Dale Finucane

[Nelson]

Storm would probably want a player in order to release Smith for 2022
As much as I would not like to see it do you look at Simpkin or Liddle but he has just re signed

They can have them all

Player swaps are fantasies in the NRL. They don't really exist. They can definitely have one of them though. We keep the other as a utility.

Well, except for that whole player swap that happened last season...

It's very very rare. It only exists if two clubs and two players agree to it. There is no trade system in place.

Sure, but we at least created a blueprint for it last season. We are not doing well at the traditional methods of recruitment (i.e. be a desirable destination or throw stupid money to outbid the market) so it wouldn't hurt to try being creative.

Smith is under contract for next year so Melbourne have a say in whether or not he's released. We can make ourselves desirable to Smith by throwing stupid money at him, but then so could other clubs. Our advantage over other clubs lies in what we could offer Melbourne, given we have some of the best young talent in the league.

Smith wants his extra $400K next year and needs a release from Melbourne to get it. We can help get that release by giving up someone who, let's face it, is probably not going to be kicking and screaming about the prospect of developing their career in the best system in the game. Worth exploring.

I'd refuse to engage like that any more. It'd be really simple. We sign Smith for the year following his release from the Storm. That is the contract we negotiate. If we get a deal on that contract we go to Melbourne and state can we do a deal ? Of course you'd try to get him early if we could. Surely Liddle or Simpkin want to be getting plenty of NRL time and in that situation I reckon one of them would be happy to go.

But any club can negotiate the year after that, that's the point. We would be competing against the whole market and we have not been doing well at that. That's why, as an alternative, we could try to create a more limited market of club's that have something to offer Melbourne, where we would be more competitive.

 

[WT2K]

We won't be signing Finucane - he's asking for more than the WT are willing to pay and wants a long term deal which is the other sticking point.

So just to be clear we are rejecting him.

Good business plan to move away from TPJ to chase our priority and then reject the priority signing and aim for no one.

In the words of the A-team, "I love it when a plan comes together".

Who said Finucane was out priority signing?

TBH, I would of liked either, but the Finucane deal was fraught with danger and I'm sure quite a few of us wouldn't remember that in his year 4, if he wasn't performing?

It sucks, but there are others?

Could you give me a list of 10 others who are equal ability who will help us improve greatly

Said list: 

 

[TigerWest]

We won't be signing Finucane - he's asking for more than the WT are willing to pay and wants a long term deal which is the other sticking point.

So just to be clear we are rejecting him.

Good business plan to move away from TPJ to chase our priority and then reject the priority signing and aim for no one.

In the words of the A-team, "I love it when a plan comes together".

Who said Finucane was out priority signing?

TBH, I would of liked either, but the Finucane deal was fraught with danger and I'm sure quite a few of us wouldn't remember that in his year 4, if he wasn't performing?

It sucks, but there are others?

Could you give me a list of 10 others who are equal ability who will help us improve greatly

No I can't, but are we looking at his value (this season) and paying this for the 4 years? None of us will remember this, but you have to wonder if he will be the same in his latter seasons?

 

[happy_tiger]

We won't be signing Finucane - he's asking for more than the WT are willing to pay and wants a long term deal which is the other sticking point.

So just to be clear we are rejecting him.

Good business plan to move away from TPJ to chase our priority and then reject the priority signing and aim for no one.

In the words of the A-team, "I love it when a plan comes together".

Who said Finucane was out priority signing?

TBH, I would of liked either, but the Finucane deal was fraught with danger and I'm sure quite a few of us wouldn't remember that in his year 4, if he wasn't performing?

It sucks, but there are others?

Could you give me a list of 10 others who are equal ability who will help us improve greatly

Said list: 

Bit like our weekly 3,2,1 counts

 

[happy_tiger]

We won't be signing Finucane - he's asking for more than the WT are willing to pay and wants a long term deal which is the other sticking point.

So just to be clear we are rejecting him.

