OFFICIAL Elijah Taylor [Discussion]

Ballin - the lengths the club was prepared to go get rid of Farah last year and still people think Farah has been dropped based on performance.
If Ballin was fit Farah would not have played any first grade.
The only question for me now is whether it was
driven by Taylor or the board. Pascoe wasn't appointed when Farah was asked to look elsewhere
originally however cleary backs the decision based on his reported desire to sign ET
It seems more and more to me that Farah was a commodity that the board decided was not worth keeping. Just think they underestimated how difficult
he would be to budge. And even though they have
finally achieved there goal not sure they recouped anything like what they had hoped let alone the damage it has done in terms of dividing the supporter base.
Just my opinion.
 
@tigerap said:
@Buffalo said:
@Tiger Torch said:
@Balmain Boy said:
Torch, do you have any idea which of our juniors (other than those mentioned) we're likely to keep? Tatola, Suli, Marsters, Stone, Jacobs, Karwhin etc?

And in general,the decision to promote Milone ahead of JAC just baffles. Neither should have been on much money, if anything JAC perhaps on more due to his far higher potential. Milone was one well connected kid.

Here's all I know at present re the above:
Milone may retire due to a recurrent knee injury but at the very least will not be in the top 25 next year! Sponsorhip expires end of year …..
Ballin is considering his future, but the club is very keen to retain him in some capacity if indeed he can't play due to injury - he will cost us $200k next year / this year $80k.
Tatola has received an offer at the same time as Felise - still no word on what he will do, has received lukewarm interest from elsewhere.
Kharwin has shown poor attitude at training minimum $80k offer has been rejected by him, don't know what he will do. Lack of genuine pace an issue.
Marsters signed up for 2 yrs and highly and regarded - trying to increase his effective minutes.
Suli, Stone & Jacobs I don't have any reliable info, I happen to know one of them personally, but still don't have anything to share.
Contrary to what has been reported the club is still trying to negotiate a settlement with Melb to release JAC. To date this appears to be the only major blunder under Pascoe's reign and as I reported previously JAC signed with Melb while Pascoe was away on extended leave from work on private business, despite leaving instructions that he wanted the final say on JAC - apparently this was not properly communicated to JAC management. JAC desperately wants to stay and be in the top 25 squad next year but this appears to be a remote chance with Melb asking for $200k comp / JAC 's 3 year Melb deal is only worth $460k + incentives.
Cherrington's deal with Penrith was withdrawn in July which was the deadline imposed based on a likely decision re Farah saga - he will move on to Cronulla on a 1 year deal / Liddle now outperforming him in all kpis.
Its important to note that next year there could be as many as 6 vacant spots ( exits: Farah; Halatau; Cherrington; Hunt; Milone; possibly Sirro) in our top 25 roster - maybe the forum should try to pick who the newbies will be will be from our existing squads / I don't anticipate a huge intake of fresh talent.
Personal view only: Robbie Farah is a WT legend no iffs or buts, but his time has come. He no longer has any support in the areas that matter perhaps apart from 1 sponsor. I have no personal relationship with Robbie and despite all I know / don't know, I respect him for what he did for us on the field. I don't want to dwell on the fact that he now has probably killed off any prospect of a role with the WTs after he retires - there would be any number I roles that I thought he could have handled quite capably. Its a real shame but needs to be resolved and Pascoe will ensure this happens as equitably as possible. Please believe me when I say the club is in good shape, it bears no resemblance to the 'inmates running the asylum' of a few years ago. No pain, no gain with a clear, transparent and binding primary objectives semi finals 2017;2018;2019.
Final word on JT's contract, technically it is true that 2017 is an option in the club's favour, but in all likelihood he will be granted this 1 yr contract exemption based on successfully resolving 'transitional issues' ( management talk for getting rid of dead wood / bad habits) and getting the team to at least equal 8th notwithstanding our poor differential. Next year its very simple ideally top 4 with a $ bonus or top 8 to receive a 2 yr extension. Failure to reach top 8 will result in immediate termination.
I've now been told 3 different contract figures for Taylor but none of them have him earning any more than $450k p.a. on his current deal, which is $200k less than what Cleary is asking.

WOW the club must be in good shape! Well apart from the fact it has more leaks than the Titanic.

