Culture Change (Lol)

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lol you guys are kidding yourselves if you think any of this is Ivan's fault.

Ivan has done a tremendous job on making us the defensive team we are today. Our attack is ordinary (to say the least), but that's a mixture of it being a new spine and us just not having the cattle. Those are the facts, no matter how painful and pathetic tonight was.

There's no reason to not believe in Ivan, yet.

Agreed. Ivan has improved our defence considerably. Our attack sucks because we have an average (that’s being generous) squad. You can certainly question some of his signings, but otherwise there’s no doubt Cleary is guiding us in the right direction. Rebuilds take time - from memory, Panthers missed the finals in 2012-13, and then made the prelims in 2014.
Tonight was extremely disappointing, but have faith in the big picture. Cleary is miles ahead of Taylor

I agree. We just need to build slowly without big mistakes which coaches like Taylor make.
 
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lol you guys are kidding yourselves if you think any of this is Ivan's fault.

Ivan has done a tremendous job on making us the defensive team we are today. Our attack is ordinary (to say the least), but that's a mixture of it being a new spine and us just not having the cattle. Those are the facts, no matter how painful and pathetic tonight was.

There's no reason to not believe in Ivan, yet.

Agreed. Ivan has improved our defence considerably. Our attack sucks because we have an average (that’s being generous) squad. You can certainly question some of his signings, but otherwise there’s no doubt Cleary is guiding us in the right direction. Rebuilds take time - from memory, Panthers missed the finals in 2012-13, and then made the prelims in 2014.
Tonight was extremely disappointing, but have faith in the big picture. Cleary is miles ahead of Taylor

Correct.
 
At this point in time Ivan is no different to Mick Potter. Some things have changed but this type of performance they showed tonight is just not acceptable.

You can not talk culture and then play like that.
 
I wonder why JT got bashed from pillar to post for failing miserably for not fixing the defence when it was his number one goal, yet Cleary gets a free pass for not changing the culture when that’s his main goal. Double standards.
 
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I wonder why JT got bashed from pillar to post for failing miserably for not fixing the defence when it was his number one goal, yet Cleary gets a free pass for not changing the culture when that’s his main goal. Double standards.

Ohh please get over your defense of JT

You cant see rhyme nor reason on anything when you are fixated on him.
 
We have no juniors coming through, Any decent player avoids us like the plague.
We are screwed for years to come.
 
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I wonder why JT got bashed from pillar to post for failing miserably for not fixing the defence when it was his number one goal, yet Cleary gets a free pass for not changing the culture when that’s his main goal. Double standards.

Ohh please get over your defense of JT

You cant see rhyme nor reason on anything when you are fixated on him.

Double standards champ
 
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They're a low club, there's no denying this. You could sign Bellamy and every other Storm player and we would still miss the finals.

The sooner they get rid of Dad's army the better.

And Joey was saying before the game Farah and Marshall “must” be re-signed :laughing:

Was Farah even out there tonight?

I hate getting sucked into this side. It kills me. I was content weeks ago when I believed we blew our chance for finals football after Gold Coast. They then suck me in once again by beating two of the heavyweights. It's killing me Gunners.
 
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I wonder of our 5 captains , who has the best win /lose ratio ??

Who was even the captain tonight? Does it even matter anymore? Talk about a role that’s been devalued.
 

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