David Nofoaluma #164

[BAGNF05]

No great loss if he goes, the $500k could be better spent imo.

But top line players are off us Avo, losing Nofa is just another example if it happens. no use having a truck load of money/space when your image with the best players is mud.

I don't believe Nofa leaving would be a sign top line players are off us. It would be a sign he thought he was worth more than the club was willing to pay.

It ain’t just money mate, you’ve said it yourself it’s about winning footy games.

That is not why Nofa would be leaving though, he actually has an overinflated belief in his ability. He believes he is worth more than we are offering and also is of the the belief he should have made the SOO team based on his form.

I would argue that if Nofa goes to a Souths team that we know uses its wingers well in attack, he’d be playing well in a top 4 side and would in all likelihood be picked for rep duties. He is probably right, his star would rise at those clubs. Look, I love WT but if we’re honest about our plot, we’re still miles off where we want to be.

His defence is not strong enough to play SOO.

Put him in a side that’s not constantly under the pump because if it’s own ineptitude and see how he does.

He make poor decisions in defense, yes he is more likely to make them under pressure, but the pressure he will face in origin is greater than anything he faced. He would be a disaster at origin, very similar to the disaster Merrett was at that level.

I doubt that he ever gets picked for Origin no matter who he plays for.

We will see, I haven’t seen him play with an origin level centre or second rower before, I’m sure you know defence on the edges is about teamwork.

Of course it is, but on to many occasions I have seen him make poor decisions regardless of what people inside him have done. He often ends up between players in no mans land when the centre is covered. He also goes for the intercept far too often.

Let’s be honest, teams still hide their weaker defenders on the wings. I’ve also cursed him plenty of times but I was cursing the big unit from the Roosters in origin too. I don’t think Nof is perfect but he’s one of the guys on our side who often outperforms his opponent. In my mind we can’t keep letting these ones leave.

Don't have much of a choice if they are asking well above their value.

But the teams taking these guys up on their offers are better than us. So I come back to the burning question, what’s wrong with us?

 

[cochise]

No great loss if he goes, the $500k could be better spent imo.

But top line players are off us Avo, losing Nofa is just another example if it happens. no use having a truck load of money/space when your image with the best players is mud.

I don't believe Nofa leaving would be a sign top line players are off us. It would be a sign he thought he was worth more than the club was willing to pay.

It ain’t just money mate, you’ve said it yourself it’s about winning footy games.

That is not why Nofa would be leaving though, he actually has an overinflated belief in his ability. He believes he is worth more than we are offering and also is of the the belief he should have made the SOO team based on his form.

I would argue that if Nofa goes to a Souths team that we know uses its wingers well in attack, he’d be playing well in a top 4 side and would in all likelihood be picked for rep duties. He is probably right, his star would rise at those clubs. Look, I love WT but if we’re honest about our plot, we’re still miles off where we want to be.

His defence is not strong enough to play SOO.

Put him in a side that’s not constantly under the pump because if it’s own ineptitude and see how he does.

He make poor decisions in defense, yes he is more likely to make them under pressure, but the pressure he will face in origin is greater than anything he faced. He would be a disaster at origin, very similar to the disaster Merrett was at that level.

I doubt that he ever gets picked for Origin no matter who he plays for.

We will see, I haven’t seen him play with an origin level centre or second rower before, I’m sure you know defence on the edges is about teamwork.

Of course it is, but on to many occasions I have seen him make poor decisions regardless of what people inside him have done. He often ends up between players in no mans land when the centre is covered. He also goes for the intercept far too often.

Let’s be honest, teams still hide their weaker defenders on the wings. I’ve also cursed him plenty of times but I was cursing the big unit from the Roosters in origin too. I don’t think Nof is perfect but he’s one of the guys on our side who often outperforms his opponent. In my mind we can’t keep letting these ones leave.

Don't have much of a choice if they are asking well above their value.

But the teams taking these guys up on their offers are better than us. So I come back to the burning question, what’s wrong with us?

They are willing to overpay and we are not.

 

[JC99]

No great loss if he goes, the $500k could be better spent imo.

But top line players are off us Avo, losing Nofa is just another example if it happens. no use having a truck load of money/space when your image with the best players is mud.

I don't believe Nofa leaving would be a sign top line players are off us. It would be a sign he thought he was worth more than the club was willing to pay.

It ain’t just money mate, you’ve said it yourself it’s about winning footy games.

That is not why Nofa would be leaving though, he actually has an overinflated belief in his ability. He believes he is worth more than we are offering and also is of the the belief he should have made the SOO team based on his form.

