David Nofoaluma #164

[Leck]

I dunno by the time Nofoaluma signs it ill be pushing 800K as the telecrap and foxsports understands..

Just been offered $1.2m

Over 3 years

Before anyone takes it too far, my post was a joke lol

I realised that

Joke or not, I’d be surprised if Nofa stays at WT

 

[cktiger]

James Hooper warning:

Exclusive: South Sydney target Tigers star David Nofoaluma as Corey Allan joins Bulldogs

The Wests Tigers face a fresh fight to retain Dally M winger of the year David Nofoaluma with the South Sydney Rabbitohs poised to make a play to sign the robust speedster for 2022.

Nofoaluma had a breakout 2020 season for the Tigers, scoring 17 tries in 20 NRL matches and collecting the club’s best and fairest Kelly-Barnes Award award.

With Corey Allan switching from South Sydney to Canterbury-Bankstown effective immediately as of Monday, the Bunnies are now eyeing off making a play to lure the Wests Tigers winger for next season.

Queensland State of Origin debutant Allan trained with the Bulldogs on Monday after agreeing to a three-year deal to play under Trent Barrett at Canterbury-Bankstown.

Nofoaluma enjoyed his most consistent season in the NRL last year with Fox Sports Lab numbers confirming the Dally M winger of the year made 112 tackle busts, 19 line breaks and seven try-assists.

His 112 tackle busts ranked 4th in the NRL and the seven try-assists were equal first with NSW Origin flyer Josh Addo-Carr for most try assists from a winger.

Wests Tigers chairman Lee Hagipanetlis enjoys an extremely tight bond with Nofoaluma and is adamant the Tigers will do everything within reason to ensure the local junior remains at Concord.

“I had dinner with David last night where I reaffirmed the club’s commitment about how we want him to be at the Wests Tigers for life,” Hagipantelis said.

“We absolutely want David to be a one club player and he’s told the club this is also his preference.”

The sticking point for Wests Tigers is the length of Nofoaluma’s new contract. The club wants to sign the 27-year-old to a three-year deal until the end of 2024.

But Nofoaluma’s agent Sam Ayoub is pushing for a four-year deal.

The off-contract Tigers winger has been repeatedly linked with a move to the Parramatta Eels to replace Blake Ferguson at the end of this year but this has been strongly refuted.

Both South Sydney and Wests Tigers have also been linked with Panthers grand final winger Josh Mansour.

Mansour has been told by the Panthers he is free to leave to join a rival NRL club.

The Rabbitohs confirmed Allan’s release from the remainder of his contract on Monday.

“His preferred position, and his best position, is fullback and the opportunity to play in that position on a regular basis is not there with us.” Head of football Mark Ellison said in a statement.

“He feels he will have a better opportunity to play fullback at his new club, on an extended and improved deal than that which he had with us,”

“We felt it would be unfair to stand in the way of Corey progressing his career somewhere else, he will always be a Rabbitoh, and we wish him and his partner Teigan all the best for the future. “

It's not about about the terms of the contract, or even the years.

It's about the dollars. Nofa wants to get paid.

So the question is - What is Nofa realistically worth to our or another club?

How do you know ? I’d prefer a little less for 4 years if I knew I was a winger , and it’s definitely a young mans position. Especially when you see how 31 year olds are treated in the nrl . Sauce is exhibit A for this .

His management and PR team have been pretty clear.

He wants more money based on being the 2020 Dally M winger of the year whilst he rolls into a potentially lucrative contract in 2022.

WTs offered him a new contract in late November, but we haven't heard anything since.

I'm going to make a calculated guess that we offered him $500k but he wants more.

Pretty sure we'll all know Nofa's decision by the end of the month.

Wrong.

Ok, why? Backup your statement

He's not being offered that much.

Mate you’ve missed my point, he wants to get paid as much as he can in an open market but we’re going to stick to our guns and pay him what he’s worth.

I personally think he’s worth $400k but I wouldn’t be surprised if we offered $500k and he wants more.

I didn't miss your point at all. You suspect he's been offered 500k - I'm telling you he hasn't.

Good to hear. What did we offer then?

It's clear you need to re-read this thread, particularly last night.

I’ve mentioned a few times in this thread that Nofa won’t be with us in 2022 if not this year.

He wants to get paid and $450-500k is a fair price, but the reality is the Eels or Bunnies will pay more for than us for a Dally M winning winger.

Good - they can have him if he wants more than that.
He’s a winger... and an average one at that.

 

[gallagher]

I dunno by the time Nofoaluma signs it ill be pushing 800K as the telecrap and foxsports understands..

