Cricket Season Thread

[Geo]

Finally worked out why Warnie is wearing his Andy Cap hat..Advanced hair yeah yeah..


 

[momo_amp_medo]

Beats me why Aron Finch and Glenn Maxwell can’t get into this side.

 

[Tiger_Steve]

Beats me why Aron Finch and Glenn Maxwell can’t get into this side.

Because every time they get the chance, they fail. Finch still can’t hit a cover drive or off drive along the ground. Maxwell just does not have the temperament for test cricket. They are not the answer. Having said that, our current top 6 are not covering themselves in glory!

Next test: Warner and Pucovski to open. Wade to 5. Burns and Head out.

 

[Sabre]

Finally worked out why Warnie is wearing his Andy Cap hat..Advanced hair yeah yeah..



 

[happy_tiger]

Why does a batsman review an edge? How the hell can you not know you hit it, and why do you need to consult the non striker?

About the only time you'd be unsure would if your bat contacted the pitch or your pad

 

[Tiger5150]

I think a massive part of the problem with the Aussie batting right now is tactical/strategic and I blame Justin Langer.

The Aussie have clearly been told not to pull and hook short balls, all the way at least back to the series here against NZ. As a result, when the ball gets a little older, teams can bounce us with impunity. THere is no way of putting the pressure back on the bowling team.

This is the same country that gave us Ian Chappell, Dougie, Early S Waugh and Ricky POnting. Hooking and pulling is a very important weapon for a batsman and taking it away significantly impacts the balance of power.

Ive never rated Langer as a coach

 

[happy_tiger]

I think a massive part of the problem with the Aussie batting right now is tactical/strategic and I blame Justin Langer.

The Aussie have clearly been told not to pull and hook short balls, all the way at least back to the series here against NZ. As a result, when the ball gets a little older, teams can bounce us with impunity. THere is no way of putting the pressure back on the bowling team.

This is the same country that gave us Ian Chappell, Dougie, Early S Waugh and Ricky POnting. Hooking and pulling is a very important weapon for a batsman and taking it away significantly impacts the balance of power.

Ive never rated Langer as a coach

In two games we have probably won about an hour and a half of cricket


We thought India would rollover once Shami was injured and Kohli went home ......if I was the Indian coach I would have used the no Kohli and Shami as motivation to win ...win without our best batsmen and best bowler (arguably )

Pathetic ......couldn't score over 200 in either innings


I'm sorry but our infatuation to create an all rounder that can bat 6 is getting to the madness stage ...let it happen ...don't force it .....the 6 spot in my opinion is one of the most important roles in a batting line up .....If you get a good start they are probably going end up facing the 2nd new ball and if you get off to a stinker he needs to be able to hold the innings together and bat smart with the tail

 

[tig_prmz]

I think a massive part of the problem with the Aussie batting right now is tactical/strategic and I blame Justin Langer.

The Aussie have clearly been told not to pull and hook short balls, all the way at least back to the series here against NZ. As a result, when the ball gets a little older, teams can bounce us with impunity. THere is no way of putting the pressure back on the bowling team.

This is the same country that gave us Ian Chappell, Dougie, Early S Waugh and Ricky POnting. Hooking and pulling is a very important weapon for a batsman and taking it away significantly impacts the balance of power.

Ive never rated Langer as a coach

In two games we have probably won about an hour and a half of cricket


We thought India would rollover once Shami was injured and Kohli went home ......if I was the Indian coach I would have used the no Kohli and Shami as motivation to win ...win without our best batsmen and best bowler (arguably )

Pathetic ......couldn't score over 200 in either innings


I'm sorry but our infatuation to create an all rounder that can bat 6 is getting to the madness stage ...let it happen ...don't force it .....the 6 spot in my opinion is one of the most important roles in a batting line up .....If you get a good start they are probably going end up facing the 2nd new ball and if you get off to a stinker he needs to be able to hold the innings together and bat smart with the tail

Cam Green wasn't the issue at all.

Apart from Marnus/Smith, no one has the temparament to face 200 balls.
Warner/Pucovski to open and Wade/Green in the lower middle order.

I understand Aussies struggling a bit as there hasn't been much test match played in the last 18 months internationally or domestic.

 

[Tiger5150]

I think a massive part of the problem with the Aussie batting right now is tactical/strategic and I blame Justin Langer.

The Aussie have clearly been told not to pull and hook short balls, all the way at least back to the series here against NZ. As a result, when the ball gets a little older, teams can bounce us with impunity. THere is no way of putting the pressure back on the bowling team.

