Di Girolamo puts job on the line to boost Tigers

[wtfl1981]

Its about one's perception of ignorance on team identity issues or phrasing and ensuring that the JV is not a Balmain Propaganda machine. Simple.

I do not wish for WT to dissolve
I do not wish for WT to go broke or fail
I do not wish for magpies to return to NRL
I do not want WT to be renamed or alter their logo or strong identity in WT

I as a WT member and day one fan only want and Expect a fair representation of what WT is made up (owned and based on wests and balmain) and the equally carry onlegacy it represents in a modern day team. Thats why i follow WT and so do 90% of you who originally followed Balmain or magpies.

By direct comparison, Illawarra has more brand recognition in St.George-Illawarra and that was a club takeover.

St.George-Illawarra Dragons are based in Wollongong, play half games at Wollongong, have an away illawarra inspired strip and have a Illawarra Feeder side… While WT wants to squeeze out any significance of Wests identity/branding where the opportunity arises and innocently or purposely erode its legacy in the JV.

WTFL

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[LaT]

All this time I thought I was telling people I was a Tigers supporter, a JV with nearly 2 centuries of history….but I was purely part of a "Balmain Propaganda machine".

 

[Yossarian]

Its about one's perception of ignorance on team identity issues or phrasing and ensuring that the JV is not a Balmain Propaganda machine. Simple.

I do not wish for WT to dissolve
I do not wish for WT to go broke or fail
I do not wish for magpies to return to NRL
I do not want WT to be renamed or alter their logo or strong identity in WT

I as a WT member and day one fan only want and Expect a fair representation of what WT is made up (owned and based on wests and balmain) and the equally carry onlegacy it represents in a modern day team. Thats why i follow WT and so do 90% of you who originally followed Balmain or magpies.

By direct comparison, Illawarra has more brand recognition in St.George-Illawarra and that was a club takeover.

St.George-Illawarra Dragons are based in Wollongong, play half games at Wollongong, have an away illawarra inspired strip and have a Illawarra Feeder side… While WT wants to squeeze out any significance of Wests identity/branding where the opportunity arises and innocently or purposely erode its legacy in the JV.

WTFL

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St George-Illawarra are nearly always referred to as just St George in the media, are treated as a continuation of the St George by the media and 90% of the league world, play a lot of their games in the same jersey as St George. I really don't think Illawarra's "brand recognition" is that great… I mean would you really cop a team called Balmain-Wests Tigers (usually referred to as Balmain Tigers) in return for 6 games at Campbelltown and a state cup team?

 

[slick]

I personally find it strange that REDRLC is the main sponsor and even weirder that the scoreboard had Balmain instead of West Tigers. Everybody knows that REDRLC and Balmain are in bed together. Before anyone attacks me, I'm neither a Wests, Balmain or even a WT fan. I am on here cause I have been involved in the areas as a coach and like to keep up to date with what is happening with that area's NRL representatives, WT, and it's JV partners, Balmain and Wests.

 

[simonthetiger]

Illawarra did well out of the jv..they get to see their socks run around every week.

Ive heard it all now.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Good god man get another hobby for gods sake. Every week posting on the Magpie fanatics page on fb pics whinging that the Magpie is smaller and smaller, there are more pressing issues such as why the NSW cup scoreboard read Balmain v Newtown

Coming from an old Magpie i couldn't care less how often we are referred to just as the Tigers, just like any old Balmain supporter shouldn't have any problem embracing the Wests name, and referring to the side as just Wests. Only problem i have is there seems to be a stigma from some when it comes to referring to the club solely as Wests. Its as if you are referring to the Magpies and not the Tigers and thats something that needs to be fixed

 

[Juro]

Good god man get another hobby for gods sake. Every week posting on the Magpie fanatics page on fb pics whinging that the Magpie is smaller and smaller, there are more pressing issues such as why the NSW cup scoreboard read Balmain v Newtown

Coming from an old Magpie i couldn't care less how often we are referred to just as the Tigers, just like any old Balmain supporter shouldn't have any problem embracing the Wests name, and referring to the side as just Wests. Only problem i have is there seems to be a stigma from some when it comes to referring to the club solely as Wests. Its as if you are referring to the Magpies and not the Tigers and thats something that needs to be fixed

I remember in the early years, it always irked me whenever people in the media referred to us as Balmain. But every year it happened less and less. I would hope that the scoreboard error was just that, an error. I seriously doubt it will happen at the next game!

