OFFICIAL Elijah Taylor [Discussion]

[tylermax]

Can we just stick to football. I've had a gut full of politics in the last 3 months.

 

[jadtiger]

Can we just stick to football. I've had a gut full of politics in the last 3 months.

Lol politics in football clubs is far more than in any parliament

 

[teddy23]

I would assume that the re-signing priority would be:-

1\. Teddy
2\. Moses
3\. ET
4\. Brooks

Nup it would 100% be

1\. Teddy
2\. Moses
3\. Woods
4\. Brooks

The rankings may change due to the performances!

 

[tiger05premier]

I would assume that the re-signing priority would be:-

1\. Teddy
2\. Moses
3\. ET
4\. Brooks

I would have thought
1\. Teddy
2\. Moses
3\. Woods
4\. Brooks

 

[Nelson]

I would assume that the re-signing priority would be:-

1\. Teddy
2\. Moses
3\. ET
4\. Brooks

I think Woods might be in there rather than ET if they're going for a bred not bought policy, but ET would still be a high priority.

 

[barra]

Why does everyone keep making this point? It is **all** about performance.

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It's all about money you mean. You've been caught out here mate. Continuing to deny it is a little nutters.

That's your view. My opinion is that performance is linked to incentives (ie: money) and his performance doesn't match the incentives.

He definitely isn't worth $950k but someone in the club paid him that amount. I hope the club learns from overpaying players after this incident.

Yes, someone in the club did the deal, but management has the right to play what's in front of them right now.

I think you both have a valid point. While Gary is right that everything in this game is intrinsically linked to performance, in this case I believe it has **_become_** about money due to the back-loading of Farah's contract.

That's nothing unusual these days though.

 

[goldcoast_tiger]

TT please enlighten me, how the hell can the storm ask for $200,000 comp for JAC when they not paid a cent for him yet. i dont get it, if JAC says iam not going iam sure the storm dont want a player that really does not want to be there.

Should they just rollover and do what we'd do ? and just hand him back and bow and scrape to us and apologise for inconveniencing us.
We were stupid enough to not tie him up when we had the chance, so deserve to get screwed by them.
Anyway aren't we the feeder club to them for wingers( ones that have some speed that is, )
Unfortunately there's no way they'll accept Rankin even if we pay them to take him.

 

[Flippedy]

TT please enlighten me, how the hell can the storm ask for $200,000 comp for JAC when they not paid a cent for him yet. i dont get it, if JAC says iam not going iam sure the storm dont want a player that really does not want to be there.

Should they just rollover and do what we'd do ? and just hand him back and bow and scrape to us and apologise for inconveniencing us.
We were stupid enough to not tie him up when we had the chance, so deserve to get screwed by them.
Anyway aren't we the feeder club to them for wingers( ones that have some speed that is, )
Unfortunately there's no way they'll accept Rankin even if we pay them to take him.

I don't get this either. We were able to get Teddy back from Canberra, after he signed with them, without paying them anything, but then again, this is the Storm - they seem to find a way to try and squeeze every cent out of every situation and still somehow win.

JAC has to stay with us, it would be a travesty if he ends up leaving and doesn't want to - he is exactly the kind of winger we need moving forward as a team. Can we send a petition or something to the club?

 

[goldcoast_tiger]

Ballin - the lengths the club was prepared to go get rid of Farah last year and still people think Farah has been dropped based on performance.

Why does everyone keep making this point? It is **all** about performance.

The club does not deem his contribution to the club through his on field performances is commensurate to the salary paid. Either he contributes more or his salary comes down. Neither is going to happen so he is asked to look for other options.

The market always finds a way to price someone correctly. If Wests pay $600k and Souths pay $350k, it means Farah's true value is between these two values. He is certainly not worth $950k.

His market value is what someone will pay him
We set that at what's on his contract, we were idiots and and payed anything to stop him from going to another clubs.
He's still a better hooker than anyone else we have in the club. ( or are likely to get)Including the one that has spent most of the last two seasons on injury leave. And I won't even comment on the lunacy of even thinking about Mortimer, possibly, THE biggest non event ever in the NRL
This whole crap performance by our "Coach" of playing without a top quality hooker is going to come back and bite this club on the Bum
It's just a matter of when.

 

[Nelson]

His market value is what someone will pay him
We set that at what's on his contract, we were idiots and and payed anything to stop him from going to another clubs.
He's still a better hooker than anyone else we have in the club. ( or are likely to get)Including the one that has spent most of the last two seasons on injury leave. And I won't even comment on the lunacy of even thinking about Mortimer, possibly, THE biggest non event ever in the NRL
This whole crap performance by our "Coach" of playing without a top quality hooker is going to come back and bite this club on the Bum
It's just a matter of when.

