but has advised her 18 and 20yo sons to avoid it, based on her experience. We all have our own experiences and that’s reality. No one’s trying to tell you not to make your choice accordingly. This is about those who expect everyone else to conform to their view and forfeit the right to bodily integrity against their own judgment, to appease someone else’s fear.

Imagine Swag, that there’s a 99.7% chance that you won’t poo your pants, but you’re told to wear a nappy just in case.
Now imagine being made to wear a nappy so your neighbours won’t poo their pants.

This is 100% about COVID and the MANDATING of THE CURRENT VACCINES and nothing else.

The numbers and science relevant to COVID and THESE VACCINES do NOT justify that action.
Those who stand to profit from it and the conformist or alarmist people below them do.
 
@cocacola said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1512810) said:
@earl said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1512770) said:
@jadtiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1512757) said:
Burn the witches

I am watching a show on the universe. It's amazing how advanced we are and the smart people that are in the world.

Scientists sending satellites to the sun and taking pictures and sending it back to understand it.

Those same people must be in on the same conspiracy. They go through the same educational systems that the doctors and nurses and scientists that investigate modern medicine go through.

@Earl Space is pseudo science.
Are these the same scientists who say we can leave Earth, even though its a closed system?. The Dutch national musuem has your fake Moon rocks awaiting collection if you want souvenirs.

We have atmospheric pressure on Earth as gas can't escape.

Satellites are nothing more than high altitute ballons, blimps or light aircrafts. NASA consumes 90% of the Worlds Helium, and it's not due to them being in the kids party industry.

I don't need a .gov or .space website to use critical thinking.

Gravity went from a being a force, to a non force, but actual 'space time'.. Its pseudo science that has never been proven with a real life scientific experiment. Its a mathematical abstract model that lives in the mind.

But keep believing in the Moon landings, ISS floating out there in the middle of nowhere, and some Tesla drifting out in outter space to who knows where. Nothing will ever leave the Earths system. There are so many videos exposing these fake launches, ISS feeds etc. Its a comedy show.

"You can tell it's real because it looks so fake"
Yours truly,
-Elon Musk-

This is a great parody account. Well done.
 
@eyeofthetiger-0 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1512289) said:
@odessa said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1512288) said:
@leichhardtjunior said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1512233) said:
It’s ORIGINAL purpose was NOT as a veterinary de-wormer it was as a HUMAN anti viral drug that was also later found to be effective in animals.
There you go quoting the government again. If the government’s going to limit your thought process then don’t pretend to care otherwise. I hate to break it to you kiddo but GOVERNMENTS AND MEDIA LIE. Just deal with that FACT.
I just gave you my personal experience of having worked throughout this whole pandemic in close quarters with hundreds of men 6 days a week. My observation is that the daily government/media narrative across that timeframe has painted a very different picture to my ACTUAL experience.
I’m not sure what the science around my actual experience is come to think of it? You’ll have to let me know I guess.
If you want to talk about Ivermectin (a drug which the clinical evidence shows is not statistically effective), we’ll I’d suggest you do some research outside of TGA / government reports.
If you do that you’ll find that Ivermectin (a drug which the clinical evidence shows is not statistically effective) has previously been widely accepted and endorsed by the WHO as one of the most widely used and safest anti viral drugs on the market over the past 30 odd years, and APPROVED in MANY countries including Australia. It won the Nobel prise for medicine in 2017 (for human use!) and HAD AND IS being successfully used around the world in early treatment of covid (there are hundreds of doctors willing to testify to this in a court of law)
It was also the target of public MISS INFORMATION by MAINSTREAM MEDIA (CNN I believe) and called a horse tranquilliser in an attempt to discredit it and justify government (WHO) and ban it from legal use to treat covid.
And here I was thinking the only ACCEPTED sources of miss information were ‘alternative information platforms’!!???
Do your research on how effectively it’s being used in India.
John Skerritt of the Australian TGA (which is government run) banned it from legal use here a few months ago, coincidentally at the same time as the push (and mandates) for vaccine uptake.
Get your heads out of the government sand and confront reality.
P.S. It doesn’t always come with an APPROVED SCIENCE certificate.

And also when they did some of the trials they gave 2400mg Aday and the recommended does is between 400 and 600 mg aday some people died taking the higher dose if you gave people between 4 and 6 times there recommend blood pressure medication you will have serious problems as well

Is some Africa countries they call it the sunday vitamin because they take it every Sunday

It works so well because it has an inhibitor that stops the long chain proteins from reproduction
And gives your natural immune system time to work

But don't worry they are bringing out a tablet almost chemically exactly the same just enough change to patent application it and reap the financial rewards

It’s disgusting isn’t it. But hey trust our government and what they say. It’s all about money





Like they never lie steal or cheat
 
So I've just done the mad last-minute rush from London to Sydney.

QF1/2 via Darwin is actually quite nice. It's certainly a lot easier and stress-free than stopping in Dubai.
 
The sooner people wake up that MSM and the Govt arent your friends the better off you will be...
search Dr Dave Martin ....virologist.epidemologist and health insurance undertaker..
Dr Karen Kingston Pfiser employee who left after Pfiser paid out billions for fraudulent vaccine production that led to deaths and injuries...

