Cricket Season Thread

[Cultured_Bogan]

Face it, some people don't hold T20 in the same regard as you do. If you like it, and think it has merit then power to you. Doesn't mean everyone should share that philosophy. I don't mind watching the BBL if there is nothing better on but that's as far as my love for T20 stretches.

 

[Yossarian]

Khawaja dropped for Steve Smith. Seems a bit harsh. 2 more first-gamers today.

Yoss I thought they said after the toss that Khawaja was injured

I don't believe so. Everything I've read just says he was left out. Apparently his run out was somehow worse than the other 40 run outs this summer…

 

[Yossarian]

Warner will come back for Finch and I'm guessing Clarke for Smith. That will be a massive boost for the team.

Any news on when Starc and Johnson will be fit? I'd be bringing those two back (if fit,) for Cutting/Richardson and Lyon in for Doherty.

This is shaping up to be an ordinary series with the Sri Lankans decimated by injuries and our retarded selection policy.

Could do with some decent leadership too. I really question George Bailey's captaining thus far.

 

[happy_tiger]

Khawaja dropped for Steve Smith. Seems a bit harsh. 2 more first-gamers today.

Yoss I thought they said after the toss that Khawaja was injured

I don't believe so. Everything I've read just says he was left out. Apparently his run out was somehow worse than the other 40 run outs this summer…

I could of been wrong as I was literally walking out the door to go to work , but I'm sure I heard Tubby say that they hadn't noticed him missing from the warm up until it was mentioned to them by Bailey

 

[Yossarian]

Khawaja dropped for Steve Smith. Seems a bit harsh. 2 more first-gamers today.

Yoss I thought they said after the toss that Khawaja was injured

I don't believe so. Everything I've read just says he was left out. Apparently his run out was somehow worse than the other 40 run outs this summer…

I could of been wrong as I was literally walking out the door to go to work , but I'm sure I heard Tubby say that they hadn't noticed him missing from the warm up until it was mentioned to them by Bailey

Yeah they were saying (I think Mark Nicholas mentioned it) that they were unaware of the team change until Bailey mentioned it at the toss. He was more exposing nine's lack of knowledge of what is going on than anything else.

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

Khawaja dropped for Steve Smith. Seems a bit harsh. 2 more first-gamers today.

Yoss I thought they said after the toss that Khawaja was injured

I don't believe so. Everything I've read just says he was left out. Apparently his run out was somehow worse than the other 40 run outs this summer…

I could of been wrong as I was literally walking out the door to go to work , but I'm sure I heard Tubby say that they hadn't noticed him missing from the warm up until it was mentioned to them by Bailey

I'm certain Khawaja came on for Haddin later on, couldn't have been too badly injured. His run out was sheer bad luck, and he was hooked before Maxwell. Complete crap.

 

[stryker]

These selection policies are just designed to get more bums on seats. I think the ACB was shocked at how easily we won game 1\. With the 'Lankans belting us in game 2 it will ensure bumper crowds for the remainder…until we put our best side in, score 400 and bowl them out for 150....whcih will happen sooner or later.

 

[Jazza]

There's 3 things that are annoying me with Australian cricket at the moment that I need to let out:

1\. Rotation policy - Really, why are we resting players when they don't need it? I understand that players play a lot of international cricket, but rather then continually unsettle the line-up, just play the best line-up all the time.

That way the players will understand how to play in ALL conditions and there won't be any need for horses for courses selections. Also the team will be more settled so if a player does get injured, it'll be a much better and settled environment for the new person coming in.

The rotation policy cost us the last World Cup because for the 12 months prior we were continually changing our line up and when the tournament came around we didn't know what our best side was for Indian conditions.

2\. The medical staff - The players should be telling the medical staff if they are good enough to play, not the other way around. There have been so many soft tissue injuries and to me that is a result of muscle imbalance from going to the gym too much and injuries caused by under-use from not bowling enough.