This is the same country that gave us Ian Chappell, Dougie, Early S Waugh and Ricky POnting. Hooking and pulling is a very important weapon for a batsman and taking it away significantly impacts the balance of power.

Ive never rated Langer as a coach

In two games we have probably won about an hour and a half of cricket


We thought India would rollover once Shami was injured and Kohli went home ......if I was the Indian coach I would have used the no Kohli and Shami as motivation to win ...win without our best batsmen and best bowler (arguably )

Pathetic ......couldn't score over 200 in either innings


I'm sorry but ***our infatuation to create an all rounder that can bat 6 is getting to the madness stage*** ...let it happen ...don't force it .....the 6 spot in my opinion is one of the most important roles in a batting line up .....If you get a good start they are probably going end up facing the 2nd new ball and if you get off to a stinker he needs to be able to hold the innings together and bat smart with the tail

Id be with you in the recent past, but I think Green is the one they have been looking for. Could be our Ben Stokes. Over 2m tall, bowls well at high 130's and scored 1st class hundreds. Looked good so far.

But Cam Green does back my complaint. Evidently (commentators opinion, I havent seen enough of him) Green was pulling and hooking prodigiously in Shield and Aus games (Scored a century in Aus A game) and int he Test we have the ridiculous sight of a 2m tall batsman, bending down to get hit. Stand up and HIT IT!

 

[tiger_one]

I think a massive part of the problem with the Aussie batting right now is tactical/strategic and I blame Justin Langer.

The Aussie have clearly been told not to pull and hook short balls, all the way at least back to the series here against NZ. As a result, when the ball gets a little older, teams can bounce us with impunity. THere is no way of putting the pressure back on the bowling team.

This is the same country that gave us Ian Chappell, Dougie, Early S Waugh and Ricky POnting. Hooking and pulling is a very important weapon for a batsman and taking it away significantly impacts the balance of power.

Ive never rated Langer as a coach

Could this restricted approach go back to the concussion question?

 

[Tiger5150]

I think a massive part of the problem with the Aussie batting right now is tactical/strategic and I blame Justin Langer.

The Aussie have clearly been told not to pull and hook short balls, all the way at least back to the series here against NZ. As a result, when the ball gets a little older, teams can bounce us with impunity. THere is no way of putting the pressure back on the bowling team.

This is the same country that gave us Ian Chappell, Dougie, Early S Waugh and Ricky POnting. Hooking and pulling is a very important weapon for a batsman and taking it away significantly impacts the balance of power.

Ive never rated Langer as a coach

Could this restricted approach go back to the concussion question?

I would hope not. IMO you are more likely to get hit in the head if you are not trying to hit it.

 

[happy_tiger]

I think a massive part of the problem with the Aussie batting right now is tactical/strategic and I blame Justin Langer.

The Aussie have clearly been told not to pull and hook short balls, all the way at least back to the series here against NZ. As a result, when the ball gets a little older, teams can bounce us with impunity. THere is no way of putting the pressure back on the bowling team.

This is the same country that gave us Ian Chappell, Dougie, Early S Waugh and Ricky POnting. Hooking and pulling is a very important weapon for a batsman and taking it away significantly impacts the balance of power.

Ive never rated Langer as a coach

In two games we have probably won about an hour and a half of cricket


We thought India would rollover once Shami was injured and Kohli went home ......if I was the Indian coach I would have used the no Kohli and Shami as motivation to win ...win without our best batsmen and best bowler (arguably )

Pathetic ......couldn't score over 200 in either innings


I'm sorry but our infatuation to create an all rounder that can bat 6 is getting to the madness stage ...let it happen ...don't force it .....the 6 spot in my opinion is one of the most important roles in a batting line up .....If you get a good start they are probably going end up facing the 2nd new ball and if you get off to a stinker he needs to be able to hold the innings together and bat smart with the tail

Cam Green wasn't the issue at all.

Apart from Marnus/Smith, no one has the temparament to face 200 balls.
Warner/Pucovski to open and Wade/Green in the lower middle order.

I understand Aussies struggling a bit as there hasn't been much test match played in the last 18 months internationally or domestic.

Green isn't a Test Match quality 6 ...well not yet anyway

 

[Geo]

I think a massive part of the problem with the Aussie batting right now is tactical/strategic and I blame Justin Langer.

The Aussie have clearly been told not to pull and hook short balls, all the way at least back to the series here against NZ. As a result, when the ball gets a little older, teams can bounce us with impunity. THere is no way of putting the pressure back on the bowling team.

This is the same country that gave us Ian Chappell, Dougie, Early S Waugh and Ricky POnting. Hooking and pulling is a very important weapon for a batsman and taking it away significantly impacts the balance of power.

