Does Farah come in?

@Russell said:
@stryker said:
@Russell said:
I do not think this is personal with JT. He is picking the team he thinks can get us to the last eight with all things considered. If we don't make it, it has been a mighty effort from a young team that was expected by many on here to collect the spoon.

LOL talk about an each way bet.
What a coward's post.

One of the spoon boys a Stryker!!! Lol

Nope I picked us to make the 8
 
@NT Tiger said:
@Telltails said:
@NT Tiger said:
@Telltails said:
Oh he think he got it perfectly - and called you out on it.

Called me out?
Some concepts are easy, some not so. The concept of team has been around a long time.
I have little doubt that RF has friends within the 1st playing group. However by referring to the club as they, he is distancing himself from everyone, coach, 'cronies' and yes the playing group because they are endorsing what the coach is doing and the direction the club is heading.
To some, it indicates a 'me first' attitude rather than a 'team first' attitude.
If you want to, you can pick it all to pieces and say he was only distancing himself from the coach and his cronies and not the team, but that is flawed. If the rest of the first playing group is buying in to the new direction and the coaches plans, the team become part of the 'they' that RF refers to. And RF is distancing himself from the 'they' that represent that new direction, he is distancing himself from his team mates.
You enjoy the season too telltails.

I don't care what you question about me NT
But it very doubtful that you have ever heard Farah bagging another player in the team, it takes a long stretch of the truth to assume that he was bagging ANY other player. He wasn't writing the Gettysburgh Addresswhen he was speaking after that game.
There's been enough written about this subject , that even you would be aware that Farahs Beef is with Taylor and the admin, not the players.
But you choose to try and twist, what is very plain, into a very different meaning,

You form your opinion on the same stuff that we all read - some agree with you - but you have a problem accepting that your interpretation of things is not shared by all supporters
You got called out because you questioned the validity of a supporter simply because they don't agree with you.
I am trying to enjoy the season like a do every year- but it's not easy

I agree that my post questions the validity of GCT as a supporter, however that was not my intent and for that I apologise.
My intent was to highlight to the exclusivity of saying I support the team and I support RF. That so, when RF has effectively excluded himself from the 'they' that includes the team. And yes that is my opinion.

I notice that you never commented on ET,
Maybe he doesn't support the players too ?
Because he also said that he didn't understand what THEY were on about,
Is he in your sights as well
Probably not.
 
@TrueTiger said:
Very interesting debate on topic,what I had said previously during this discussion,that I agreed with CBs comment regarding RF not being in first grade,was made not on JTs presumed dislike for him or any misdemeanors that I'm aware of on RFs behalf but more so on the facts that we have been building a platform for 2017 and beyond by developing our younger talented players,the whole club is heading in the right direction as far as the business and team go..Robbie has been great for this club as a captain and player,he must also realise he is getting older as the game gets quicker with many changes happening year to year regarding rules changes and playing structures…I have never said at anytime that Robbie shouldn't get his money,he has to because he is entitled to it,however,if he earns it playing reserve grade sobeit..It is interesting also to see that Ennis will hang up his boots and retire at seasons end,he has had many a battle with Robbie in the NRL and SOO level regarding the hooking role..Ennis has chosen to go out gracefully knowing he has given a lot to the game and clubs he has played for.....I wish him all the best for his future undertakings,and hopefully I can congratulate Robbie on a very fine career when he leaves the game gracefully. ..I often look back at the years when I played in the Riverina,and wish I could still be having great games and times,AGE has got the better of me,but I still have the wonderful memories of a wonderful time in my life.....cheers ...

Where does merit based selection fit into this TT? Excluding him from the NRL team based on his age? The threat of ISP selection as a big stick to force him to leave the club?

Ayoub is a smart operator. His comment in the article today that “we will sit back and watch while he doesn’t get picked on his merits” concerns me about where this is headed.

Of course there is the related issue of how you treat one of your best ever players.
 