Just been offered $1.2m

Over 3 years

Before anyone takes it too far, my post was a joke lol

I realised that

I'm aware you are but others have already responded to your post as if we were discussing a real offer lol

How much do you think we're offering?

 

[hsvjones]

Nofa is a great club man. Everyday he realises Mbyes on twice his salary. Can’t blame the lad.

As much as Mybe is overpaid (not his fault) he has played SOO and covers a lot of positions and key areas.. Me personally think if Nofo wants over 500k I say let him walk and lose the 1 club status and most likely a career job at the club after footy..

 

[mike]

I dunno by the time Nofoaluma signs it ill be pushing 800K as the telecrap and foxsports understands..

Just been offered $1.2m

Over 3 years

Before anyone takes it too far, my post was a joke lol

I realised that

Joke or not, I’d be surprised if Nofa stays at WT

Wests Tigers can’t make him stay if he doesn’t want to. If he goes, he goes. I’d be slightly disappointed in Nofa if he goes, not the club.

 

[Leck]

I dunno by the time Nofoaluma signs it ill be pushing 800K as the telecrap and foxsports understands..

Just been offered $1.2m

Over 3 years

Before anyone takes it too far, my post was a joke lol

I realised that

Joke or not, I’d be surprised if Nofa stays at WT

Wests Tigers can’t make him stay if he doesn’t want to. If he goes, he goes. I’d be slightly disappointed in Nofa if he goes, not the club.

So what’s he worth to keep him a one club man?

 

[cochise]

I dunno by the time Nofoaluma signs it ill be pushing 800K as the telecrap and foxsports understands..

Just been offered $1.2m

Over 3 years

Before anyone takes it too far, my post was a joke lol

I realised that

Joke or not, I’d be surprised if Nofa stays at WT

Wests Tigers can’t make him stay if he doesn’t want to. If he goes, he goes. I’d be slightly disappointed in Nofa if he goes, not the club.

The club has made what they think is a fair offer and would have been clear on the reasons for that offer. You are right it is now up to him if he wants to stay.

 

[JC99]

If teams above us on the ladder are willing to pay him good money, maybe we should take that as a hint.

Exactly. Starting to doubt WT concept of good value. I hope we’re not just benchmarking based on media hearsay. What’s Teddy’s worth for example? Is it a million dollars like he’s on or are the Rorters getting twice that? Jake Turbo is another, don’t care how much they’re paying him, he’s giving them good value. The real trick is picking the guys who will go out and play the lights out. Then you get a deal done.

People are scarred because whoever we’ve paid overs for hasn’t worked out. It’s fine to pay big money for players as long as they’re actually worth it. I like the fact we won’t pay overs for players, but it doesn’t help when we’re trying to sign big name players. Understand their approach though there’s a fine line there

 

[BAGNF05]

If teams above us on the ladder are willing to pay him good money, maybe we should take that as a hint.

Exactly. Starting to doubt WT concept of good value. I hope we’re not just benchmarking based on media hearsay. What’s Teddy’s worth for example? Is it a million dollars like he’s on or are the Rorters getting twice that? Jake Turbo is another, don’t care how much they’re paying him, he’s giving them good value. The real trick is picking the guys who will go out and play the lights out. Then you get a deal done.

People are scarred because whoever we’ve paid overs for hasn’t worked out. It’s fine to pay big money for players as long as they’re actually worth it. I like the fact we won’t pay overs for players, but it doesn’t help when we’re trying to sign big name players. Understand their approach though there’s a fine line there

I agree. So now we have a confidence issue and a brand issue. Makes it hard to compete.

 

[mike]

I dunno by the time Nofoaluma signs it ill be pushing 800K as the telecrap and foxsports understands..

Just been offered $1.2m

Over 3 years

Before anyone takes it too far, my post was a joke lol

I realised that

Joke or not, I’d be surprised if Nofa stays at WT

Wests Tigers can’t make him stay if he doesn’t want to. If he goes, he goes. I’d be slightly disappointed in Nofa if he goes, not the club.

So what’s he worth to keep him a one club man?

That’s the wrong question. The question is what is he worth as a winger for the Wests Tigers in the NRL. I’m sure Wests Tigers have the data to work that out.

 

[Cairnstigers]

I dunno by the time Nofoaluma signs it ill be pushing 800K as the telecrap and foxsports understands..

Just been offered $1.2m

Over 3 years

I’d be surprised if he takes that. If Aloai could get a $600k deal with Manly why would Nofa accept $400k?