Players should be bowling in the nets for as much as they feel their body can take. They need to bowl more so that their muscles that are used specifically for bowling are strengthened. Not bowl to a limit before a danger zone, rest up and then go to a gym. If they bowled more maybe their strengthened muscles would ensure that danger zone would occur after say, 50 overs of bowling instead of 20 overs. Therefore decreasing the chances of injury in the long run.

In the old days players would do their trade by day, train at night, go on Ashes tours with 20 first class matches, come home, play Shield and club cricket and play a full international Summer.

3\. The all rounder obsession - We are heading down NZ's path of picking bits and pieces players that are neither one thing nor another. In the one day team we should pick 6 batsmen plus the keeper and 4 bowlers. I am sure D Hussey, Clarke and maybe Warner and Watson when he decides to start bowling again can easily share 10 overs between them. We don't need an 'allrounder' in the one day team.

 

[happy_tiger]

Jazza I agree with a lot you say , well done

I just wonder is the ACB is using the rotation policy as a cover for our lack of ability in the One Day arena

Apart from Warner we lack batsman who can take a game by the scruff of the neck in my opinion against top class opposition

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Tonight was a farce. The 50 over format needs all the help and exposure it can get

 

[Jazza]

I was at the game and we were not happy! The rain was not even heavy, surely the outfield wasn't that wet.

Talk about the umpires having shocking matches, two LBW howlers and then showing they are completely out of touch with the game and fans by not letting play resume. What did they want the outfield to be as dry as a desert out there?

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

Jazza I agree with a lot you say , well done

I just wonder is the ACB is using the rotation policy as a cover for our lack of ability in the One Day arena

Apart from Warner we lack batsman who can take a game by the scruff of the neck in my opinion against top class opposition

Harsh call Happy, we don't give any one player enough time to establish themselves in the side before rotating/sacking them. Look at Khawaja… Hooked after one game, Henriques gets two games and fails to perform in either, Finch only given a couple of games. They selectors are off their heads.

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

I was at the game and we were not happy! The rain was not even heavy, surely the outfield wasn't that wet.

Talk about the umpires having shocking matches, two LBW howlers and then showing they are completely out of touch with the game and fans by not letting play resume. What did they want the outfield to be as dry as a desert out there?

Couldn't get my head around that either. Probably called it off so that there's still a draw to play for in the fifth match.

 

[Jazza]

I was at the game and we were not happy! The rain was not even heavy, surely the outfield wasn't that wet.

Talk about the umpires having shocking matches, two LBW howlers and then showing they are completely out of touch with the game and fans by not letting play resume. What did they want the outfield to be as dry as a desert out there?

Couldn't get my head around that either. Probably called it off so that there's still a draw to play for in the fifth match.

Maybe they called it off because if Sri Lanka won that game there would of been a bigger microscope on their umpiring errors.

 

[Sabre]

I'm another one that can't take T20 seriously.
By its nature it is difficult to use it as a indicator of a team or players ability.
There's a bit of luck involved and it doesn't reward a consistent performance like a test match.

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

I was at the game and we were not happy! The rain was not even heavy, surely the outfield wasn't that wet.

Talk about the umpires having shocking matches, two LBW howlers and then showing they are completely out of touch with the game and fans by not letting play resume. What did they want the outfield to be as dry as a desert out there?

Couldn't get my head around that either. Probably called it off so that there's still a draw to play for in the fifth match.

Maybe they called it off because if Sri Lanka won that game there would of been a bigger microscope on their umpiring errors.

Perhaps. Had to laugh when I read about Jayawardene complaining about not going back on, especially when he appeared to be begging to go off in the first place to save wickets for a revised run chase. He gambled and lost.

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

I'm another one that can't take T20 seriously.
By its nature it is difficult to use it as a indicator of a team or players ability.
There's a bit of luck involved and it doesn't reward a consistent performance like a test match.