Ive never rated Langer as a coach

In two games we have probably won about an hour and a half of cricket


We thought India would rollover once Shami was injured and Kohli went home ......if I was the Indian coach I would have used the no Kohli and Shami as motivation to win ...win without our best batsmen and best bowler (arguably )

Pathetic ......couldn't score over 200 in either innings


I'm sorry but ***our infatuation to create an all rounder that can bat 6 is getting to the madness stage*** ...let it happen ...don't force it .....the 6 spot in my opinion is one of the most important roles in a batting line up .....If you get a good start they are probably going end up facing the 2nd new ball and if you get off to a stinker he needs to be able to hold the innings together and bat smart with the tail

Id be with you in the recent past, but I think Green is the one they have been looking for. Could be our Ben Stokes. Over 2m tall, bowls well at high 130's and scored 1st class hundreds. Looked good so far.

But Cam Green does back my complaint. Evidently (commentators opinion, I havent seen enough of him) Green was pulling and hooking prodigiously in Shield and Aus games (Scored a century in Aus A game) and int he Test we have the ridiculous sight of a 2m tall batsman, bending down to get hit. Stand up and HIT IT!

He did and got caught..

 

[happy_tiger]

I think a massive part of the problem with the Aussie batting right now is tactical/strategic and I blame Justin Langer.

The Aussie have clearly been told not to pull and hook short balls, all the way at least back to the series here against NZ. As a result, when the ball gets a little older, teams can bounce us with impunity. THere is no way of putting the pressure back on the bowling team.

This is the same country that gave us Ian Chappell, Dougie, Early S Waugh and Ricky POnting. Hooking and pulling is a very important weapon for a batsman and taking it away significantly impacts the balance of power.

Ive never rated Langer as a coach

In two games we have probably won about an hour and a half of cricket


We thought India would rollover once Shami was injured and Kohli went home ......if I was the Indian coach I would have used the no Kohli and Shami as motivation to win ...win without our best batsmen and best bowler (arguably )

Pathetic ......couldn't score over 200 in either innings


I'm sorry but ***our infatuation to create an all rounder that can bat 6 is getting to the madness stage*** ...let it happen ...don't force it .....the 6 spot in my opinion is one of the most important roles in a batting line up .....If you get a good start they are probably going end up facing the 2nd new ball and if you get off to a stinker he needs to be able to hold the innings together and bat smart with the tail

Id be with you in the recent past, but I think Green is the one they have been looking for. Could be our Ben Stokes. Over 2m tall, bowls well at high 130's and scored 1st class hundreds. Looked good so far.

But Cam Green does back my complaint. Evidently (commentators opinion, I havent seen enough of him) Green was pulling and hooking prodigiously in Shield and Aus games (Scored a century in Aus A game) and int he Test we have the ridiculous sight of a 2m tall batsman, bending down to get hit. Stand up and HIT IT!

I can't imagine ANY coach trying to tell a batsmen not to play their natural game .....many of our current Test 11 are not noted hookers ...well not in the Ponting level ...many batsmen in their early test career put the hook in their travel bag early on

 

[happy_tiger]

Lyons needs to step up this series ...very quiet and ineffective so far

 

[Tiger5150]

I think a massive part of the problem with the Aussie batting right now is tactical/strategic and I blame Justin Langer.

The Aussie have clearly been told not to pull and hook short balls, all the way at least back to the series here against NZ. As a result, when the ball gets a little older, teams can bounce us with impunity. THere is no way of putting the pressure back on the bowling team.

This is the same country that gave us Ian Chappell, Dougie, Early S Waugh and Ricky POnting. Hooking and pulling is a very important weapon for a batsman and taking it away significantly impacts the balance of power.

Ive never rated Langer as a coach

In two games we have probably won about an hour and a half of cricket


We thought India would rollover once Shami was injured and Kohli went home ......if I was the Indian coach I would have used the no Kohli and Shami as motivation to win ...win without our best batsmen and best bowler (arguably )

Pathetic ......couldn't score over 200 in either innings


I'm sorry but ***our infatuation to create an all rounder that can bat 6 is getting to the madness stage*** ...let it happen ...don't force it .....the 6 spot in my opinion is one of the most important roles in a batting line up .....If you get a good start they are probably going end up facing the 2nd new ball and if you get off to a stinker he needs to be able to hold the innings together and bat smart with the tail

Id be with you in the recent past, but I think Green is the one they have been looking for. Could be our Ben Stokes. Over 2m tall, bowls well at high 130's and scored 1st class hundreds. Looked good so far.

