Drug & Match Fixing Scandal in Sport

[LaT]

Betting won't ever stop with just a simple ban. It will just push it further into organised crime which will only intensify gamblings hold over the game.

We need real solutions, not pie in the sky musings about eliminating something that cannot be removed.

 

[happy_tiger]

Unfortunately they will always struggle to keep up with drugs and the drug manufacturers , they will always be a step ahead

Still think the penalties aren't harsh enough , they need to make them tougher to really try and stop the drug cheats

 

[yeti]

Unfortunately they will always struggle to keep up with drugs and the drug manufacturers , they will always be a step ahead

Still think the penalties aren't harsh enough , they need to make them tougher to really try and stop the drug cheats

That's true Happy, which is why the passport is essential - it signals that something is not quite right if/when certain markers (e.g. testosterone levels, hematacrit levels etc) are outside normal paramaters for the individual.

 

[Eddie]

Apparently up to 6 NRL clubs implicated

More then 1 case of team doping across both codes

Nervous times for all clubs, players and fans..

 

[Yossarian]

people who think this is just a cover up or a planned distraction to take the focus off other people or other events have their head in the sand or have been looking at to many movies.

Their will be officals,coaches,players and clubs that will take a massive hit over the next six months. My guess the players will be the ones who will take the biggest hit as they are the ones who are most vulnerable. Anyway this is no big cover up, its for real

I don't believe it is a cover up.

I do however think the timing of the announcement is conveniently timed, especially when the ACC admits themselves they have limited if any real evidence in some cases. It is a fishing expedition and puts a cloud over all proffessional sport until it all comes out in the wash

Supercoach is correct. The ACC simply doesn't operate like that. It wasn't a major investigation or operation it was a tasking to provide a report on the matters of interest (i.e. someone [probably the ACC board] said I want to know if this is worth looking at - go away and right a 50 page report. I highly doubt they even had TI going or ran examinations. So not so much a fishing expedition but a limited investigation with limited resources.

As for the timing I really think it is coincidental. The ACC CEO is not going to pump out a report just to cause a distraction - these things take a while. As for why release it now not early or later I'm not sure. There's always something going on. I just don't see Lawler getting a phone call from Jason Clare saying "YOu know that report you've got on sports - how about releasing it now!"

 

[innsaneink]

Too early to say anything much really, though I wouldnt be so quick to dismiss it all…..same with the other end of the scale, there may be some validity to it all but maybe not as much as the media like to make out (2MMMs ads with convenient dramatic effect pauses after questions to NRL club CEOs rank them up there with the DT now) ....I think a lot of people are commenting on how the WANT it all to be.....
Yes ...its not fair that legit athletes are being besmirched, but hey lifes a [This word has been automatically removed] and theyre paid well....if theyve nothing to hide time will vindicate them, anyone pointing a finger at anyone without sufficient evidence should be treated with the disregard they deserve.

 

[alexaki]

would be shattered if we were one of the six NRL clubs

 

[Hardwick]

Supercoach is correct. The ACC simply doesn't operate like that. It wasn't a major investigation or operation it was a tasking to provide a report on the matters of interest (i.e. someone [probably the ACC board] said I want to know if this is worth looking at - go away and right a 50 page report. I highly doubt they even had TI going or ran examinations. So not so much a fishing expedition but a limited investigation with limited resources.

Didn't I read that the ACC conducted over 30 coercive hearings on this investigation. Same thing as examinations I assume? Just don't think the ACC would be bothered unless it was a big deal and they had some serious info.

 

[happy_tiger]

Supercoach is correct. The ACC simply doesn't operate like that. It wasn't a major investigation or operation it was a tasking to provide a report on the matters of interest (i.e. someone [probably the ACC board] said I want to know if this is worth looking at - go away and right a 50 page report. I highly doubt they even had TI going or ran examinations. So not so much a fishing expedition but a limited investigation with limited resources.

Didn't I read that the ACC conducted over 30 coercive hearings on this investigation. Same thing as examinations I assume? Just don't think the ACC would be bothered unless it was a big deal and they had some serious info.

Watched a lot of the interview live on Channel 24 They have taped phone conversations between people ,they said they had at least one whole club that was in strife with all of this

I also have heard they are really going after clubs they believed have tanked in the AFL

The Demons are supposedly in big strife over this

This is going to be big Forget having your conspiracy theories on this one , they are probably just lining all there ducks up in a row before they start Don't be surprised if the next move will be offering players /managers/coaches /assistants being given a a waiver period to come out and spill their guts before the ACC slits their throats

 

[Yossarian]

Supercoach is correct. The ACC simply doesn't operate like that. It wasn't a major investigation or operation it was a tasking to provide a report on the matters of interest (i.e. someone [probably the ACC board] said I want to know if this is worth looking at - go away and right a 50 page report. I highly doubt they even had TI going or ran examinations. So not so much a fishing expedition but a limited investigation with limited resources.