@Pawsandclaws said:
@TrueTiger said:
Very interesting debate on topic,what I had said previously during this discussion,that I agreed with CBs comment regarding RF not being in first grade,was made not on JTs presumed dislike for him or any misdemeanors that I'm aware of on RFs behalf but more so on the facts that we have been building a platform for 2017 and beyond by developing our younger talented players,the whole club is heading in the right direction as far as the business and team go..Robbie has been great for this club as a captain and player,he must also realise he is getting older as the game gets quicker with many changes happening year to year regarding rules changes and playing structures…I have never said at anytime that Robbie shouldn't get his money,he has to because he is entitled to it,however,if he earns it playing reserve grade sobeit..It is interesting also to see that Ennis will hang up his boots and retire at seasons end,he has had many a battle with Robbie in the NRL and SOO level regarding the hooking role..Ennis has chosen to go out gracefully knowing he has given a lot to the game and clubs he has played for.....I wish him all the best for his future undertakings,and hopefully I can congratulate Robbie on a very fine career when he leaves the game gracefully. ..I often look back at the years when I played in the Riverina,and wish I could still be having great games and times,AGE has got the better of me,but I still have the wonderful memories of a wonderful time in my life.....cheers ...

Where does merit based selection fit into this TT? Excluding him from the NRL team based on his age? The threat of ISP selection as a big stick to force him to leave the club?

Ayoub is a smart operator. His comment in the article today that “we will sit back and watch while he doesn’t get picked on his merits” concerns me about where this is headed.

Of course there is the related issue of how you treat one of your best ever players.

Where do you think it's headed? He won't sit back anyway, he'll do what he usually does and complain to his cronies in the media to try and damage the club.

He's not a smart operator at all, he's a one trick pony. Watch him decline.
 
@Pawsandclaws said:
@TrueTiger said:
Very interesting debate on topic,what I had said previously during this discussion,that I agreed with CBs comment regarding RF not being in first grade,was made not on JTs presumed dislike for him or any misdemeanors that I'm aware of on RFs behalf but more so on the facts that we have been building a platform for 2017 and beyond by developing our younger talented players,the whole club is heading in the right direction as far as the business and team go..Robbie has been great for this club as a captain and player,he must also realise he is getting older as the game gets quicker with many changes happening year to year regarding rules changes and playing structures…I have never said at anytime that Robbie shouldn't get his money,he has to because he is entitled to it,however,if he earns it playing reserve grade sobeit..It is interesting also to see that Ennis will hang up his boots and retire at seasons end,he has had many a battle with Robbie in the NRL and SOO level regarding the hooking role..Ennis has chosen to go out gracefully knowing he has given a lot to the game and clubs he has played for.....I wish him all the best for his future undertakings,and hopefully I can congratulate Robbie on a very fine career when he leaves the game gracefully. ..I often look back at the years when I played in the Riverina,and wish I could still be having great games and times,AGE has got the better of me,but I still have the wonderful memories of a wonderful time in my life.....cheers ...

Where does merit based selection fit into this TT? Excluding him from the NRL team based on his age? The threat of ISP selection as a big stick to force him to leave the club?

Ayoub is a smart operator. His comment in the article today that “we will sit back and watch while he doesn’t get picked on his merits” concerns me about where this is headed.

Of course there is the related issue of how you treat one of your best ever players.

P&C, firstly Ayuob would always bring up the selection on merit card,its his job to promote his player,especially that Robbie is probably playing well in ISP….
Secondly,RF knows that the plans for this team was to develops the highly paid young guns that we have and take the club and team in a forward direction away from the squandering,squabbling boys club and Admin we used to have...
Thirdly,RF has had a reasonably great career with the WTs even though winning a premiership and make minimal appearances in the finals over the years as captain is his sole claim to fame...
In summation,Robbie is getting older and it is time for him to consider moving on,albeit with the rubbish back ended deals and money he apparently is owed from previous years caused by inept overbearing bigheads with little consideration for the clubs future,he should work with the club to go gracefully as a so called legend and not as an overwhelming,overbearing bighead....it appears to be sad the way things have gone for him,its not all his fault and its not all JTs fault either,there could be many underlieing matters including the years building up to this year from previous board members,managers and CEOs that have come to a head this year and the salary cap restrictions on our club have a huge bearing on this situation as well,once again the blame is squarely on previous boards and CEOs...

It can be viewed as an ugly situation,but in the end this team and club are a BUSINESS and hard desicions have to be made for the greater good...I hope everything works out well for all parties concerned....
 
Well, there ya go. After 47 years as a Tigers fan and 15 years as a member, today it ended for me.

The treatment of a club legend in Robbie Farah by blow-ins like Jason Taylor, Marina Go, Justin Pascoe and others is just unacceptable for my moral compass. I cannot support an organisation that treats someone who has given as much as Farah has to this club, including agreeing to back-ended contract arrangements to free up precious money to buy or retain others, as shockingly as he has been treated.

