Cricket Season Thread

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127 runs needed for India, 5 wickets for Australia 37 overs left

Apparently Steven Smith "in trouble" for deliberately causing some damage to the pitch, anyone know more about this?
 
Should be scrutiny over the replacement keeper rule too. A bit ordinary that Pant was able to stay off the field to let a better keeper in Saha take the field, only for Pant whom is a better bat to return and nearly crack a ton. Clearly his elbow wasn't in that bad shape.
 
As an aside, I think Andrew Moore is doing a great job calling the cricket on the ABC, doing a great job. These days Jim Maxwell really rubs me the wrong way, trying to be cute with everything.

I have however noticed Maxwell subtly trying to belittle Moore at many opportunities.
 
@Tiger5150 said in [Cricket Season Thread](/post/1291211) said:
As an aside, I think Andrew Moore is doing a great job calling the cricket on the ABC, doing a great job. These days Jim Maxwell really rubs me the wrong way, trying to be cute with everything.

I have however noticed Maxwell subtly trying to belittle Moore at many opportunities.

I like them both. @GNR4LIFE loves Andrew Moore, especially when he calls the league.
 
@Cultured_Bogan said in [Cricket Season Thread](/post/1291201) said:
Should be scrutiny over the replacement keeper rule too. A bit ordinary that Pant was able to stay off the field to let a better keeper in Saha take the field, only for Pant whom is a better bat to return and nearly crack a ton. Clearly his elbow wasn't in that bad shape.

The match referee OK'd it since keeping involves diving around and since the injury was still so fresh. Definitely looks sus but any team would've done this.
 
@tig_prmz said in [Cricket Season Thread](/post/1291225) said:
@Cultured_Bogan said in [Cricket Season Thread](/post/1291201) said:
Should be scrutiny over the replacement keeper rule too. A bit ordinary that Pant was able to stay off the field to let a better keeper in Saha take the field, only for Pant whom is a better bat to return and nearly crack a ton. Clearly his elbow wasn't in that bad shape.

The match referee OK'd it since keeping involves diving around and since the injury was still so fresh. Definitely looks sus but any team would've done this.

Yeah, I would like the rule fixed to ensure it doesn't happen again. Saha is a superior keeper and Pant is the better bat. They effectively played with 12 players. Maybe teams need to have a back up keeper in their 11.

I wouldn't be happy with us exploiting the rule either for the record. It's not necessarily cheating because it is within the rules but it is very much not in the spirit of the game.
 
@Cultured_Bogan said in [Cricket Season Thread](/post/1291228) said:
@tig_prmz said in [Cricket Season Thread](/post/1291225) said:
@Cultured_Bogan said in [Cricket Season Thread](/post/1291201) said:
Should be scrutiny over the replacement keeper rule too. A bit ordinary that Pant was able to stay off the field to let a better keeper in Saha take the field, only for Pant whom is a better bat to return and nearly crack a ton. Clearly his elbow wasn't in that bad shape.

The match referee OK'd it since keeping involves diving around and since the injury was still so fresh. Definitely looks sus but any team would've done this.

Yeah, I would like the rule fixed to ensure it doesn't happen again. Saha is a superior keeper and Pant is the better bat. They effectively played with 12 players. Maybe teams need to have a back up keeper in their 11.

I wouldn't be happy with us exploiting the rule either for the record. It's not necessarily cheating because it is within the rules but it is very much not in the spirit of the game.

I don't think Pant was in any physical shape to keep yesterday considering he had gone for scans the night before. Today he batted simply because he had to.

For the future, I am happy with this rule as a wicket keeper is a specialist position, losing a wickie seriously handicaps you, but the replacement keeper shouldn't be allowed to bat. Not having a wicketkeeper pretty much nullifies your spinner's wicket taking ability IMO.
 
@tig_prmz said in [Cricket Season Thread](/post/1291232) said:
@Cultured_Bogan said in [Cricket Season Thread](/post/1291228) said:
@tig_prmz said in [Cricket Season Thread](/post/1291225) said:
@Cultured_Bogan said in [Cricket Season Thread](/post/1291201) said:
Should be scrutiny over the replacement keeper rule too. A bit ordinary that Pant was able to stay off the field to let a better keeper in Saha take the field, only for Pant whom is a better bat to return and nearly crack a ton. Clearly his elbow wasn't in that bad shape.

The match referee OK'd it since keeping involves diving around and since the injury was still so fresh. Definitely looks sus but any team would've done this.

Yeah, I would like the rule fixed to ensure it doesn't happen again. Saha is a superior keeper and Pant is the better bat. They effectively played with 12 players. Maybe teams need to have a back up keeper in their 11.

I wouldn't be happy with us exploiting the rule either for the record. It's not necessarily cheating because it is within the rules but it is very much not in the spirit of the game.

I don't think Pant was in any physical shape to keep yesterday considering he had gone for scans the night before. Today he batted simply because he had to.

For the future, I am happy with this rule as a wicket keeper is a specialist position, losing a wickie seriously handicaps you, but the replacement keeper shouldn't be allowed to bat. Not having a wicketkeeper pretty much nullifies your spinner's wicket taking ability IMO.

I think if you trade a keeper out, that's it. He's out for the game. Saha should have completed the game for India.
 
