Tigerlily
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@LCA said:
Drug & Match Fixing Scandal in Sport
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Penrith and Manly the first ones to be investigated, at this stage. Interesting times ahead, but not what Rugby League needs going into the new season. Something happens pre-season every year, but this is huge! I'm pretty sure that last year someone on this forum alluded to a 'drug/betting story' that would be revealed soon and shock the sporting world - guess this is it. Whoever that was, you were a little out on the timing, but well done.
I,m sure certain types at the Tele crap have had an ear full from our managment …I would like to see a full retraction by the Telecrap tying our club to these allagations....getting very tired of the Buzz and the rest of the mental midgets! Maybe some legal action might not go astray at this time.
GoldXR50Leroy
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Back in the late 90's the Knights had a few players suspended for taking what were at the time 'legal' supplements, over the course of the 'off' season some supplements were declared illegal but what certain Knights players failed to do was read the ongoing advise and declare that they had used said things.
Come 1998 and the doping authorities declared such things illegal not one of the Knights players put their hand up to admit that they took the supplements while they were still legal and this will forever tarnish the Knights ARL Grand Final victory while the Broncos in the 'Other' comp were all clean 'of course'.
Come 1998 and the doping authorities declared such things illegal not one of the Knights players put their hand up to admit that they took the supplements while they were still legal and this will forever tarnish the Knights ARL Grand Final victory while the Broncos in the 'Other' comp were all clean 'of course'.
GoldXR50Leroy
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Back in the late 90's the Knights had a few players suspended for taking what were at the time 'legal' supplements, over the course of the 'off' season some supplements were declared illegal but what certain Knights players failed to do was read the ongoing advise and declare that they had used said things.
Come 1998 and the doping authorities declared such things illegal not one of the Knights players put their hand up to admit that they took the supplements while they were still legal and this will forever tarnish the Knights ARL Grand Final victory while the Broncos in the 'Other' comp were all clean 'of course'.
Come 1998 and the doping authorities declared such things illegal not one of the Knights players put their hand up to admit that they took the supplements while they were still legal and this will forever tarnish the Knights ARL Grand Final victory while the Broncos in the 'Other' comp were all clean 'of course'.
GNR4LIFE
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@Tigerlily said:
Why? because its the Tigers? if it were the Roosters or Storm who did that would you still think it was bullcrap or would you be be jumping on the bandwagon laying the boot in? I hate the one eyed supporter mentality that says ''oh the Tigers would never be involved in such shenanigans''. :unamused:
Not saying i agree with him but i see his point. The finish to that game was farcical
@GNR4LIFE said:
c'mon it was extremely far fetched regardless of the clubs involved, there is a game from a few years back in the final round that was peculiar in nature and coupled with irregular betting that has been long rumored to have the smell of match fixing think it was boosters and cowboys and the result effected the spoon result as well.
I imagine that if there is One there are prob others, but to pick an upset or a turn of events and claim the fix is in over the top
GNR4LIFE
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@Goose said:
I don't think anyone is making accusations about that game, but given the turn of events today with match fixing allegations, its not unthinkable for a game to spring to mind where a team conceded 30 points in 13 mins.
Do i think something shady happened in that game? NO
Would i be surprised if it was revealed something shady went on? Quite frankly no, cos no team concedes 30 points in 13 mins
I would hate for it to be true, and im by no means accusing them of being shady, i already said i didn't think there was anything untoward that happened, however i don't feel like i should sugarcoat it just because its the tigers when if it was any other team i would wonder the same thing
innsaneink
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Im sure most people at one time or another have thought, hmmmmm….that seems odd.
I know at times I have, my conspiracists hat goes on....then I just as quickly usually dismiss it and tell myself Im being silly.
Maybe it wasnt so silly.....why wouldnt crims try and get a foot into sports here, its been done OS.....I think we all need to open our eyes and minds to the _possibility_.....
I know at times I have, my conspiracists hat goes on....then I just as quickly usually dismiss it and tell myself Im being silly.
Maybe it wasnt so silly.....why wouldnt crims try and get a foot into sports here, its been done OS.....I think we all need to open our eyes and minds to the _possibility_.....
Betting during the game does open the door for set ups to occur. There is no doubt that betting agencies, TAB included, have found a nice little earner in football betting. The NRL has welcomed them with open arms, they even allowed their advertisements to be broadcast during live televised games. Maybe the NRL should start their investigation by tidying up their own backyard.
happy_tiger
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Spot betting has to end in all sports End of story
I think the sports team that is going to probably get hurt the most will be Collingwood
Stories have been rife over the years about the social drug scene at the Magpies
NRL wise , unsure
I think the sports team that is going to probably get hurt the most will be Collingwood
Stories have been rife over the years about the social drug scene at the Magpies
NRL wise , unsure
happy_tiger
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The other issue I wold like to raise is the bans involved with drug taking , especially performance enhancing
I still think they are too light
One that I think would be strong for most sports would be a life ban of representing your state or country as well as the mandatory 2 year total ban
Most sports representing your country is the pinnacle of success , make it a life ban and many athletes wouldn't take the risk imo
I still think they are too light
One that I think would be strong for most sports would be a life ban of representing your state or country as well as the mandatory 2 year total ban
Most sports representing your country is the pinnacle of success , make it a life ban and many athletes wouldn't take the risk imo
Tigerdave
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Well, it's not just the NRL I guess, it's the AFL, soccer, tennis, cricket and union I assume, as well. The match fixing is the more dodgy part of it all
GNR4LIFE
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ON a day when Australian sport was smeared with claims of drug cheating, police confirmed they have uncovered vials of urine hidden in dressing room plumbing at the Gold Coast Titans home ground during a bomb-sweep exercise.