Sure, by all means, it is their right to make "hard" decisions. But not utterly stupid and vindictive ones. The non-selection of Farah this week, and in fact over previous weeks, is NOT based on form; the team's or his. Nobody can justifiably argue that. The NRL side is a better one with Robbie Farah in it.

I will make my sentiments known to the leadership and management of the club, for little response or impact, I imagine. But, that's ok. The club owes me nothing. It owes Robbie Farah (allegedly) at least another $900K. I support him completely in his right to be paid what he is owed.
 
@LCA said:
Well, there ya go. After 47 years as a Tigers fan and 15 years as a member, today it ended for me.

The treatment of a club legend in Robbie Farah by blow-ins like Jason Taylor, Marina Go, Justin Pascoe and others is just unacceptable for my moral compass. I cannot support an organisation that treats someone who has given as much as Farah has to this club, including agreeing to back-ended contract arrangements to free up precious money to buy or retain others, as shockingly as he has been treated.

Sure, by all means, it is their right to make "hard" decisions. But not utterly stupid and vindictive ones. The non-selection of Farah this week, and in fact over previous weeks, is NOT based on form; the team's or his. Nobody can justifiably argue that. The NRL side is a better one with Robbie Farah in it.

I will make my sentiments known to the leadership and management of the club, for little response or impact, I imagine. But, that's ok. The club owes me nothing. It owes Robbie Farah (allegedly) at least another $900K. I support him completely in his right to paid what he is owed.

Talk of what he's owed is irrelevant.
 
@GNR4LIFE said:
@LCA said:
Well, there ya go. After 47 years as a Tigers fan and 15 years as a member, today it ended for me.

The treatment of a club legend in Robbie Farah by blow-ins like Jason Taylor, Marina Go, Justin Pascoe and others is just unacceptable for my moral compass. I cannot support an organisation that treats someone who has given as much as Farah has to this club, including agreeing to back-ended contract arrangements to free up precious money to buy or retain others, as shockingly as he has been treated.

Sure, by all means, it is their right to make "hard" decisions. But not utterly stupid and vindictive ones. The non-selection of Farah this week, and in fact over previous weeks, is NOT based on form; the team's or his. Nobody can justifiably argue that. The NRL side is a better one with Robbie Farah in it.

I will make my sentiments known to the leadership and management of the club, for little response or impact, I imagine. But, that's ok. The club owes me nothing. It owes Robbie Farah (allegedly) at least another $900K. I support him completely in his right to paid what he is owed.

Talk of what he's owed is irrelevant.

BS. Irrelevant to who? You??
 
@LCA said:
@GNR4LIFE said:
@LCA said:
Well, there ya go. After 47 years as a Tigers fan and 15 years as a member, today it ended for me.

The treatment of a club legend in Robbie Farah by blow-ins like Jason Taylor, Marina Go, Justin Pascoe and others is just unacceptable for my moral compass. I cannot support an organisation that treats someone who has given as much as Farah has to this club, including agreeing to back-ended contract arrangements to free up precious money to buy or retain others, as shockingly as he has been treated.

Sure, by all means, it is their right to make "hard" decisions. But not utterly stupid and vindictive ones. The non-selection of Farah this week, and in fact over previous weeks, is NOT based on form; the team's or his. Nobody can justifiably argue that. The NRL side is a better one with Robbie Farah in it.

I will make my sentiments known to the leadership and management of the club, for little response or impact, I imagine. But, that's ok. The club owes me nothing. It owes Robbie Farah (allegedly) at least another $900K. I support him completely in his right to paid what he is owed.

Talk of what he's owed is irrelevant.

BS. Irrelevant to who? You??

Irrelevant to the conversation, because there is zero chance he'll be denied one cent he's owed. None, nada, zilch. Yet it's constantly brought over and over again.
 
GNR with the Tigers history of paying people they sack is not exactly bulletproof?

Sheens anyone?

Marshall, Anasta??

We have a dodgy record in this regard.
 
@GNR4LIFE said:
@LCA said:
Well, there ya go. After 47 years as a Tigers fan and 15 years as a member, today it ended for me.

The treatment of a club legend in Robbie Farah by blow-ins like Jason Taylor, Marina Go, Justin Pascoe and others is just unacceptable for my moral compass. I cannot support an organisation that treats someone who has given as much as Farah has to this club, including agreeing to back-ended contract arrangements to free up precious money to buy or retain others, as shockingly as he has been treated.

