Could Israel Folou ignite our Backline

[Goldust]

He would definitely spark our backline
I just don’t think our club needs that sort of publicity at the moment.

 

[Curaeus]

Wouldn't go near this guy even if he came for free!

 

[Fitzy05]

Most new employees have to read and sign a company hand book which has company values and policies on which have to abide by in the workplace .

 

[Madge]

I’ll answer the topic title, do I think he could ignite our backline, no. Already in his 30’s and most probably will end up like Richards when he came back to us, will have some positives but just isn’t what we need at the moment I think.

 

[Tim Sheens]

Regardless of anything else, I seem to recall most of his teammates wanted nothing to do with him after his remarks and this was pretty well reflected throughout the community.

The names will never hurt me attitude is just another ill informed opinion relic from our past and something said to sooth worried children. Rather it is very much a trigger for harm and much worse, at times suicide.


As per @Earl stated earlier it is not a left or right issue to attack or defend homosexuals or others, it is whether you are a dick or not

 

[hobbo1]

Izzy has divided the forum. I suspect he would divide the dressing shed as well

But he could lead the prayer group..
Our current prayers aren’t being heard
😂

 

[Harvey]

Israel Folau is a flog of the second highest order. I only rank him below domestic abusers (Tetevano, Lodge, Walker, etc.).

And you're a saint, right....?
I don't know who's worse.

Izzy and the wife beaters or the ones who wanna condemn them for mistakes of the past.

Izzy and the wife beaters sounds like a seventies punk band that could be found on the what song are you listening to now thread

 

[Harvey]

I am sure that there is something in the bible that explains how working on the sabbath will see you condemned to hell. Surely the Broncos are the only club that Izzy could sign with unless, like most zealots, he is a born again hypocrite.

 

[Geo]

I am sure that there is something in the bible that explains how working on the sabbath will see you condemned to hell. Surely the Broncos are the only club that Izzy could sign with unless, like most zealots, he is a born again hypocrite.

11 Sunday games for us in 2020..

 

[NT_Tiger]

I am sure that there is something in the bible that explains how working on the sabbath will see you condemned to hell. Surely the Broncos are the only club that Izzy could sign with unless, like most zealots, he is a born again hypocrite.

11 Sunday games for us in 2020..

Heathens, he'll never come here.

 

[mrem]

Free speech, our grandfathers and great grandfathers are “nonsense “ according to you. Good one.

Yeah the debate is nonsense. Izzy Folau is worried about gays and it sets off all this nonsense amongst football fans about whether he's right or not, whether he should be allowed to say these things or not... not one iota of it even remotely related to actually playing football.

The same-sex marriage vote period was toxic and alarmist, and Izzy generates the same content.

It's nonsense that Snake felt compelled to post that people died in wars to protect freedoms of speech and democracy, as if anyone is arguing to the contrary, or as if nobody knew.

He then goes on to start talking about leftist media, minority groups and corporate CEOs.

I don't want any of that stuff in my daily cup of footy, it's toxic and divisive and never-ending. That's the problem with Izzy, not specifically that he's praying for homosexuals.

To the last paragraph. Does that mean you don't want any player that doesn't sing the national anthem too?

 

[Mccarry]

High profile rapists and wife beaters setting an example that will influence hundreds of women getting beaten up... WELCOME TO THE NRL

Someone with an offensive view... YOUR NOT WELCOME

Folau would be a weapon. He would bring huge ticket sales because he would win games.

I would prefer to win games rather than for the Tigers to take a stand as speech police.

 

[Ponyo]

**Scott Morrison and Christian Porter release second draft of religious discrimination legislation**

DECEMBER 10, 20191:14pm

NEWS.COM.AU1:51

Religious freedom: What can and can't you say?

In the wake of Israel Folau's controversial GoFundMe campaign, is it time for a Religious Discrimination Act in Australia?

Shannon Molloy

news.com.au

The government’s religious freedom reforms have taken another step forward with the release of a second draft, which includes a number of concessions following extended consultation.

Stakeholders from religious groups to aged care providers and LGBTI rights advocates have been involved in long-running negotiations for months.

Those talks led to the release today of the second and final exposure draft of the Religious Discrimination Bill, announced by Prime Minister Scott Morrison and Attorney-General Christian Porter.

What Australians believe, both those of faith and no faith, is “such a personal matter”, Mr Morrison told reporters in Sydney.

“It’s hard to imagine something more personal,” he said, adding it was for that reason the process had to be one that was “on a platform of tolerance and inclusion that brings people together around the big issues”.

The changes would enshrine the protection of religious belief and activity while also “unifying our country’s firm belief in religious freedom”, Mr Morrison said.

The second exposure draft includes 11 key changes, most of which focus on clarifying the definition of what constitutes a religious body and tightening the definition of vilification.

But perhaps the most timely change relates to someone suffering professional consequences for a religious view they’ve expressed outside of work, including on social media.

Prime Minister Scott Morrison released the second exposure draft today, saying it followed extensive consultation. Picture: Getty ImagesSource:Getty Images

The change to that provision comes less than a week after Israel Folau and Rugby Australia reached a settlement to their long-running dispute.


Folau was sacked from the NSW Waratahs and the Wallabies teams for declaring on social media that homosexuals are destined for hell, after a warning for a similar post several months prior.

Under the draft legislation, should an employee be reprimanded for expressing a view based on their faith, that could be considered religious discrimination unless damage is proven.