Good business plan to move away from TPJ to chase our priority and then reject the priority signing and aim for no one.

In the words of the A-team, "I love it when a plan comes together".

Who said Finucane was out priority signing?

TBH, I would of liked either, but the Finucane deal was fraught with danger and I'm sure quite a few of us wouldn't remember that in his year 4, if he wasn't performing?

It sucks, but there are others?

Could you give me a list of 10 others who are equal ability who will help us improve greatly

No I can't, but are we looking at his value (this season) and paying this for the 4 years? None of us we remember, but you have to wonder if he will be the same in his latter seasons?

Well I wasn't doing it that way ......First two years yes , 3rd season 100 k off , 4 year only in our favour and highly incentive based

But as I said he is similar to Gallen and could quite easily get an extra 4 years .......the bloke works his butt off from everything I have read .....

Just remember ...the Storm rarely by big names ...they stole him off the Dogs when they were playing Finals footy

 

[TigerWest]

We won't be signing Finucane - he's asking for more than the WT are willing to pay and wants a long term deal which is the other sticking point.

So just to be clear we are rejecting him.

Good business plan to move away from TPJ to chase our priority and then reject the priority signing and aim for no one.

In the words of the A-team, "I love it when a plan comes together".

Who said Finucane was out priority signing?

TBH, I would of liked either, but the Finucane deal was fraught with danger and I'm sure quite a few of us wouldn't remember that in his year 4, if he wasn't performing?

It sucks, but there are others?

Could you give me a list of 10 others who are equal ability who will help us improve greatly

No I can't, but are we looking at his value (this season) and paying this for the 4 years? None of us we remember, but you have to wonder if he will be the same in his latter seasons?

Well I wasn't doing it that way ......First two years yes , 3rd season 100 k off , 4 year only in our favour and highly incentive based

But as I said he is similar to Gallen and could quite easily get an extra 4 years .......the bloke works his butt off from everything I have read .....

Just remember ...the Storm rarely by big names ...they stole him off the Dogs when they were playing Finals footy

OK, it was my understanding he wanted something like $700k per season for 4 seasons? If he accepted a CO after 2 years, I would think its a no brainer, but his manager wont accept that imo.

 

[earl]

Storm would probably want a player in order to release Smith for 2022
As much as I would not like to see it do you look at Simpkin or Liddle but he has just re signed

They can have them all

Player swaps are fantasies in the NRL. They don't really exist. They can definitely have one of them though. We keep the other as a utility.

Well, except for that whole player swap that happened last season...

It's very very rare. It only exists if two clubs and two players agree to it. There is no trade system in place.

Sure, but we at least created a blueprint for it last season. We are not doing well at the traditional methods of recruitment (i.e. be a desirable destination or throw stupid money to outbid the market) so it wouldn't hurt to try being creative.

Smith is under contract for next year so Melbourne have a say in whether or not he's released. We can make ourselves desirable to Smith by throwing stupid money at him, but then so could other clubs. Our advantage over other clubs lies in what we could offer Melbourne, given we have some of the best young talent in the league.

Smith wants his extra $400K next year and needs a release from Melbourne to get it. We can help get that release by giving up someone who, let's face it, is probably not going to be kicking and screaming about the prospect of developing their career in the best system in the game. Worth exploring.

I'd refuse to engage like that any more. It'd be really simple. We sign Smith for the year following his release from the Storm. That is the contract we negotiate. If we get a deal on that contract we go to Melbourne and state can we do a deal ? Of course you'd try to get him early if we could. Surely Liddle or Simpkin want to be getting plenty of NRL time and in that situation I reckon one of them would be happy to go.

But any club can negotiate the year after that, that's the point. We would be competing against the whole market and we have not been doing well at that. That's why, as an alternative, we could try to create a more limited market of club's that have something to offer Melbourne, where we would be more competitive.

It's not worth trying this because we aren't covered. We need to land the fish not be used as a bargaining chip.