But Cam Green does back my complaint. Evidently (commentators opinion, I havent seen enough of him) Green was pulling and hooking prodigiously in Shield and Aus games (Scored a century in Aus A game) and int he Test we have the ridiculous sight of a 2m tall batsman, bending down to get hit. Stand up and HIT IT!

He did and got caught..

Well.......yeah......got me there.

I still stand by that if they hooked and pulled more often instead of putting it away it would have releived the pressure and taken away that tactic.

 

[Tiger5150]

I think a massive part of the problem with the Aussie batting right now is tactical/strategic and I blame Justin Langer.

The Aussie have clearly been told not to pull and hook short balls, all the way at least back to the series here against NZ. As a result, when the ball gets a little older, teams can bounce us with impunity. THere is no way of putting the pressure back on the bowling team.

This is the same country that gave us Ian Chappell, Dougie, Early S Waugh and Ricky POnting. Hooking and pulling is a very important weapon for a batsman and taking it away significantly impacts the balance of power.

Ive never rated Langer as a coach

In two games we have probably won about an hour and a half of cricket


We thought India would rollover once Shami was injured and Kohli went home ......if I was the Indian coach I would have used the no Kohli and Shami as motivation to win ...win without our best batsmen and best bowler (arguably )

Pathetic ......couldn't score over 200 in either innings


I'm sorry but ***our infatuation to create an all rounder that can bat 6 is getting to the madness stage*** ...let it happen ...don't force it .....the 6 spot in my opinion is one of the most important roles in a batting line up .....If you get a good start they are probably going end up facing the 2nd new ball and if you get off to a stinker he needs to be able to hold the innings together and bat smart with the tail

Id be with you in the recent past, but I think Green is the one they have been looking for. Could be our Ben Stokes. Over 2m tall, bowls well at high 130's and scored 1st class hundreds. Looked good so far.

But Cam Green does back my complaint. Evidently (commentators opinion, I havent seen enough of him) Green was pulling and hooking prodigiously in Shield and Aus games (Scored a century in Aus A game) and int he Test we have the ridiculous sight of a 2m tall batsman, bending down to get hit. Stand up and HIT IT!

I can't imagine ANY coach trying to tell a batsmen not to play their natural game .....many of our current Test 11 are not noted hookers ...well not in the Ponting level ...many batsmen in their early test career put the hook in their travel bag early on

If thats true (im not sure it is) then it is a blight on coaching at 1st grade levels.

These young guys are brought up on the best, fastest and bounciest pitches in the world (and synthetic as kids). Australian batsmens should be the best hookers and pullers in the worlds and opposition teams should be too scared to bounce them.

 

[happy_tiger]

I think a massive part of the problem with the Aussie batting right now is tactical/strategic and I blame Justin Langer.

The Aussie have clearly been told not to pull and hook short balls, all the way at least back to the series here against NZ. As a result, when the ball gets a little older, teams can bounce us with impunity. THere is no way of putting the pressure back on the bowling team.

This is the same country that gave us Ian Chappell, Dougie, Early S Waugh and Ricky POnting. Hooking and pulling is a very important weapon for a batsman and taking it away significantly impacts the balance of power.

Ive never rated Langer as a coach

In two games we have probably won about an hour and a half of cricket


We thought India would rollover once Shami was injured and Kohli went home ......if I was the Indian coach I would have used the no Kohli and Shami as motivation to win ...win without our best batsmen and best bowler (arguably )

Pathetic ......couldn't score over 200 in either innings


I'm sorry but ***our infatuation to create an all rounder that can bat 6 is getting to the madness stage*** ...let it happen ...don't force it .....the 6 spot in my opinion is one of the most important roles in a batting line up .....If you get a good start they are probably going end up facing the 2nd new ball and if you get off to a stinker he needs to be able to hold the innings together and bat smart with the tail

Id be with you in the recent past, but I think Green is the one they have been looking for. Could be our Ben Stokes. Over 2m tall, bowls well at high 130's and scored 1st class hundreds. Looked good so far.

But Cam Green does back my complaint. Evidently (commentators opinion, I havent seen enough of him) Green was pulling and hooking prodigiously in Shield and Aus games (Scored a century in Aus A game) and int he Test we have the ridiculous sight of a 2m tall batsman, bending down to get hit. Stand up and HIT IT!

I can't imagine ANY coach trying to tell a batsmen not to play their natural game .....many of our current Test 11 are not noted hookers ...well not in the Ponting level ...many batsmen in their early test career put the hook in their travel bag early on


If thats true (im not sure it is) then it is a blight on coaching at 1st grade levels.

These young guys are brought up on the best, fastest and bounciest pitches in the world (and synthetic as kids). Australian batsmens should be the best hookers and pullers in the worlds and opposition teams should be too scared to bounce them.