The govt has secured 80 million doses of vaccines for all Aussies which equates to 2 doses per person per year for 7 years...

and most think its about health....careful what you wish for ...freedom doesnt exist when you have to conform to govt regulation when its on their terms...

my case was that I asked for a med exemption because of my blood clot history...I was told that the health advise has been re done that it is only possible to get an exemption if I had an adverse reaction from the first shot.....sort of defeats the purpose since I have genuine concern for my own health..

Iam no anti vaxer,but I certainly dont trust a drug that the Pharma wont know the result of until 2023 because it is still in an trial mode and under EUA that changes as the Govt sees fit to serve their narrative...

FOLLOW THE MONEY....
 
@truetiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1513198) said:
**The sooner people wake up that MSM and the Govt arent your friends the better off you will be...**
search Dr Dave Martin ....virologist.epidemologist and health insurance undertaker..
Dr Karen Kingston Pfiser employee who left after Pfiser paid out billions for fraudulent vaccine production that led to deaths and injuries...

The govt has secured 80 million doses of vaccines for all Aussies which equates to 2 doses per person per year for 7 years...

and most think its about health....careful what you wish for ...freedom doesnt exist when you have to conform to govt regulation when its on their terms...

my case was that I asked for a med exemption because of my blood clot history...I was told that the health advise has been re done that it is only possible to get an exemption if I had an adverse reaction from the first shot.....sort of defeats the purpose since I have genuine concern for my own health..

Iam no anti vaxer,but I certainly dont trust a drug that the Pharma wont know the result of until 2023 because it is still in an trial mode and under EUA that changes as the Govt sees fit to serve their narrative...

FOLLOW THE MONEY....

Ok, they aren’t my friends. Now what? How is my life going to change?
 
@gnr4life said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1513201) said:
@truetiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1513198) said:
**The sooner people wake up that MSM and the Govt arent your friends the better off you will be...**
search Dr Dave Martin ....virologist.epidemologist and health insurance undertaker..
Dr Karen Kingston Pfiser employee who left after Pfiser paid out billions for fraudulent vaccine production that led to deaths and injuries...

The govt has secured 80 million doses of vaccines for all Aussies which equates to 2 doses per person per year for 7 years...

and most think its about health....careful what you wish for ...freedom doesnt exist when you have to conform to govt regulation when its on their terms...

my case was that I asked for a med exemption because of my blood clot history...I was told that the health advise has been re done that it is only possible to get an exemption if I had an adverse reaction from the first shot.....sort of defeats the purpose since I have genuine concern for my own health..

Iam no anti vaxer,but I certainly dont trust a drug that the Pharma wont know the result of until 2023 because it is still in an trial mode and under EUA that changes as the Govt sees fit to serve their narrative...

FOLLOW THE MONEY....

Ok, they aren’t my friends. Now what? How is my life going to change?

How many more shots are you going to take...that may show how your life will change...
 
@gnr4life said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1513201) said:
@truetiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1513198) said:
**The sooner people wake up that MSM and the Govt arent your friends the better off you will be...**
search Dr Dave Martin ....virologist.epidemologist and health insurance undertaker..
Dr Karen Kingston Pfiser employee who left after Pfiser paid out billions for fraudulent vaccine production that led to deaths and injuries...

The govt has secured 80 million doses of vaccines for all Aussies which equates to 2 doses per person per year for 7 years...

and most think its about health....careful what you wish for ...freedom doesnt exist when you have to conform to govt regulation when its on their terms...

my case was that I asked for a med exemption because of my blood clot history...I was told that the health advise has been re done that it is only possible to get an exemption if I had an adverse reaction from the first shot.....sort of defeats the purpose since I have genuine concern for my own health..

Iam no anti vaxer,but I certainly dont trust a drug that the Pharma wont know the result of until 2023 because it is still in an trial mode and under EUA that changes as the Govt sees fit to serve their narrative...

FOLLOW THE MONEY....

Ok, they aren’t my friends. Now what? How is my life going to change?

What a defeatist statement.
Pretty simple. It’s a numbers game. If enough people call bullshit and stop complying, the games over.
 
@leichhardtjunior said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1513251) said:
@gnr4life said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1513201) said:
@truetiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1513198) said:
**The sooner people wake up that MSM and the Govt arent your friends the better off you will be...**
search Dr Dave Martin ....virologist.epidemologist and health insurance undertaker..
Dr Karen Kingston Pfiser employee who left after Pfiser paid out billions for fraudulent vaccine production that led to deaths and injuries...

The govt has secured 80 million doses of vaccines for all Aussies which equates to 2 doses per person per year for 7 years...

and most think its about health....careful what you wish for ...freedom doesnt exist when you have to conform to govt regulation when its on their terms...

my case was that I asked for a med exemption because of my blood clot history...I was told that the health advise has been re done that it is only possible to get an exemption if I had an adverse reaction from the first shot.....sort of defeats the purpose since I have genuine concern for my own health..

Iam no anti vaxer,but I certainly dont trust a drug that the Pharma wont know the result of until 2023 because it is still in an trial mode and under EUA that changes as the Govt sees fit to serve their narrative...

FOLLOW THE MONEY....

Ok, they aren’t my friends. Now what? How is my life going to change?

What a defeatist statement.
Pretty simple. It’s a numbers game. If enough people call bullshit and stop complying, the games over.

Oh please
 
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