Pathetic isn't… Where does TT get off spilling the clubs beans on a public Fourm.???.

Wake up champ he is not justin pascoe or jason taylor just someone with some interesting tidbits which give the fans some insight and something interesting to read.
 
So does any one know who Tiger Torch is ?? Definitely a women but i am very happy the info comes here…
 
@Telltails said:
Ballin - the lengths the club was prepared to go get rid of Farah last year and still people think Farah has been dropped based on performance.

Why does everyone keep making this point? It is **all** about performance.

The club does not deem his contribution to the club through his on field performances is commensurate to the salary paid. Either he contributes more or his salary comes down. Neither is going to happen so he is asked to look for other options.

The market always finds a way to price someone correctly. If Wests pay $600k and Souths pay $350k, it means Farah's true value is between these two values. He is certainly not worth $950k.
 
i havent read the whole thread so dont know what people have said however farah to souths is done, not nearly done but done. it will be announced next week. i was told last night by a current souths coaching staff member.
 
@fergiefurr said:
i havent read the whole thread so dont know what people have said however farah to souths is done, not nearly done but done. it will be announced next week. i was told last night by a current souths coaching staff member.

His brother works there too doesnt he ?
Rehab team ?

Wonder if that played a big part in his decision to go their instead of Red V
 
@fergiefurr said:
i havent read the whole thread so dont know what people have said however farah to souths is done, not nearly done but done. it will be announced next week. i was told last night by a current souths coaching staff member.

Very sad …Hope he has a great time at Souths
 
@fergiefurr said:
i havent read the whole thread so dont know what people have said however farah to souths is done, not nearly done but done. it will be announced next week. i was told last night by a current souths coaching staff member.

Thanks Fergie,

Are you able to confirm how much it is costing us on the 2017 cap?

The lurker said the same on Friday about the deal and the two teams made an agreement to split his 2017 wage.

If that is true it should be costing us less than 500k of our next year's cap.

Do you have any info on this?
 
@Love the WestsTigers said:
@fergiefurr said:
i havent read the whole thread so dont know what people have said however farah to souths is done, not nearly done but done. it will be announced next week. i was told last night by a current souths coaching staff member.

His brother works there too doesnt he ?
Rehab team ?

Wonder if that played a big part in his decision to go their instead of Red V

Who in their right mind would go to saints?
 
@Gary Bakerloo said:
@Telltails said:
Ballin - the lengths the club was prepared to go get rid of Farah last year and still people think Farah has been dropped based on performance.

Why does everyone keep making this point? It is **all** about performance.

The club does not deem his contribution to the club through his on field performances is commensurate to the salary paid. Either he contributes more or his salary comes down. Neither is going to happen so he is asked to look for other options.

The market always finds a way to price someo

correctly. If Wests pay $600k and Souths pay $350k, it means Farah's true value is between these two values. He is certainly not worth $95O

Backende
 
@Needaname said:
@fergiefurr said:
i havent read the whole thread so dont know what people have said however farah to souths is done, not nearly done but done. it will be announced next week. i was told last night by a current souths coaching staff member.

Thanks Fergie,

Are you able to confirm how much it is costing us on the 2017 cap?

The lurker said the same on Friday about the deal and the two teams made an agreement to split his 2017 wage.

If that is true it should be costing us less than 500k of our next year's cap.

Do you have any info on this?

no further info mate, purely got told the deal was done and will be announced next week.
 
@Gary Bakerloo said:
@Telltails said:
Ballin - the lengths the club was prepared to go get rid of Farah last year and still people think Farah has been dropped based on performance.

Why does everyone keep making this point? It is **all** about performance.

The club does not deem his contribution to the club through his on field performances is commensurate to the salary paid. Either he contributes more or his salary comes down. Neither is going to happen so he is asked to look for other options.

The market always finds a way to price someone correctly. If Wests pay $600k and Souths pay $350k, it means Farah's true value is between these two values. He is certainly not worth $950k.

It's all about money you mean. You've been caught out here mate. Continuing to deny it is a little nutters.

He definitely isn't worth $950k but someone in the club paid him that amount. I hope the club learns from overpaying players after this incident.
 