Your shooting the messenger ......none of the blokes in our current side would make our hundred best hookers list ...doesn't mean they can't bat ...just not natural hookers ...and many of best hookers I've seen are under 6 foot ..well under 6 foot ...probably because it is easier to get into position and longer limbs can get tigtened up too easily ...

 

[Tiger5150]

I think a massive part of the problem with the Aussie batting right now is tactical/strategic and I blame Justin Langer.

The Aussie have clearly been told not to pull and hook short balls, all the way at least back to the series here against NZ. As a result, when the ball gets a little older, teams can bounce us with impunity. THere is no way of putting the pressure back on the bowling team.

This is the same country that gave us Ian Chappell, Dougie, Early S Waugh and Ricky POnting. Hooking and pulling is a very important weapon for a batsman and taking it away significantly impacts the balance of power.

Ive never rated Langer as a coach

In two games we have probably won about an hour and a half of cricket


We thought India would rollover once Shami was injured and Kohli went home ......if I was the Indian coach I would have used the no Kohli and Shami as motivation to win ...win without our best batsmen and best bowler (arguably )

Pathetic ......couldn't score over 200 in either innings


I'm sorry but ***our infatuation to create an all rounder that can bat 6 is getting to the madness stage*** ...let it happen ...don't force it .....the 6 spot in my opinion is one of the most important roles in a batting line up .....If you get a good start they are probably going end up facing the 2nd new ball and if you get off to a stinker he needs to be able to hold the innings together and bat smart with the tail

Id be with you in the recent past, but I think Green is the one they have been looking for. Could be our Ben Stokes. Over 2m tall, bowls well at high 130's and scored 1st class hundreds. Looked good so far.

But Cam Green does back my complaint. Evidently (commentators opinion, I havent seen enough of him) Green was pulling and hooking prodigiously in Shield and Aus games (Scored a century in Aus A game) and int he Test we have the ridiculous sight of a 2m tall batsman, bending down to get hit. Stand up and HIT IT!

I can't imagine ANY coach trying to tell a batsmen not to play their natural game .....many of our current Test 11 are not noted hookers ...well not in the Ponting level ...many batsmen in their early test career put the hook in their travel bag early on


If thats true (im not sure it is) then it is a blight on coaching at 1st grade levels.

These young guys are brought up on the best, fastest and bounciest pitches in the world (and synthetic as kids). Australian batsmens should be the best hookers and pullers in the worlds and opposition teams should be too scared to bounce them.

Your shooting the messenger ......none of the blokes in our current side would make our hundred best hookers list ...doesn't mean they can't bat ...just not natural hookers ...and many of best hookers I've seen are under 6 foot ..well under 6 foot ...probably because it is easier to get into position and longer limbs can get tigtened up too easily ...

No messenger shooting mate, if I come off annoyed, its at the situation not you.

Langer should have all of them in the nets with the tennis ball machine.

 

[tig_prmz]

I think a massive part of the problem with the Aussie batting right now is tactical/strategic and I blame Justin Langer.

The Aussie have clearly been told not to pull and hook short balls, all the way at least back to the series here against NZ. As a result, when the ball gets a little older, teams can bounce us with impunity. THere is no way of putting the pressure back on the bowling team.

This is the same country that gave us Ian Chappell, Dougie, Early S Waugh and Ricky POnting. Hooking and pulling is a very important weapon for a batsman and taking it away significantly impacts the balance of power.

Ive never rated Langer as a coach

In two games we have probably won about an hour and a half of cricket


We thought India would rollover once Shami was injured and Kohli went home ......if I was the Indian coach I would have used the no Kohli and Shami as motivation to win ...win without our best batsmen and best bowler (arguably )

Pathetic ......couldn't score over 200 in either innings


I'm sorry but our infatuation to create an all rounder that can bat 6 is getting to the madness stage ...let it happen ...don't force it .....the 6 spot in my opinion is one of the most important roles in a batting line up .....If you get a good start they are probably going end up facing the 2nd new ball and if you get off to a stinker he needs to be able to hold the innings together and bat smart with the tail

Cam Green wasn't the issue at all.

Apart from Marnus/Smith, no one has the temparament to face 200 balls.
Warner/Pucovski to open and Wade/Green in the lower middle order.

I understand Aussies struggling a bit as there hasn't been much test match played in the last 18 months internationally or domestic.

Green isn't a Test Match quality 6 ...well not yet anyway

He showed he had the temperament in the last innings. He has a lot of mental resilience. The top order is a lot more important than No.6. You only need them if the top order has failed.