Didn't I read that the ACC conducted over 30 coercive hearings on this investigation. Same thing as examinations I assume? Just don't think the ACC would be bothered unless it was a big deal and they had some serious info.

I haven't read that so I'm not sure. Examination carries a particular meaning under the ACC Act.

All I'm saying is that there are any number of investigations the ACC carries out on everything from water theft to ports security where the sole intended outcome is a report for others to act upon. From speaking to some people a few days ago I'm pretty sure there was no task force or special investigation attached to it and it doesn't appear to have been very heavily resourced.

 

[Yossarian]

Supercoach is correct. The ACC simply doesn't operate like that. It wasn't a major investigation or operation it was a tasking to provide a report on the matters of interest (i.e. someone [probably the ACC board] said I want to know if this is worth looking at - go away and right a 50 page report. I highly doubt they even had TI going or ran examinations. So not so much a fishing expedition but a limited investigation with limited resources.

Didn't I read that the ACC conducted over 30 coercive hearings on this investigation. Same thing as examinations I assume? Just don't think the ACC would be bothered unless it was a big deal and they had some serious info.

Watched a lot of the interview live on Channel 24 They have taped phone conversations between people ,they said they had at least one whole club that was in strife with all of this

I also have heard they are really going after clubs they believed have tanked in the AFL

The Demons are supposedly in big strife over this

This is going to be big Forget having your conspiracy theories on this one , they are probably just lining all there ducks up in a row before they start Don't be surprised if the next move will be offering players /managers/coaches /assistants being given a a waiver period to come out and spill their guts before the ACC slits their throats

Jason Clare was suggesting their MAY be TI associated with it although this may be a smokescreen to try and get some volunteers to step forward. Technically it's illegal to inform anyone not authorised that there is a tap being carried out. I did read a few people suggesting they thought their phones were bugged - this is just paranoia. If they tap your phone you won't know about it until someone tells you…

 

[Fade_To_Black]

Start the investigation at the front steps of Melbourne Storm HQ….they have a proven track record that they will stoop to any scummy level necessary to gain an advantage through cheating.

 

[Fade_To_Black]

Who remembers the 'Heighno - man of the match' drama?

Yeh, I believe its naive to think this is simply some sort of smokescreen

Can't remember the drama surrounding Heighno MOM, what year was it and what was the issue? Did he win the MOM for a televised channel 9 game when he clearly wasn't the best player on the field or something like that?

 

[Yossarian]

Who remembers the 'Heighno - man of the match' drama?

Yeh, I believe its naive to think this is simply some sort of smokescreen

Can't remember the drama surrounding Heighno MOM, what year was it and what was the issue? Did he win the MOM for a televised channel 9 game when he clearly wasn't the best player on the field or something like that?

Something along the lines of every man and his dog saying someone else should be MOM and then the Ch 9 producer changing it.

Okay here we go. I'd pass further comment but 1) I don't want to be sued and 2) I think everyone can read between the lines…

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/tigers-star-firms-from-34-to-9/story-e6frexni-1111113765015

 

[Fade_To_Black]

Thanks for the info Yoss, that is the first I had heard of it. I didn't know you could bet on MOM for just a televised season game, only for the Clive Churchill medal on GF day….bit dodgy if it is just up to one bloke to make the final decision (wish I was in on that sting though!)

 

[weststigers4life]

Stephen Dank is being interviewed @ 7.30 on ABC tonight if anyone's interested in what he has to say.

 

[Yossarian]

Thanks for the info Yoss, that is the first I had heard of it. I didn't know you could bet on MOM for just a televised season game, only for the Clive Churchill medal on GF day….bit dodgy if it is just up to one bloke to make the final decision (wish I was in on that sting though!)

If it's quantifiable you can pretty much get a bet on. Everything from first points (hi Ryan!) first penalty etc.

 

[Muffstar]

AUSTRALIA'S sports doping scandal has claimed its first victim, with Rabbitohs reserve grader Curtis Johnston stood down following an allegation of illicit performance enhancing drug (PED) use.

Yet to make his NRL debut, the 23-year-old winger has spent the past three seasons with NSW Cup feeder club North Sydney Bears.

He was suspended from training and all club activities after a third party contacted the club with information relating to steroid and peptide use.

There were also text messages released from Johnston’s mobile phone, in which he boasted about using PEDs.

NSWRL boss Geoff Carr last night confirmed the player had not returned a positive drugs test.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/nrl/south-sydney-rabbitohs-reserve-grader-curtis-johnston-stood-down-over-allegations-of-illicit-drug-use/story-e6frexnr-1226575646967

 

[Hardwick]

Stephen Dank is being interviewed @ 7.30 on ABC tonight if anyone's interested in what he has to say.

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He was a bit shaky to me.. not the most reassuring denial I ever saw.

Lance no doping on comeback was slightly more convincing but equally dishonest?

 

[Tap_Twist_Snap]

Going by this afl article which has named the NRL clubs involved we are in the clear.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/exhawk-in-deal-to-sell-peptides-20130211-2e93n.html