Do you know for a fact he got $600'000
Or are you listening to hearsay

Manly were desperate for a forward to fill the gap they had and they still saved $200'000 if $ are correct by signing Aloiai
I don't think another club has that kind of money for a winger
What other club is currently paying a winger $450'000
And if there are i am sure they proved themselves for a number of years not just one, before they received that kind of money
Addo-Carr was on less
Vunavalu possibly but he was a much better player and worth it IMO
A good winger and one who can goal kick yes for sure
Nofo, No more then $450'000 IMO
But if David is able to receive a long serving player payment in year 3 of a new contract, then maybe the final year could be bumped up an extra $50'000

 

[cochise]

I dunno by the time Nofoaluma signs it ill be pushing 800K as the telecrap and foxsports understands..

Just been offered $1.2m

Over 3 years

I’d be surprised if he takes that. If Aloai could get a $600k deal with Manly why would Nofa accept $400k?

Do you know for a fact he got $600'000
Or are you listening to hearsay

Manly were desperate for a forward to fill the gap they had and they still saved $200'000 if $ are correct by signing Aloiai
I don't think another club has that kind of money for a winger
What other club is currently paying a winger $450'000
And if there are i am sure they proved themselves for a number of years not just one, before they received that kind of money
Addo-Carr was on less
Vunavalu possibly but he was a much better player and worth it IMO
A good winger and one who can goal kick yes for sure
Nofo, No more then $450'000 IMO
But if David is able to receive a long serving player payment in year 3 of a new contract, then maybe the final year could be bumped up an extra $50'000

Noffa already qualifies for the long serving player allowance, but in reality it doesn't really work that way.

 

[Leck]

If teams above us on the ladder are willing to pay him good money, maybe we should take that as a hint.

Exactly. Starting to doubt WT concept of good value. I hope we’re not just benchmarking based on media hearsay. What’s Teddy’s worth for example? Is it a million dollars like he’s on or are the Rorters getting twice that? Jake Turbo is another, don’t care how much they’re paying him, he’s giving them good value. The real trick is picking the guys who will go out and play the lights out. Then you get a deal done.

People are scarred because whoever we’ve paid overs for hasn’t worked out. It’s fine to pay big money for players as long as they’re actually worth it. I like the fact we won’t pay overs for players, but it doesn’t help when we’re trying to sign big name players. Understand their approach though there’s a fine line there

I agree. So now we have a confidence issue and a brand issue. Makes it hard to compete.

Part of building a brand is retaining talent whilst building a culture. I agree we shouldn’t pay overs but we should recognise and pay our talent what they deserve.

Maybe if we did that on both accounts, players like Teddy, JAC and Pap would still be here.

 

[InBenjiWeTrust]

IMHO, I would not offer Nofoaluma more than 400K, by saying that, I would offer up to 600K only to wingers like JAC, Tupou, or Koroibate.

 

[Cairnstigers]

If teams above us on the ladder are willing to pay him good money, maybe we should take that as a hint.

Exactly. Starting to doubt WT concept of good value. I hope we’re not just benchmarking based on media hearsay. What’s Teddy’s worth for example? Is it a million dollars like he’s on or are the Rorters getting twice that? Jake Turbo is another, don’t care how much they’re paying him, he’s giving them good value. The real trick is picking the guys who will go out and play the lights out. Then you get a deal done.

People are scarred because whoever we’ve paid overs for hasn’t worked out. It’s fine to pay big money for players as long as they’re actually worth it. I like the fact we won’t pay overs for players, but it doesn’t help when we’re trying to sign big name players. Understand their approach though there’s a fine line there

I agree. So now we have a confidence issue and a brand issue. Makes it hard to compete.

Part of building a brand is retaining talent whilst building a culture. I agree we shouldn’t pay overs but we should recognise and pay our talent what they deserve.

Maybe if we did that on both accounts, players like Teddy, JAC and Pap would still be here.

And they all want fullback money

 

[BAGNF05]

I dunno by the time Nofoaluma signs it ill be pushing 800K as the telecrap and foxsports understands..

Just been offered $1.2m

Over 3 years

Before anyone takes it too far, my post was a joke lol

I realised that

Joke or not, I’d be surprised if Nofa stays at WT

Wests Tigers can’t make him stay if he doesn’t want to. If he goes, he goes. I’d be slightly disappointed in Nofa if he goes, not the club.

We shouldn’t be trying to make him stay. It’s the role of the club to make an appropriate offer and then have an alternative solution lined up should he walk, I’ll judge the club based on this. Too often we tend to fail twice.

 

[Tiger5150]

If teams above us on the ladder are willing to pay him good money, maybe we should take that as a hint.