Well ODI performances can't even be factored into a teams Test ability anymore. Look at the Sri Lankan series. Thumped them in the Test matches and apart from the first game where they were obliterated, they've had their boots against our throats.

 

[happy_tiger]

Jazza I agree with a lot you say , well done

I just wonder is the ACB is using the rotation policy as a cover for our lack of ability in the One Day arena

Apart from Warner we lack batsman who can take a game by the scruff of the neck in my opinion against top class opposition

Harsh call Happy, we don't give any one player enough time to establish themselves in the side before rotating/sacking them. Look at Khawaja… Hooked after one game, Henriques gets two games and fails to perform in either, Finch only given a couple of games. They selectors are off their heads.

The rotation policy makes no sense to anyone CB

Thats why I think there might be more to it

Of the three international cricket types I think we are weakest at ODI's imo

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

Jazza I agree with a lot you say , well done

I just wonder is the ACB is using the rotation policy as a cover for our lack of ability in the One Day arena

Apart from Warner we lack batsman who can take a game by the scruff of the neck in my opinion against top class opposition

Harsh call Happy, we don't give any one player enough time to establish themselves in the side before rotating/sacking them. Look at Khawaja… Hooked after one game, Henriques gets two games and fails to perform in either, Finch only given a couple of games. They selectors are off their heads.

The rotation policy makes no sense to anyone CB

Thats why I think there might be more to it

Of the three international cricket types I think we are weakest at ODI's imo

We are a shocking ODI team. The T20 side will improve due to a decent league in the BBL being established. Unfortunately I think we will see ODI disappear and the majority of cricketers will come through tempered for either Test or T20.

On the rotation policy, no one is going to entrench themselves in the team when they are only going to get one or two matches. Could you imagine the pressure on those players to perform? That would surely interfere with their preparation. It seems like we have gone from one extreme to the other now: 10-15 years ago you could have a poor season of form and still be selected, now if you don't perform after one or two matches you're given the arse. Surely it's not hard for the ACB to find a happy medium that gives players a chance to play their natural game without the dagger hanging over their heads.

 

[tig_prmz]

http://www.espncricinfo.com/big-bash-league-2012/content/current/story/601699.html

Cameron White, the Melbourne Stars batsman, has labelled as "remarkable" the reprimand given to his Melbourne Renegades opponent Marlon Samuels over the altercation that earned Shane Warne a one-match BBL suspension. White has also refused to apologise for not going to the aid of Samuels when he suffered a severe facial injury from a Lasith Malinga bouncer later in the same match.
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Warne was banned for a match after he grabbed the shirt of Samuels during the second innings of the January 6 game and while Samuels was also charged with breaching the Code of Conduct, his hearing was delayed by a fortnight due to his injury. Samuels was let off with a reprimand after the Code of Conduct commissioner John Price ruled that Samuels threw his bat after "extreme provocation" from Warne, who had just thrown a ball that hit Samuels.
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However, the problems had started with an incident earlier in the match when Samuels was bowling and appeared to grab the Stars batsman David Hussey, who was turning to complete a second run. The charge that emerged from that incident, that Samuels "engaged in deliberate or inappropriate physical contact with a player or official", was dismissed.
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"Being provoked, I don't think you can use that as an excuse," White said in Melbourne on Tuesday. "It's remarkable, isn't it? How many times have you seen someone throw their cricket bat on a cricket field and get [reprimanded] for being extremely provoked? I've never seen it before. That's what the judiciary came up with."
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The heated nature of the match continued when Samuels was struck by a bouncer and the only Stars player who came to check on his welfare was the bowler, Malinga. The injury proved to be serious enough to rule Samuels out of the upcoming ODI series against Australia and meant he was confined to his hotel room for the past two weeks, but White said there were a number of reasons the Stars players did not come to Samuels' aid.
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"I don't think he's very well-liked, definitely not just from the Stars' point of view but probably in Australian cricket," White said. "People think he carries on a bit. There's probably a few reasons [we didn't check on him]. We were quite busy."