Coming back to the original article, it is definitely time to do what is right for the Wests Tigers, rather than worrying about being purely 50-50\. If that means that the chairman comes from one side or the other for several years in a row, so be it. Just as long as the chairman is the best person for the job!

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Why do we have to have chairman's from either side, why can't we appoint an outsider? would go a long away to ending the bickering

 

[westTAHger]

Life is far too short to letting this be an issue.

I have no doubt all on here would give anything if possible to spend a bit more time with friends/family who are no longer alive.

**just be grateful we ALL have a team to follow.**

 

[Yossarian]

I personally find it strange that REDRLC is the main sponsor and even weirder that the scoreboard had Balmain instead of West Tigers. Everybody knows that REDRLC and Balmain are in bed together. Before anyone attacks me, I'm neither a Wests, Balmain or even a WT fan. I am on here cause I have been involved in the areas as a coach and like to keep up to date with what is happening with that area's NRL representatives, WT, and it's JV partners, Balmain and Wests.

Well the scoreboard thing is clearly a stuff up. The sponsor thing I don't understand the issue. Who cares who the sponsor is so long as there is one? Ryde Eastwood is a member club of Balmain which is one of the JV partners. If any of the big Campbo clubs want to invest their cash in the WT instead of trying to win Group 6 then I'd be happy for the club to take them on as sponsors. If Wests Ashfield were jumper sponsors it wouldn't be an issue for me either.

 

[system]

Because god forbid anyone ever shortens the name to just "Tigers"…...

Whats the point of the JV if the club is just called the Tigers? Balmain Tigers might as well stayed in NRL on their own.

The Joint Venture is suppose to preserve the legacy of BOTH clubs, if its not done right or fairly then there will be sides, factions and disjointed fans. If balance wasnt a 'problem' then there would be a WT football club in existance (not a JV) and no Wests Group and Balmain split ownership or single feeder side issues.

Tigers is the mascot of WT, but if the club is only referred to as Tigers (publically by senior people in the club and via the media) then the legacy of Wests dissapears/becomes less relevant while the legacy of Balmain (spiritual home,colours,mascot etc) lives on forever.

Its not about dominance of one identity over the others its about Equality in the JV and how that is portrayed internally and perceived externally.

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[gallagher]

We will never be truly one club until we have an independant chaiman and board. What sort of morons would have the wests tigers state cup team wear balmian or west jerseys?

 

[system]

We will never be truly one club until we have an independant chaiman and board. What sort of morons would have the wests tigers state cup team wear balmian or west jerseys?

They will be wearing Wests Tigers jerseys.

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[wtfl1981]

The longer term rotating chairman proposal is a reasonable idea, however this quote is oxymoron:

**_"to properly unite the Balmain and Wests factions under the Tigers banner"_**

Should read **Wests Tigers** Banner. Balmain do not need uniting under the Tigers Banner as they have been Tigers since Day one… No wonder the Wests side of the fence gets fed up with the lack of proper brand and club recognition in the JV with public references like this.

**_"the Tigers will field just one NSW Cup side this year"_**

Pretty sure there was only one Tigers team in NSW cup in 2012 and many years before that - **Balmain Ryde-Eastwood Tigers.**

If the founding club identities at non NRL level are to be abolished, at least have the respect to honour both partners of the JV equally rather than have it portrayed publically as an extension of Balmain Tigers.

Thanks Tiger Watto for the negative reputation point… Just because you don't agree with my point of view does not mean i am personally attacking you or any particular forum member...

I do remember yourself posting this photo below on Facebook last year referring to the new fan created logo for the WT NSW Cup Team. Nice to see the Wests branding in your endorsed photo. So much for Unity.... 😢


 

[wtfl1981]

We will never be truly one club until we have an independant chaiman and board. What sort of morons would have the wests tigers state cup team wear balmian or west jerseys?

That was a condition from BOTH Balmain & Western Suburbs to agree to a combined NSW Cup Side.

The objective of a combined WT NSW Cup team was based on financial benefit, sponsorship arrangements and feeder team proximity at Concord. The intention was not to eliminate the identities of Wests & Balmain which still exist in 2013 at lower grade levels.

 

[Benjirific]

We will never be truly one club until we have an independant chaiman and board. What sort of morons would have the wests tigers state cup team wear balmian or west jerseys?