I would argue that if Nofa goes to a Souths team that we know uses its wingers well in attack, he’d be playing well in a top 4 side and would in all likelihood be picked for rep duties. He is probably right, his star would rise at those clubs. Look, I love WT but if we’re honest about our plot, we’re still miles off where we want to be.

His defence is not strong enough to play SOO.

Put him in a side that’s not constantly under the pump because if it’s own ineptitude and see how he does.

He make poor decisions in defense, yes he is more likely to make them under pressure, but the pressure he will face in origin is greater than anything he faced. He would be a disaster at origin, very similar to the disaster Merrett was at that level.

I doubt that he ever gets picked for Origin no matter who he plays for.

We will see, I haven’t seen him play with an origin level centre or second rower before, I’m sure you know defence on the edges is about teamwork.

Of course it is, but on to many occasions I have seen him make poor decisions regardless of what people inside him have done. He often ends up between players in no mans land when the centre is covered. He also goes for the intercept far too often.

Let’s be honest, teams still hide their weaker defenders on the wings. I’ve also cursed him plenty of times but I was cursing the big unit from the Roosters in origin too. I don’t think Nof is perfect but he’s one of the guys on our side who often outperforms his opponent. In my mind we can’t keep letting these ones leave.

Don't have much of a choice if they are asking well above their value.

But the teams taking these guys up on their offers are better than us. So I come back to the burning question, what’s wrong with us?

They are willing to overpay and we are not.

I don’t think we can say it’s just about money. Obviously it’s a big factor, but he’s been pretty vocal about wanting to make finals and making rep teams and a team like Souths or eels would provide that to him, I dare say that will be part of his thought process too.

 

[cochise]

No great loss if he goes, the $500k could be better spent imo.

But top line players are off us Avo, losing Nofa is just another example if it happens. no use having a truck load of money/space when your image with the best players is mud.

I don't believe Nofa leaving would be a sign top line players are off us. It would be a sign he thought he was worth more than the club was willing to pay.

It ain’t just money mate, you’ve said it yourself it’s about winning footy games.

That is not why Nofa would be leaving though, he actually has an overinflated belief in his ability. He believes he is worth more than we are offering and also is of the the belief he should have made the SOO team based on his form.

I would argue that if Nofa goes to a Souths team that we know uses its wingers well in attack, he’d be playing well in a top 4 side and would in all likelihood be picked for rep duties. He is probably right, his star would rise at those clubs. Look, I love WT but if we’re honest about our plot, we’re still miles off where we want to be.

His defence is not strong enough to play SOO.

Put him in a side that’s not constantly under the pump because if it’s own ineptitude and see how he does.

He make poor decisions in defense, yes he is more likely to make them under pressure, but the pressure he will face in origin is greater than anything he faced. He would be a disaster at origin, very similar to the disaster Merrett was at that level.

I doubt that he ever gets picked for Origin no matter who he plays for.

We will see, I haven’t seen him play with an origin level centre or second rower before, I’m sure you know defence on the edges is about teamwork.

Of course it is, but on to many occasions I have seen him make poor decisions regardless of what people inside him have done. He often ends up between players in no mans land when the centre is covered. He also goes for the intercept far too often.

Let’s be honest, teams still hide their weaker defenders on the wings. I’ve also cursed him plenty of times but I was cursing the big unit from the Roosters in origin too. I don’t think Nof is perfect but he’s one of the guys on our side who often outperforms his opponent. In my mind we can’t keep letting these ones leave.

Don't have much of a choice if they are asking well above their value.

But the teams taking these guys up on their offers are better than us. So I come back to the burning question, what’s wrong with us?

They are willing to overpay and we are not.

I don’t think we can say it’s just about money. Obviously it’s a big factor, but he’s been pretty vocal about wanting to make finals and making rep teams and a team like Souths or eels would provide that to him, I dare say that will be part of his thought process too.

You didn't read my other posts?

 

[Rowdy12]

When a try is scored in the corner due an overlap, it’s very rarely solely the wingers fault, despite what a number of our fans seem to think

 

[JC99]

No great loss if he goes, the $500k could be better spent imo.

But top line players are off us Avo, losing Nofa is just another example if it happens. no use having a truck load of money/space when your image with the best players is mud.

I don't believe Nofa leaving would be a sign top line players are off us. It would be a sign he thought he was worth more than the club was willing to pay.

It ain’t just money mate, you’ve said it yourself it’s about winning footy games.

That is not why Nofa would be leaving though, he actually has an overinflated belief in his ability. He believes he is worth more than we are offering and also is of the the belief he should have made the SOO team based on his form.