 

[earl]

We won't be signing Finucane - he's asking for more than the WT are willing to pay and wants a long term deal which is the other sticking point.

So just to be clear we are rejecting him.

Good business plan to move away from TPJ to chase our priority and then reject the priority signing and aim for no one.

In the words of the A-team, "I love it when a plan comes together".

Who said Finucane was out priority signing?

TBH, I would of liked either, but the Finucane deal was fraught with danger and I'm sure quite a few of us wouldn't remember that in his year 4, if he wasn't performing?

It sucks, but there are others?

Could you give me a list of 10 others who are equal ability who will help us improve greatly

I doubt he will improve us greatly. If he does then we should have a shot. I like him as a player. He'd be great here.

 

[Tiger5150]

We won't be signing Finucane - he's asking for more than the WT are willing to pay and wants a long term deal which is the other sticking point.

So just to be clear we are rejecting him.

Good business plan to move away from TPJ to chase our priority and then reject the priority signing and aim for no one.

In the words of the A-team, "I love it when a plan comes together".

Who said Finucane was out priority signing?

TBH, I would of liked either, but the Finucane deal was fraught with danger and I'm sure quite a few of us wouldn't remember that in his year 4, if he wasn't performing?

It sucks, but there are others?

Could you give me a list of 10 others who are equal ability who will help us improve greatly

at any cost?

 

[happy_tiger]

We won't be signing Finucane - he's asking for more than the WT are willing to pay and wants a long term deal which is the other sticking point.

So just to be clear we are rejecting him.

Good business plan to move away from TPJ to chase our priority and then reject the priority signing and aim for no one.

In the words of the A-team, "I love it when a plan comes together".

Who said Finucane was out priority signing?

TBH, I would of liked either, but the Finucane deal was fraught with danger and I'm sure quite a few of us wouldn't remember that in his year 4, if he wasn't performing?

It sucks, but there are others?

Could you give me a list of 10 others who are equal ability who will help us improve greatly

I doubt he will improve us greatly. If he does then we should have a shot. I like him as a player. He'd be great here.

I agree ...but you have to start somewhere ...I mentioned a few pages ago what sole forward could you bring here that does turn us around ???Answer : no one

 

[happy_tiger]

We won't be signing Finucane - he's asking for more than the WT are willing to pay and wants a long term deal which is the other sticking point.

So just to be clear we are rejecting him.

Good business plan to move away from TPJ to chase our priority and then reject the priority signing and aim for no one.

In the words of the A-team, "I love it when a plan comes together".

Who said Finucane was out priority signing?

TBH, I would of liked either, but the Finucane deal was fraught with danger and I'm sure quite a few of us wouldn't remember that in his year 4, if he wasn't performing?

It sucks, but there are others?

Could you give me a list of 10 others who are equal ability who will help us improve greatly


at any cost?

That are off contract and available for the 2022 season .....

 

[Newtown]

One thing about Finucane is that I think he is more intelligent than Jai Arrow and half the St. George team.

 

[earl]

We won't be signing Finucane - he's asking for more than the WT are willing to pay and wants a long term deal which is the other sticking point.

So just to be clear we are rejecting him.

Good business plan to move away from TPJ to chase our priority and then reject the priority signing and aim for no one.

In the words of the A-team, "I love it when a plan comes together".

Who said Finucane was out priority signing?

TBH, I would of liked either, but the Finucane deal was fraught with danger and I'm sure quite a few of us wouldn't remember that in his year 4, if he wasn't performing?

It sucks, but there are others?

Could you give me a list of 10 others who are equal ability who will help us improve greatly

I doubt he will improve us greatly. If he does then we should have a shot. I like him as a player. He'd be great here.

I agree ...but you have to start somewhere ...I mentioned a few pages ago what sole forward could you bring here that does turn us around ???Answer : no one

I reckon a top 5 player could turn us around. Turbo would make us a quality team. Latrell would make a difference. Tedesco would help. Maybe Brandan Smith, Munster or RTS would turn us around.