Exactly. Starting to doubt WT concept of good value. I hope we’re not just benchmarking based on media hearsay. What’s Teddy’s worth for example? Is it a million dollars like he’s on or are the Rorters getting twice that? Jake Turbo is another, don’t care how much they’re paying him, he’s giving them good value. The real trick is picking the guys who will go out and play the lights out. Then you get a deal done.

People are scarred because whoever we’ve paid overs for hasn’t worked out. It’s fine to pay big money for players as long as they’re actually worth it. I like the fact we won’t pay overs for players, but it doesn’t help when we’re trying to sign big name players. Understand their approach though there’s a fine line there

I agree. So now we have a confidence issue and a brand issue. Makes it hard to compete.

Part of building a brand is retaining talent whilst building a culture. I agree we shouldn’t pay overs but we should recognise and pay our talent what they deserve.

What makes you think the club hasnt offered Nofoluma what he deserves?


Maybe if we did that on both accounts, players like Teddy, JAC and Pap would still be here.

We offered Teddy $1.1M (supposedly more than he got at Roosters), JAC was in reggies behind Jordan Rankin (genius coaching) and Pap was in reggies behind Teddy. How does your theory fit with any of these players?

 

[Leck]

I dunno by the time Nofoaluma signs it ill be pushing 800K as the telecrap and foxsports understands..

Just been offered $1.2m

Over 3 years

I’d be surprised if he takes that. If Aloai could get a $600k deal with Manly why would Nofa accept $400k?

Do you know for a fact he got $600'000
Or are you listening to hearsay

Manly were desperate for a forward to fill the gap they had and they still saved $200'000 if $ are correct by signing Aloiai
I don't think another club has that kind of money for a winger
What other club is currently paying a winger $450'000
And if there are i am sure they proved themselves for a number of years not just one, before they received that kind of money
Addo-Carr was on less
Vunavalu possibly but he was a much better player and worth it IMO
A good winger and one who can goal kick yes for sure
Nofo, No more then $450'000 IMO
But if David is able to receive a long serving player payment in year 3 of a new contract, then maybe the final year could be bumped up an extra $50'000

I’m not sure what your point is, I’ve said multiple times that if we’re offering Nofa a new contract it should be between $450-500k p/y for 3 years and no more.

In terms of Aloai I’m making a judgment based on media reports which have been between $550 and 700k. So I might be wrong

 

[cochise]

If teams above us on the ladder are willing to pay him good money, maybe we should take that as a hint.

Exactly. Starting to doubt WT concept of good value. I hope we’re not just benchmarking based on media hearsay. What’s Teddy’s worth for example? Is it a million dollars like he’s on or are the Rorters getting twice that? Jake Turbo is another, don’t care how much they’re paying him, he’s giving them good value. The real trick is picking the guys who will go out and play the lights out. Then you get a deal done.

People are scarred because whoever we’ve paid overs for hasn’t worked out. It’s fine to pay big money for players as long as they’re actually worth it. I like the fact we won’t pay overs for players, but it doesn’t help when we’re trying to sign big name players. Understand their approach though there’s a fine line there

I agree. So now we have a confidence issue and a brand issue. Makes it hard to compete.

Part of building a brand is retaining talent whilst building a culture. I agree we shouldn’t pay overs but we should recognise and pay our talent what they deserve.

Maybe if we did that on both accounts, players like Teddy, JAC and Pap would still be here.

This post is trying to rewrite history, Teddy was offered a huge deal by us, JAC signed with Melbourne while we were still negotiating and Pap was unwanted across the NRL, not just by us but every club turned him down.

 

[BAGNF05]

If teams above us on the ladder are willing to pay him good money, maybe we should take that as a hint.

Exactly. Starting to doubt WT concept of good value. I hope we’re not just benchmarking based on media hearsay. What’s Teddy’s worth for example? Is it a million dollars like he’s on or are the Rorters getting twice that? Jake Turbo is another, don’t care how much they’re paying him, he’s giving them good value. The real trick is picking the guys who will go out and play the lights out. Then you get a deal done.

People are scarred because whoever we’ve paid overs for hasn’t worked out. It’s fine to pay big money for players as long as they’re actually worth it. I like the fact we won’t pay overs for players, but it doesn’t help when we’re trying to sign big name players. Understand their approach though there’s a fine line there

I agree. So now we have a confidence issue and a brand issue. Makes it hard to compete.

Part of building a brand is retaining talent whilst building a culture. I agree we shouldn’t pay overs but we should recognise and pay our talent what they deserve.

Maybe if we did that on both accounts, players like Teddy, JAC and Pap would still be here.

True mate, I’m sure there were greater forces at play than just money and talent identification but those were three critical failures.