I would argue that if Nofa goes to a Souths team that we know uses its wingers well in attack, he’d be playing well in a top 4 side and would in all likelihood be picked for rep duties. He is probably right, his star would rise at those clubs. Look, I love WT but if we’re honest about our plot, we’re still miles off where we want to be.

His defence is not strong enough to play SOO.

Put him in a side that’s not constantly under the pump because if it’s own ineptitude and see how he does.

He make poor decisions in defense, yes he is more likely to make them under pressure, but the pressure he will face in origin is greater than anything he faced. He would be a disaster at origin, very similar to the disaster Merrett was at that level.

I doubt that he ever gets picked for Origin no matter who he plays for.

We will see, I haven’t seen him play with an origin level centre or second rower before, I’m sure you know defence on the edges is about teamwork.

Of course it is, but on to many occasions I have seen him make poor decisions regardless of what people inside him have done. He often ends up between players in no mans land when the centre is covered. He also goes for the intercept far too often.

Let’s be honest, teams still hide their weaker defenders on the wings. I’ve also cursed him plenty of times but I was cursing the big unit from the Roosters in origin too. I don’t think Nof is perfect but he’s one of the guys on our side who often outperforms his opponent. In my mind we can’t keep letting these ones leave.

Don't have much of a choice if they are asking well above their value.

But the teams taking these guys up on their offers are better than us. So I come back to the burning question, what’s wrong with us?

They are willing to overpay and we are not.

I don’t think we can say it’s just about money. Obviously it’s a big factor, but he’s been pretty vocal about wanting to make finals and making rep teams and a team like Souths or eels would provide that to him, I dare say that will be part of his thought process too.

You didn't read my other posts?

I know he’s after better money, and I’ve got the feeling he’s sensed that he thinks he’s a better player than he is too, but he thinks he deserves to be playing finals and making rep teams too. It’s all part of his decision making, not one or the other I feel.

 

[TigerWest]

No great loss if he goes, the $500k could be better spent imo.

But top line players are off us Avo, losing Nofa is just another example if it happens. no use having a truck load of money/space when your image with the best players is mud.

I don't believe Nofa leaving would be a sign top line players are off us. It would be a sign he thought he was worth more than the club was willing to pay.

It ain’t just money mate, you’ve said it yourself it’s about winning footy games.

That is not why Nofa would be leaving though, he actually has an overinflated belief in his ability. He believes he is worth more than we are offering and also is of the the belief he should have made the SOO team based on his form.

I would argue that if Nofa goes to a Souths team that we know uses its wingers well in attack, he’d be playing well in a top 4 side and would in all likelihood be picked for rep duties. He is probably right, his star would rise at those clubs. Look, I love WT but if we’re honest about our plot, we’re still miles off where we want to be.

His defence is not strong enough to play SOO.

Put him in a side that’s not constantly under the pump because if it’s own ineptitude and see how he does.

He make poor decisions in defense, yes he is more likely to make them under pressure, but the pressure he will face in origin is greater than anything he faced. He would be a disaster at origin, very similar to the disaster Merrett was at that level.

I doubt that he ever gets picked for Origin no matter who he plays for.

We will see, I haven’t seen him play with an origin level centre or second rower before, I’m sure you know defence on the edges is about teamwork.

Of course it is, but on to many occasions I have seen him make poor decisions regardless of what people inside him have done. He often ends up between players in no mans land when the centre is covered. He also goes for the intercept far too often.

Let’s be honest, teams still hide their weaker defenders on the wings. I’ve also cursed him plenty of times but I was cursing the big unit from the Roosters in origin too. I don’t think Nof is perfect but he’s one of the guys on our side who often outperforms his opponent. In my mind we can’t keep letting these ones leave.

Don't have much of a choice if they are asking well above their value.

But the teams taking these guys up on their offers are better than us. So I come back to the burning question, what’s wrong with us?

They are willing to overpay and we are not.

I don’t think we can say it’s just about money. Obviously it’s a big factor, but he’s been pretty vocal about wanting to make finals and making rep teams and a team like Souths or eels would provide that to him, I dare say that will be part of his thought process too.

Sorry but just because he is at any club won’t get him rep sides unless he deserves it.

No team is guaranteed a top 8 spot and if he looks at our side he could be part of our drought breaking team?

 

[BAGNF05]

No great loss if he goes, the $500k could be better spent imo.

But top line players are off us Avo, losing Nofa is just another example if it happens. no use having a truck load of money/space when your image with the best players is mud.

