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@leichhardtjunior said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1518516) said:
@cultured_bogan said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1518510) said:
@truetiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1518508) said:
@cultured_bogan said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1518505) said:
@truetiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1518500) said:
@diedpretty said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1518499) said:
I was in the supermarket at Lake Cathie today and bumped in to an ex colleague ( i'm retired ). We worked together in a facility that accommodated violent people with dual diagnosis for 20 years. She has been a mental health nurse for 40 odd years. Asked how she was going and she tells me she has been given to the new year to get vaccinated or her services are no longer required. She has her reasons for not getting vaxxed that relate to previous health issues. Whether those reasons are valid or not i have no idea. I'm fully vaxxed but it made me wonder about what sort of a society are we creating when people no longer have the freedom of choice and are punished with the loss of their livelihood if they don't toe the line.

**I got terminated for not choosing to get vaxxed because of previous health issues,namely blood clotting**...but if you dont trust the shot ...you are a conspiracy theorist....
your friends choice....I wish her well and all I can say is she will missed as an asset to the industry...wish her a merry xmas and may God bless her and the family...

You can't keep going back to that TT, there is an alternative for you. You deliberately refuse to acknowledge that.

Just be honest and say you don't want the jab at all, because the clot risk excuse is bullshit. You can get Pfizer and Moderna and not be at risk of clotting complications.

Ok CB I have had enough mate ....YOU PROVE TO ME that they are safe as a vaccine should be ...and not an EXPERIMENTAL DRUG,which they are ...your life your choice ...my life my choice...its all good that you had it ...its all good I DONT WANT THE CRAP....
never judge a person until you have walked a mile in THEIR shoes...you have your reasons because of your health,but I dont call BULLSHIT on your choice...I really like conversing with you mate ...but...

AZ has a increased risk of clotting. The other two do not. You've nailed your colours to the mast with the comment that you think it's an experimental drug. It was never about "clot risks" mate.

You don't want to get jabbed that's fine. I'm not advocating that people get forcibly jabbed. Just don't hide behind bullshit excuses as to why you don't want to be. If you had have said you thought it was an experimental drug from the start I'd have let it be. You've argued in bad faith until that post.

You don’t listen mate, plain and simple.

Yes I do, that's how I arrived at the conclusion. You're just a Stan for him because he's being taken to task and his beliefs align with yours.

TT has his beliefs, that's fine. But don't be disingenuous, and don't base them in scientific illiteracy.

I hope he doesn't wind up ill because of his decision, but respect his freedom to make that decision. It's well publicised that those with health conditions are far more susceptible.
 
@odessa said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1518528) said:
@inbenjiwetrust said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1518526) said:
Did we come to this? :-1: :angry:

![ab46980a-efb4-4577-a2ba-2419a152b246-image.png](/assets/uploads/files/1640065653223-ab46980a-efb4-4577-a2ba-2419a152b246-image.png)

After third dose 1 in 35 chance heart problems for the rest of your life but hay free pizza yummy

Source? Medical journals will suffice, no YouTube videos or tinpot websites.
 
@leichhardtjunior said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1518514) said:
@cultured_bogan said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1518504) said:
@leichhardtjunior said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1518476) said:
@4jtigers said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1518474) said:
@go_you_good_things said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1518473) said:
@pj said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1518449) said:
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Just when the last dozen or so posts were made up of reasonably civil discussion, up pops a moron

so this forum has really gone down the drain - people calling each other names - "moron" really?

I miss the old posters of this forum - I've been a member for a while - I hardly post but I do read a bit and enjoy the interaction - lately it is just plain either insulting each other or someone being a troll - we can all be keyboard warriors but please know when to stop

Meh, eye for an eye I say. If you don’t want to be called a moron… don’t be a moron. Pretty simple.

Sounds "transparently weak and nasty"...

Think you’re missing the point.
Some choose to work in packs and try and disguise their spiteful bigoted comments behind insincere ‘caring advice’.
I don’t respect them. And I’m not trying to disguise it.

