Don't love the change at fullback

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Yep because James Tedesco, Josh Dugan, Michael Gordon, RTS, Josh Wighton, Alex Johnston and Matt Duffy are all noted ball players.

This nonsense of the modern fullback being a ball player is a fallacy. I've just named you seven fullbacks out of the sixteen clubs that aren't ball players.

It's determined on how your team is structured. Thompson is the perfect fullback when the halves are correct. This year they were until Benji went full derp.

Hmm…it's interesting that Thompson himself said that he wanted to develop that part of his game. A ball playing fullback is someone who can set up his outside men. Slater also felt he was better player when he could do this....and BTW Teddy fits the mould as does RTS. The rest of your list are not what I would call top shelf.

I agree with bbobb, I would class Tedesco, RTS, Johnston, Wighton, Dufty as ball-playing fullbacks. Personally I don't really like that terminology, because it makes out like these fullbacks are 5/8ths with 1s on their back, which isn't accurate. But the point is that when in the backline they can both run or pass well. Even better if they have a kick, but not absolutely necessary.

All those guys I've mentioned have a good pass on them, as well as pass selection, though some more than others. Watching Dufty set up that Widdop try last week shows he doesn't just have pace.
 
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Yep because James Tedesco, Josh Dugan, Michael Gordon, RTS, Josh Wighton, Alex Johnston and Matt Duffy are all noted ball players.

This nonsense of the modern fullback being a ball player is a fallacy. I've just named you seven fullbacks out of the sixteen clubs that aren't ball players.

It's determined on how your team is structured. Thompson is the perfect fullback when the halves are correct. This year they were until Benji went full derp.

Hmm…it's interesting that Thompson himself said that he wanted to develop that part of his game. A ball playing fullback is someone who can set up his outside men. Slater also felt he was better player when he could do this....and BTW Teddy fits the mould as does RTS. The rest of your list are not what I would call top shelf.

I agree with bbobb, I would class Tedesco, RTS, Johnston, Wighton, Dufty as ball-playing fullbacks. Personally I don't really like that terminology, because it makes out like these fullbacks are 5/8ths with 1s on their back, which isn't accurate. But the point is that when in the backline they can both run or pass well. Even better if they have a kick, but not absolutely necessary.

All those guys I've mentioned have a good pass on them, as well as pass selection, though some more than others. Watching Dufty set up that Widdop try last week shows he doesn't just have pace.

Yeah a few season ago Tedesco had the most try assists for our team. He became more selfish with the ball last year (to his and the team's detriment) but he can definitely ball play and set up his outside men.
 
talking about ball playing fullbacks…...Corey Norman went pretty well last night at fullback (IMO). He looked like Parra's most dangerous back. With his short kicking game and passing game from the fullback position.
Although it was hard to look good when you had Moses there butchering everything.
 
Interesting Green has recently gone with Michael Morgan at fullback and Te Maire Martin at 5/8\. I guess he has to mix things up as the Cows haven't clicked at all.

Has Te Maire Martin ever played fullback? I'd image he'd go quite well there in attack. Probably unknown in defence.
 
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talking about ball playing fullbacks…...Corey Norman went pretty well last night at fullback (IMO). He looked like Parra's most dangerous back. With his short kicking game and passing game from the fullback position.
Although it was hard to look good when you had Moses there butchering everything.

Jennings butchered far more …..
 
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talking about ball playing fullbacks…...Corey Norman went pretty well last night at fullback (IMO). He looked like Parra's most dangerous back. With his short kicking game and passing game from the fullback position.
Although it was hard to look good when you had Moses there butchering everything.

Jennings butchered far more …..

yes. Jennings was more clumsy. Moses was just bad at everything. ie; Kicking, passing, running, tackling
 
Benji barely lets Brooks get his hands on the ball , do you think he will allow a ball playing fullback get the ball (that isn't his bum buddy Moltzen)
 
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The modern fullback is seen as a ball player and as much as Thompson has been safe and runs well, that isn't a facet of his game. For mine, Tui is fast becoming an enigma able to produce glimpses of brilliance mixed with quite lazy play. I think Coach Cleary realises that our attack is limited and is possibly looking to create more opportunities with Tui.

While not wanting to be flamed, I see Tui as a centre. I think his body shape, explosive running and ability to position an outside player make him an ideal fit - all without the pressure of five-eight or the running of a fullback. It would allow him to inject himself when he saw opportunity.
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Masters to back row and Tui to centre would be worth looking at imho.

Yep because James Tedesco, Josh Dugan, Michael Gordon, RTS, Josh Wighton, Alex Johnston and Matt Duffy are all noted ball players.

This nonsense of the modern fullback being a ball player is a fallacy. I've just named you seven fullbacks out of the sixteen clubs that aren't ball players.

It's determined on how your team is structured. Thompson is the perfect fullback when the halves are correct. This year they were until Benji went full derp.

So does that mean the majority are ball playing full backs then?

Yes genius. Majority of people believe in a god too, doesn't make them real.

Wait a minute Gods not real…......dang
 
Tui seems to bring out quite a bit of divisiveness and heated opinion. Firstly let me say we are all tigers fans so I am sure everyone wants him to excel. I certainly do. The fact is he simply hasn’t been playing well. I am basing my opinion on what I have seen with my own two eyes over the course of the season so far, and this was before he was injured as well. I can’t see how any reasonable judge can say otherwise. Sure he has kicked a few goals but he’s far from an ace. Yes, he caught a bomb that came down near the try line and had the presence of mind to put his foot back causing a restart, but so does my 14 year old son. I haven’t seen any speed or evasiveness or X factor. What I have seen is lethargy and non commitment, poor positional play and weak defence.
The only thing I can assume is that Ivan is giving him a chance before we go out and recruit someone else.
 
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Tui seems to bring out quite a bit of divisiveness and heated opinion. Firstly let me say we are all tigers fans so I am sure everyone wants him to excel. I certainly do. The fact is he simply hasn’t been playing well. I am basing my opinion on what I have seen with my own two eyes over the course of the season so far, and this was before he was injured as well. I can’t see how any reasonable judge can say otherwise. Sure he has kicked a few goals but he’s far from an ace. Yes, he caught a bomb that came down near the try line and had the presence of mind to put his foot back causing a restart, but so does my 14 year old son. I haven’t seen any speed or evasiveness or X factor. What I have seen is lethargy and non commitment, poor positional play and weak defence.
The only thing I can assume is that Ivan is giving him a chance before we go out and recruit someone else.

I was so happy when Tui signed with us. Based on his highlights I really believed he had the X factor. Unfortunately we have not seen that here yet. Before people on here blame injuries , he wasn’t what I thought he would be before he injured his knee. Do I hope he succeeds? Hell yes. A firing Tui would make us a much better team.
 
Ok I'll start

Thought he made a couple of terrible errors, the drop and the kick. I can live with the rest because a lot of his work leads to points, even when his options aren't the best. If Mbye or someone else comes, so be it, but with the current squad that is our best back 5 with Kev next cab off the rank in any position.

Flame away.
 
There were times when you can see what he brings and it's good. However, too many wrong options and too many lazy plays. The 2 kicks (even the one that we scored off)were poor plays. His soft running is lazy and his effort in not trying to keep Morris wide for the first try typifies why he hasn't been in the side.

Yet he can throw a clever ball at times that created some space for our outside men.

He must be a hard guy to coach.
 
Yeah I tend to agree

I don't think we will see many changes to this 17 baring injury for a while..
 
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