I don't believe Nofa leaving would be a sign top line players are off us. It would be a sign he thought he was worth more than the club was willing to pay.

It ain’t just money mate, you’ve said it yourself it’s about winning footy games.

That is not why Nofa would be leaving though, he actually has an overinflated belief in his ability. He believes he is worth more than we are offering and also is of the the belief he should have made the SOO team based on his form.

I would argue that if Nofa goes to a Souths team that we know uses its wingers well in attack, he’d be playing well in a top 4 side and would in all likelihood be picked for rep duties. He is probably right, his star would rise at those clubs. Look, I love WT but if we’re honest about our plot, we’re still miles off where we want to be.

His defence is not strong enough to play SOO.

Put him in a side that’s not constantly under the pump because if it’s own ineptitude and see how he does.

He make poor decisions in defense, yes he is more likely to make them under pressure, but the pressure he will face in origin is greater than anything he faced. He would be a disaster at origin, very similar to the disaster Merrett was at that level.

I doubt that he ever gets picked for Origin no matter who he plays for.

We will see, I haven’t seen him play with an origin level centre or second rower before, I’m sure you know defence on the edges is about teamwork.

Of course it is, but on to many occasions I have seen him make poor decisions regardless of what people inside him have done. He often ends up between players in no mans land when the centre is covered. He also goes for the intercept far too often.

Let’s be honest, teams still hide their weaker defenders on the wings. I’ve also cursed him plenty of times but I was cursing the big unit from the Roosters in origin too. I don’t think Nof is perfect but he’s one of the guys on our side who often outperforms his opponent. In my mind we can’t keep letting these ones leave.

Don't have much of a choice if they are asking well above their value.

But the teams taking these guys up on their offers are better than us. So I come back to the burning question, what’s wrong with us?

They are willing to overpay and we are not.

I don’t think we can say it’s just about money. Obviously it’s a big factor, but he’s been pretty vocal about wanting to make finals and making rep teams and a team like Souths or eels would provide that to him, I dare say that will be part of his thought process too.

Yep. We are currently second favourites for the wooden spoon, that is the perception of our team. From the public, players, player managers etc. that is what we need to change if we want to improve our recruitment and retention.

 

[JC99]

No great loss if he goes, the $500k could be better spent imo.

But top line players are off us Avo, losing Nofa is just another example if it happens. no use having a truck load of money/space when your image with the best players is mud.

I don't believe Nofa leaving would be a sign top line players are off us. It would be a sign he thought he was worth more than the club was willing to pay.

It ain’t just money mate, you’ve said it yourself it’s about winning footy games.

That is not why Nofa would be leaving though, he actually has an overinflated belief in his ability. He believes he is worth more than we are offering and also is of the the belief he should have made the SOO team based on his form.

I would argue that if Nofa goes to a Souths team that we know uses its wingers well in attack, he’d be playing well in a top 4 side and would in all likelihood be picked for rep duties. He is probably right, his star would rise at those clubs. Look, I love WT but if we’re honest about our plot, we’re still miles off where we want to be.

His defence is not strong enough to play SOO.

Put him in a side that’s not constantly under the pump because if it’s own ineptitude and see how he does.

He make poor decisions in defense, yes he is more likely to make them under pressure, but the pressure he will face in origin is greater than anything he faced. He would be a disaster at origin, very similar to the disaster Merrett was at that level.

I doubt that he ever gets picked for Origin no matter who he plays for.

We will see, I haven’t seen him play with an origin level centre or second rower before, I’m sure you know defence on the edges is about teamwork.

Of course it is, but on to many occasions I have seen him make poor decisions regardless of what people inside him have done. He often ends up between players in no mans land when the centre is covered. He also goes for the intercept far too often.

Let’s be honest, teams still hide their weaker defenders on the wings. I’ve also cursed him plenty of times but I was cursing the big unit from the Roosters in origin too. I don’t think Nof is perfect but he’s one of the guys on our side who often outperforms his opponent. In my mind we can’t keep letting these ones leave.

Don't have much of a choice if they are asking well above their value.

But the teams taking these guys up on their offers are better than us. So I come back to the burning question, what’s wrong with us?

They are willing to overpay and we are not.

I don’t think we can say it’s just about money. Obviously it’s a big factor, but he’s been pretty vocal about wanting to make finals and making rep teams and a team like Souths or eels would provide that to him, I dare say that will be part of his thought process too.

Sorry but just because he is at any club won’t get him rep sides unless he deserves it.

No team is guaranteed a top 8 spot and if he looks at our side he could be part of our drought breaking team?