A lot of US here know each other online and personally
as well as know TT personally for years.. It's not
hard to see the change for the negative.
There's on topic discussion... And then
there can also be concern.

Don't know who you are.
Some blow-in troll.
 
@cultured_bogan said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1518545) said:
@odessa said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1518528) said:
@inbenjiwetrust said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1518526) said:
Did we come to this? :-1: :angry:

![ab46980a-efb4-4577-a2ba-2419a152b246-image.png](/assets/uploads/files/1640065653223-ab46980a-efb4-4577-a2ba-2419a152b246-image.png)

After third dose 1 in 35 chance heart problems for the rest of your life but hay free pizza yummy

Source? Medical journals will suffice, no YouTube videos or tinpot websites.


It's hard to have a source when only a relative handful of people have had 3 shots and probably aren't old enough, or had the shots long enough ago to do the study. I reckon you will get crickets here mate
 
@twentyforty said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1518503) said:
@diedpretty said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1518499) said:
I was in the supermarket at Lake Cathie today and bumped in to an ex colleague ( i'm retired ). We worked together in a facility that accommodated violent people with dual diagnosis for 20 years. She has been a mental health nurse for 40 odd years. Asked how she was going and she tells me she has been given to the new year to get vaccinated or her services are no longer required. She has her reasons for not getting vaxxed that relate to previous health issues. Whether those reasons are valid or not i have no idea. I'm fully vaxxed but it made me wonder about what sort of a society are we creating when people no longer have the freedom of choice and are punished with the loss of their livelihood if they don't toe the line.

Its a society at war with an unforgiving enemy which has killed over 5million of us already. We all come from and have experienced different backgrounds which provides various concepts and opinions of the meaning in the word "freedom". The truth is we have never been free. Our behaviour is influenced by a range of rules, traditions, lores and laws. The more mature our thinking becomes the more we reject the notion of conforming. I think people should have a choice and that's why I choose to join the fight. Good luck to your colleague mate. Stay safe.

Its almost as though companies are terminating people without doing any research whatsoever. I would assume their reason for terminating unvaxxed employees is to avoid any spreading of the virus. But as we have now seen being double vaxxed doesn't prevent you from catching and spreading the virus. So to me the whole thing seems a sham.
 
@diedpretty said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1518548) said:
But as we have now seen being double vaxxed doesn’t prevent you from catching and spreading the virus. So to me the whole thing seems a sham.

This is really poor logic and it's not even true. Vaccination predominantly is to save your life and lessen the burden on the hospital system. If it stops spread completely that is fantastic but it's highly unlikely.

The proof that it works is completely obvious to me. We would have been smashed with Delta and we did exceptionally well once we were vaxxed. Let's see how we go with Omicron but so far it looks like the unvaccinated yet again have a much higher risk profile.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QkX5lvUPCE
 
@nuggetron said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1518450) said:
@truetiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1518448) said:
@coivtny said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1518445) said:
@truetiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1518439) said:
Here is another interesting fact....

Dr Theresa Bishop MD,Psychiatrist,has published a book on the Omicron Varient and understanding it...

funny thing is this book was copyrighted in 2020....yet Omicron was discovered in Nov 2021....by S.A HEALTH AND WHO..

Her website is Dr Theresa Bishop...scroll down until you see the heading UNDERSTANDING OMICRON...

From the Fact Check Library:

A meme doing the rounds on Facebook notes that a book sold on Amazon about the Omicron variant has a copyright date of 2020. It implies that there must be a coverup around the origins of Omicron, as the first cases of the virus were not reported until November 2021.

However, neither the book nor its author is legitimate, so the supposed copyright date is not valid.

