Cricket Season Thread

bigsiro said:
Warne was excellent. For the short time he sat in the box. 😔
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Warne was good in some ways but I hated how he pushed agendas against those he didn't like and those he did like. It wasn't just Starc he always dogged, he continually talked down some very good players and favoured his mates who weren't as good. IMO Warne lost a lot of credibility as a commentator. Loved him as a player though.
 
king_sirro said:
Warne was good in some ways but I hated how he pushed agendas against those he didn't like and those he did like. It wasn't just Starc he always dogged, he continually talked down some very good players and favoured his mates who weren't as good. IMO Warne lost a lot of credibility as a commentator. Loved him as a player though.
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I agree. He'd subtly talk down the SCG and promote the MCG at every opportunity. Her did favour some players over others. I remember he talked up Mitch Swepson unbelievably. Reckoned he was the second coming. He turned out to be quite an average leg spinner.
 
coivtny said:
I agree. He'd subtly talk down the SCG and promote the MCG at every opportunity. Her did favour some players over others. I remember he talked up Mitch Swepson unbelievably. Reckoned he was the second coming. He turned out to be quite an average leg spinner.
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Yep. Talked up Stoinis at a time he was struggling too. It was OK for his favourites to struggle, but one bad game from someone he didnt like and he tried to end their career. Often tried to influence keeping Usman out for lesser players as well.
 
king_sirro said:
Warne was good in some ways but I hated how he pushed agendas against those he didn't like and those he did like. It wasn't just Starc he always dogged, he continually talked down some very good players and favoured his mates who weren't as good. IMO Warne lost a lot of credibility as a commentator. Loved him as a player though.
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“Loved him as a player”
Yep, and that’s all. He was not a role model, but a fun larrikin who could bowl magic.
 
coivtny said:
I agree. He'd subtly talk down the SCG and promote the MCG at every opportunity. Her did favour some players over others. I remember he talked up Mitch Swepson unbelievably. Reckoned he was the second coming. He turned out to be quite an average leg spinner.
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It was cringe worthy at times, the way he’d say outlandish crapola, it was like he did it to stay relevant but it made me think that outside leg spin he had no idea?
He didn’t need to try and stay relevant, he was the greatest bowler of magic ever, he was always relevant.
 
One thing I miss is World Series Cricket which involved Australia vs 2 other countries where each team played each team 3 or 4 times with top 2 in a best of 3 final .
We got a number of games and I attended every SCG game in the 80's
I guess this " franchise cricket " and T20 in general wiped all that out .
So now all I have to look forward to are the Tests ( I wish opposition a bit more competitive) and a few , 3 I think ODI 's
T20 obviously ropes in a fair bit of the population who didn't understand the subtle nuances of batting and bowling and therefore were not really cricket followers and now all they need to understand is who can smash the most boundaries
 
tiger_one said:
Manly Oval for todays W1s match Manly against Sydney University - looks a treat.
Wanna bat or bowl?
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Without touching it, there looks to be a slight green tinge that won’t be there later, so without knowing my teams best attributes I’m going to bowl first, although my initial instincts are to bat first 9/10 and on the tenth time you think about bowling and bat first anyway. For a one day game I don’t think there will be anything in it for the bowlers later on, so I’ll take advantage of the green tinge early.
Let me know how it goes.
Thanks for posting that, it was certainly something different to think about and discuss. Good luck out there and.
 