Look, you’re not wrong he could go to Souths and win a wooden spoon for all we know, but both teams that have been mentioned as possible destinations are teams that make finals pretty often and have players picked for origin. Freddy likes picking players from winning teams.

If Nofa wants finals that bad it’s a much better choice going to Souths compared to staying with us unfortunately. He seems to think he’s not at part fault for us not making finals throughout the years for some reason

 

[cochise]

No great loss if he goes, the $500k could be better spent imo.

But top line players are off us Avo, losing Nofa is just another example if it happens. no use having a truck load of money/space when your image with the best players is mud.

I don't believe Nofa leaving would be a sign top line players are off us. It would be a sign he thought he was worth more than the club was willing to pay.

It ain’t just money mate, you’ve said it yourself it’s about winning footy games.

That is not why Nofa would be leaving though, he actually has an overinflated belief in his ability. He believes he is worth more than we are offering and also is of the the belief he should have made the SOO team based on his form.

I would argue that if Nofa goes to a Souths team that we know uses its wingers well in attack, he’d be playing well in a top 4 side and would in all likelihood be picked for rep duties. He is probably right, his star would rise at those clubs. Look, I love WT but if we’re honest about our plot, we’re still miles off where we want to be.

His defence is not strong enough to play SOO.

Put him in a side that’s not constantly under the pump because if it’s own ineptitude and see how he does.

He make poor decisions in defense, yes he is more likely to make them under pressure, but the pressure he will face in origin is greater than anything he faced. He would be a disaster at origin, very similar to the disaster Merrett was at that level.

I doubt that he ever gets picked for Origin no matter who he plays for.

We will see, I haven’t seen him play with an origin level centre or second rower before, I’m sure you know defence on the edges is about teamwork.

Of course it is, but on to many occasions I have seen him make poor decisions regardless of what people inside him have done. He often ends up between players in no mans land when the centre is covered. He also goes for the intercept far too often.

Let’s be honest, teams still hide their weaker defenders on the wings. I’ve also cursed him plenty of times but I was cursing the big unit from the Roosters in origin too. I don’t think Nof is perfect but he’s one of the guys on our side who often outperforms his opponent. In my mind we can’t keep letting these ones leave.

Don't have much of a choice if they are asking well above their value.

But the teams taking these guys up on their offers are better than us. So I come back to the burning question, what’s wrong with us?

They are willing to overpay and we are not.

I don’t think we can say it’s just about money. Obviously it’s a big factor, but he’s been pretty vocal about wanting to make finals and making rep teams and a team like Souths or eels would provide that to him, I dare say that will be part of his thought process too.

You didn't read my other posts?

I know he’s after better money, and I’ve got the feeling he’s sensed that he thinks he’s a better player than he is too, but he thinks he deserves to be playing finals and making rep teams too. It’s all part of his decision making, not one or the other I feel.

Which is exactly what I said lol. He has an overinflated opinion of his ability, this is being shown through his overpricing himself, the fact that he believes he deserved to play origin in 2020 and his failure to accept responsibility for his part in out failure to make the finals.

 

[JC99]

No great loss if he goes, the $500k could be better spent imo.

But top line players are off us Avo, losing Nofa is just another example if it happens. no use having a truck load of money/space when your image with the best players is mud.

I don't believe Nofa leaving would be a sign top line players are off us. It would be a sign he thought he was worth more than the club was willing to pay.

It ain’t just money mate, you’ve said it yourself it’s about winning footy games.

That is not why Nofa would be leaving though, he actually has an overinflated belief in his ability. He believes he is worth more than we are offering and also is of the the belief he should have made the SOO team based on his form.

I would argue that if Nofa goes to a Souths team that we know uses its wingers well in attack, he’d be playing well in a top 4 side and would in all likelihood be picked for rep duties. He is probably right, his star would rise at those clubs. Look, I love WT but if we’re honest about our plot, we’re still miles off where we want to be.

His defence is not strong enough to play SOO.

Put him in a side that’s not constantly under the pump because if it’s own ineptitude and see how he does.

He make poor decisions in defense, yes he is more likely to make them under pressure, but the pressure he will face in origin is greater than anything he faced. He would be a disaster at origin, very similar to the disaster Merrett was at that level.

I doubt that he ever gets picked for Origin no matter who he plays for.

We will see, I haven’t seen him play with an origin level centre or second rower before, I’m sure you know defence on the edges is about teamwork.

Of course it is, but on to many occasions I have seen him make poor decisions regardless of what people inside him have done. He often ends up between players in no mans land when the centre is covered. He also goes for the intercept far too often.

