Des Hasler to leave the Bulldogs

[tigermac88]

The irony of Shazza not wanting to sign for WT until he knew who the coach was going to be next year, signs with dogs and doesn't know who his coach will be next year
:roll

 

[sheer64]

I thought Dean Pay was his replacement?

 

[supercoach]

When you look what Cleary did with our roster at the back end of the season, than there is no reason a new coach with new ideas can not get the Dogs up again in 2018\. They have enough quality in there roster to turn things around. Okay on paper there spine looks average, but things can turn around quickly. As others have said the Dogs are never down for long

 

[Telltails]

Moving on Reynolds and Graham and getting rid of Des at the same time is probably the change the club needed to move forward. All great servants to the club but they got the best that they were able to give. A fresh approach to the start of the season can only be a good thing.
Might be short a couple of players next year to make a real impact, but like others dont think they will be down for long, if at all.

 

[jirskyr]

TBH getting rid of Des has probably made it a more stable club than if he stayed. The dogs don't stay down long.

Spot on. The Dogs will be a stronger club next year without Des being there, they had become stale under him.

Absolutely, they don't take mediocrity for long, they do something about it.

So Tigers cut an under-performing coach with a year to go and we are "basket cases" and we accept mediocrity, but Dogs do it and it's a strong signal?

They just extended the bloke's contract, then ran him through a few months later with 2 years to run. It's gonna cost them plenty, the only difference between this and the Tim Sheens situation of 2012 is that Dogs can afford to pay multiple coaches.

 

[jirskyr]

Also did you read apparently the Des Hasler contract extension for 2018+ was non-binding? I look forward to the court battle.

 

[Milky]

What if the new coach doesn't want Woods…?

If the coaches contract wasn't binding, what makes us think all the others are?

Some tough times coming up for the dogs...in the court room too lol

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

Also did you read apparently the Des Hasler contract extension for 2018+ was non-binding? I look forward to the court battle.

How was it non binding?

 

[supercoach]

Also did you read apparently the Des Hasler contract extension for 2018+ was non-binding? I look forward to the court battle.

Non Binding contract, wish I had a few of those especially with the bank

 

[TopTiger]

Also did you read apparently the Des Hasler contract extension for 2018+ was non-binding? I look forward to the court battle.

How was it non binding?

Supposedly signed a heads of agreement and not a contract.

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

Also did you read apparently the Des Hasler contract extension for 2018+ was non-binding? I look forward to the court battle.

How was it non binding?

Supposedly signed a heads of agreement and not a contract.

Ah OK, cheers.

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

Spot on. The Dogs will be a stronger club next year without Des being there, they had become stale under him.

With the salary cap situation, i doubt it. Their roster looks average. If their cap clears up for 2019, they might be back if they enter the player market.

I agree. They've swapped Reynolds for Foran. A slight upgrade maybe but Foran's 2017 wasn't great.
They've swapped Graham and Kasiano for Woods. At best a push. Woods is an excellent prop but they've given up a lot.
More to the point they've given up two of their heart and soul players. Plus maybe more losses to come. They' went poorly this year and would need to lift to make an impact next year.

But, but its the Bulldogs, they don't stay down for too long.

The smart money if anyone looks past that nonsense and actually looks at their roster is that they are in for a tough year next year. After that, it depends on who they can afford on the market. They have the spine of a paramecium.

They'll struggle next year IMO. 2019 will be a different story though, they don't spend too long in the wilderness.

 

[jirskyr]

Also did you read apparently the Des Hasler contract extension for 2018+ was non-binding? I look forward to the court battle.

How was it non binding?

Supposedly signed a heads of agreement and not a contract.

Ah OK, cheers.

Like I said, a million to one that Dessie doesn't hire his favourite lawyer and take that to court. Dogs will be forced to settle, no doubts about it. Des might not get the full value of his "heads of agreement" but it will cost Dogs hundreds of thousands if not millions to either defeat him in court or reach an agreement.

You would expect that Des' lawyers and manager would have know at the time of "heads of agreement" extension that there might be blood in the water at end of season and not made an agreement that left Des totally out to dry.

BTW I had to look up what a HoA was, wikipedia:
_A set of heads of agreement, heads of terms or letter of intent is a non-binding document outlining the main issues relevant to a tentative (partnership or other) agreement.[1] A heads of agreement document will only be enforceable when it is adopted into a parent contract and subsequently agreed upon, unless otherwise stated. Until that point, a heads of agreement will not be legally binding (See Fletcher Challenge Energy Ltd v Electricity Corp of New Zealand Ltd [2002] 2 NZLR 433).\
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However, such documents can be legally binding if the agreement document contains terms or language that expressly indicates the binding intention. Equally, a letter which contains no express indication of whether its terms were intended to be binding, can be found to be binding due to language used._

So we are being told now that Dogs announce Des' extension a few months ago and actually the terms and issues were written on a bit of toilet paper in lead pencil? How many other NRL contracts are done in this manner, and is this the same thing that Fifita had when he had that fight with the Dogs over revocation of contract?