Thanks for that,but shouldnt Amazon varify the validity of what it sells,you did say that the author and book is not legitimate,so what is Amazon selling...you did say SOLD on Amazon...and who is Dr Theresa Bishop,her website says she wrote and published the said book.?
I appreciate you found something to fact check this,but Facebook has been known to tell untruths as well as some fact checking library,somehow somewhere the truth will be revealed.

sold meaning for sale on, not necessarily purchased
ie this tree is sold on amazon is the same as this tree is for sale on amazon

amazon is both a seller and a platform, anyone can sell something on amazon, like ebay. which is why you get people selling look a like cheetos etc. it's not amazon or ebay selling the cheeto but a seller using the platform

amazon should verify the validity of what it sells, it also sells millions of items every minute, it, like google, probably uses a filter looking for key words and has those items manually verified, it may have been on a list to verify, it may have passed all the algorithms and been deemed safe for sale.
its an algorithm not an individual sitting there fact checking every word on every item sold

First experience using Amazon, the item never arrived. Might buy that book? ?
 
@cultured_bogan said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1518545) said:
@odessa said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1518528) said:
@inbenjiwetrust said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1518526) said:
Did we come to this? :-1: :angry:

![ab46980a-efb4-4577-a2ba-2419a152b246-image.png](/assets/uploads/files/1640065653223-ab46980a-efb4-4577-a2ba-2419a152b246-image.png)

After third dose 1 in 35 chance heart problems for the rest of your life but hay free pizza yummy

Source? Medical journals will suffice, no YouTube videos or tinpot websites.

It was a study from Israel with the male soldiers
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4E1PQqwlag

How funny is this. Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon talking up the vaccine and booster.
 
@earl said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1518560) said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4E1PQqwlag

How funny is this. Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon talking up the vaccine and booster.

Why funny?

His leadership got the vaccines produced and in record time.
 
@colinbh said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1518562) said:
@earl said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1518560) said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4E1PQqwlag

How funny is this. Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon talking up the vaccine and booster.

Why funny?

His leadership got the vaccines produced and in record time.


You still have not lost your delusions just like he hasn't
 
@odessa said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1518559) said:
@cultured_bogan said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1518545) said:
@odessa said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1518528) said:
@inbenjiwetrust said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1518526) said:
Did we come to this? :-1: :angry:

![ab46980a-efb4-4577-a2ba-2419a152b246-image.png](/assets/uploads/files/1640065653223-ab46980a-efb4-4577-a2ba-2419a152b246-image.png)

After third dose 1 in 35 chance heart problems for the rest of your life but hay free pizza yummy

Source? Medical journals will suffice, no YouTube videos or tinpot websites.

It was a study from Israel with the male soldiers

So you can link me to the study?
 
@colinbh said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1518562) said:
@earl said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1518560) said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4E1PQqwlag

How funny is this. Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon talking up the vaccine and booster.

Why funny?

His leadership got the vaccines produced and in record time.

Haha no he didn't. He just announced that whoever developed it first would get first dibs at supply. Never stop never stopping Col.
 
@inbenjiwetrust said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1518578) said:
"Control me harder, Daddy!” ??

https://twitter.com/drdina1/status/1473247587176108036?s=20

Why does she tweet 4-5 times per day about not getting vaccinated? Don’t understand the fascination hey. Oops almost missed my 10am anti vaxx tweet.
 
@cultured_bogan said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1518569) said:
@colinbh said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1518562) said:
@earl said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1518560) said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4E1PQqwlag

How funny is this. Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon talking up the vaccine and booster.

Why funny?

His leadership got the vaccines produced and in record time.

Haha no he didn't. He just announced that whoever developed it first would get first dibs at supply. Never stop never stopping Col.

He definitely didn't have anything to do with producing the vaccine any more quickly and his response to COVID was typically Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon - incompetent - but he has played this well.

He just distanced himself from all the crazy anti-vaxxer conspiracy theorists and made himself much more viable to middle America.
 
Our local COVID testing centres (Nambucca Heads/ Macksville) are closed 1 - 3 January, meaning you have to either drive to 45ks to Coffs or 65ks to Kemposey to get a test in that period.
I wrote to the local rep (Melinda Pavey) to see if they could open the local test centres at least for part of each day (not only for health of people but for those who come from QLD and wish to go there). They wrote back stating NSW Health had extended hours/ put on more staff but when I looked nothing had changed one iota. If you going to lie, you should lie well.
 
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