“(Companies) would have to show there’s undue financial hardship (as a result of the belief being expressed),” Mr Porter said.

In the new draft, companies would have to prove they suffered a financial hardship from an employee’s expression of faith outside of work – including on social media – otherwise any consequences would be discriminatory.Source:News Regional Media

Similarly, professional registration bodies, such as those for doctors and lawyers, would not be able to impose social media policies that infringe on the free expression of beliefs.

But, in all respects, the second draft also “finetunes” the definition of “vilify”, Mr Porter said.

“It protects statements of religious belief, it doesn’t protect statements that vilify … that incite hatred or violence,” he said.

Another major change makes it clear that religious bodies are able to make employment and other administrative decisions based upon faith.

But now, that definition of ‘religious body’ would include charitable organisations that have a predominantly commercial function, such as St Vincent de Paul.

After the release of the first draft, LGBTI groups objected to the broad definition of medical professionals when it came to allowing conscientious objection for religious reasons.

The new draft narrows that to nurses, midwives, doctors, psychologists and pharmacists – something that Mr Porter pointed out was largely supported by religious groups.

However, the new draft makes it clear that the objection provisions don’t give the right to discriminate against individuals – but rather procedures themselves.

The government believes the new draft strikes a balance and makes reasonable concessions to stakeholders.Source:News Corp Australia

The new draft also makes clear that religious hospitals, aged care facilities and accommodation providers can make staffing decisions based on faith.

Religious camps and conference centres can also take faith into account when deciding whether to provide accommodation, but must make their policy publicly available.

Mr Morrison said he was confident that the legislation could protect religious freedoms and prevent discrimination without “cutting across the broader rights and liberalities of all Australians”.

“We’ve been listening to everybody,” he said of the latest consultation.

“The practical issues that have been brought up during the consultation process have been very productive … it deals with the everyday experience of how religious organisations and people of faith go about expressing and conducting their faith.”

The reform process has been slow due to objections from religious groups after the release of the first draft.

A new round of submissions will now open, with stakeholders having until January 31 to offer feedback. The new draft is available for review.

 

[weststigers]

It's unlikely the NRL would register his contract, so there's not much point discussing it, but to answer the question...of course he would ignite our backline...he's first picked imo. Whether he played wing, centre or fullback, a backline with Folau in it is a different beast.

Just talking about his playing ability...not wanting to get into a political discussion here.

 

[avocadoontoast]

It's unlikely the NRL would register his contract, so there's not much point discussing it, but to answer the question...of course he would ignite our backline...he's first picked imo. Whether he played wing, centre or fullback, a backline with Folau in it is a different beast.

Just talking about his playing ability...not wanting to get into a political discussion here.

Would he though? I'm not all that sure. Hasn't played league in 8 years and not getting any younger. I think he'd struggle a bit.

 

[Ponyo]

It's unlikely the NRL would register his contract, so there's not much point discussing it, but to answer the question...of course he would ignite our backline...he's first picked imo. Whether he played wing, centre or fullback, a backline with Folau in it is a different beast.

Just talking about his playing ability...not wanting to get into a political discussion here.

Would he though? I'm not all that sure. Hasn't played league in 8 years and not getting any younger. I think he'd struggle a bit.

You obviously don't watch union. He was the best defensive & attacking weapon in the air in world rugby. He's 4 years younger than Sonny Bill, he would have made a formidable fullback for the club on a 2 year contract.

Tuqiri was 31 when he signed for 3 and went onto play for the bunnies. Can't allow your own personal judgement get in the way facts.

 

[avocadoontoast]

It's unlikely the NRL would register his contract, so there's not much point discussing it, but to answer the question...of course he would ignite our backline...he's first picked imo. Whether he played wing, centre or fullback, a backline with Folau in it is a different beast.

Just talking about his playing ability...not wanting to get into a political discussion here.

Would he though? I'm not all that sure. Hasn't played league in 8 years and not getting any younger. I think he'd struggle a bit.

You obviously don't watch union. He was the best defensive & attacking weapon in the air in world rugby. He's 4 years younger than Sonny Bill, he would have made a formidable fullback for the club on a 2 year contract.

Tuqiri was 31 when he signed for 3 and went onto play for the bunnies. Can't allow your own personal judgement get in the way facts.

I'm not letting my personal judgement get in the way of anything. I think he'd struggle back in the NRL.

 

[Ponyo]

@avocadoontoast that's even if they let him back to play as mentioned, but he hasn't forgotten the rules & is still supremely fit.

The government's new religious freedom laws would make things interesting.
He would gladly accept social media clauses in his contract making it hard for anyone to stop him from gaining employment. RaeleneCastle & Clynne handled Israel's situation terribly. Might not be the end of him.

 

[WeHaveCheeKam]

It's unlikely the NRL would register his contract, so there's not much point discussing it, but to answer the question...of course he would ignite our backline...he's first picked imo. Whether he played wing, centre or fullback, a backline with Folau in it is a different beast.

Just talking about his playing ability...not wanting to get into a political discussion here.

Would he though? I'm not all that sure. Hasn't played league in 8 years and not getting any younger. I think he'd struggle a bit.

Struggle is probably an over exhaggeration, but there is definitely the prospect he wouldn't have the impact some would hope.

In my opinion, he still goes good. When he last played union he was still the best player in Australian Rugby by a fair way.

 

[gallagher]

I reckon if a club and Israel came to terms and told the NRL they were gonna test his non registration the NRL would go to water.