 

[Spartan117]

I wished he stayed and drove them further into the dust.

 

[colmcd]

Moving on Reynolds and Graham and getting rid of Des at the same time is probably the change the club needed to move forward. All great servants to the club but they got the best that they were able to give. A fresh approach to the start of the season can only be a good thing.
Might be short a couple of players next year to make a real impact, but like others dont think they will be down for long, if at all.

You are kidding.

The people you move on are your big ticket names, not your club faithful.
Des positioned Kieran to take over at 5/8 because he knows how to get the best out of him. Now they have screwed over Reynolds, the team is in disarray. They tackled Graham and you will start to see players playing like it is a business, not for club love. Yet the Bulldogs have been moving away from the Family club mantra for a long time now.

Manly, you saw a team that played for club love against the rest of the world.

Now we will see a coaching round about. Des may go origin, if Manly were smart they would pick him and drain the dogs roster. NZ should offer him good coin, he would go gangbusters down there. Likewise titans or Souths could fit him well.

I have thought with Cleary that there would be better coaches on the market like Des or McGuire. However we appear to have jumped this coaching merrygoround early. Lets see how Cleary does with our roster, he has got to be wanting a premiership*.

*No we should not aim for a Premiereship, but we should aim to be regularly in the top 8\. Club first before silverware.

 

[WT2K]

No get out clause for Foran via slothfield.

 

[Spud_Murphy]

Moving on Reynolds and Graham and getting rid of Des at the same time is probably the change the club needed to move forward. All great servants to the club but they got the best that they were able to give. A fresh approach to the start of the season can only be a good thing.
Might be short a couple of players next year to make a real impact, but like others dont think they will be down for long, if at all.

Yep and at least they sacked him now and not 3 weeks into the new season! The way the Dogs finished this year, with 3 wins in a row, was as good as if not better than we did. With a new coach, some fresh blood and the shedding of a few stale players I can't see any reason why they won't do ok next year. They still have enough class in the side, especially if they hang onto Liccha.

 

[the_third]

PAYTEN EMERGES AS POTENTIAL DES REPLACEMENT

Aaron Woods has called for Canterbury to quickly appoint a new NRL coach to replace Des Hasler as Todd Payten emerges as a top candidate. Payten is among a field of early possibilities for the Bulldogs’ top job after veteran Hasler’s sacking on Tuesday.

Former Bulldogs players Dean Pay and Jim Dymock, as well as sacked Souths coach Michael Maguire, are also believed to be on the shortlist.

Currently working under Paul Green at North Queensland, the former Wests Tigers prop Payten has also been mooted as a candidate for the Gold Coast job. He has a close link with incoming forward Woods having worked with the former Tigers captain as both a teammate and an assistant coach.

Woods spoke glowingly of him earlier this season when he was considered a candidate to replace Jason Taylor at the Tigers.

Bulldogs chairman Ray Dib said on Tuesday the club would begin the search for a new coach immediately.

Woods, who arrives at the club in November, did not give his preference for the appointment on Wednesday morning but backed Dib to resolve the matter. “Hopefully they move on quickly and don’t stall for so long,” Woods told Sky Sports Radio.

“I’ve got all the faith in the world in the club. Ray will handle it well. They’re a strong board. They’re a club that don’t like to let things hang over their heads.

“I’m just looking for a fresh start and really getting to know all the players and just can’t wait to buy into the new culture obviously the new coach is going to start.

“Whoever they go for, I’m sure all the boys will give 110 per cent for and work our backsides off to move Canterbury to the top eight.” Of the other candidates, Pay has also been in talks with English Super League club Warrington, while Maguire is considered a front-runner at the Titans. Dymock, an assistant at the Bulldogs, also confirmed earlier this month he would throw his hand up for the role if it became available - but is off-contract at the club this summer.

“The club believes the decision to change our football leadership was absolutely necessary,” Dib said.

It is believed Dib spoke to incoming half Kieran Foran about the situation last week, given his close bond with Hasler.

Foran won a premiership under the former Manly mentor in 2011, and has made no secret of the fact Hasler played a key role in attracting him to the club for next year from the Warriors.

Despite that, the 27-year-old is not believed have a get-out clause in his contract that would allow him to follow Hasler out of the club. Dib called Woods on Tuesday night after the Bulldogs’ decision was made public to inform him of the coaching situation.

- AAP

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/nrl/teams/broncos/nrl-daily-live-rolling-rugby-league-coverage-from-around-australia/news-story/9230bdea5bf6ade1b5be7b4947d5d974

 

[Tiger_Steve]

So now Woods is the player spokesperson for the Bulldogs. That should work out well!

 

[jirskyr]

Innit nice to see Woodsy making his banal comments on behalf of another club now?