Let’s be honest, teams still hide their weaker defenders on the wings. I’ve also cursed him plenty of times but I was cursing the big unit from the Roosters in origin too. I don’t think Nof is perfect but he’s one of the guys on our side who often outperforms his opponent. In my mind we can’t keep letting these ones leave.

Don't have much of a choice if they are asking well above their value.

But the teams taking these guys up on their offers are better than us. So I come back to the burning question, what’s wrong with us?

They are willing to overpay and we are not.

I don’t think we can say it’s just about money. Obviously it’s a big factor, but he’s been pretty vocal about wanting to make finals and making rep teams and a team like Souths or eels would provide that to him, I dare say that will be part of his thought process too.

Yep. We are currently second favourites for the wooden spoon, that is the perception of our team. From the public, players, player managers etc. that is what we need to change if we want to improve our recruitment and retention.

The off field stuff has been a big part of it too, but we’ve got stability there now so it’s all about results on the field now

 

[JC99]

No great loss if he goes, the $500k could be better spent imo.

But top line players are off us Avo, losing Nofa is just another example if it happens. no use having a truck load of money/space when your image with the best players is mud.

I don't believe Nofa leaving would be a sign top line players are off us. It would be a sign he thought he was worth more than the club was willing to pay.

It ain’t just money mate, you’ve said it yourself it’s about winning footy games.

That is not why Nofa would be leaving though, he actually has an overinflated belief in his ability. He believes he is worth more than we are offering and also is of the the belief he should have made the SOO team based on his form.

I would argue that if Nofa goes to a Souths team that we know uses its wingers well in attack, he’d be playing well in a top 4 side and would in all likelihood be picked for rep duties. He is probably right, his star would rise at those clubs. Look, I love WT but if we’re honest about our plot, we’re still miles off where we want to be.

His defence is not strong enough to play SOO.

Put him in a side that’s not constantly under the pump because if it’s own ineptitude and see how he does.

He make poor decisions in defense, yes he is more likely to make them under pressure, but the pressure he will face in origin is greater than anything he faced. He would be a disaster at origin, very similar to the disaster Merrett was at that level.

I doubt that he ever gets picked for Origin no matter who he plays for.

We will see, I haven’t seen him play with an origin level centre or second rower before, I’m sure you know defence on the edges is about teamwork.

Of course it is, but on to many occasions I have seen him make poor decisions regardless of what people inside him have done. He often ends up between players in no mans land when the centre is covered. He also goes for the intercept far too often.

Let’s be honest, teams still hide their weaker defenders on the wings. I’ve also cursed him plenty of times but I was cursing the big unit from the Roosters in origin too. I don’t think Nof is perfect but he’s one of the guys on our side who often outperforms his opponent. In my mind we can’t keep letting these ones leave.

Don't have much of a choice if they are asking well above their value.

But the teams taking these guys up on their offers are better than us. So I come back to the burning question, what’s wrong with us?

They are willing to overpay and we are not.

I don’t think we can say it’s just about money. Obviously it’s a big factor, but he’s been pretty vocal about wanting to make finals and making rep teams and a team like Souths or eels would provide that to him, I dare say that will be part of his thought process too.

You didn't read my other posts?

I know he’s after better money, and I’ve got the feeling he’s sensed that he thinks he’s a better player than he is too, but he thinks he deserves to be playing finals and making rep teams too. It’s all part of his decision making, not one or the other I feel.

Which is exactly what I said lol. He has an overinflated opinion of his ability, this is being shown through his overpricing himself, the fact that he believes he deserved to play origin in 2020 and his failure to accept responsibility for his part in out failure to make the finals.

Fair enough haha, I only saw your posts saying it’s about the money. He’s definitely got a big head - winning dally m winger of the year hasn’t helped. He’s a good footballer but he’s not that level

 

[cochise]

No great loss if he goes, the $500k could be better spent imo.

But top line players are off us Avo, losing Nofa is just another example if it happens. no use having a truck load of money/space when your image with the best players is mud.

I don't believe Nofa leaving would be a sign top line players are off us. It would be a sign he thought he was worth more than the club was willing to pay.

It ain’t just money mate, you’ve said it yourself it’s about winning footy games.

That is not why Nofa would be leaving though, he actually has an overinflated belief in his ability. He believes he is worth more than we are offering and also is of the the belief he should have made the SOO team based on his form.

I would argue that if Nofa goes to a Souths team that we know uses its wingers well in attack, he’d be playing well in a top 4 side and would in all likelihood be picked for rep duties. He is probably right, his star would rise at those clubs. Look, I love WT but if we’re honest about our plot, we’re still miles off where we want to be.