This is the problem with marquee signings. There are so few that are worth top dollar. We've gotten it wrong every time. It's really hard. I'd rather just keep having shots at gun juniors. We will get a star or a couple of stars at some point. If we manage them and our cap correctly we could be a good team.

 

[851]

He was just on channel 10 news, said he wants something sorted in the next fortnight

 

[851]

One thing about Finucane is that I think he is more intelligent than Jai Arrow and half the St. George team.

It would appear so

 

[happy_tiger]

We won't be signing Finucane - he's asking for more than the WT are willing to pay and wants a long term deal which is the other sticking point.

So just to be clear we are rejecting him.

Good business plan to move away from TPJ to chase our priority and then reject the priority signing and aim for no one.

In the words of the A-team, "I love it when a plan comes together".

Who said Finucane was out priority signing?

TBH, I would of liked either, but the Finucane deal was fraught with danger and I'm sure quite a few of us wouldn't remember that in his year 4, if he wasn't performing?

It sucks, but there are others?

Could you give me a list of 10 others who are equal ability who will help us improve greatly

I doubt he will improve us greatly. If he does then we should have a shot. I like him as a player. He'd be great here.

I agree ...but you have to start somewhere ...I mentioned a few pages ago what sole forward could you bring here that does turn us around ???Answer : no one

I reckon a top 5 player could turn us around. Turbo would make us a quality team. Latrell would make a difference. Tedesco would help. Maybe Brandan Smith, Munster or RTS would turn us around.

This is the problem with marquee signings. There are so few that are worth top dollar. We've gotten it wrong every time. It's really hard. I'd rather just keep having shots at gun juniors. We will get a star or a couple of stars at some point. If we manage them and our cap correctly we could be a good team.

A back won't turn us around ...cmon mate ...you know better than that ......we probably need a Top 50 backrower , Top 50 13 , Top 50 6 , Top 50 3/4 ...just to guarantee a Finals side

 

[earl]

We won't be signing Finucane - he's asking for more than the WT are willing to pay and wants a long term deal which is the other sticking point.

So just to be clear we are rejecting him.

Good business plan to move away from TPJ to chase our priority and then reject the priority signing and aim for no one.

In the words of the A-team, "I love it when a plan comes together".

Who said Finucane was out priority signing?

TBH, I would of liked either, but the Finucane deal was fraught with danger and I'm sure quite a few of us wouldn't remember that in his year 4, if he wasn't performing?

It sucks, but there are others?

Could you give me a list of 10 others who are equal ability who will help us improve greatly

I doubt he will improve us greatly. If he does then we should have a shot. I like him as a player. He'd be great here.

I agree ...but you have to start somewhere ...I mentioned a few pages ago what sole forward could you bring here that does turn us around ???Answer : no one

I reckon a top 5 player could turn us around. Turbo would make us a quality team. Latrell would make a difference. Tedesco would help. Maybe Brandan Smith, Munster or RTS would turn us around.

This is the problem with marquee signings. There are so few that are worth top dollar. We've gotten it wrong every time. It's really hard. I'd rather just keep having shots at gun juniors. We will get a star or a couple of stars at some point. If we manage them and our cap correctly we could be a good team.

A back won't turn us around ...cmon mate ...you know better than that ......we probably need a Top 50 backrower , Top 50 13 , Top 50 6 , Top 50 3/4 ...just to guarantee a Finals side

The game has changed. It's players like Latrell and Turbo who make the biggest difference. I get what you are stating. We are still getting smashed in the forwards. It's killing us.

 

[cochise]

Cameron Smith says Finucane would be a “perfect example” to lead the Wests Tigers:

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2021/07/08/smith-says-finucane-would-be-a-perfect-example-to-lead-the-wests-tigers/

NRL great Cameron Smith believes his former Storm teammate Dale Finucane would be the perfect leader for the Wests Tigers to put them on the “right track”.