Sure, by all means, it is their right to make "hard" decisions. But not utterly stupid and vindictive ones. The non-selection of Farah this week, and in fact over previous weeks, is NOT based on form; the team's or his. Nobody can justifiably argue that. The NRL side is a better one with Robbie Farah in it.

I will make my sentiments known to the leadership and management of the club, for little response or impact, I imagine. But, that's ok. The club owes me nothing. It owes Robbie Farah (allegedly) at least another $900K. I support him completely in his right to paid what he is owed.

Talk of what he's owed is irrelevant.

Has there been news he isnt being paid? I thought he was guaranteed the $$$ and no one is denying that?
 
@Eddie said:
GNR with the Tigers history of paying people they sack is not exactly bulletproof?

Sheens anyone?

Marshall, Anasta??

We have a dodgy record in this regard.

What did the club owe Marshall and Anasta?
 
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@LCA said:
Well, there ya go. After 47 years as a Tigers fan and 15 years as a member, today it ended for me.

The treatment of a club legend in Robbie Farah by blow-ins like Jason Taylor, Marina Go, Justin Pascoe and others is just unacceptable for my moral compass. I cannot support an organisation that treats someone who has given as much as Farah has to this club, including agreeing to back-ended contract arrangements to free up precious money to buy or retain others, as shockingly as he has been treated.

Sure, by all means, it is their right to make "hard" decisions. But not utterly stupid and vindictive ones. The non-selection of Farah this week, and in fact over previous weeks, is NOT based on form; the team's or his. Nobody can justifiably argue that. The NRL side is a better one with Robbie Farah in it.

I will make my sentiments known to the leadership and management of the club, for little response or impact, I imagine. But, that's ok. The club owes me nothing. It owes Robbie Farah (allegedly) at least another $900K. I support him completely in his right to be paid what he is owed.

Oh come on! Was your heart ever in supporting the Wests Tigers or one player. Please enlighten us as to how Robbie has been hard done by. By my estimations he has received from this club

- Over $5 million in salary
- An unbelievable opportunity to network with contacts he has been able to build who help pay for his charity (this will no doubt lead to an easy transition into a high paying job after footy)
- A free University degree with untold time off for classes, study etc
- Free media training
- The prestige of being the captain of this club for 6 years despite leading us to 4 straight finals misses
- Access to a free car
- Untold amount of freebies, upgrades, sponsor products, free tickets, clothing etc etc

Yep it is truly shocking how much this club has treated this player! It is ridiculous the whining that goes on in this place and spacebook.

If a real worker gets made redundant after 10 years you get paid 1 months notice and 12 weeks pay. Why the hell are sportspeople entitled to these ridiculous benefits and why does everyone have their knickers in a knot that he doesnt get to 250 games. The guy is rich, he doesnt give a crap about any of you, is guaranteed another million next year and has all these people to cry for him. The world has gone absolutely mad!
 
@Swordy said:
@Eddie said:
GNR with the Tigers history of paying people they sack is not exactly bulletproof?

Sheens anyone?

Marshall, Anasta??

We have a dodgy record in this regard.

What did the club owe Marshall and Anasta?

Both said publicly a fair while after they left they were still owed money, it was a very poor look for the club.
 
@Swordy said:
@Eddie said:
GNR with the Tigers history of paying people they sack is not exactly bulletproof?

Sheens anyone?

Marshall, Anasta??

We have a dodgy record in this regard.

What did the club owe Marshall and Anasta?

I notice you left out Sheens?

Third party of not its a poor look.

GNR comments that there is zero chance he doesn't get paid in full is not justified in anyway given our history.
 
Sheens settled out of court so he got paid a sum of money that he was happy with to relax and concentrate on earning payment for his Australian appointment. He was however not and still not happy with the way senior players treated him.

The others, well they should have been paid, but TPA's are supposedly at arms length from the club, whatever.
 
So my points stands re Farah.

The club has a pretty chequered past at full paying our star players and coaches when shown the door. So much so that one ended in court !

GNR's comments are hopeful more then anything given our recent past.
 
@Eddie said:
So my points stands re Farah.

The club has a pretty chequered past at full paying our star players and coaches when shown the door. So much so that one ended in court !

**GNR's comments are hopeful more then anything given our recent past**.

You mean under previous management?
 
I thought the grant from the NRL covered the cap and had to be spent on the cap and not elsewhere. Doesn't this guarantee player psyments?
 

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