Sounds like somebody is itching for a loss…

 

[teddy23]

TT please enlighten me, how the hell can the storm ask for $200,000 comp for JAC when they not paid a cent for him yet. i dont get it, if JAC says iam not going iam sure the storm dont want a player that really does not want to be there.

Should they just rollover and do what we'd do ? and just hand him back and bow and scrape to us and apologise for inconveniencing us.
We were stupid enough to not tie him up when we had the chance, so deserve to get screwed by them.
Anyway aren't we the feeder club to them for wingers( ones that have some speed that is, )
Unfortunately there's no way they'll accept Rankin even if we pay them to take him.

I don't get this either. We were able to get Teddy back from Canberra, after he signed with them, without paying them anything, but then again, this is the Storm - they seem to find a way to try and squeeze every cent out of every situation and still somehow win.

JAC has to stay with us, it would be a travesty if he ends up leaving and doesn't want to - he is exactly the kind of winger we need moving forward as a team. Can we send a petition or something to the club?

I agree about the petition X2, Addo-Carr will be a very good player he has that X factor, I know it's early stages but I can see a lot of potential in this kid. Only negative about him is how he gets man handled in his kick returns but he'll grow with age and get bigger and stronger with experience as well.

With the Tedesco situation, I'm pretty sure he back flipped before the deadline so it's legal just like the DCE situation. Time ran up on JAC and its Storms choice whether to let him go or not!

 

[tiger05premier]

TT please enlighten me, how the hell can the storm ask for $200,000 comp for JAC when they not paid a cent for him yet. i dont get it, if JAC says iam not going iam sure the storm dont want a player that really does not want to be there.

Should they just rollover and do what we'd do ? and just hand him back and bow and scrape to us and apologise for inconveniencing us.
We were stupid enough to not tie him up when we had the chance, so deserve to get screwed by them.
Anyway aren't we the feeder club to them for wingers( ones that have some speed that is, )
Unfortunately there's no way they'll accept Rankin even if we pay them to take him.

I don't get this either. We were able to get Teddy back from Canberra, after he signed with them, without paying them anything, but then again, this is the Storm - they seem to find a way to try and squeeze every cent out of every situation and still somehow win.

JAC has to stay with us, it would be a travesty if he ends up leaving and doesn't want to - he is exactly the kind of winger we need moving forward as a team. Can we send a petition or something to the club?

I agree about the petition X2, Addo-Carr will be a very good player he has that X factor, I know it's early stages but I can see a lot of potential in this kid. Only negative about him is how he gets man handled in his kick returns but he'll grow with age and get bigger and stronger with experience as well.

With the Tedesco situation, I'm pretty sure he back flipped before the deadline so it's legal just like the DCE situation. Time ran up on JAC and its Storms choice whether to let him go or not!

You are right with the Tedesco situation he had until June 30 to change his mind. It changed to a 10 day cooling off period after DCE backflipped and that 10 day period is all JAC had to decide whether to go or stay. I would sign a petition though to hand into the tiger's to let them know how much we want JAC to stay

 

[foreveratiger]

Unfortunately it's out of our hands and no petition signed will change anything.
The only way he will stay at Concord is….cough up the money the Storm want in compensation.

 

[Geo]

Storm just re-signed Coops…perhaps we could throw in a tinny as goodwill...(not quite a boat)

 

[GNR4LIFE]

TT please enlighten me, how the hell can the storm ask for $200,000 comp for JAC when they not paid a cent for him yet. i dont get it, if JAC says iam not going iam sure the storm dont want a player that really does not want to be there.

Should they just rollover and do what we'd do ? and just hand him back and bow and scrape to us and apologise for inconveniencing us.
We were stupid enough to not tie him up when we had the chance, so deserve to get screwed by them.
Anyway aren't we the feeder club to them for wingers( ones that have some speed that is, )
Unfortunately there's no way they'll accept Rankin even if we pay them to take him.

I don't get this either. We were able to get Teddy back from Canberra, after he signed with them, without paying them anything, but then again, this is the Storm - they seem to find a way to try and squeeze every cent out of every situation and still somehow win.

JAC has to stay with us, it would be a travesty if he ends up leaving and doesn't want to - he is exactly the kind of winger we need moving forward as a team. Can we send a petition or something to the club?

Tedesco signed before round 13 when contracts officially are registered. JAC didn't.

 

[851]

You can not please everyone, TT has given us a great insight into what is going on behind the scenes and some people want to have a shot at him. As I said in a previous post, the Farah thing is complexed and is about a lot of things and is not just a Taylor and farah personality clash. Also interesting to read Farah has upset someone of influence and my guess it is our chair woman.