His defence is not strong enough to play SOO.

Put him in a side that’s not constantly under the pump because if it’s own ineptitude and see how he does.

He make poor decisions in defense, yes he is more likely to make them under pressure, but the pressure he will face in origin is greater than anything he faced. He would be a disaster at origin, very similar to the disaster Merrett was at that level.

I doubt that he ever gets picked for Origin no matter who he plays for.

We will see, I haven’t seen him play with an origin level centre or second rower before, I’m sure you know defence on the edges is about teamwork.

Of course it is, but on to many occasions I have seen him make poor decisions regardless of what people inside him have done. He often ends up between players in no mans land when the centre is covered. He also goes for the intercept far too often.

Let’s be honest, teams still hide their weaker defenders on the wings. I’ve also cursed him plenty of times but I was cursing the big unit from the Roosters in origin too. I don’t think Nof is perfect but he’s one of the guys on our side who often outperforms his opponent. In my mind we can’t keep letting these ones leave.

Don't have much of a choice if they are asking well above their value.

But the teams taking these guys up on their offers are better than us. So I come back to the burning question, what’s wrong with us?

They are willing to overpay and we are not.

I don’t think we can say it’s just about money. Obviously it’s a big factor, but he’s been pretty vocal about wanting to make finals and making rep teams and a team like Souths or eels would provide that to him, I dare say that will be part of his thought process too.

You didn't read my other posts?

I know he’s after better money, and I’ve got the feeling he’s sensed that he thinks he’s a better player than he is too, but he thinks he deserves to be playing finals and making rep teams too. It’s all part of his decision making, not one or the other I feel.

Which is exactly what I said lol. He has an overinflated opinion of his ability, this is being shown through his overpricing himself, the fact that he believes he deserved to play origin in 2020 and his failure to accept responsibility for his part in out failure to make the finals.

Fair enough haha, I only saw your posts saying it’s about the money. He’s definitely got a big head - winning dally m winger of the year hasn’t helped. He’s a good footballer but he’s not that level

No I agree the other stuff is as big a factor, if not larger, than the $$ issue. He definitely has an overinflated opinion on himself in regards to these issues and for once it seems that that belief is not manager induced.

 

[BAGNF05]

No great loss if he goes, the $500k could be better spent imo.

But top line players are off us Avo, losing Nofa is just another example if it happens. no use having a truck load of money/space when your image with the best players is mud.

I don't believe Nofa leaving would be a sign top line players are off us. It would be a sign he thought he was worth more than the club was willing to pay.

It ain’t just money mate, you’ve said it yourself it’s about winning footy games.

That is not why Nofa would be leaving though, he actually has an overinflated belief in his ability. He believes he is worth more than we are offering and also is of the the belief he should have made the SOO team based on his form.

I would argue that if Nofa goes to a Souths team that we know uses its wingers well in attack, he’d be playing well in a top 4 side and would in all likelihood be picked for rep duties. He is probably right, his star would rise at those clubs. Look, I love WT but if we’re honest about our plot, we’re still miles off where we want to be.

His defence is not strong enough to play SOO.

Put him in a side that’s not constantly under the pump because if it’s own ineptitude and see how he does.

He make poor decisions in defense, yes he is more likely to make them under pressure, but the pressure he will face in origin is greater than anything he faced. He would be a disaster at origin, very similar to the disaster Merrett was at that level.

I doubt that he ever gets picked for Origin no matter who he plays for.

We will see, I haven’t seen him play with an origin level centre or second rower before, I’m sure you know defence on the edges is about teamwork.

Of course it is, but on to many occasions I have seen him make poor decisions regardless of what people inside him have done. He often ends up between players in no mans land when the centre is covered. He also goes for the intercept far too often.

Let’s be honest, teams still hide their weaker defenders on the wings. I’ve also cursed him plenty of times but I was cursing the big unit from the Roosters in origin too. I don’t think Nof is perfect but he’s one of the guys on our side who often outperforms his opponent. In my mind we can’t keep letting these ones leave.

Don't have much of a choice if they are asking well above their value.

But the teams taking these guys up on their offers are better than us. So I come back to the burning question, what’s wrong with us?

They are willing to overpay and we are not.

I don’t think we can say it’s just about money. Obviously it’s a big factor, but he’s been pretty vocal about wanting to make finals and making rep teams and a team like Souths or eels would provide that to him, I dare say that will be part of his thought process too.

