@happy tiger said:
Simple move QLD to PNG…
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Simple move QLD to PNG…
happy_tiger
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@Geo. said:
Less simple move but would make all other Australians happy
Dig a one mile ditch around the entire NSW border and an electric fence
happy_tiger
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@jctiger said:
Only when they have a SOO standard footballer :laughing:
@king sirro said:
I have thought of a similar layout to this in the past but with only 18 teams but more of a Sydney and Outer Sydney conference setup. All Teams would play each other twice with the top four from each group going thru to the finals.
So that would be 16 weeks of games in the season proper, 4 weeks of finals. ie. 20 weeks of footy allowing SOO to be played on stand alone weekends. 2 more teams can be added later and we still have less games and a lot fairer setup than we have now
Group 1
Wests Tigers
Penrith
Parramatta
Manly
Bulldogs
Cronulla
Souths
Roosters
St George
Group 2
Canberra
Newcastle
Melbourne
Brisbane
Cowboys
Gold Coast
Warriors
New team 1
New team 2
Tim Sheens
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@jctiger said:
Been a long time since neither the Sydney teams or their supporters have not had to travel on a regular basis to see them play. Would not mind traveling to the Central Coast and bringing the Bears back in.
@Milky said:
I wouldn't scrap NSW or QLD cup. They're competitions run by the NSWRL and QRL and not under the direct control of the NRL anyway.
There should be a legitimate reserve grade, and U20's should be U23's. 20 years old is way too early for a kid to be thrown on the scrapheap.
@Cultured Bogan said:
From a pure football point of view you are correct that a National reserve grade and an older stepping stone comp such as u/23 would provide a better pathway.
However the unintended consequences of professional football make that very difficult.
People talk about the lack of depth, there is as much depth as their always has been in terms of talent, the real issue is that the gap between professional players and part time players his huge. You can call your second tier whatever you like, but if they are part time players called into a game against full time players you get smashed. This also elongates the time it takes to be NRL ready, in 1980 the players in first grade were a bit, older, bigger and faster than the young blokes coming through, but still only doing the same training as bloke advancing through the grades. Now days Curtis Sironen comes into grade and is playing blokes that have been fulltime players for years, it takes a couple of years of being fulltime player yourself to breach that gap. (whether it be as a 20 yo or 24yo)
Currently we dont have the money to fund fulltime players in reserve grade (all the way through the squad) the same issue presents. Back in the day if Blocker was out Paul Clarke or Kerry Helmsly would come in and not much changes as the reserve grade was only a little bit less talented than first grade and they were all doing the same training, now days if you have a bloke out and have to bring in a guy who is working monday to friday he is always going to be behind, whether it is a national reserve grade or not.
With the current system of having players in or out of professional footy by 21, they can then get on with their lives, get a job or an education than a job and not fall too far behind. Half the blokes in reserve grade a full time, the others virtually know they arnt going to make it and go get jobs.
If we drag out this process, clubs will have kids chasing their dreams into their mid 20's with no real hope of making it and really putting them along way behind and really negatively impacting their lives.
The same amount of players make it whether you delay it to 24 or something or cut them at 20, which players come through would probably change, but instead you will have 20 to 30 kids in each club each year trying to make it and getting cut and having a major setback in their professional life.
You will actually turn away talented guys who arent prepared to hang around as long
I agree that the current system is not perfect for football development, but I think it is the kindest way to throw the aspiring players on the scrap heap and not screw up their lives.
Never looked or thought of it that way Goose, very thought provoking though. Good points.
happy_tiger
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Still happens though Goose
These blokes then move to fringe feeder teams hoping they get picked up by sides or play for the richer Country RL clubs under the current system
At least now all players that come through NYC are helped with either further tertiary qualifications or start with trades
I think having a National Under 23's would be far more effective , especially if players are forced to get tertiary qualifications or trades like NYC
These blokes then move to fringe feeder teams hoping they get picked up by sides or play for the richer Country RL clubs under the current system
At least now all players that come through NYC are helped with either further tertiary qualifications or start with trades
I think having a National Under 23's would be far more effective , especially if players are forced to get tertiary qualifications or trades like NYC
@happy tiger said:
They do, but they move to a club that has their training at 6pm 3 times a week and they can get on with their lives, becoming plumbers, electricians or accountants by day and chase their dream at night. They are not forced to choose like they are currently.
The work, Learn Play rules are being circumvented. Firstly the best 2 players in a squad are exempt (what happens to them at 30??) and alot of the other guys are taking roles with the club itself or doing less than top notch study getting cert 3's in fitness and stuff like that. Sometimes it is kind to be cruel, make clubs make a choice early and let the young blokes get on with their lives.
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The players need to take some responsibility for that and realize that they won't cut it
And the NRL should enforce that all players are doing at least tertiary education or working on a trade as a minimum requirement for playing in an Under 23 NRL comp
If they can't or don't they can't progress into an NRL club
Would help keep these kids in line and give them a semblance of what goes on in the outside world
Most have little or no idea to be honest
That show they did on Foxtel that featured Keefy was good , really delved into the lives of professional sports people
And the NRL should enforce that all players are doing at least tertiary education or working on a trade as a minimum requirement for playing in an Under 23 NRL comp
If they can't or don't they can't progress into an NRL club
Would help keep these kids in line and give them a semblance of what goes on in the outside world
Most have little or no idea to be honest
That show they did on Foxtel that featured Keefy was good , really delved into the lives of professional sports people
@happy tiger said:
They already have to do that for Holden Cup…man you are on top of it all
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@Geo. said:
My point if they want to reboot a Under 23 or a permanent Reserve Grade that it should continue Dopey
cqtiger
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@happy tiger said:
Didn't Todd Carney do a plumbing course?
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@cqtiger said:
I think he was multi tasking CQ :laughing:
cqtiger
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@happy tiger said:
Yeah I suppose. I know he liked stainless steel or silver looking tap fittings but I think he specialised in golden showers.
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