@fergiefurr said:
@Needaname said:
@fergiefurr said:
i havent read the whole thread so dont know what people have said however farah to souths is done, not nearly done but done. it will be announced next week. i was told last night by a current souths coaching staff member.

Thanks Fergie,

Are you able to confirm how much it is costing us on the 2017 cap?

The lurker said the same on Friday about the deal and the two teams made an agreement to split his 2017 wage.

If that is true it should be costing us less than 500k of our next year's cap.

Do you have any info on this?

no further info mate, purely got told the deal was done and will be announced next week.

No dramas,

Appreciate the update all the same.
 
@Gary Bakerloo said:
@Telltails said:
Ballin - the lengths the club was prepared to go get rid of Farah last year and still people think Farah has been dropped based on performance.

Why does everyone keep making this point? It is **all** about performance.

The club does not deem his contribution to the club through his on field performances is commensurate to the salary paid. Either he contributes more or his salary comes down. Neither is going to happen so he is asked to look for other options.

The market always finds a way to price someone correctly. If Wests pay $600k and Souths pay $350k, it means Farah's true value is between these two values. He is certainly not worth $950k.

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@stevetiger said:
It's all about money you mean. You've been caught out here mate. Continuing to deny it is a little nutters.

That's your view. My opinion is that performance is linked to incentives (ie: money) and his performance doesn't match the incentives.

@stevetiger said:
He definitely isn't worth $950k but someone in the club paid him that amount. I hope the club learns from overpaying players after this incident.

Yes, someone in the club did the deal, but management has the right to play what's in front of them right now.
 
You can not please everyone, TT has given us a great insight into what is going on behind the scenes and some people want to have a shot at him. As I said in a previous post, the Farah thing is complexed and is about a lot of things and is not just a Taylor and farah personality clash. Also interesting to read Farah has upset someone of influence and my guess it is our chair woman.

If Cleary's price is 200g more than Taylors, I do not see that as a stumbling block when you consider what we pay players
 
Great insight TT, love your work us fans deserve to know what's going on in the club after all these deluded media speculations.

Good to hear that the Farah saga will finally go away, very, very curious on the JAC situation. Really, really want him to stay I think we could try to offer to compensate 100k instead of 200k and tell Addo-Carr that if he wants to stay than we would have to take the 100k out of his salary for 3 years. So we could take out 33k of his salary for the next 3 years to pay us the 100k back or give them Rankin under Bellamy I reckon Rankin could be a good half next to Cronk.

Hope ET stays, he's the reason why we have had this late surge the bloke averages 50 tackles a game. 450K is a bargain with the cap increasing IMO.

Also great to hear we are trying to retain our juniors instead buying players from other clubs (junior wise)

Cheers again for the insight TT, very much appreciated. Quick question: Does anyone know how much Souths are offering to pay for Farah after hearing that he's practically going there? Hoping more than 400K
 
@diedpretty said:
@bp tiger said:
@Newtown said:
@Byron Bay Fan said:
Being completely on topic of course (ha ha). I qualified by what she achieved with a hung senate. She actually passed more than what Little Johnny did in all his years. Whereas Abbott could not negioate his way out of a paper bag and Turnbull gave up and called up a double dissolution. So Gilliard was the stand out one in handling sticky situations - she was miles ahead of the blokes.

How did Kevin Rudd compare with Julia?

on rudd, if i was calling a horse race i would call it gillard by a nose, both will go down as fools.

Well if we are talking fools Turnbull must rate highly - calls a DD and ends up in a worse position than before. :sign:

If we're talking fools, then Abbott wins hands down! He can't even put 2 sentences together without sounding like a complete idiot! Canadia is looking good at the Opening Ceremony Tony :laughing:
 
@Flippedy said:
@diedpretty said:
@bp tiger said:
@Newtown said:
How did Kevin Rudd compare with Julia?

on rudd, if i was calling a horse race i would call it gillard by a nose, both will go down as fools.

Well if we are talking fools Turnbull must rate highly - calls a DD and ends up in a worse position than before. :sign:

If we're talking fools, then Abbott wins hands down! He can't even put 2 sentences together without sounding like a complete idiot! Canadia is looking good at the Opening Ceremony Tony :laughing:

Heard somewhere that he had a profound stutter growing up. Speaks pretty well if true.
 
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