@coivtny said in [Cricket Season Thread](/post/1290943) said:
This is not going to be popular but I think Lyon is vastly overrated. He's a spinner, bowling in Sydney in the third session on day 4 and the batsmen are playing him with the greatest of ease. They should be jumping all over the place and trying to pad him away. Betting he takes 2 or less wickets this innings and he should be taking 5.

The whole attack is overrated. We constantly hear how amazing they are, yet here we are late on day 5, and they’ve only taken 3 wickets.
 
@GNR4LIFE said in [Cricket Season Thread](/post/1291235) said:
@coivtny said in [Cricket Season Thread](/post/1290943) said:
This is not going to be popular but I think Lyon is vastly overrated. He's a spinner, bowling in Sydney in the third session on day 4 and the batsmen are playing him with the greatest of ease. They should be jumping all over the place and trying to pad him away. Betting he takes 2 or less wickets this innings and he should be taking 5.

The whole attack is overrated. We constantly hear how amazing they are, yet here we are late on day 5, and they’ve only taken 3 wickets.

Cummins is going well. Doing a bit without much assistance. Hazlewood has bowled OK too.

Starc has done bugger all.
 
@Cultured_Bogan said in [Cricket Season Thread](/post/1291234) said:
@tig_prmz said in [Cricket Season Thread](/post/1291232) said:
@Cultured_Bogan said in [Cricket Season Thread](/post/1291228) said:
@tig_prmz said in [Cricket Season Thread](/post/1291225) said:
@Cultured_Bogan said in [Cricket Season Thread](/post/1291201) said:
Should be scrutiny over the replacement keeper rule too. A bit ordinary that Pant was able to stay off the field to let a better keeper in Saha take the field, only for Pant whom is a better bat to return and nearly crack a ton. Clearly his elbow wasn't in that bad shape.

The match referee OK'd it since keeping involves diving around and since the injury was still so fresh. Definitely looks sus but any team would've done this.

Yeah, I would like the rule fixed to ensure it doesn't happen again. Saha is a superior keeper and Pant is the better bat. They effectively played with 12 players. Maybe teams need to have a back up keeper in their 11.

I wouldn't be happy with us exploiting the rule either for the record. It's not necessarily cheating because it is within the rules but it is very much not in the spirit of the game.

I don't think Pant was in any physical shape to keep yesterday considering he had gone for scans the night before. Today he batted simply because he had to.

For the future, I am happy with this rule as a wicket keeper is a specialist position, losing a wickie seriously handicaps you, but the replacement keeper shouldn't be allowed to bat. Not having a wicketkeeper pretty much nullifies your spinner's wicket taking ability IMO.

I think if you trade a keeper out, that's it. He's out for the game. Saha should have completed the game for India.

But he isn't in the 11? Replacing an injured fielder is common practice but 12th/13th man is never allowed to bat/bowl. I don't know what else any other team would've done. It's a good rule and especially good when a wickie gets injured.
 
@tig_prmz said in [Cricket Season Thread](/post/1291253) said:
@Cultured_Bogan said in [Cricket Season Thread](/post/1291234) said:
@tig_prmz said in [Cricket Season Thread](/post/1291232) said:
@Cultured_Bogan said in [Cricket Season Thread](/post/1291228) said:
@tig_prmz said in [Cricket Season Thread](/post/1291225) said:
@Cultured_Bogan said in [Cricket Season Thread](/post/1291201) said:
Should be scrutiny over the replacement keeper rule too. A bit ordinary that Pant was able to stay off the field to let a better keeper in Saha take the field, only for Pant whom is a better bat to return and nearly crack a ton. Clearly his elbow wasn't in that bad shape.

The match referee OK'd it since keeping involves diving around and since the injury was still so fresh. Definitely looks sus but any team would've done this.

Yeah, I would like the rule fixed to ensure it doesn't happen again. Saha is a superior keeper and Pant is the better bat. They effectively played with 12 players. Maybe teams need to have a back up keeper in their 11.

I wouldn't be happy with us exploiting the rule either for the record. It's not necessarily cheating because it is within the rules but it is very much not in the spirit of the game.

I don't think Pant was in any physical shape to keep yesterday considering he had gone for scans the night before. Today he batted simply because he had to.

For the future, I am happy with this rule as a wicket keeper is a specialist position, losing a wickie seriously handicaps you, but the replacement keeper shouldn't be allowed to bat. Not having a wicketkeeper pretty much nullifies your spinner's wicket taking ability IMO.

I think if you trade a keeper out, that's it. He's out for the game. Saha should have completed the game for India.

But he isn't in the 11? Replacing an injured fielder is common practice but 12th/13th man is never allowed to bat/bowl. I don't know what else any other team would've done. It's a good rule and especially good when a wickie gets injured.


It has been the rule since the start of the game that a substitute fieldsman is NOT allowed to keep wickets, for exactly the reason we see in this game, it is a specialist position.

It was only changed when Mark Boucher received a horrible eye injury. Not sure why the severity of the injury makes a difference to the rule, but that is why and when it was changed. IMO it was a mistake to change it and it should have been left how it was.
 
If Pant had batted another hour India would have won. Usually days like today are absorbing. I didn’t see it that way. The Aussies never looked like taking 10 wickets, and the only side that flirted with victory was India.
 
@GNR4LIFE said in [Cricket Season Thread](/post/1291272) said:
And stick a fork in Lyon, he’s done.


On that track. Wait to see what he does in Brisbane.
 
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