That was a condition from BOTH Balmain & Western Suburbs to agree to a combined NSW Cup Side.

The objective of a combined WT NSW Cup team was based on financial benefit, sponsorship arrangements and feeder team proximity at Concord. The intention was not to eliminate the identities of Wests & Balmain which still exist in 2013 at lower grade levels.

Hold on a second there, you say it was based on financial benefit and sponsorship arrangements, yet you want them to knock back the significant amount that Ryde-Eastwood Leagues Club offered to put in as a sponsor? A agree with the person you quoted, they need to wear Wests Tigers jerseys, and actually it wasn't a condition of both, it was a condition of the Wests agreement which the Balmain directors couldn't be bothered fighting about it was so ridiculous (something which seems to be a common theme).

 

[Tiger_Watto]

The longer term rotating chairman proposal is a reasonable idea, however this quote is oxymoron:

**_"to properly unite the Balmain and Wests factions under the Tigers banner"_**

Should read **Wests Tigers** Banner. Balmain do not need uniting under the Tigers Banner as they have been Tigers since Day one… No wonder the Wests side of the fence gets fed up with the lack of proper brand and club recognition in the JV with public references like this.

**_"the Tigers will field just one NSW Cup side this year"_**

Pretty sure there was only one Tigers team in NSW cup in 2012 and many years before that - **Balmain Ryde-Eastwood Tigers.**

If the founding club identities at non NRL level are to be abolished, at least have the respect to honour both partners of the JV equally rather than have it portrayed publically as an extension of Balmain Tigers.

Thanks Tiger Watto for the negative reputation point… Just because you don't agree with my point of view does not mean i am personally attacking you or any particular forum member...

I do remember yourself posting this photo below on Facebook last year referring to the new fan created logo for the WT NSW Cup Team. Nice to see the Wests branding in your endorsed photo. So much for Unity.... 😢


You got the points because your rant was accusing the Chairman of being bias, where in fact the Chairman is looking at new ways to move the WT's Brand forward…

Your argument is flawed, agenda driven, and becoming very old!

 

[Sabre]

The longer term rotating chairman proposal is a reasonable idea, however this quote is oxymoron:

**_"to properly unite the Balmain and Wests factions under the Tigers banner"_**

Should read **Wests Tigers** Banner. Balmain do not need uniting under the Tigers Banner as they have been Tigers since Day one… No wonder the Wests side of the fence gets fed up with the lack of proper brand and club recognition in the JV with public references like this.

**_"the Tigers will field just one NSW Cup side this year"_**

Pretty sure there was only one Tigers team in NSW cup in 2012 and many years before that - **Balmain Ryde-Eastwood Tigers.**

If the founding club identities at non NRL level are to be abolished, at least have the respect to honour both partners of the JV equally rather than have it portrayed publically as an extension of Balmain Tigers.

Thanks Tiger Watto for the negative reputation point… Just because you don't agree with my point of view does not mean i am personally attacking you or any particular forum member...

I do remember yourself posting this photo below on Facebook last year referring to the new fan created logo for the WT NSW Cup Team. Nice to see the Wests branding in your endorsed photo. So much for Unity.... 😢


Amusing argument considering your avatar.

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[Sabre]

The longer term rotating chairman proposal is a reasonable idea, however this quote is oxymoron:

**_"to properly unite the Balmain and Wests factions under the Tigers banner"_**

Should read **Wests Tigers** Banner. Balmain do not need uniting under the Tigers Banner as they have been Tigers since Day one… No wonder the Wests side of the fence gets fed up with the lack of proper brand and club recognition in the JV with public references like this.

**_"the Tigers will field just one NSW Cup side this year"_**

Pretty sure there was only one Tigers team in NSW cup in 2012 and many years before that - **Balmain Ryde-Eastwood Tigers.**

If the founding club identities at non NRL level are to be abolished, at least have the respect to honour both partners of the JV equally rather than have it portrayed publically as an extension of Balmain Tigers.

Thanks Tiger Watto for the negative reputation point… Just because you don't agree with my point of view does not mean i am personally attacking you or any particular forum member...

I do remember yourself posting this photo below on Facebook last year referring to the new fan created logo for the WT NSW Cup Team. Nice to see the Wests branding in your endorsed photo. So much for Unity.... 😢


Amusing argument considering your avatar

 

[seijai]

ON A SIDE NOTE, isn't Australian Water Holdings the company owned by Eddie Obeid??