Finucane boasts an impressive career with Melbourne, playing in six grand finals and winning two premierships, many question why on earth a player of his calibre would even consider heading to Leichhardt during such a tough period.

Cameron Smith believes the answer is because the Storm captain could lead as the “perfect example” for the Tigers.

“Talking along the lines of the Tigers fans craving a guy to lead them, perfect example Dale Finucane,” said Smith on SEN 1170 Breakfast.

“He is a man that lives and breathes rugby league,

“And is someone that you would just chuck into that system and go, 'Hey boys follow this man right now, do what he does every day and we’ll be on the right track'.”

Finucane is off contract at the end of the 2021 season and a move to the struggling Tigers may not be too far fetched.

The great Cammy's comments belong in the Finucane thread..

Cooper has said it ...Cam has said it ...yet the nuffies in charge of the WT's can't see it

If that isn't proof to any person that our recruitment and retention that we are so off the mark in these areas .....nothing will .....

Buy a touching plaque ...bury us now please .....RIP WT's 1999 -2025 ......

So we should pay $900k+ for 3-4years?

 

[mike]

Cameron Smith says Finucane would be a “perfect example” to lead the Wests Tigers:

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2021/07/08/smith-says-finucane-would-be-a-perfect-example-to-lead-the-wests-tigers/

NRL great Cameron Smith believes his former Storm teammate Dale Finucane would be the perfect leader for the Wests Tigers to put them on the “right track”.

Finucane boasts an impressive career with Melbourne, playing in six grand finals and winning two premierships, many question why on earth a player of his calibre would even consider heading to Leichhardt during such a tough period.

Cameron Smith believes the answer is because the Storm captain could lead as the “perfect example” for the Tigers.

“Talking along the lines of the Tigers fans craving a guy to lead them, perfect example Dale Finucane,” said Smith on SEN 1170 Breakfast.

“He is a man that lives and breathes rugby league,

“And is someone that you would just chuck into that system and go, 'Hey boys follow this man right now, do what he does every day and we’ll be on the right track'.”

Finucane is off contract at the end of the 2021 season and a move to the struggling Tigers may not be too far fetched.

The great Cammy's comments belong in the Finucane thread..

Cooper has said it ...Cam has said it ...yet the nuffies in charge of the WT's can't see it

If that isn't proof to any person that our recruitment and retention that we are so off the mark in these areas .....nothing will .....

Buy a touching plaque ...bury us now please .....RIP WT's 1999 -2025 ......

So we should pay $900k+ for 3-4years?

Hell no.

 

[JC99]

Cameron Smith says Finucane would be a “perfect example” to lead the Wests Tigers:

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2021/07/08/smith-says-finucane-would-be-a-perfect-example-to-lead-the-wests-tigers/

NRL great Cameron Smith believes his former Storm teammate Dale Finucane would be the perfect leader for the Wests Tigers to put them on the “right track”.

Finucane boasts an impressive career with Melbourne, playing in six grand finals and winning two premierships, many question why on earth a player of his calibre would even consider heading to Leichhardt during such a tough period.

Cameron Smith believes the answer is because the Storm captain could lead as the “perfect example” for the Tigers.

“Talking along the lines of the Tigers fans craving a guy to lead them, perfect example Dale Finucane,” said Smith on SEN 1170 Breakfast.

“He is a man that lives and breathes rugby league,

“And is someone that you would just chuck into that system and go, 'Hey boys follow this man right now, do what he does every day and we’ll be on the right track'.”

Finucane is off contract at the end of the 2021 season and a move to the struggling Tigers may not be too far fetched.

The great Cammy's comments belong in the Finucane thread..

Cooper has said it ...Cam has said it ...yet the nuffies in charge of the WT's can't see it

If that isn't proof to any person that our recruitment and retention that we are so off the mark in these areas .....nothing will .....

Buy a touching plaque ...bury us now please .....RIP WT's 1999 -2025 ......

So we should pay $900k+ for 3-4years?

His price gets higher every day lol