Yep. We are currently second favourites for the wooden spoon, that is the perception of our team. From the public, players, player managers etc. that is what we need to change if we want to improve our recruitment and retention.

The off field stuff has been a big part of it too, but we’ve got stability there now so it’s all about results on the field now

True. But are we getting closer to that is the question we are all discussing. I think Noff is an important part of the turn around if it is to happen anytime soon.

 

[Guest]

Nofa is heading into most likely his last contract which he said himself so I understand why it’s dragging on. Probably weighing up his offers to see what’s best for him. We’ve offered around $500k a season for 4 years and I honestly don’t see Souths matching that offer. However when you’re a club like Souths salary cap doesn’t matter. Funnelling money through 3rd parties is so common

WT have not offered him that much.

 

[Cairnstigers]

Well we are now being screwed by one of our own
Manager or not, David still makes to final decision
Pull our offer but make Dave play out the remainder of his contract
Use his money to get Crichton or similar here

 

[BAGNF05]

Well we are now being screwed by one of our own
Manager or not, David still makes to final decision
Pull our offer but make Dave play out the remainder of his contract
Use his money to get Crichton or similar here

The good teams have a better replacement lined up when they lose a good player. Let’s hope the club are onto it.

 

[Guest]

Souths can have him. I'd happily take AlexJohnston in a swap seeing they cut his wages. Young Corey Allen they let go to the Dogs is better too.

Souths are not letting Johnston go.

 

[gallagher]

No great loss if he goes, the $500k could be better spent imo.

But top line players are off us Avo, losing Nofa is just another example if it happens. no use having a truck load of money/space when your image with the best players is mud.

I don't believe Nofa leaving would be a sign top line players are off us. It would be a sign he thought he was worth more than the club was willing to pay.

It ain’t just money mate, you’ve said it yourself it’s about winning footy games.

That is not why Nofa would be leaving though, he actually has an overinflated belief in his ability. He believes he is worth more than we are offering and also is of the the belief he should have made the SOO team based on his form.

I would argue that if Nofa goes to a Souths team that we know uses its wingers well in attack, he’d be playing well in a top 4 side and would in all likelihood be picked for rep duties. He is probably right, his star would rise at those clubs. Look, I love WT but if we’re honest about our plot, we’re still miles off where we want to be.

His defence is not strong enough to play SOO.

Put him in a side that’s not constantly under the pump because if it’s own ineptitude and see how he does.

He make poor decisions in defense, yes he is more likely to make them under pressure, but the pressure he will face in origin is greater than anything he faced. He would be a disaster at origin, very similar to the disaster Merrett was at that level.

I doubt that he ever gets picked for Origin no matter who he plays for.

We will see, I haven’t seen him play with an origin level centre or second rower before, I’m sure you know defence on the edges is about teamwork.

Of course it is, but on to many occasions I have seen him make poor decisions regardless of what people inside him have done. He often ends up between players in no mans land when the centre is covered. He also goes for the intercept far too often.

Let’s be honest, teams still hide their weaker defenders on the wings. I’ve also cursed him plenty of times but I was cursing the big unit from the Roosters in origin too. I don’t think Nof is perfect but he’s one of the guys on our side who often outperforms his opponent. In my mind we can’t keep letting these ones leave.

Don't have much of a choice if they are asking well above their value.

But the teams taking these guys up on their offers are better than us. So I come back to the burning question, what’s wrong with us?

They are willing to overpay and we are not.

I don’t think we can say it’s just about money. Obviously it’s a big factor, but he’s been pretty vocal about wanting to make finals and making rep teams and a team like Souths or eels would provide that to him, I dare say that will be part of his thought process too.

You didn't read my other posts?

I know he’s after better money, and I’ve got the feeling he’s sensed that he thinks he’s a better player than he is too, but he thinks he deserves to be playing finals and making rep teams too. It’s all part of his decision making, not one or the other I feel.

Which is exactly what I said lol. He has an overinflated opinion of his ability, this is being shown through his overpricing himself, the fact that he believes he deserved to play origin in 2020 and his failure to accept responsibility for his part in out failure to make the finals.

Fair enough haha, I only saw your posts saying it’s about the money. He’s definitely got a big head - winning dally m winger of the year hasn’t helped. He’s a good footballer but he’s not that level

No I agree the other stuff is as big a factor, if not larger, than the $$ issue. He definitely has an overinflated opinion on himself in regards to these issues and for once it seems that that belief is not manager induced.

Great to hear we're not budging on our offer.

 

[TheDaBoss]

Will be sad if he goes... a clubman loved by every tigers fan... but we need to move forward as a club