The suspicious discovery was revealed yesterday as Australia's biggest drugs-in-sport scandal erupted.
Police sources told The Courier-Mail the containers were found stashed in the Titans home dressing rooms at Skilled Park stadium, Robina, by officers undertaking bomb detection training ahead of next year's G20 summit in Brisbane.
The discovery is believed had been referred to the Australian Sports Anti Doping Authority (ASADA).
Titans management was immediately informed but said they have not been contacted by ASADA.
The NRL club's operations boss, Ian Buchanan, said the discovery was a mystery and the vials could have been put there by any sporting team that used the ground.
"The Rugby Sevens were played there in October and there was a rugby Test between Australia and Argentina in September," he said.
"There is more than one tenant at Skilled Park and I certainly don't think it's fair to point the finger at us.
"It (the urine) could even have been left there from the soccer days (when the now-defunct Gold Coast United played at Skilled Park)."
Mr Buchanan said police had advised Titans CEO David May about the discovery as a "heads-up".
"They said it was found during a bomb sweep," he said.
"There was nothing formal about it. They didn't ask for a 'please explain'. How could they when there are so many teams that use the venue?"
Mr Buchanan said strict ASADA protocols surrounding drug testing made it virtually impossible to switch samples.
Players were followed into the dressing room by drug testers and monitored before being taken to a separate room to provide a sample.
"Every move they make is watched, to the extent of them actually urinating into the bottle," Mr Buchanan said.
The Titans played their last 2012 home game at Skilled Park in early September and resumed training in November.
Players are drug-tested in the off-season but Mr Buchanan said they did not normally train at Skilled Park.
A spokesman for Skilled Park operator Stadiums Queensland said the Queensland Police Service had not advised of the urine vial find.
The Courier-Mail sought comment from ASADA but it was not forthcoming last night.
The Titans earlier released a statement pledging the club's full support into the NRL's investigation into doping and integrity in the wake of the damning Australian Crime Commission investigation.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/bomb-sweep-police-find-hidden-stash-of-urine-samples-at-titans-home-ground/story-e6frg6n6-1226573027718
The suspicious discovery was revealed yesterday as Australia's biggest drugs-in-sport scandal erupted.
Police sources told The Courier-Mail the containers were found stashed in the Titans home dressing rooms at Skilled Park stadium, Robina, by officers undertaking bomb detection training ahead of next year's G20 summit in Brisbane.
The discovery is believed had been referred to the Australian Sports Anti Doping Authority (ASADA).
Titans management was immediately informed but said they have not been contacted by ASADA.
The NRL club's operations boss, Ian Buchanan, said the discovery was a mystery and the vials could have been put there by any sporting team that used the ground.
"The Rugby Sevens were played there in October and there was a rugby Test between Australia and Argentina in September," he said.
"There is more than one tenant at Skilled Park and I certainly don't think it's fair to point the finger at us.
"It (the urine) could even have been left there from the soccer days (when the now-defunct Gold Coast United played at Skilled Park)."
Mr Buchanan said police had advised Titans CEO David May about the discovery as a "heads-up".
"They said it was found during a bomb sweep," he said.
"There was nothing formal about it. They didn't ask for a 'please explain'. How could they when there are so many teams that use the venue?"
Mr Buchanan said strict ASADA protocols surrounding drug testing made it virtually impossible to switch samples.
Players were followed into the dressing room by drug testers and monitored before being taken to a separate room to provide a sample.
"Every move they make is watched, to the extent of them actually urinating into the bottle," Mr Buchanan said.
The Titans played their last 2012 home game at Skilled Park in early September and resumed training in November.
Players are drug-tested in the off-season but Mr Buchanan said they did not normally train at Skilled Park.
A spokesman for Skilled Park operator Stadiums Queensland said the Queensland Police Service had not advised of the urine vial find.
The Courier-Mail sought comment from ASADA but it was not forthcoming last night.
The Titans earlier released a statement pledging the club's full support into the NRL's investigation into doping and integrity in the wake of the damning Australian Crime Commission investigation.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/bomb-sweep-police-find-hidden-stash-of-urine-samples-at-titans-home-ground/story-e6frg6n6-1226573027718
Tiger_Watto
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That's a very poor Title considering Clive Palmer also had a Franchise based at Skilled Park last year…
Lets hope this is blown over very very quickly and the administrators of the game start naming people involved to limit the 'its him', 'its that bloke for sure' drama which is sweeping all sports this morning.
FTR - The NSW Blues have played above expectations lately??? :smiley:
Lets hope this is blown over very very quickly and the administrators of the game start naming people involved to limit the 'its him', 'its that bloke for sure' drama which is sweeping all sports this morning.
FTR - The NSW Blues have played above expectations lately??? :smiley:
S
system
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It is a complex and difficult issue and all clubs and players will be dragged through this mud.
Always suspicious of timing these announcements in an election cycle especially considering it could be up to a full year before any charges come out of this
Always suspicious of timing these announcements in an election cycle especially considering it could be up to a full year before any charges come out of this
Fraze23
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The skilled park discovery sounds a little suss to me. Police were performing a training exercise and discover the vials on the same day that the drug story breaks. It all just sounds a little too convenient.