Stevec said:
One thing I miss is World Series Cricket which involved Australia vs 2 other countries where each team played each team 3 or 4 times with top 2 in a best of 3 final .
We got a number of games and I attended every SCG game in the 80's
I guess this " franchise cricket " and T20 in general wiped all that out .
So now all I have to look forward to are the Tests ( I wish opposition a bit more competitive) and a few , 3 I think ODI 's
T20 obviously ropes in a fair bit of the population who didn't understand the subtle nuances of batting and bowling and therefore were not really cricket followers and now all they need to understand is who can smash the most boundaries
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I’m with ya. They sold us out to the highest bidder when it comes to ODIs, when they gave it to pay tv and not free to air. I taught people to love cricket watching ODI games, like my Nana. The weather, pitch conditions, etc still play a part. I remember Nan saying why don’t they just hit a six every ball until I explained all the different things that can effect each delivery and the lead up deliveries to each wicket. Micheal Bevan’s heroics and general good looks helped get Nana into cricket when he won those matches from unwinnable positions. She loved tests too before long.
 
Buttface said:
Without touching it, there looks to be a slight green tinge that won’t be there later, so without knowing my teams best attributes I’m going to bowl first, although my initial instincts are to bat first 9/10 and on the tenth time you think about bowling and bat first anyway. For a one day game I don’t think there will be anything in it for the bowlers later on, so I’ll take advantage of the green tinge early.
Let me know how it goes.
Thanks for posting that, it was certainly something different to think about and discuss. Good luck out there and.
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Cricket: players, teams past and present, captains, now and then - even ovals, home and away..... few other sports ignite opinions as this! Even the weather cops its medicine.

And champion @Buttface, I'm not at Manly Oval 😢 - was just viewing a site for the Manly club - I actually have a passion for grassroots sport everywhere.
 
Buttface said:
I’m with ya. They sold us out to the highest bidder when it comes to ODIs, when they gave it to pay tv and not free to air. I taught people to love cricket watching ODI games, like my Nana. The weather, pitch conditions, etc still play a part. I remember Nan saying why don’t they just hit a six every ball until I explained all the different things that can effect each delivery and the lead up deliveries to each wicket. Micheal Bevan’s heroics and general good looks helped get Nana into cricket when he won those matches from unwinnable positions. She loved tests too before long.
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So much was great Richie and Tony's pitch report using car keys
Lillee ,Thommo, Pascoe and remember we brought in a spinner that no one had heard of and the press call him "Peter Who " Peter Taylor I think - he was good ,
Yes I got very excited when Bevan hit a 4 off the last ball at SCG to beat Windies .
It just seems like this Summer has very few international cricket days compared to the past .
Cant complain too much the recent ODI world cup in India was great watching
 
Stevec said:
It just seems like this Summer has very few international cricket days compared to the past .
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Agree. Partly due to the poor test opposition.

The three tests against Pakistan ended on day 4, on two occasions they barely got past lunch on day 4. In two of the tests Pakistan were rolled for 89 (1st test) and 115 in the 3rd test.

Then the poor old Windies got rolled for 120 in the second dig of the last test and the game finished before lunch on day 3.

Australia are good, but not that good. The demise of test cricket around the world (apart from India and England) is sad to see.
 
fibrodreaming said:
Agree. Partly due to the poor test opposition.

The three tests against Pakistan ended on day 4, on two occasions they barely got past lunch on day 4. In two of the tests Pakistan were rolled for 89 (1st test) and 115 in the 3rd test.

Then the poor old Windies got rolled for 120 in the second dig of the last test and the game finished before lunch on day 3.

Australia are good, but not that good. The demise of test cricket around the world (apart from India and England) is sad to see.
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Agree mostly except for one thing “Australia are good, but not that good.”
Test Champs and have a habit now of winning or at least not losing from anywhere in both test and ODI formats. Yes we are that good, we just don’t have the generational players, but a team of great ones. All bowlers now have 250 test wickets.
I think the Pakis will be a force again as they come through this rebuilding stage but the WIs are a long way off. Hopefully this newer crop of board and players can get cricket back to where it should be in their country/islands. I read 10years or so ago how the infighting between islands and the close proximity to the US and basketball dollars taking the best young talent was the reason behind their demise, now add in the T20 money taking the current crop they do develop I can’t see them being a test powerhouse for a long time if ever. It’s a shame.
 
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