If Cleary's price is 200g more than Taylors, I do not see that as a stumbling block when you consider what we pay players

100% agree, just let Robbie get his 250 games and move to souths, and cough up the extra money for Cleary, and see you to both Farah and JT, we can all move forward with confidence then. 😛ray:

 

[GNR4LIFE]

You can not please everyone, TT has given us a great insight into what is going on behind the scenes and some people want to have a shot at him. As I said in a previous post, the Farah thing is complexed and is about a lot of things and is not just a Taylor and farah personality clash. Also interesting to read Farah has upset someone of influence and my guess it is our chair woman.

If Cleary's price is 200g more than Taylors, I do not see that as a stumbling block when you consider what we pay players

100% agree, just let Robbie get his 250 games and move to souths, and cough up the extra money for Cleary, and see you to both Farah and JT, we can all move forward with confidence then. 😛ray:

What extra money? Coaches salaries aren't included in the cap.

 

[Geo]

TT please enlighten me, how the hell can the storm ask for $200,000 comp for JAC when they not paid a cent for him yet. i dont get it, if JAC says iam not going iam sure the storm dont want a player that really does not want to be there.

Should they just rollover and do what we'd do ? and just hand him back and bow and scrape to us and apologise for inconveniencing us.
We were stupid enough to not tie him up when we had the chance, so deserve to get screwed by them.
Anyway aren't we the feeder club to them for wingers( ones that have some speed that is, )
Unfortunately there's no way they'll accept Rankin even if we pay them to take him.

I don't get this either. We were able to get Teddy back from Canberra, after he signed with them, without paying them anything, but then again, this is the Storm - they seem to find a way to try and squeeze every cent out of every situation and still somehow win.

JAC has to stay with us, it would be a travesty if he ends up leaving and doesn't want to - he is exactly the kind of winger we need moving forward as a team. Can we send a petition or something to the club?

Tedesco signed before round 13 when contracts officially are registered. JAC didn't.

Round 13 rule no longer exists since the DCE fiasco..Contracts can be signed after Nov 1 preceding the year a player is off contract… .Players and Clubs then have a 10 day cooling off period once a contract is signed to back out...Once that period ends...no backflips...A release will need to be granted...

 

[supercoach]

You can not please everyone, TT has given us a great insight into what is going on behind the scenes and some people want to have a shot at him. As I said in a previous post, the Farah thing is complexed and is about a lot of things and is not just a Taylor and farah personality clash. Also interesting to read Farah has upset someone of influence and my guess it is our chair woman.

If Cleary's price is 200g more than Taylors, I do not see that as a stumbling block when you consider what we pay players

100% agree, just let Robbie get his 250 games and move to souths, and cough up the extra money for Cleary, and see you to both Farah and JT, we can all move forward with confidence then. 😛ray:

What extra money? Coaches salaries aren't included in the cap.

I realise that, but Taylor is reported to be on a pretty basic contract. My point if we are paying Brooks and co around 600g year surly it is not unreasonable to pay your coach around the same if not a little more and I guess that is the sort of money Cleary is looking for… and as you said it is not coming out of any cap so basically if we can scrape the cash together we can pay the coach what ever we can afford.

I suppose Pascoe and Oniell think Taylor can get the job done for cheaper

 

[Flippedy]

TT please enlighten me, how the hell can the storm ask for $200,000 comp for JAC when they not paid a cent for him yet. i dont get it, if JAC says iam not going iam sure the storm dont want a player that really does not want to be there.

Should they just rollover and do what we'd do ? and just hand him back and bow and scrape to us and apologise for inconveniencing us.
We were stupid enough to not tie him up when we had the chance, so deserve to get screwed by them.
Anyway aren't we the feeder club to them for wingers( ones that have some speed that is, )
Unfortunately there's no way they'll accept Rankin even if we pay them to take him.

I don't get this either. We were able to get Teddy back from Canberra, after he signed with them, without paying them anything, but then again, this is the Storm - they seem to find a way to try and squeeze every cent out of every situation and still somehow win.

JAC has to stay with us, it would be a travesty if he ends up leaving and doesn't want to - he is exactly the kind of winger we need moving forward as a team. Can we send a petition or something to the club?

I agree about the petition X2, Addo-Carr will be a very good player he has that X factor, I know it's early stages but I can see a lot of potential in this kid. Only negative about him is how he gets man handled in his kick returns but he'll grow with age and get bigger and stronger with experience as well.

With the Tedesco situation, I'm pretty sure he back flipped before the deadline so it's legal just like the DCE situation. Time ran up on JAC and its Storms choice whether to let him go or not!

Yeah he is still pretty raw, but the X factor potential is very obvious - I hope we can keep him somehow.

Thanks for the info re Teddy's contract, I wasn't sure about the timing of his back flip.